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"define evil. i'm ignostic so need that explaining." A witch in the form of a scary television named Edna . | |||
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"define evil. i'm ignostic so need that explaining. A witch in the form of a scary television named Edna . " I am so Mavis. | |||
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"define evil. i'm ignostic so need that explaining. A witch in the form of a scary television named Edna . " probably the best answer i'm gonna get, so will take that. willo the wisp will save us all. | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. I'd make the world realise what a lazy stance the "if there's a god why does he let bad things happen?" argument is. " It is not a lazy argument. Try to argue it with someone and you will see how bottomless the point is. | |||
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"Why is it God responsibility to change it ? It is us that change it because it is humans that are screwing it up not god. I believe in god but i believe god is their to give me strength to face life challanges. God wont do anything for me. I have to do it myself, but having his strength will guide me " So god chooses not to stop the things you face. | |||
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"Why is it God responsibility to change it ? It is us that change it because it is humans that are screwing it up not god. I believe in god but i believe god is their to give me strength to face life challanges. God wont do anything for me. I have to do it myself, but having his strength will guide me So god chooses not to stop the things you face. " No why should he or she they are lifes challenges that i have to face the majority of my own making not gods making | |||
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" It is us that change it because it is humans that are screwing it up not god. " But "God" created humans?... Are you saying that "God" who is, incidentally and allegedly supposed to be "perfect"..are you saying his creation has malfunctioned? Well holy shit! Why didn't "god" who is indeed "perfect" and can indeed see the future, never saw that balls up coming?.. I'm Atheist. So take what I've just said with a bucketful of salt. Because I'm biased on this subject. I just don't believe God exists. | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. " If I could change anything about this world , it would be to eradicate man's inhumanity to man. I am agnostic - however, those that do believe , maintain that God gave people free will. Good and evil reside in the hands of the people. | |||
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" It is us that change it because it is humans that are screwing it up not god. But "God" created humans?... Are you saying that "God" who is, incidentally and allegedly supposed to be "perfect"..are you saying his creation has malfunctioned? Well holy shit! Why didn't "god" who is indeed "perfect" and can indeed see the future, never saw that balls up coming?.. " Biblically speaking, God created man and woman and let them live in the Garden of Eden, paradise basically, on the condition that they didn't eat from the Tree of Knowledge. After eating the apple they became aware of the suffering, hardship and pain (inc childbirth) of the world outside Eden. God expelled them from Eden. Basically by eating the fruit humans chose to have free will to make their own choices and accepted the harshness of life. Free will also means that the future is not written and we have control over our own destinies so to speak. | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. " I would like judgemental people to take a good, long, hard look at themselves Why hasn't he? Free will - Mrs. J - | |||
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" It is us that change it because it is humans that are screwing it up not god. But "God" created humans?... Are you saying that "God" who is, incidentally and allegedly supposed to be "perfect"..are you saying his creation has malfunctioned? Well holy shit! Why didn't "god" who is indeed "perfect" and can indeed see the future, never saw that balls up coming?.. Biblically speaking, God created man and woman and let them live in the Garden of Eden, paradise basically, on the condition that they didn't eat from the Tree of Knowledge. After eating the apple they became aware of the suffering, hardship and pain (inc childbirth) of the world outside Eden. God expelled them from Eden. Basically by eating the fruit humans chose to have free will to make their own choices and accepted the harshness of life. Free will also means that the future is not written and we have control over our own destinies so to speak. " And there's the problems we face . We are given choice and free will , and inevitably we make poor choices and our will is driven by greed , power and evil . | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. " I don't believe in an omnipotent, benign god. Good and evil are two sides of the same coin and like "God" come from inside ourselves. What would I change? Humanity. | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. " gods..... | |||
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"I would say its hard to believe in inteligent design and then say your god is seriourly flawed. " ^^ | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1" as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil? | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil?" . Like an eternity in hell .. Pretty fitting for a regular wanker I feel | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil?" great point | |||
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"mustn't let your karma reverse over your dogma" . Ahhh there you are God!. The guy above was just saying what you think about wanking, me I never do it | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil?" Well there is in the religon i follow | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil? Well there is in the religon i follow " we have much to learn before we can debate. | |||
