FabSwingers.com forum: George Best an icon or just a d*unk.....

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Personally having seen him play in Leicester twice when he was alive, i would say a genious his football play was just a one off.....his film star looks and laid beck attitude was one of a guy who couldnt care less about life......and just live it.

Shame the drink got hold of him but hey thats show business and fame, but take the drink away he was allways a gentleman allways polite and would never refuse an autograph.

R.I.P....George Best ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meh. Kicky ball man drink too much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both.

For folk of a certain age, a footballing icon. For the younger generation, a d*unk who used to be a footballing icon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think he was an icon, popular and talented yes. A d*unk yes definitely x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Both.

For folk of a certain age, a footballing icon. For the younger generation, a d*unk who used to be a footballing icon."

Good point....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I worked with the Surgeon who did his Liver Transplant at The Cromwell Hospital in London. I also sat next to him at breakfast at Champneys in Petersfield when I stayed there for a week the same time he was recuperating. He definitely had an eye for the ladies.

He was a fantastic footballer but just could not control his cravings

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Totally lovely man too ...

Met him a few times and was always a gent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More famous for fucking up his liver than anything else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He was a bloody legend....yeah he fucked his liver up but he's not the first and won't be the last.....it's called addiction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Addiction is the killer x

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

A human being like the rest of us, happened to be very good at what he did but at the end of the day he had serious issue's with alcohol..

like many others in all walks of life..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Totally lovely man too ...

Met him a few times and was always a gent "

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Just a d*unk Icon.

His son seems to follow in his footsteps too.

Likes the women, likes a drink.

Sound familiar??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In 1969 I gave up women and alcohol... It was the worst 20 minutes of my life."

Football wise, he was a legend. Looking back on footage, he was absolutely brilliant to watch.

But, as a younger person, he's just known as Calum Best's dad who was an alcoholic.

So unless you look deeper than what the media portrays, face value tells a different picture.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just a d*unk Icon.

His son seems to follow in his footsteps too.

Likes the women, likes a drink.

Sound familiar??"

Callum lives off his ol mans notoriiety.

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

"Addiction is the killer x"
A boy from the back streets of belfast who could not handle the fast fame which he got and thou not in the same league as george but a england player just the same gazza caught the limelight and could not handle the fame but it has to be rare for a player to get these things when you think of the prize tags and fame there is today.

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

Alcoholism can happen to anyone,my sister died from alcohol excess.

Just like illness and depression can hit and many people drink to mask anxiety/depression or mental health issues.

Miss

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"Just a d*unk Icon.

His son seems to follow in his footsteps too.

Likes the women, likes a drink.

Sound familiar??

Callum lives off his ol mans notoriiety."

He does indeed, one of my girlfriends knows him.

Her description, Knob head through and through, lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Addiction is the killer xA boy from the back streets of belfast who could not handle the fast fame which he got and thou not in the same league as george but a england player just the same gazza caught the limelight and could not handle the fame but it has to be rare for a player to get these things when you think of the prize tags and fame there is today."
Alex hurricane higgins was the same.......

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Celebrity seems to be too much for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too much money time alone and celebrity he should of had a manager like Gregor to reign him in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His name is still sung at Old Trafford every home game.Think that answers the op"s question.

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By *aturisteve69Man
over a year ago

Frodsham

Personally I see alcoholism as an awful illness, so I'd say an ill genius

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Just curious...would be still be the icon in todays age as he was in his day? Or has todays skills out grown him? I'm not a football as you can guess, but world records in athletics are always being beaten than my icons in my day?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Only English team to win world cup heroes yes x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My problem with him is who he played for. Northern Ireland he's fantastic best player ever.

Man U can't stand the man he not played in my team.

Well am a Liverpool supporter.

As a person who I see on the walls of belfast every day.I see a man that died to young.

And I really do appreciate his skills.

As someone who comes from just around the corner in East Belfast.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Only English team to win world cup heroes yes x"

No offence, but doesn't really mean much lol

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Only English team to win world cup heroes yes x"
Yes true and what a great team they were, but do you remember maradonna the hand of god he did that for spite for a friend he lost in the falklands apparently he said years later, most likely thou from those actions he changed the dynamics of the game and robbed england of the world cup so it was sweet revenge for him..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Only English team to win world cup heroes yes x"
George Best represented Northern Ireland not England?

