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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston

I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We talk about this a lot, I don't see fate but the certainty of a path that's meant to be...

Does that make sense?

Deep man

Peach x

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By *ddit...Man
over a year ago

Land of the giants... ;-)


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?"

I don't believe in fate. .. I do believe in multiple parallel universes. . When I say multiple I mean an infinite amount of universes and an infinite amount of me is having an infinite amount of different experiences right now...

Op. .. that thought was so naughty... don't even think it..

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?"

No... there is no fate, life is complicated and there is many influences that act on everyone's life. Ultimately though our lives are not following a pre-ordained path, and we have a massive amount of control over how is turns out.

Life is most certainly what we make it...

Cal

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

I don't believe in fate. Stuff just happens. The way it is, is the way it is. Everything that ever happens can be called fate, chance, luck or serendipity. It all just depends how you want to look at it.

It is a wonderful feeling though when something quite innocuous or random happens and it ends up turning into something wonderful. It's nice when you get a break like that. I've felt that myself recently

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"We talk about this a lot, I don't see fate but the certainty of a path that's meant to be...

Does that make sense?

Deep man

Peach x "

I do believe some things are meant to be definitely

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I believe in 'destiny' - is that the same thing as fate?

E.g. Was it 'fate' that I met my life partner or just circumstance?

If I hadn't met her that first time would 'fate' have meant that we'd be destined to meet another time and day so we'd still end up married?

Or would I have eventually met and married someone else instead and thought that it was 'fate' I met them?

Who knows?

I suspect the latter but there's no way of proving it is there?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

The future's not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves. (Terminator 2)

I happen to agree with the above. In a random universe, there is no set plan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If fate is real, then I think I've drawn a short straw

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I used too not so sure any more

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?"

We have and it has

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ever watched the film sliding doors - makes you think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ever watched the film sliding doors - makes you think "

Very sad but made think that you have to live for the now, whatever you believe

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By *Ollyinone.Man
over a year ago

Warks.

The other day I noticed a tattoo with a like a multicoloured bear. Forty five minutes later I saw the exact same bear with the same colours in a painting in a friends house. More of a glitch in the matrix thing but drew my attention!

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

I don't believe in fate. .. I do believe in multiple parallel universes. . When I say multiple I mean an infinite amount of universes and an infinite amount of me is having an infinite amount of different experiences right now...

Op. .. that thought was so naughty... don't even think it.. "

I follow this train of thought but what if the multi verses were each just a copy of this running 1 second out of synch to the next. Deja vu & foresight could then maybe explained by our subconscious minds being occasionally in tune with each other. The downside to this idea is you are not a free thinker as whatever choice you make has already been mapped out & chosen for you a million times or more already. You only think you are making a choice.

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmm, not exactly sure I believe in fate. But I do think that sometimes life throws some strange curveballs that almost make it seem as though things were destined to be.

We all have the chance to choose how our lives should be, and that is down to how we react to situations we find ourselves in. X

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Was debating this very thing with someone recently - the whole is fate a thing vs your own actions/decisions are actually what influence your life - and whether it's actually possible that the two go hand in hand and fate is what guides your decisions in life?

An interesting thought, to which I don't think there'a any true answer.

I've certainly had a number of sliding doors moments in my life that I can look back on and think had I chosen left instead of right how different my life would have been - but whether it was destiny or purely decision based I'll never know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I should have listened to fate when it told me not to meet someone ... even my car broke down on the way... did I listen ?? Did I fuck ... oh well ... lesson learnt ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a butterfly flaps it's wings in Australia then storms follow in the UK. A corruption of chaos theory that suggests we are all part if an interconnected world and whatever our actions today somewhere they will generate outcomes we cannot foresee.

Perhaps we all have multiple potential destinies that come to pass depending on what action we take or don't take at any given time...

I'm not convinced that our destinies are fixed no matter what we decide it's a concept so scary that we are just pawns in a game or stuck inside the matrix.

