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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. " Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? | |||
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"Another good reason to bring back the death penalty and broaden the offensives it applies to "The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes. | |||
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"Another good reason to bring back the death penalty and broaden the offensives it applies to
The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes. "I went there. It's beautiful and the people were lovely and surprisingly well travelled.  | |||
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"What do you propose as the alternative, OP? Apart from a boarding school where the kid has to be taken from its parents? I'm asking seriously. Do you think they should pay a supplement to their kids education or something like that? In New York we pay school taxes according to local goverment guidelines, so this wouldn't be an issue for us. Maybe the tax burden should be reassessed based on location? I'm just thinking out loud." I honestly don't think it's right that a child should be bought up in such an isolated situation. They cannot possibility learn the social skills necessary for later life. I don't think tax pays should be supporting that choice by the parents. As a liberal minded person i wouldn't stop them home educating their child although i see that as a bad idea. But it's the enabling of it with tax payer money that i take issue with. Children that go to boarding schools are not generally unhappy children, it's actually far more fun to basically live in a big house with lots of other kids than be the only kid in a school just so you can sleep in a house with your parents at night. | |||
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The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes.
I went there. It's beautiful and the people were lovely and surprisingly well travelled. "I have family who grew up in similar circumstances. You wouldn't like them. | |||
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"What do you propose as the alternative, OP? Apart from a boarding school where the kid has to be taken from its parents? I'm asking seriously. Do you think they should pay a supplement to their kids education or something like that? In New York we pay school taxes according to local goverment guidelines, so this wouldn't be an issue for us. Maybe the tax burden should be reassessed based on location? I'm just thinking out loud. I honestly don't think it's right that a child should be bought up in such an isolated situation. They cannot possibility learn the social skills necessary for later life. I don't think tax pays should be supporting that choice by the parents. As a liberal minded person i wouldn't stop them home educating their child although i see that as a bad idea. But it's the enabling of it with tax payer money that i take issue with. Children that go to boarding schools are not generally unhappy children, it's actually far more fun to basically live in a big house with lots of other kids than be the only kid in a school just so you can sleep in a house with your parents at night." It's not your kid. Get over it | |||
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"What do you propose as the alternative, OP? Apart from a boarding school where the kid has to be taken from its parents? I'm asking seriously. Do you think they should pay a supplement to their kids education or something like that? In New York we pay school taxes according to local goverment guidelines, so this wouldn't be an issue for us. Maybe the tax burden should be reassessed based on location? I'm just thinking out loud. I honestly don't think it's right that a child should be bought up in such an isolated situation. They cannot possibility learn the social skills necessary for later life. I don't think tax pays should be supporting that choice by the parents. As a liberal minded person i wouldn't stop them home educating their child although i see that as a bad idea. But it's the enabling of it with tax payer money that i take issue with. Children that go to boarding schools are not generally unhappy children, it's actually far more fun to basically live in a big house with lots of other kids than be the only kid in a school just so you can sleep in a house with your parents at night." I think living with your family is more than sleeping in the same house as your parents, especially at 5 years of age. | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? " Serious question, do you think it's right this kid shouldn't have the chance of going to a local school just because it upsets your sensibilities....get fuckin over yourself | |||
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"What's this trend with people putting thumbs up at the end of their own posts!? Are you agreeing with yourself as you say it? " Yes Why would you not agree with yourself The thumbs don't cost anything | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? Serious question, do you think it's right this kid shouldn't have the chance of going to a local school just because it upsets your sensibilities....get fuckin over yourself " Yes i seriously think this kind of bullshit is why government spending gets out of control. Because everybody is allowed to make whatever stupid decision they want and the tax payer just has to fund it. A school for one kid, if that doesn't strike you as ridiculous then your sensibilities are off track. | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? " Why did they move there? | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? " I don't think it's right that I have to pay tax to educate anyone's child when I don't want any myself. | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? I don't think it's right that I have to pay tax to educate anyone's child when I don't want any myself." Or even pay tax to raise them. I don't complain about it though. | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? I don't think it's right that I have to pay tax to educate anyone's child when I don't want any myself." What if you needed an operation and someone's child grew up to be a surgeon and was the only person on the earth that could do your operation. Would you be pissed off that you'd contributed to this persons early education or would you just suck it up and realise it's a tiny percentage of your tax that goes towards the education system. You really hate children don't you. | |||
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"What's this trend with people putting thumbs up at the end of their own posts!? Are you agreeing with yourself as you say it? Yes Why would you not agree with yourself The thumbs don't cost anything "Cool. Have some on me. | |||
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"What if you needed an operation and someone's child grew up to be a surgeon and was the only person on the earth that could do your operation. Would you be pissed off that you'd contributed to this persons early education or would you just suck it up and realise it's a tiny percentage of your tax that goes towards the education system." Rubbish example - I pay NI, so would be allowed the treatment (you'd hope). "You really hate children don't you. " Not really. | |||
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The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes.
