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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... " Woman is an awkward word, it doesn't flow well, so it doesn't get used much. Seriously it's nothing to do with meaning it's just language. But if you really want to look at it the number one source for men referring to women ad girl is....girlfriend. You'd never say womanfriend. So it expands, she's my girlfriend, she's my girl, etc etc. | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... " its all about the context and delivery I suppose... how many women say "out with the women tonight"?... | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... Woman is an awkward word, it doesn't flow well, so it doesn't get used much. Seriously it's nothing to do with meaning it's just language. But if you really want to look at it the number one source for men referring to women ad girl is....girlfriend. You'd never say womanfriend. So it expands, she's my girlfriend, she's my girl, etc etc. " I love the word woman, I would refer to another as my partner. | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... Woman is an awkward word, it doesn't flow well, so it doesn't get used much. Seriously it's nothing to do with meaning it's just language. But if you really want to look at it the number one source for men referring to women ad girl is....girlfriend. You'd never say womanfriend. So it expands, she's my girlfriend, she's my girl, etc etc. I love the word woman, I would refer to another as my partner." Cool, sounds clunky though If a guy says "oh my partner will be joining us for drinks later" I'm usually expecting his boyfriend tbh | |||
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""Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too." Yet in most "macho" environments, factories, sites, army etc "lad" is usually the word used to describe men regardless of age "the lads on the shop floor, "the lad who does the tiles, the lads from easy company" etc (gotta get a BoB reference in :p) But men/man flows better than woman so it was less of an issue. " Serenity AND Band of Brothers? We have our watching habits in common. To respond to your point, living in Yorkshire, I don't find being called a lass half as annoying as being called a girl. | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... " To be honest Life's to short for me to worry about such trivial things I go to football with "the boys" sometimes "the lads" If a girl/woman wants me to be a "naughty boy" who am I to take offence | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... its all about the context and delivery I suppose... how many women say "out with the women tonight"?..." Dunno. Women are conditioned into using or are thoughtlessly casual about what they say too. I never say im out with the 'girls' My guts would churn. | |||
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"Most of them say it without thought. They will attempt to tell you that you are uptight and that it's just a term of endearment. I don't blame them for failing to understand. It takes many decades for both men and women to realise just how powerful language is. It's a subtle way of keeping you subservient and dependent and to be fair a lot of women like it. Without realising how conditioned they are." Nah woman just sounds retarded in most sentences, very clunky. Womanfriend, out with the women, hey women let's go get a drink. If you really want to explore infantalising then why the heck do both men and women describe thier partners as baby. That's a weird one. | |||
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"maybe its just a way of expressing a compliment.. the word women may sound awkward or old to some" Why is it a compliment to call a grown woman a girl ? Im interested. | |||
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"how many women say "out with the women tonight"?..." I say 'out with my mates', like you probably do. | |||
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""Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too." Yet in most "macho" environments, factories, sites, army etc "lad" is usually the word used to describe men regardless of age "the lads on the shop floor, "the lad who does the tiles, the lads from easy company" etc (gotta get a BoB reference in :p) But men/man flows better than woman so it was less of an issue. Serenity AND Band of Brothers? We have our watching habits in common. To respond to your point, living in Yorkshire, I don't find being called a lass half as annoying as being called a girl." Aye true lass works well in a Yorkshire accent. Posh southern dude saying lass though sounds absolutely hilarious if you know any get them to send you a voice clip of them using it in a sentence. It comes across as either hugely sarcastic or pitifully trying lol | |||
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"Most of them say it without thought. They will attempt to tell you that you are uptight and that it's just a term of endearment. I don't blame them for failing to understand. It takes many decades for both men and women to realise just how powerful language is. It's a subtle way of keeping you subservient and dependent and to be fair a lot of women like it. Without realising how conditioned they are. Nah woman just sounds retarded in most sentences, very clunky. Womanfriend, out with the women, hey women let's go get a drink. If you really want to explore infantalising then why the heck do both men and women describe thier partners as baby. That's a weird one. " I can't buy the soundbite argument. It's clunky beyond clunkiness. I don't know why so many people use the term baby..... horrible. | |||