I do hope that serendipity is real though for nothing more than personal selfish reasons...if it is then perhaps the things we dream of come to us at the time they are meant to despite the seemingly random nature of the twists and turns our lives take...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ever watched the film sliding doors - makes you think "

Or the Adjustment Beureau

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ever watched the film sliding doors - makes you think

Or the Adjustment Beureau "

Bureau*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Believe in serendipity because if a series of events hadn't happened me and Ginger wouldn't have met and be together

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By *ddit...Man
over a year ago

Land of the giants... ;-)


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

I don't believe in fate. .. I do believe in multiple parallel universes. . When I say multiple I mean an infinite amount of universes and an infinite amount of me is having an infinite amount of different experiences right now...

Op. .. that thought was so naughty... don't even think it..

I follow this train of thought but what if the multi verses were each just a copy of this running 1 second out of synch to the next. Deja vu & foresight could then maybe explained by our subconscious minds being occasionally in tune with each other. The downside to this idea is you are not a free thinker as whatever choice you make has already been mapped out & chosen for you a million times or more already. You only think you are making a choice.

S"

I like your thinking... I don't think it has been mapped out.. it's just that each choice that we make has been played out an infinite amout of times.. we have choices and these create different outcomes... but there are also an infinite of different choices and outcomes that have been produced... I need a whisky.. lmao.. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I know it's a chick flic... waiting for the howls of outrage...

But I love the movie Serendipity...

Something about its sense of hope...

And I'm a sucker for happy endings..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ever watched the film sliding doors - makes you think

Or the Adjustment Beureau

Bureau* "

Or the Doctor Who episode 'Turn Left'...

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By *appy squirrelWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

don't know if I believe in Faith etc but I think life has a tendency to bring up things in your life that are important for you to face at that moment. whether you like it or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think synchronicity exists, where meaningful coincidences occur during our lives but not predetermined fate or destiny. These meaningful events can give purpose and meaning to our lives and can help guide our way a long the path though life we choose.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I believe that everything happens for a reason, not sure if that's fate as such?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I think we're inclined to focus on the "fateful" events that lead up to something significant

but ignore the countless random events that make up the rest of our life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?"

I don't believe in fate but I do believe you make your own luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am the smith of my destiny.

I don't believe in faith, I believe in hard work.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston

Sorry guys I fell asleep so I'll have a look at your comments soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont believe in fate. Like others said here before, we choose our path in life, it doesnt choose us. Things dont happen for a reason. They happen because thats life and sometimes life is good to us and sometimes life brings bad times. Its how we make decisions after these events that guides our path through life.

All about making the right, sometimes tough decisions.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

I don't believe in fate. .. I do believe in multiple parallel universes. . When I say multiple I mean an infinite amount of universes and an infinite amount of me is having an infinite amount of different experiences right now...

Op. .. that thought was so naughty... don't even think it.. "

Are you sure we're on the same planet

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

No... there is no fate, life is complicated and there is many influences that act on everyone's life. Ultimately though our lives are not following a pre-ordained path, and we have a massive amount of control over how is turns out.

Life is most certainly what we make it...

Cal"

I agree but do you never have strange coincidences that make you think maybe certain things are meant to happen?

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I don't believe in fate. Stuff just happens. The way it is, is the way it is. Everything that ever happens can be called fate, chance, luck or serendipity. It all just depends how you want to look at it.

It is a wonderful feeling though when something quite innocuous or random happens and it ends up turning into something wonderful. It's nice when you get a break like that. I've felt that myself recently "

Me too and it really is wonderful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fate, serendipity, karma - these are all ephemeral concepts we use to try to find some greater force or plan at work in what are just random events, or the simple summation of cause and effect.

When taken in its summation, its all random.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I don't think I believe in 'destiny' - is that the same thing as fate?

E.g. Was it 'fate' that I met my life partner or just circumstance?

If I hadn't met her that first time would 'fate' have meant that we'd be destined to meet another time and day so we'd still end up married?

Or would I have eventually met and married someone else instead and thought that it was 'fate' I met them?

Who knows?

I suspect the latter but there's no way of proving it is there?

"

No there isn't but as humans we are capable of faith in things that aren't visible

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"The future's not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves. (Terminator 2)

I happen to agree with the above. In a random universe, there is no set plan."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure if fate is real or not, it certainly feels like it sometimes! And it works both ways, for good and bad.