I went there. It's beautiful and the people were lovely and surprisingly well travelled. "Probably more broad minded than some on here I suspect.. | |||
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"In answer to the OP, I suppose it would depend on how far away the nearest school was for me as to whether they should maybe travel to school instead but it seems it is two and half hours by ferry to the Shetland mainland, although a shorter trip of 15 minutes by plane. They seem to get cut off a lot with the weather so the kid may not be in school much if there was no school and they had to travel" Thank you for the sensible reply, they are getting few and far between. I think parents should move to where a sustainable school is rather than run an unsustainable school for two parents. Most state schools are expected to run on ~£4,500 per pupil per year. | |||
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"What if you needed an operation and someone's child grew up to be a surgeon and was the only person on the earth that could do your operation. Would you be pissed off that you'd contributed to this persons early education or would you just suck it up and realise it's a tiny percentage of your tax that goes towards the education system. Rubbish example - I pay NI, so would be allowed the treatment (you'd hope). You really hate children don't you. Not really." National Insuarance would ensure you got the op, the child's education would give them the skills to do it. | |||
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"What if you needed an operation and someone's child grew up to be a surgeon and was the only person on the earth that could do your operation. Would you be pissed off that you'd contributed to this persons early education or would you just suck it up and realise it's a tiny percentage of your tax that goes towards the education system. Rubbish example - I pay NI, so would be allowed the treatment (you'd hope). You really hate children don't you. Not really. National Insuarance would ensure you got the op, the child's education would give them the skills to do it. " And their parents can finance those skills (in early years), and they can get a student loan like everyone else when their old enough for the rest of that training. | |||
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"In answer to the OP, I suppose it would depend on how far away the nearest school was for me as to whether they should maybe travel to school instead but it seems it is two and half hours by ferry to the Shetland mainland, although a shorter trip of 15 minutes by plane. They seem to get cut off a lot with the weather so the kid may not be in school much if there was no school and they had to travel Thank you for the sensible reply, they are getting few and far between. I think parents should move to where a sustainable school is rather than run an unsustainable school for two parents. Most state schools are expected to run on ~£4,500 per pupil per year. " so only childless people should be allowed to live there? not sure i'd welcome a system that dictated where its citizens can or can't live.. | |||
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"In answer to the OP, I suppose it would depend on how far away the nearest school was for me as to whether they should maybe travel to school instead but it seems it is two and half hours by ferry to the Shetland mainland, although a shorter trip of 15 minutes by plane. They seem to get cut off a lot with the weather so the kid may not be in school much if there was no school and they had to travel Thank you for the sensible reply, they are getting few and far between. I think parents should move to where a sustainable school is rather than run an unsustainable school for two parents. Most state schools are expected to run on ~£4,500 per pupil per year. " If the parents are employed where they are or are needed on the island then I am not sure making them move is the answer. For me I couldn't deal with that much isolation but if they are born there and know no different it would be a huge wrench to have to move so your child can use a different school | |||
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"Op whatever you do don't Google just how much money has been wasted by government over the past few decades on reforming the Nhs IT systems, welfare reforms, regional fire controls etc oh yes and pointless wars in foreign places.." Tell me about it, £12bn on that fucking NHS it system that didn't work  | |||
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"What do you propose as the alternative, OP? Apart from a boarding school where the kid has to be taken from its parents? I'm asking seriously. Do you think they should pay a supplement to their kids education or something like that? In New York we pay school taxes according to local goverment guidelines, so this wouldn't be an issue for us. Maybe the tax burden should be reassessed based on location? I'm just thinking out loud. I honestly don't think it's right that a child should be bought up in such an isolated situation. They cannot possibility learn the social skills necessary for later life. I don't think tax pays should be supporting that choice by the parents. As a liberal minded person i wouldn't stop them home educating their child although i see that as a bad idea. But it's the enabling of it with tax payer money that i take issue with. Children that go to boarding schools are not generally unhappy children, it's actually far more fun to basically live in a big house with lots of other kids than be the only kid in a school just so you can sleep in a house with your parents at night." Seems a bit paternalistic to me. I'd be more in favor of regional taxes for education. I don't really like paying for education when I'm never going to have kids anyway, but I can see why we do it. But I think what everyone pays should be determined by their situation, and where someone lives is part of that. When someone buys a house in NY part of the consideration is school taxes (I know it was for me), and I think that would work in this scenario. I'd rather have that then pay for some kid in the Shetlands to get a better private school education than other kids who live in cities and who won't be offered the choice. | |||
