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"I myself have been suffering for quite a while. it has been a long journey for me with lots of different meds tried,the ones I take now work 90% of the time but still have bad days. it depends how bad it is,and what caused etc, everyone is different." you have to look at side effects,personal confrontations etc. I suffer parnoia and since dec I have gained 5stone in weight because of meds | |||
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"the worst thing is when people who don't understand tell you to suck it up and get on with it, or there's nothing wrong with you. I have encountered this from family and now ex friends." The problem is often that people may have experienced sadness but not depression and think that they are the same. | |||
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"I'll post my usual response I have ready for when someone posts a thread around mental health -- some of it may be of use to you in provision of support. The thing is how mental health will manifest from person to person is different even with the same diagnosis, and the most effective tools of use to manage with, minimise impact or recover from will also differ. In addition, I'd recommend looking at WRAP (or equivalents) Wellness Recovery Action Planning as a tool for them to help build the best support package for them, with professional input for support options as the start of a journey. "Link in with GP and local services and get qualified clinical advice and support, have a buddy (friend or family) and tell them how you're really feeling, lots of fresh air outside, find your particular coping strategies and be conscious of particular triggers for you -- everybody is different -- check out resources on Mind website, be gentle with yourself and be conscious that feelings are just that, not actuality but your current response to your circumstances and can change, talk to people and if you can't talk..be with people, eat well, sleep well, excerise like walking, mindfulness, talking therapies, find your useful "things", but above all else know you are not alone. You really aren't. And being honest about how down you are with others is liberating for them and you. Be buoyed in the knowledge there is support, others will relate and you are very much worthwhile. Hugs. Samaritans have a helpline you can call anytime. Please use it if you're in crisis."" Thank you, very helpful! xx | |||
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"I'd like the collectives opinions please, to support my understanding. I'm a retired Midwife with some knowledge of mental health and indeed, have suffered issues of my own and have taken medications but I have never had depression. For those of you who successfully manage your drepression, was it a long journey of trying different therapies and meds? Even if managed, are there times it simply becomes overwhelming and you cannot function normally? I'm trying to understand a family member and support him. " I've sent you a direct message. I trust this was acceptable. | |||
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"the worst thing is when people who don't understand tell you to suck it up and get on with it, or there's nothing wrong with you. I have encountered this from family and now ex friends. The problem is often that people may have experienced sadness but not depression and think that they are the same. " totally agree, as you probably know you don't need that sort of negativity as there is enough there with your mindset | |||
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"I got some nice tasty pills from my GP a fortnight ago. I'm supposed to do some talking stuff to, but I haven't got round to it. Anyway the pills. I've not been on them long enough to have a significant effect on my mood, but everything seems to have moved up a notch, so intolerable is very bad, very bad is just bad etc. I have however felt like I've been sedated most of the day, I'm always tired, and yawning." (((hugs))) | |||
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"I got some nice tasty pills from my GP a fortnight ago. I'm supposed to do some talking stuff to, but I haven't got round to it. Anyway the pills. I've not been on them long enough to have a significant effect on my mood, but everything seems to have moved up a notch, so intolerable is very bad, very bad is just bad etc. I have however felt like I've been sedated most of the day, I'm always tired, and yawning." Give it a bit of time. Let yourself sleep, when you can, as it can be part of the healing... unless you sleep too much. | |||
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"I got some nice tasty pills from my GP a fortnight ago. I'm supposed to do some talking stuff to, but I haven't got round to it. Anyway the pills. I've not been on them long enough to have a significant effect on my mood, but everything seems to have moved up a notch, so intolerable is very bad, very bad is just bad etc. I have however felt like I've been sedated most of the day, I'm always tired, and yawning. (((hugs))) " Thank you *Hugs* back | |||
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"I got some nice tasty pills from my GP a fortnight ago. I'm supposed to do some talking stuff to, but I haven't got round to it. Anyway the pills. I've not been on them long enough to have a significant effect on my mood, but everything seems to have moved up a notch, so intolerable is very bad, very bad is just bad etc. I have however felt like I've been sedated most of the day, I'm always tired, and yawning. (((hugs))) Thank you *Hugs* back " Xxx | |||