I like what someone wrote about the parallel universe thing, that I'm inclined to believe in due to the deja vu feeling just before something happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think life is just a random sequence of events, luck ? Is just that you can increase you're chances of something but ultimately it's just plain old luck.

Being born here or some shite hole where life is really shite is just chance.

We all spend our life's trying to improve it but in the end of it ain't going to happen it ain't going to happen and nothing you can do will change it.

How many times have you tried and tried to get somewhere but no matter how much you try it just does not happen.

Chance pure chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That said you can fuck you're life up without even trying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kurt Vonnegut wrote a lot about fate, or inevitable destiny. Our lives go along lines, like a Cat's Cradle (my fave book of his) and they intersect then move on, only to intersect again later. Sort of thing.

Then again, he also said, "Believe in the harmless uuntruths which make you happy."

Is there a Big Book of Stuff That's Going to Happen? No. But it can feel like it. I've had moments when the planets seemed to align and the universe whispered in my ear.

There's scientific data to explain why coincidence seems to happen more often than you'd think. Consider how many seperate things happen in your life. It's impossible not to have a few. I remember picking up the phone to call a friend and he was already on the line, trying to call me. Maybe we'd been watching the same thing on tv which had subconsciously prompted us to think of calling, but even just with the number of times you use a phone, it's not that rare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?"

Cheesey but i think T2 says it best

"There is not fate, but the fate we make for ourselves"

I personaly dislike the whole concept of fate, its just a way for people to blame there own short coming on anything but themselves.

I know that i personally have noticed AS A GENERLISATION people who belive in fate are often unhappy/unforfiled people using it as an excuse to be content with their situation or a reason to simply not do anything about their situation, telling themselves "its pointless im fated to be here no matter what"

What an utter load of shite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen far too many harrowing situations and irrational suffering around the world to entertain any notion that fate plays a hand in deciding who becomes the victim of circumstance and who doesn't ... in fact I feel its somewhat disrespectful to try and explain those situations are the result of preordained intervention....

Serendipity on the other hand a chance encounter with good fortune is something I can except without needing to justify its existence in any other way than happy coincidence

That's my take on it ...

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

I have always believed that everything happens for a reason,even if you sometimes don't know what the reason is.

Sometimes things are a blessing in disguise further down the line,ie you miss out on something that wouldnt have been good for you.

Miss

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By *airymagicWoman
over a year ago

goblin city

I believe in a pot of luck,you use it up appropriately or it might haemorrhage and you never know why.

- that van yesterday was going to hit you but now you pot of luck is empty

I also believe in balance, or karma

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think life is just a random sequence of events, luck ? Is just that you can increase you're chances of something but ultimately it's just plain old luck.

Being born here or some shite hole where life is really shite is just chance.

We all spend our life's trying to improve it but in the end of it ain't going to happen it ain't going to happen and nothing you can do will change it.

How many times have you tried and tried to get somewhere but no matter how much you try it just does not happen.

Chance pure chance "

That seems to me to be quite a fatalistic perspective, i.e., we're dealt a hand and there's nothing we can do to change it. I don't believe that for one minute. There are innumerable stories of people who have changed their cards.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"If fate is real, then I think I've drawn a short straw "

You are going to get a hug from me in 2 weeks time that's no short straw

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

We have and it has "

Sounds like you're very happy about it too xxx

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

I don't believe in fate. .. I do believe in multiple parallel universes. . When I say multiple I mean an infinite amount of universes and an infinite amount of me is having an infinite amount of different experiences right now...

Op. .. that thought was so naughty... don't even think it..

I follow this train of thought but what if the multi verses were each just a copy of this running 1 second out of synch to the next. Deja vu & foresight could then maybe explained by our subconscious minds being occasionally in tune with each other. The downside to this idea is you are not a free thinker as whatever choice you make has already been mapped out & chosen for you a million times or more already. You only think you are making a choice.

S"

Oh deja vu, now that is a weird feeling

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"Hmmm, not exactly sure I believe in fate. But I do think that sometimes life throws some strange curveballs that almost make it seem as though things were destined to be.