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By *atsun xxxMan
over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

Only English team to win world cup heroes yes x George Best represented Northern Ireland not England? "

That's what I was thinking, don't think some people on here even follow football. I was only young when he was playing, but from what I have read and seen he was a football genius. You don't get to grace places like old Trafford and get paid if you can't play lol

I too am a Liverpool fan

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

A flawed genius.....but it is in those flaws that we see his vulnerability. His vulnerability endears himself to many. His genius grabs our imagination.

Legend!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasn't his mum a drinker though x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

George Best used both feet pretty equally, was fairly quick, very good in the air for his size, and wasnt afraid to make or take a tackle. His balance and ball control were superb. He did his fair share of work for an attacking player. In short he was world class, and still makes some of those who followed look like clowns. He would be, for example, twice the player of a Beckham.

For an idea how tough the game could be in the "olden days" have a look at the "highlights" of the FA Cup final replay between Chelsea and Leeds on youtube.

The downside was obviously that George was the first football superstar, and i suppose that side of life became more attractive than having lumps knocked out of him twice a week!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pitch's were 'heavier' some like ploughed fields,so were the balls,the tackling certainly was,sliding tackles,Norman hunter,Tommy Smith plenty of hard men back then,so with the control and vision Best had along with easier conditions n more help from refs in today's game,yeah he'd be up there with the 'best',end of the day,doesn't matter people's success or otherwise,look at some other Irishmen north and south Higgins n lynott,if your pretty disposed to a condition whether your bin man or superstar life turns out as it does,even today with all the help on offer

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

I think the fitness and pace of the game would out do him today rather than the skills. Sports training and nutrition has moved on so much in the last 20 years that none of the players from his generation would have a chance now. Of you could argue that if he had a modern fitness and diet than maybe he could still be an elite player but the reality is that you need a different physical specimen to cope with how the game was then (slower with men knocking lumps out of eachother) than now (faster with high risk of injury).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

What your missing is natural ability out of your theory.

Pele...juninho...gazza and bestie all were gifted players....that modern day diets and new training methods could only have improved them.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"An absolute icon , the man who changed the face of football .

Say what you will about his demons , but the man was a genius with God given talent and he made the game into a media driven commodity .

What your missing is natural ability out of your theory.

Pele...juninho...gazza and bestie all were gifted players....that modern day diets and new training methods could only have improved them."

Not quite, it assumes their bodies would cope with the intensity of modern training. I'm just saying that should not be a given

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There a program on him on BBC2 tomorrow. ....not sure what time though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"More famous for fucking up his liver than anything else"

He selfishly fucked up the gift of someone else's liver

Nuff said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"More famous for fucking up his liver than anything else

He selfishly fucked up the gift of someone else's liver

Nuff said

A bit harsh mate....I think you have to understand the levels of addiction.

I don't disagree in some way though I blame the experts for giving him that liver as he was setup to fail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"More famous for fucking up his liver than anything else

He selfishly fucked up the gift of someone else's liver

Nuff said

A bit harsh mate....I think you have to understand the levels of addiction.

I don't disagree in some way though I blame the experts for giving him that liver as he was setup to fail."

I understand the generosity and intent of those making an organ donation .....

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ...."

So was he to blame or the people who give it to him?

And I don't mean the donors...as they give without knowing where it will go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

football staus, celibrity..

just passing of a person

loved by those who loved him, thats all that counts

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ...."

Like people who get hit crossing the road. We should leave them there to die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ....

Like people who get hit crossing the road. We should leave them there to die. "

wish you would add a smiley or sarcy face lol

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ....

Like people who get hit crossing the road. We should leave them there to die.

wish you would add a smiley or sarcy face lol"

Which one is the sarky face pls ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ....

Like people who get hit crossing the road. We should leave them there to die. "

Gwanny in a triage situation I would have awarded him low priority if I known his pre-existing condition was self inflicted....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ....

Like people who get hit crossing the road. We should leave them there to die.

Gwanny in a triage situation I would have awarded him low priority if I known his pre-existing condition was self inflicted....

Yes. Like a fatty stuck in a turnstile. We leave them there until they remove 3 stone or die.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

On that note. Chris Moyles ... wow. Almost human now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ....

Like people who get hit crossing the road. We should leave them there to die.

Gwanny in a triage situation I would have awarded him low priority if I known his pre-existing condition was self inflicted....

Yes. Like a fatty stuck in a turnstile. We leave them there until they remove 3 stone or die. "

I'm fully trained in the use of equipment for dealing with such eventualities.....