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"I got some nice tasty pills from my GP a fortnight ago. I'm supposed to do some talking stuff to, but I haven't got round to it. Anyway the pills. I've not been on them long enough to have a significant effect on my mood, but everything seems to have moved up a notch, so intolerable is very bad, very bad is just bad etc. I have however felt like I've been sedated most of the day, I'm always tired, and yawning. Give it a bit of time. Let yourself sleep, when you can, as it can be part of the healing... unless you sleep too much. " I will, I mean I got another 14 days till I go back to my gp, then I may get a repeat prescription. Thing is I'm not tired, the yawning is a side effect that you cant control. Its really annoying | |||
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"I got some nice tasty pills from my GP a fortnight ago. I'm supposed to do some talking stuff to, but I haven't got round to it. Anyway the pills. I've not been on them long enough to have a significant effect on my mood, but everything seems to have moved up a notch, so intolerable is very bad, very bad is just bad etc. I have however felt like I've been sedated most of the day, I'm always tired, and yawning. Give it a bit of time. Let yourself sleep, when you can, as it can be part of the healing... unless you sleep too much. I will, I mean I got another 14 days till I go back to my gp, then I may get a repeat prescription. Thing is I'm not tired, the yawning is a side effect that you cant control. Its really annoying " What are you on, if you don't mind saying? Citalopram works for me, but I gain weight. Fluoxetine used to work for me but doesn't anymore, and I always lost weight on it. | |||
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"the worst thing is when people who don't understand tell you to suck it up and get on with it, or there's nothing wrong with you. I have encountered this from family and now ex friends. The problem is often that people may have experienced sadness but not depression and think that they are the same. " I've known a few people who went to their doctors saying they were depressed or threatening to kill themselves, be given medication and appointments to see a specialist and then not taken the medication or gone to their appointments. They recovered very quickly, which makes me think they weren't ill in the first place, just struggling to cope with a problem. | |||
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"...I will, I mean I got another 14 days till I go back to my gp, then I may get a repeat prescription. Thing is I'm not tired, the yawning is a side effect that you cant control. Its really annoying What are you on, if you don't mind saying? Citalopram works for me, but I gain weight. Fluoxetine used to work for me but doesn't anymore, and I always lost weight on it. " It's okay, I'm actually on Citalopram too. I take one 20mg tablet a day, normally when I wake up. I have thought of moving it to the afternoon as I get hit by sleepiness around 3/4 hours after I take it. | |||
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"the worst thing is when people who don't understand tell you to suck it up and get on with it, or there's nothing wrong with you. I have encountered this from family and now ex friends. The problem is often that people may have experienced sadness but not depression and think that they are the same. I've known a few people who went to their doctors saying they were depressed or threatening to kill themselves, be given medication and appointments to see a specialist and then not taken the medication or gone to their appointments. They recovered very quickly, which makes me think they weren't ill in the first place, just struggling to cope with a problem. " There is that too. Reactive depression is also tricky as people usually get through it but it feels horrendous when they're in it. | |||
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"...I will, I mean I got another 14 days till I go back to my gp, then I may get a repeat prescription. Thing is I'm not tired, the yawning is a side effect that you cant control. Its really annoying What are you on, if you don't mind saying? Citalopram works for me, but I gain weight. Fluoxetine used to work for me but doesn't anymore, and I always lost weight on it. It's okay, I'm actually on Citalopram too. I take one 20mg tablet a day, normally when I wake up. I have thought of moving it to the afternoon as I get hit by sleepiness around 3/4 hours after I take it." When I'm on it I take my Citalopram in the early evening and it helps me sleep through the night. Sleeplessness dogs me when I am depressed. | |||
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"...What are you on, if you don't mind saying? Citalopram works for me, but I gain weight. Fluoxetine used to work for me but doesn't anymore, and I always lost weight on it. It's okay, I'm actually on Citalopram too. I take one 20mg tablet a day, normally when I wake up. I have thought of moving it to the afternoon as I get hit by sleepiness around 3/4 hours after I take it. When I'm on it I take my Citalopram in the early evening and it helps me sleep through the night. Sleeplessness dogs me when I am depressed. " See I sleep too much. It's been so long I cant remember if that's just "me" or my mental state. When I first started I stayed awake till 3am, and slept till around 8am. And I couldn't change it. Now I get about 8/9 hours again. | |||