We all have the chance to choose how our lives should be, and that is down to how we react to situations we find ourselves in. X "

Yes how I've reacted to a few things recently has set me on an interesting new path

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I should have listened to fate when it told me not to meet someone ... even my car broke down on the way... did I listen ?? Did I fuck ... oh well ... lesson learnt ... "

Now I listen to gut when it comes to things like that, when I don't that's when I get problems

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"If a butterfly flaps it's wings in Australia then storms follow in the UK. A corruption of chaos theory that suggests we are all part if an interconnected world and whatever our actions today somewhere they will generate outcomes we cannot foresee.

Perhaps we all have multiple potential destinies that come to pass depending on what action we take or don't take at any given time...

I'm not convinced that our destinies are fixed no matter what we decide it's a concept so scary that we are just pawns in a game or stuck inside the matrix.

I do hope that serendipity is real though for nothing more than personal selfish reasons...if it is then perhaps the things we dream of come to us at the time they are meant to despite the seemingly random nature of the twists and turns our lives take...

"

I definitely think we are in control of our own destinies but sometimes things happen for a reason. How or why I have no idea but they usually have a positive outcome for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Serendipity is pure luck or chance that a solution is found to a known problem while fate doesn't exist.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"Believe in serendipity because if a series of events hadn't happened me and Ginger wouldn't have met and be together"

That's exactly the type of thing I mean and I'm so happy for you both xxx

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I think synchronicity exists, where meaningful coincidences occur during our lives but not predetermined fate or destiny. These meaningful events can give purpose and meaning to our lives and can help guide our way a long the path though life we choose."

Most definitely

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I dont believe in fate. Like others said here before, we choose our path in life, it doesnt choose us. Things dont happen for a reason. They happen because thats life and sometimes life is good to us and sometimes life brings bad times. Its how we make decisions after these events that guides our path through life.

All about making the right, sometimes tough decisions.

"

Had a few tough decisions to make recently I just hope I made the right ones

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"Fate, serendipity, karma - these are all ephemeral concepts we use to try to find some greater force or plan at work in what are just random events, or the simple summation of cause and effect.

When taken in its summation, its all random. "

I'm not convinced everything in life is random but unfortunately I have nothing to explain it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fate, serendipity, karma - these are all ephemeral concepts we use to try to find some greater force or plan at work in what are just random events, or the simple summation of cause and effect.

When taken in its summation, its all random.

I'm not convinced everything in life is random but unfortunately I have nothing to explain it "

Or back it up?

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I'm not sure if fate is real or not, it certainly feels like it sometimes! And it works both ways, for good and bad.

I like what someone wrote about the parallel universe thing, that I'm inclined to believe in due to the deja vu feeling just before something happens."

Yes deja vu does make me wonder how and why

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Destiny exists as a journeys end but I believe you have a choice/choices on how you get there, so to an extent chance has a limited influence in any of your choices.

However I am a firm believer in actions and consequences and everything happens for a reason. Slightly contradicts my first statement in that I choose an action (independently) but know I have done so because of some hidden underlying motive. I embrace intuition so this may influence my actions, motives.

Apologies I'm currently in recovery after keyhole surgery on my knee, so am a little vexed by my own line of 'logic'. Plus the cute nurse taking my blood pressure isn't helping.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"Kurt Vonnegut wrote a lot about fate, or inevitable destiny. Our lives go along lines, like a Cat's Cradle (my fave book of his) and they intersect then move on, only to intersect again later. Sort of thing.

Then again, he also said, "Believe in the harmless uuntruths which make you happy."

Is there a Big Book of Stuff That's Going to Happen? No. But it can feel like it. I've had moments when the planets seemed to align and the universe whispered in my ear.

There's scientific data to explain why coincidence seems to happen more often than you'd think. Consider how many seperate things happen in your life. It's impossible not to have a few. I remember picking up the phone to call a friend and he was already on the line, trying to call me. Maybe we'd been watching the same thing on tv which had subconsciously prompted us to think of calling, but even just with the number of times you use a phone, it's not that rare."