On that subject though .... it was common place on helicopter flights heading to and from the rigs to place larger passengers closest to the emergency exit which in its own way presented a greater danger to those who could be held back in an escape situation ........

However during management of major emergency assessment we were expected to save the majority not the minority....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Unless it was a fat royal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"His name is still sung at Old Trafford every home game.Think that answers the op"s question.

TO the tune of spirit in the sky:-

"When I die and they lay me to rest,

Gonna go on the piss with George Best,

When they lay me down to rest,

I'm gonna go on the piss with Georgie Best!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He should have never got a new liver ,he was a alcoholic and it was a waste of NHS time .he only got it because of who he was ....

Like people who get hit crossing the road. We should leave them there to die.

wish you would add a smiley or sarcy face lol

Which one is the sarky face pls ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless it was a fat royal. "

Over thee tears we hosted a few portly middle eastern princes and their entourages but they usually provided their own transport....

But Gwanny there was only one Queen on our rig .....his name was Stan and he worked in the kitchen ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless it was a fat royal.

Over thee tears we hosted a few portly middle eastern princes and their entourages but they usually provided their own transport....

But Gwanny there was only one Queen on our rig .....his name was Stan and he worked in the kitchen ..

So you were a cook stan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless it was a fat royal.

Over thee tears we hosted a few portly middle eastern princes and their entourages but they usually provided their own transport....

But Gwanny there was only one Queen on our rig .....his name was Stan and he worked in the kitchen ..

So you were a cook stan

Actually Stan was from Teesside...

On board the rig he was the most wonderfully funny camp guy you could ever wish to meet but onshore you would never think he was anything other than 100% macho .....

He was an absolute diamond always entertaining the crew with innuendo ....

Great bloke...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My George Best story ...

Man U we're playing Luton in a pre season freindly and they were training on the local playing fields across the road from my school. I along with many others bunked off and watched them train.

I was mesmerised seeing my heroes, Law, Charlton and Best running around feet away from me. After they'd finished I chased after George for an autograph he turned and told me to "fuck off" ......

My hero a man I'd idolised has upset me until word had got around and my mates were coming up to me saying with, awe and admiration in their voices: "Wow George Best told you to fuck off!" ... the god of football had spoken to me, so all was well.

His star dulled over the years and as he fell from grace I began to despise him. Then, having met alcoholics (some to close for comfort) I began to understand him and the admiration I'd felt for him as a boy returned a little ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless it was a fat royal.

Over thee tears we hosted a few portly middle eastern princes and their entourages but they usually provided their own transport....

But Gwanny there was only one Queen on our rig .....his name was Stan and he worked in the kitchen ..

So you were a cook stan

Actually Stan was from Teesside...

On board the rig he was the most wonderfully funny camp guy you could ever wish to meet but onshore you would never think he was anything other than 100% macho .....

He was an absolute diamond always entertaining the crew with innuendo ....

Great bloke...

Ah the beauty of having two personalities....never understood it myself though

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

"I don't think he was an icon, popular and talented yes. A d*unk yes definitely x"

Accept your opinion but definitely a football icon imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both. Dependong on when you look at him. Neither cancels the other out

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By *atsun xxxMan
over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

He was born with football talent, it doesn't matter one bit about nutrition and diet to start with

It all starts at school you have talent then people spot you and you progress. He would still survive in the modern game, because he has talent. If him and me were born ten years ago

we would be approaching secondary school and he would be in the football team maybe even the county team. Me who wasn't any good wouldn't be and he would get all the help getting to the top

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There a program on him on BBC2 tomorrow. ....not sure what time though

Just seen it's at 9:00 tonight

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

For me he is a football legend, he was an off the pitch legend

Yes he loved the booze, yes he loved the women,

Rip georgey boy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A d*unken icon, I'll never forget the goal he scored with his boot in his hand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bump it's on 2 now

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bump it's on 2 now

He was a footballing genuious no doubt about that

but i have yet to see a piece of film where he was bad mouthed swearing and generally obnoxious to people even the press ???.

George was the first football super star and he was the flag ship to others in his wake.

like all first things it takes time for all to get used to it fame money adulation change etc, i dont think he liked star dom but yes he liked the money the women but underneath he was an ordinary guy with a spectacular talent.

R.I.P....George there never will be in this modern time a soccer super star like you .

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