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"Most of them say it without thought. They will attempt to tell you that you are uptight and that it's just a term of endearment. I don't blame them for failing to understand. It takes many decades for both men and women to realise just how powerful language is. It's a subtle way of keeping you subservient and dependent and to be fair a lot of women like it. Without realising how conditioned they are. Nah woman just sounds retarded in most sentences, very clunky. Womanfriend, out with the women, hey women let's go get a drink. If you really want to explore infantalising then why the heck do both men and women describe thier partners as baby. That's a weird one. I can't buy the soundbite argument. It's clunky beyond clunkiness. I don't know why so many people use the term baby..... horrible. " Use only woman/women to refer to anyone of the female gender for a week. Bet you study le more than a few times and get some weird looks. | |||
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"I've often heard women in the office talk about arranging a "girls" night out rather than we must have a "woman's" night out ?" YES. It's endemic. When someone uses a term about their own gender it doesn't mean it's okay. Does it Mummy's little cumslut ? | |||
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"Wait until they're still doing it when you're 50. I find it patronising to be honest, but I think its more of a verbal tic than an actual conscious decision." I think that's the word I was looking for! I agree, I know every guy doesn't mean it in some contrived way to demean me... and it's just custom. As you say.. a verbal tic | |||
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"Most of them say it without thought. They will attempt to tell you that you are uptight and that it's just a term of endearment. I don't blame them for failing to understand. It takes many decades for both men and women to realise just how powerful language is. It's a subtle way of keeping you subservient and dependent and to be fair a lot of women like it. Without realising how conditioned they are. Nah woman just sounds retarded in most sentences, very clunky. Womanfriend, out with the women, hey women let's go get a drink. If you really want to explore infantalising then why the heck do both men and women describe thier partners as baby. That's a weird one. I can't buy the soundbite argument. It's clunky beyond clunkiness. I don't know why so many people use the term baby..... horrible. Use only woman/women to refer to anyone of the female gender for a week. Bet you study le more than a few times and get some weird looks." I do use the word woman. What else would I use ? If you were reporting a crime against me..... would you say .... ' I saw the girl standing by the bus stop' | |||
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"Maybe we need to follow the Aussies and refer to all members of the opposite sex as "Sheila's" " Maybe you have something there Bruce. | |||
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"I feel it's endemic in society. It's still patriarchal regardless of progress. I don't take offence to the individual male. He's grown up unaware that he's a misogynistic cunt......... Oh ffs.... I was trying to be nice too. " | |||
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"give me a sentence with woman in it so I can hear it clunk " I'm going out with my womanfriend. The women and I are going to go to the cinema. Hey you know that woman, Kate, you where seeing? Read them out loud it seems "off". It's the "wo" syllable. But I do have dyslexia mainly affecting my audio processing so I tend to notice shit like this more as it makes it hard for me to understand what people say at times if it's out side the norm. So to me woman is very strange because I don't hear it much and while I focus on hearing woman in that context I usually miss the next 3 worda | |||
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"I've often heard women in the office talk about arranging a "girls" night out rather than we must have a "woman's" night out ? YES. It's endemic. When someone uses a term about their own gender it doesn't mean it's okay. Does it Mummy's little cumslut ?" That's ridiculous, of course it's ok if a group of women arrange a girls night out and want to use the term girl. | |||
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"Maybe we need to follow the Aussies and refer to all members of the opposite sex as "Sheila's" Maybe you have something there Bruce." G"day Sheila | |||
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"Most of them say it without thought. They will attempt to tell you that you are uptight and that it's just a term of endearment. I don't blame them for failing to understand. It takes many decades for both men and women to realise just how powerful language is. It's a subtle way of keeping you subservient and dependent and to be fair a lot of women like it. Without realising how conditioned they are. Nah woman just sounds retarded in most sentences, very clunky. Womanfriend, out with the women, hey women let's go get a drink. If you really want to explore infantalising then why the heck do both men and women describe thier partners as baby. That's a weird one. I can't buy the soundbite argument. It's clunky beyond clunkiness. I don't know why so many people use the term baby..... horrible. Use only woman/women to refer to anyone of the female gender for a week. Bet you study le more than a few times and get some weird looks. I do use the word woman. What else would I use ? If you were reporting a crime against me..... would you say .... ' I saw the girl standing by the bus stop' " If you where the bus driver I'd say woman if you where the passenger probably girl. No idea why. I think that's from the phrase "the woman behind the counter/till/desk" line though | |||