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"I got diagnosed with phycosis (which dr and myself agree was total bull. And while being low the only thing that pushed me was the forces. Which because of previous "diagnosis" got me discharged. As for meds I stopped taking them just told them it worked. I woke up in the morning and had no drive it was "get up do what you needed to" go back to bed at the end of the day chat was few words and I became involved in alcohol (only that) and then it was threw the week during the day when I was off on holiday I was drinking Monday to Sunday in between work and college. It's a struggle but don't listen to NHS OR DOCTORS ITS NOT A DISEASE. it's all in the head ironically worded, basically your in the middle of a war zone in your head all the time support them BUT don't push them to respond or anything." Are you saying depression is not a disease? If so you are dangerous wrong. Depression and bi polar are most definitely 100% a clinical illness just like a broken leg or cancer or PTSD. Unfortunately depression and bi polar the hardest illness to treat. | |||
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"I got diagnosed with phycosis (which dr and myself agree was total bull. And while being low the only thing that pushed me was the forces. Which because of previous "diagnosis" got me discharged. As for meds I stopped taking them just told them it worked. I woke up in the morning and had no drive it was "get up do what you needed to" go back to bed at the end of the day chat was few words and I became involved in alcohol (only that) and then it was threw the week during the day when I was off on holiday I was drinking Monday to Sunday in between work and college. It's a struggle but don't listen to NHS OR DOCTORS ITS NOT A DISEASE. it's all in the head ironically worded, basically your in the middle of a war zone in your head all the time support them BUT don't push them to respond or anything. Are you saying depression is not a disease? If so you are dangerous wrong. Depression and bi polar are most definitely 100% a clinical illness just like a broken leg or cancer or PTSD. Unfortunately depression and bi polar the hardest illness to treat." Ok yes fair play but it may be an illness but it's treated like disease and often taken the wrong way. I told a lass about this once and when I explained what was in my head at the time see looked scared and literally stepped away from me. If you see what I mean. Its the hardest to treat but it's like cancer we all have it each and every single person has depression. | |||
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"I got diagnosed with phycosis (which dr and myself agree was total bull. And while being low the only thing that pushed me was the forces. Which because of previous "diagnosis" got me discharged. As for meds I stopped taking them just told them it worked. I woke up in the morning and had no drive it was "get up do what you needed to" go back to bed at the end of the day chat was few words and I became involved in alcohol (only that) and then it was threw the week during the day when I was off on holiday I was drinking Monday to Sunday in between work and college. It's a struggle but don't listen to NHS OR DOCTORS ITS NOT A DISEASE. it's all in the head ironically worded, basically your in the middle of a war zone in your head all the time support them BUT don't push them to respond or anything. Are you saying depression is not a disease? If so you are dangerous wrong. Depression and bi polar are most definitely 100% a clinical illness just like a broken leg or cancer or PTSD. Unfortunately depression and bi polar the hardest illness to treat. Ok yes fair play but it may be an illness but it's treated like disease and often taken the wrong way. I told a lass about this once and when I explained what was in my head at the time see looked scared and literally stepped away from me. If you see what I mean. Its the hardest to treat but it's like cancer we all have it each and every single person has depression." Not sure what your trying to say. My line is.....the medical line It is an illness but it can be very complex and hard to treat. No. Not everyone has depression but anyone can suffer from it. There's a small but significant difference. It's a very hard illness for a lot of people - no suffers - to understand. Just like men can not comprehend the feeling of pregnancy or motherhood. | |||
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"Treatment starts with the unwell person wanting to get better. Without that most else can fail. As has been mentioned one size does not fit all but a combination of therapies, medication and a healthy lifestyle can all work. Don't underestimate some people's reactions to additives in food too " they also have to admit they're ill, biggest thing to help get better | |||
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"Meds didn't and don't make me happier, they make me feel calmer and less overwhelmed. Not on any at the moment, but when i had my last lot (which were different to the ones i'd had previously), my dose was upped gradually over a few weeks by my Dr, as to how he thought i was doing. They were more effective than the last lot i was on too, and they didn't make me feel numb. Just calmer. Took a few weeks to kick in, which was when i was on the right dosage for me. " People assume that medication for depression and anxiety are happy pills and you'll take one and be the life and soul of the party. They don't understand that they enable you to just about function. | |||
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"I'm reluctant to go into too much detail about medication, but here's my thoughts. Medication can be over prescribed, I remember when speaking to a GP once about my depression she was filling out a prescription before discussing it with me. But medication has been very helpful for me. Therapy? Still on the fence about that. I think medication isn't enough on its own, but it can give you that boost to find out other methods and sustain them. I can elaborate further. " I think you have to be ready for therapy, and medication can help you get to the stability to engage with that. You also have to find the right therapist and the right type of therapy. My earlier attempts at therapy just didn't work. When Lickety came into being I had just started therapy again and this time I was ready. Many £000s later and I felt able to stop therapy and medication and I haven't been back since. I will add the obvious, though. I spend more time on the forum when I am little bonkers than when I am not. | |||