I've had a lot of things happen that I knew were going to beforehand. I wish I understood how and I had some control over what they are

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I'm seriously contemplating this following a few twists of fortune relating to the same thing. Almost as if something is just meant to happen. The various things could be put down to chance as with everything that happens in the world. I'm not even sure if I think fate exists but I'm more convinced after recent events.

After how many twists is it no longer serendipity and maybe fate at work? MisterBee the answer isn't 42

Is there such a thing as fate?

Do you think you've experienced fate?

Has it changed your life?

Cheesey but i think T2 says it best

"There is not fate, but the fate we make for ourselves"

I personaly dislike the whole concept of fate, its just a way for people to blame there own short coming on anything but themselves.

I know that i personally have noticed AS A GENERLISATION people who belive in fate are often unhappy/unforfiled people using it as an excuse to be content with their situation or a reason to simply not do anything about their situation, telling themselves "its pointless im fated to be here no matter what"

What an utter load of shite"

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I've seen far too many harrowing situations and irrational suffering around the world to entertain any notion that fate plays a hand in deciding who becomes the victim of circumstance and who doesn't ... in fact I feel its somewhat disrespectful to try and explain those situations are the result of preordained intervention....

Serendipity on the other hand a chance encounter with good fortune is something I can except without needing to justify its existence in any other way than happy coincidence

That's my take on it ..."

I like your take on it xxx

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over a year ago

Preston


"I have always believed that everything happens for a reason,even if you sometimes don't know what the reason is.

Sometimes things are a blessing in disguise further down the line,ie you miss out on something that wouldnt have been good for you.

Miss"

That I can relate to

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I believe in a pot of luck,you use it up appropriately or it might haemorrhage and you never know why.

- that van yesterday was going to hit you but now you pot of luck is empty

I also believe in balance, or karma"

There needs to be more karma in the world

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over a year ago


"I think life is just a random sequence of events, luck ? Is just that you can increase you're chances of something but ultimately it's just plain old luck.

Being born here or some shite hole where life is really shite is just chance.

We all spend our life's trying to improve it but in the end of it ain't going to happen it ain't going to happen and nothing you can do will change it.

How many times have you tried and tried to get somewhere but no matter how much you try it just does not happen.

Chance pure chance

That seems to me to be quite a fatalistic perspective, i.e., we're dealt a hand and there's nothing we can do to change it. I don't believe that for one minute. There are innumerable stories of people who have changed their cards. "

Agreed you can do things to change it but not always the case.

I am lucky enough to come from nothing and I do mean nothing not a lot to piss in and now am not rich but not poor purely by keeping gong and not giving up.

But not everything works out and there are plenty of people who just never seems to get the breaks or the chances to get anywhere.

You have to be in the right place at the right time.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"Serendipity is pure luck or chance that a solution is found to a known problem while fate doesn't exist. "

Very succinctly put

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over a year ago


"Kurt Vonnegut wrote a lot about fate, or inevitable destiny. Our lives go along lines, like a Cat's Cradle (my fave book of his) and they intersect then move on, only to intersect again later. Sort of thing.

Then again, he also said, "Believe in the harmless uuntruths which make you happy."

Is there a Big Book of Stuff That's Going to Happen? No. But it can feel like it. I've had moments when the planets seemed to align and the universe whispered in my ear.

There's scientific data to explain why coincidence seems to happen more often than you'd think. Consider how many seperate things happen in your life. It's impossible not to have a few. I remember picking up the phone to call a friend and he was already on the line, trying to call me. Maybe we'd been watching the same thing on tv which had subconsciously prompted us to think of calling, but even just with the number of times you use a phone, it's not that rare.

I've had a lot of things happen that I knew were going to beforehand. I wish I understood how and I had some control over what they are "

Intuition. As we have 'evolved' and grown softer we have lost certain skills or have just chosen to ignore them. Intution is powerful and inderrated. It is designed to protect you. It will never harm you and provides insights on a level that transcends 'proof' or fact.....

Your control would be acknowledging that they could/might/probably happen and act pre-emptively....

Just my humble opinion anyway

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over a year ago

To quote Sarah Connor in The Terminator; "No fate". And "The future is not set" which I think was Kyle Reese.