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"how many women say "out with the women tonight"?... I say 'out with my mates', like you probably do." I say friends | |||
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"I've often heard women in the office talk about arranging a "girls" night out rather than we must have a "woman's" night out ? YES. It's endemic. When someone uses a term about their own gender it doesn't mean it's okay. Does it Mummy's little cumslut ? That's ridiculous, of course it's ok if a group of women arrange a girls night out and want to use the term girl. " Sam. I know. I wouldn't comment if a group of women said they were going out with the girls. You're missing the point or I am not making it well. The phrase ' the girls' is used widely. The fault lies in never questioning why it's okay. Can I say Im going out with the 'girls' at my age? Can I say it in 20 years time? Would you go into a nursing/care home to visit the 'girls' that live there ? | |||
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"how many women say "out with the women tonight"?... I say 'out with my mates', like you probably do. I say friends " I say Bon Ami ...... | |||
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"Most of them say it without thought. They will attempt to tell you that you are uptight and that it's just a term of endearment. I don't blame them for failing to understand. It takes many decades for both men and women to realise just how powerful language is. It's a subtle way of keeping you subservient and dependent and to be fair a lot of women like it. Without realising how conditioned they are. Nah woman just sounds retarded in most sentences, very clunky. Womanfriend, out with the women, hey women let's go get a drink. If you really want to explore infantalising then why the heck do both men and women describe thier partners as baby. That's a weird one. I can't buy the soundbite argument. It's clunky beyond clunkiness. I don't know why so many people use the term baby..... horrible. Use only woman/women to refer to anyone of the female gender for a week. Bet you study le more than a few times and get some weird looks. I do use the word woman. What else would I use ? If you were reporting a crime against me..... would you say .... ' I saw the girl standing by the bus stop' If you where the bus driver I'd say woman if you where the passenger probably girl. No idea why. I think that's from the phrase "the woman behind the counter/till/desk" line though" Im sixty fucking two ? The 'girl' on the bus ? C'mon. Please. | |||
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"I've often heard women in the office talk about arranging a "girls" night out rather than we must have a "woman's" night out ? YES. It's endemic. When someone uses a term about their own gender it doesn't mean it's okay. Does it Mummy's little cumslut ? That's ridiculous, of course it's ok if a group of women arrange a girls night out and want to use the term girl. Sam. I know. I wouldn't comment if a group of women said they were going out with the girls. You're missing the point or I am not making it well. The phrase ' the girls' is used widely. The fault lies in never questioning why it's okay. Can I say Im going out with the 'girls' at my age? Can I say it in 20 years time? Would you go into a nursing/care home to visit the 'girls' that live there ? " .the 60 year olds at work still refer to each other as "the lads" ? Maybe as men haven't ever had the societal pressure on them like women of the past did there's no hard feelings/upset about boy/lad. "My boy" being quite the term of enderment rtc | |||
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"See if I called a bloke ... My boy ..... it's usually in a ' you've overstepped the mark tone.. even if it's a good friend who will shake it off... " Here's one for you a man says "Baby, You're my woman" What physical aperance does the guy have in your minds eye, without over thinking just the first thing. (Bit of a side track I know but it came from a whatsapp group chat and I'm curious if this is a tv nerd thing or everyone does it) | |||
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"I've often heard women in the office talk about arranging a "girls" night out rather than we must have a "woman's" night out ? YES. It's endemic. When someone uses a term about their own gender it doesn't mean it's okay. Does it Mummy's little cumslut ? That's ridiculous, of course it's ok if a group of women arrange a girls night out and want to use the term girl. Sam. I know. I wouldn't comment if a group of women said they were going out with the girls. You're missing the point or I am not making it well. The phrase ' the girls' is used widely. The fault lies in never questioning why it's okay. Can I say Im going out with the 'girls' at my age? Can I say it in 20 years time? Would you go into a nursing/care home to visit the 'girls' that live there ? " All I'll say is do what ever you're happy with, if you want to be referred to as