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"Love it when someone says that a reply is not sensible because it's not in agreement with their view of the world - which I am extremely glad about since opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one!" If we all demanded 11x the normal public services funding for our arbitrary life choices then we'd end up with.... about £1.9 trillion of debt... | |||
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"So you can earn £49,133 being a teacher, and by default head teacher, for a school with one pupil in the shetland islands. One fucking pupil. They could be sent to an elite boarding school at the tax payers expense and still give us change. " I've applied for it lol | |||
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"Love it when someone says that a reply is not sensible because it's not in agreement with their view of the world - which I am extremely glad about since opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one! If we all demanded 11x the normal public services funding for our arbitrary life choices then we'd end up with.... about £1.9 trillion of debt..." My point was (although I'm sure you found few and far between) that the system isn't "fair" to begin with. It seems funny how you can take with one hand but not give with the other. | |||
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"So you can earn £49,133 being a teacher, and by default head teacher, for a school with one pupil in the shetland islands. One fucking pupil. They could be sent to an elite boarding school at the tax payers expense and still give us change. I've applied for it lol "The best job I've seen recently was in the MJ for a social worker for £60k, working on Saint Helena. | |||
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"Love it when someone says that a reply is not sensible because it's not in agreement with their view of the world - which I am extremely glad about since opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one!" Here here! Lol ?? | |||
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"What's this trend with people putting thumbs up at the end of their own posts!? Are you agreeing with yourself as you say it? " You started off complaining. A nice usually cheers someone up.
A up might also dilute the sarcastic undertone to my post, it didn't mean to distract - it was a serious point I was making.
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"Love it when someone says that a reply is not sensible because it's not in agreement with their view of the world - which I am extremely glad about since opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one! If we all demanded 11x the normal public services funding for our arbitrary life choices then we'd end up with.... about £1.9 trillion of debt... My point was (although I'm sure you found few and far between) that the system isn't "fair" to begin with. It seems funny how you can take with one hand but not give with the other." Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. | |||
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"Blimey I just googled, that is very isolated. Is it good for anyone never mind a lone child" Have you seen the hills have eyes? | |||
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"So you can earn £49,133 being a teacher, and by default head teacher, for a school with one pupil in the shetland islands. One fucking pupil. They could be sent to an elite boarding school at the tax payers expense and still give us change. I've applied for it lol "Not sure there's much of a swinging scene there? Better pack a good supply of toys and batteries if you get it. | |||
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"So you can earn £49,133 being a teacher, and by default head teacher, for a school with one pupil in the shetland islands. One fucking pupil. They could be sent to an elite boarding school at the tax payers expense and still give us change. " Just seen this Daily Mail article "Island child sent to elite boarding school...AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT" | |||
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"Another good reason to bring back the death penalty and broaden the offensives it applies to
The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes. "Really?! That's a sweeping statement and a half.  | |||
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"Love it when someone says that a reply is not sensible because it's not in agreement with their view of the world - which I am extremely glad about since opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one! If we all demanded 11x the normal public services funding for our arbitrary life choices then we'd end up with.... about £1.9 trillion of debt... My point was (although I'm sure you found few and far between) that the system isn't "fair" to begin with. It seems funny how you can take with one hand but not give with the other. Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. " You should move and gain a better wage for services. Doesn't take a genius. | |||
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"So you can earn £49,133 being a teacher, and by default head teacher, for a school with one pupil in the shetland islands. One fucking pupil. They could be sent to an elite boarding school at the tax payers expense and still give us change. Just seen this Daily Mail article "Island child sent to elite boarding school...AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT"" More chance of churning out a Noble Laureate | |||
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"Another good reason to bring back the death penalty and broaden the offensives it applies to
The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes.