Basically it is a series of fortunate events. Kinda the opposite of Lemony Snicket

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"Destiny exists as a journeys end but I believe you have a choice/choices on how you get there, so to an extent chance has a limited influence in any of your choices.

However I am a firm believer in actions and consequences and everything happens for a reason. Slightly contradicts my first statement in that I choose an action (independently) but know I have done so because of some hidden underlying motive. I embrace intuition so this may influence my actions, motives.

Apologies I'm currently in recovery after keyhole surgery on my knee, so am a little vexed by my own line of 'logic'. Plus the cute nurse taking my blood pressure isn't helping."

Well you can take more time to ponder the topic

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"To quote Sarah Connor in The Terminator; "No fate". And "The future is not set" which I think was Kyle Reese.

Basically it is a series of fortunate events. Kinda the opposite of Lemony Snicket "

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston

That's the last time I start a thread as I'm falling asleep

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over a year ago


"Serendipity is pure luck or chance that a solution is found to a known problem while fate doesn't exist.

Very succinctly put "

I can put other things succinctly as well, you know!

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over a year ago


"I should have listened to fate when it told me not to meet someone ... even my car broke down on the way... did I listen ?? Did I fuck ... oh well ... lesson learnt ...

Now I listen to gut when it comes to things like that, when I don't that's when I get problems "

Not sure my gut is ever that tuned in....and it's never the most optimistic organ...

Personally I would rather follow my heart hope rather than fear see the joy rather than expect the pain and if it gets broken well it probably would have been anyway...

Serendipity may be a dream but I have experienced things I will nevef be able to rationally explain...

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over a year ago

In "Thinking, Fast and Slow," the Nobel prizewinning economist, Daniel Hahneman, wrote of the research which showed that when political commentators and pundits try to perdict the future, they do worse than dart-throwing monkeys. And yet so many keep making predictions.

Nobody knows what will happen around the world in the next five years, never mind twenty. Nobody knows how AI will affect economies, so they certainly do not know what will happen once all the Brexit negotiations have been completed and the uncertainty, which is the underlying issue for the economy's current hiccups, is over. And nobody knows what might've happened if we'd voted to remain instead.

In the 80s, we all thought WWIII was imminent when Reagan filled his cabinet with hawks and spent big on the military. And what happened? The US invaded Grenada for three days - do you even know where that is on the map? - and bombed Libya for less. Meanwhile, unrelated to all the western rhetoric, the Berlin wall fell and the soviet union imploded.

History has a way of making fools of psychics.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I should have listened to fate when it told me not to meet someone ... even my car broke down on the way... did I listen ?? Did I fuck ... oh well ... lesson learnt ...

Now I listen to gut when it comes to things like that, when I don't that's when I get problems

Not sure my gut is ever that tuned in....and it's never the most optimistic organ...

Personally I would rather follow my heart hope rather than fear see the joy rather than expect the pain and if it gets broken well it probably would have been anyway...

Serendipity may be a dream but I have experienced things I will nevef be able to rationally explain..."

My gut tells me when my heart needs a reality check

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes the stars line up and everything goes right.

Sometimes they don't line up at all and it was never meant to be.

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over a year ago

I don't believe in fate due to the fact that we have the free will to make our choices. If fate was to exist, free will would be an illusion and we would just be robots.

Also there wouldn't be such thing as luck or chance if fate was to exist.

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By *ink Panther. OP   Woman
over a year ago

Preston

Just been reminded of this thread I’m trying to figure out who’s UNLOS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fate was behind us meeting each other. Without going into detail so may reasons why we should never met but we did and the rest is history..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. I blame Sliding Doors for putting this notion in my head.

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over a year ago

"Believe in the harmless untruths which make you happy." - Kurt Vonnegut

The Nobel prizewinning Daniel Kahneman wrote in "Thinking, Fast and Slow" on coincidence. We notice them. What we don't notice is all the times nothing happened. We don't figure out the odds, we just gawp. What are the chances of two siblings sharing the same birthday? What about triplets? How often does somebody win the lottery twice? The odds are not as outrageous as you think once you work them out.

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