granny, girl, woman, lady, princess etc that's your choice As for Myself I hope to be going to football matches with "the boys" until my dying day. Ps with everything negative happening in the world I'm not going to lose sleep over a difference of opinion over words | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... Woman is an awkward word, it doesn't flow well, so it doesn't get used much. Seriously it's nothing to do with meaning it's just language. But if you really want to look at it the number one source for men referring to women ad girl is....girlfriend. You'd never say womanfriend. So it expands, she's my girlfriend, she's my girl, etc etc. I love the word woman, I would refer to another as my partner. Cool, sounds clunky though If a guy says "oh my partner will be joining us for drinks later" I'm usually expecting his boyfriend tbh Cuz ur a dick" O.o I'm a dick for thinking partner usually refers to same sex couples? | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... Respect is the issue here it's better to find out a person's hates before getting so personal " | |||
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" Would you go into a nursing/care home to visit the 'girls' that live there ? " I dunno, "going to see the girls down golden oak hills, and see how thier knitting circle is going" kinda works. But I'd probably use ladies. But that has even more issues now as ladies implies a certain standard of behaviour/demenour and gets you yelled at. I think from now on I may just go with "hey you" for everyone till I know thier name | |||
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" Would you go into a nursing/care home to visit the 'girls' that live there ? I dunno, "going to see the girls down golden oak hills, and see how thier knitting circle is going" kinda works. But I'd probably use ladies. But that has even more issues now as ladies implies a certain standard of behaviour/demenour and gets you yelled at. I think from now on I may just go with "hey you" for everyone till I know thier name" don't like 'hey you' much either. Maybe just 'hey!, hi, hello!... with no added bits?! | |||
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"I like lady, I like Miss.., if it's on here for a first message, I think.. why not just say 'hi Mix' or 'mixchick' it's my name until I give you the real one... All the 'girl' and 'baby' seems a lil over familiar for some guy I haven't even met yet. I try to be very respectful of men, regardless of age. Because I think it's the right thing to do. Just want the same. Perhaps I'm a little old school. " nothing wrong with old school manners miss mix x | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... Woman is an awkward word, it doesn't flow well, so it doesn't get used much. Seriously it's nothing to do with meaning it's just language. But if you really want to look at it the number one source for men referring to women ad girl is....girlfriend. You'd never say womanfriend. So it expands, she's my girlfriend, she's my girl, etc etc. I love the word woman, I would refer to another as my partner. Cool, sounds clunky though If a guy says "oh my partner will be joining us for drinks later" I'm usually expecting his boyfriend tbh Cuz ur a dick" You can leave the forum if you’re going to write posts directly attacking another poster. You don’t agree, fine, but I don’t like your tone, so please stop writing that way. I’m reporting your post. | |||
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"Context makes a difference. I'll go for lunch with the girls,the waiter will ask 'and what can I get for you ladies?' and we will discuss 'womens issues'. So,we are girls,ladies and women all in the same breath. I sometimes get messages on here from young men (it would seem disrespectful to call them boys) saying they would like to get together with an older woman.If they were to refer to an 'old lady',it would just seem weird and if they were looking for a girl,I'd wish them luck with their search. Girl,lady or woman,,,I really don't mind,it's the 'older' bit that I could do without sometimes." - Mrs. J - | |||
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"It's really strange to me when a man (particularly if he's younger than I am) refers to me as a girl. You seem like a 'nice girl'...'naughty girl'.. I want to meet a 'girl like you' I'm 37! No longer a girl. Fully fledged woman by now surely?! I don't get massively uptight about it. But I have to admit it kinda rubs me the wrong way. I find it a lil disrespectful. Thing is most men above a certain age (even in their 20's) don't like being referred to as 'boys?! From my experience, they feel it's disrespectful too. I'd love to hear some opinions on this from both sides... Woman is an awkward word, it doesn't flow well, so it doesn't get used much. Seriously it's nothing to do with meaning it's just language. But if you really want to look at it the number one source for men referring to women ad girl is....girlfriend. You'd never say womanfriend. So it expands, she's my girlfriend, she's my girl, etc etc. I love the word woman, I would refer to another as my partner. Cool, sounds clunky though If a guy says "oh my partner will be joining us for drinks later" I'm usually expecting his boyfriend tbh Cuz ur a dick You can leave the forum if you’re going to write posts directly attacking another poster. You don’t agree, fine, but I don’t like your tone, so please stop writing that way. I’m reporting your post." I did too - Mrs. J - | |||
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