Really?! That's a sweeping statement and a half.
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"Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. " Average. I'd like to see how those figures are broken up and calculated. It doesn't necessarily mean you are part of that either. I made the point about arbitrary life choices - like having children to begin with. People without have to pay for them, so where do you draw the line? | |||
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"Love it when someone says that a reply is not sensible because it's not in agreement with their view of the world - which I am extremely glad about since opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one! If we all demanded 11x the normal public services funding for our arbitrary life choices then we'd end up with.... about £1.9 trillion of debt... My point was (although I'm sure you found few and far between) that the system isn't "fair" to begin with. It seems funny how you can take with one hand but not give with the other. Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. You should move and gain a better wage for services. Doesn't take a genius. "That doesn't make sense. | |||
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The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes.
Really?! That's a sweeping statement and a half.
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"Love it when someone says that a reply is not sensible because it's not in agreement with their view of the world - which I am extremely glad about since opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one! If we all demanded 11x the normal public services funding for our arbitrary life choices then we'd end up with.... about £1.9 trillion of debt... My point was (although I'm sure you found few and far between) that the system isn't "fair" to begin with. It seems funny how you can take with one hand but not give with the other. Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. You should move and gain a better wage for services. Doesn't take a genius.
That doesn't make sense. "Yep - Not a genius today. Tried. Failed. | |||
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"Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. Average. I'd like to see how those figures are broken up and calculated. It doesn't necessarily mean you are part of that either. I made the point about arbitrary life choices - like having children to begin with. People without have to pay for them, so where do you draw the line?" I did a BBC website calculator too, i pay a lot more tax than i use. I'm fine paying tax for state schools even though i'll never use them. I just think its wrong for a family to get 11x the national average. | |||
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" If we all demanded 11x the normal public services funding for our arbitrary life choices then we'd end up with.... about £1.9 trillion of debt..." Read what you just typed again. Specifically your useage of the word "arbitrary".... | |||
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"I did a BBC website calculator too, i pay a lot more tax than i use. I'm fine paying tax for state schools even though i'll never use them. I just think its wrong for a family to get 11x the national average. " Without looking I can't really comment on their calculator, but uncertainty isn't something that can be really be calculated - you could quite fast eat through your "credit". I do understand your point though - I was just posing a different point of view. | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? I don't think it's right that I have to pay tax to educate anyone's child when I don't want any myself. Or even pay tax to raise them. I don't complain about it though." . Wait till you pay a big fortune for a small house in a good catchment area??. Then you'll be proper grown up like us | |||
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"Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. Average. I'd like to see how those figures are broken up and calculated. It doesn't necessarily mean you are part of that either. I made the point about arbitrary life choices - like having children to begin with. People without have to pay for them, so where do you draw the line? I did a BBC website calculator too, i pay a lot more tax than i use. I'm fine paying tax for state schools even though i'll never use them. I just think its wrong for a family to get 11x the national average. " . Oh what happend to you! Whatever happend to me?. What became of the people we used to be | |||
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" In New York we pay school taxes according to local goverment guidelines, " [off topic] Lol. You guys are ACTUALLY American?.... And not just a username? Talk dirty to me in 'merrican. | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? I don't think it's right that I have to pay tax to educate anyone's child when I don't want any myself. Or even pay tax to raise them. I don't complain about it though.. Wait till you pay a big fortune for a small house in a good catchment area??. Then you'll be proper grown up like us "I never want to be a proper growed up! | |||
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"They might not want to be taken from their parents at the age of 5. Serious question, do you think it's right that we all have to literally fund an entire school because two parents want to live in the middle of nowhere? I don't think it's right that I have to pay tax to educate anyone's child when I don't want any myself. Or even pay tax to raise them. I don't complain about it though.. Wait till you pay a big fortune for a small house in a good catchment area??. Then you'll be proper grown up like us
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" In New York we pay school taxes according to local goverment guidelines, [off topic] Lol. You guys are ACTUALLY American?.... And not just a username? Talk dirty to me in 'merrican. "Yee-haw! Ummmmm. That's all I've got.  | |||
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" In New York we pay school taxes according to local goverment guidelines, [off topic] Lol. You guys are ACTUALLY American?.... And not just a username? Talk dirty to me in 'merrican.