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"I'd like the collectives opinions please, to support my understanding. I'm a retired Midwife with some knowledge of mental health and indeed, have suffered issues of my own and have taken medications but I have never had depression. For those of you who successfully manage your drepression, was it a long journey of trying different therapies and meds? Even if managed, are there times it simply becomes overwhelming and you cannot function normally? I'm trying to understand a family member and support him. I tried to reply to you in private but couldn't as you have blocked single men. " | |||
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"I'm reluctant to go into too much detail about medication, but here's my thoughts. Medication can be over prescribed, I remember when speaking to a GP once about my depression she was filling out a prescription before discussing it with me. But medication has been very helpful for me. Therapy? Still on the fence about that. I think medication isn't enough on its own, but it can give you that boost to find out other methods and sustain them. I can elaborate further. I think you have to be ready for therapy, and medication can help you get to the stability to engage with that. You also have to find the right therapist and the right type of therapy. My earlier attempts at therapy just didn't work. When Lickety came into being I had just started therapy again and this time I was ready. Many £000s later and I felt able to stop therapy and medication and I haven't been back since. I will add the obvious, though. I spend more time on the forum when I am little bonkers than when I am not. " Oh yes, very true. It seems so obvious now but back in 2012 I wasn't ready for CBT, plus I'm on the autistic spectrum and the practitioner was unwilling to take that into account. I've referred myself back to the same service as they've made a lot of changes, so fingers crossed. | |||
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"I'd like the collectives opinions please, to support my understanding. I'm a retired Midwife with some knowledge of mental health and indeed, have suffered issues of my own and have taken medications but I have never had depression. For those of you who successfully manage your drepression, was it a long journey of trying different therapies and meds? Even if managed, are there times it simply becomes overwhelming and you cannot function normally? I'm trying to understand a family member and support him. I tried to reply to you in private but couldn't as you have blocked single men. " No, I haven't, I only meet single men | |||
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" Oh yes, very true. It seems so obvious now but back in 2012 I wasn't ready for CBT, plus I'm on the autistic spectrum and the practitioner was unwilling to take that into account. I've referred myself back to the same service as they've made a lot of changes, so fingers crossed. " I was offered CBT about 20 years ago...I guess it must havd been in its infancy in those days or something but it seem to be based on a different universe to the one i live in. It was never going to work for me when it's premises did not compute for me. I think different people need different things. I'm not interested in being taught how to think, in fact I'm very resistant to the idea, so therapy will be a long journey for me. For me medications work very well and I'm lucky that i like the few side effects I get. The 10 years it took to find the right medications did fuck my life over though. | |||
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"Treatment starts with the unwell person wanting to get better. Without that most else can fail" I take your point but that's not wholly true in all cases regarding mental health, it's a little different to substance or alcohol addictions where oft it has to start with intrinsic motivation to change, I've known many cases where actually professional intervention unwanted actually did end up starting a process of support and increased awareness and help for the sufferer of severe depression. | |||
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"not even reading any other posts, you need to get professional help. not help from a swinging site" Maybe you should read them. Also OP is gathering some info and not making a diagnosis nor asking for one or anything like but asking people's individual experiences to inform her wider knowledge (she has some already) of how people have coped themselves -- there's rich info here and everyone is clear there's no one size fits all. You seem to miss the benefit of a forum and also underestimate the OP's intelligence. | |||
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"Meds didn't and don't make me happier, they make me feel calmer and less overwhelmed. Not on any at the moment, but when i had my last lot (which were different to the ones i'd had previously), my dose was upped gradually over a few weeks by my Dr, as to how he thought i was doing. They were more effective than the last lot i was on too, and they didn't make me feel numb. Just calmer. Took a few weeks to kick in, which was when i was on the right dosage for me. People assume that medication for depression and anxiety are happy pills and you'll take one and be the life and soul of the party. They don't understand that they enable you to just about function. " | |||
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