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"Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. Average. I'd like to see how those figures are broken up and calculated. It doesn't necessarily mean you are part of that either. I made the point about arbitrary life choices - like having children to begin with. People without have to pay for them, so where do you draw the line? I did a BBC website calculator too, i pay a lot more tax than i use. I'm fine paying tax for state schools even though i'll never use them. I just think its wrong for a family to get 11x the national average. " Maybe they could come with an alternative home schooling type scenario but if both parents work & I believe the dad is away for months on ends, then that's not going to pan out either. The lad is entitled to an education whether you agree with it or not. I think for secondary education they travel to Lerwick & board so it's a primary schooling issue. | |||
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"All children have a right to an education regardless of where they live or what their circumstances are. While I get that a school for one person may seem a bit crazy, that's less money for the government to spend on nuclear weapons and other war type objects that quite frankly give me more worry than a school for 1 x" We are committed to spend 2% of GDP on defence as NATO members so education spending doesn't detract from military spending. | |||
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"Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. Average. I'd like to see how those figures are broken up and calculated. It doesn't necessarily mean you are part of that either. I made the point about arbitrary life choices - like having children to begin with. People without have to pay for them, so where do you draw the line? I did a BBC website calculator too, i pay a lot more tax than i use. I'm fine paying tax for state schools even though i'll never use them. I just think its wrong for a family to get 11x the national average. Maybe they could come with an alternative home schooling type scenario but if both parents work & I believe the dad is away for months on ends, then that's not going to pan out either. The lad is entitled to an education whether you agree with it or not. I think for secondary education they travel to Lerwick & board so it's a primary schooling issue." So if I've understood correctly, there's a school for one pupil so the kid can be around their parents, but the dad isn't actually around that much anyway. When the kid reaches secondary school age they will go to boarding school anyway? | |||
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"Who is taking what sorry? The average person in the south east pays £1,667 more in tax than services we use. One of only 3 regions in the UK that make a positive contribution. Average. I'd like to see how those figures are broken up and calculated. It doesn't necessarily mean you are part of that either. I made the point about arbitrary life choices - like having children to begin with. People without have to pay for them, so where do you draw the line? I did a BBC website calculator too, i pay a lot more tax than i use. I'm fine paying tax for state schools even though i'll never use them. I just think its wrong for a family to get 11x the national average. Maybe they could come with an alternative home schooling type scenario but if both parents work & I believe the dad is away for months on ends, then that's not going to pan out either. The lad is entitled to an education whether you agree with it or not. I think for secondary education they travel to Lerwick & board so it's a primary schooling issue. So if I've understood correctly, there's a school for one pupil so the kid can be around their parents, but the dad isn't actually around that much anyway. When the kid reaches secondary school age they will go to boarding school anyway? " I dunno you tell me it's your OP. I googled daily mail and Shetland school and that's the story it came back with from 2015. His dad is a fisherman, hence the location. Good job he will go away to secondary school otherwise you'd be complaining about that expense too....  | |||
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The whole island has a population of 32. That kid is going to turn out like something from the hills have eyes. "Once they start making big baskets then I'm gone  | |||
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"Liberal ...... hawww that made me laugh" Yes liberals tend to resent taxation if you understand the term properly | |||
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