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"just google the wiki for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy all the answers are there. only just found this myself. why did god create chocolate and diabetes? nobody ever asks that." Perfect at last someone understands the problem. | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil? Well there is in the religon i follow we have much to learn before we can debate. " Off course no-one is right or wrong and i have not desire to push my beliefs onto anyone else just show a different way of thinking | |||
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"just google the wiki for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy all the answers are there. only just found this myself. why did god create chocolate and diabetes? nobody ever asks that. Perfect at last someone understands the problem. " I am gonna be annoying lol God didnt create chocolate he created cocoa we as humans created chocolate and stuffed our faces with it lol | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil? Well there is in the religon i follow we have much to learn before we can debate. Off course no-one is right or wrong and i have not desire to push my beliefs onto anyone else just show a different way of thinking " i sometimesdebate to learn new things, it's why i ask questions as well as spout what i think. | |||
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"just google the wiki for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy all the answers are there. only just found this myself. why did god create chocolate and diabetes? nobody ever asks that. Perfect at last someone understands the problem. " at least chocolate isn't a concept. | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil? Well there is in the religon i follow we have much to learn before we can debate. Off course no-one is right or wrong and i have not desire to push my beliefs onto anyone else just show a different way of thinking i sometimesdebate to learn new things, it's why i ask questions as well as spout what i think." Knowledge is a good thing i feel | |||
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"too busy playing grand tourismo on ps1 as an omnipotent deity do you have the power of evil? Well there is in the religon i follow we have much to learn before we can debate. Off course no-one is right or wrong and i have not desire to push my beliefs onto anyone else just show a different way of thinking i sometimes debate to learn new things, it's why i ask questions as well as spout what i think. Knowledge is a good thing i feel " usually just end up with more questions tbh. but now i understand the chocolate and god debate more already. | |||
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"This problem has been asked for over 400 years. It even has its own name for all the answers. But not one definitive answer has been presented. " But why is that a problem ? As humans we can rarely agree on anything lol If i asked you which is the best chocolate bar could you give me a definitive answer ? | |||
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"This problem has been asked for over 400 years. It even has its own name for all the answers. But not one definitive answer has been presented. But why is that a problem ? As humans we can rarely agree on anything lol If i asked you which is the best chocolate bar could you give me a definitive answer ?" Well obviously its Montezuma chilli chocolate! | |||
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"This problem has been asked for over 400 years. It even has its own name for all the answers. But not one definitive answer has been presented. But why is that a problem ? As humans we can rarely agree on anything lol If i asked you which is the best chocolate bar could you give me a definitive answer ? Well obviously its Montezuma chilli chocolate! " | |||
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""Evil" is simply a term that was created by humans and is subjective to each person. It is been proven that each and every human being has the ability to be "evil" or commit acts that would be seen as "evil" What is "evil" to some may be justifiable to others. Personally I think some things happen and as horrible as it is there's no stopping humans from committing such acts no matter what things you remove. Unless you remove the human race that is... ~Mia" exclude human acts. Now let's talk about mass destruction of children by volcanoes or earthquakes or disease or famine. | |||
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"Well obviously its Montezuma chilli chocolate! " ok, well i'll own up. that was one of mine. | |||
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""Evil" is simply a term that was created by humans and is subjective to each person. It is been proven that each and every human being has the ability to be "evil" or commit acts that would be seen as "evil" What is "evil" to some may be justifiable to others. Personally I think some things happen and as horrible as it is there's no stopping humans from committing such acts no matter what things you remove. Unless you remove the human race that is... ~Miaexclude human acts. Now let's talk about mass destruction of children by volcanoes or earthquakes or disease or famine. " 'God' did not make the parents of 'innocent' children live next to a live volcano, nor did 'God' infect the children with disease or famine (which could also be argued to be the fault of the parent to some degree). 'God' gave life in all its glory. Just because 'God' can exist does not mean evolution and science can not. | |||
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" It is us that change it because it is humans that are screwing it up not god. But "God" created humans?... Are you saying that "God" who is, incidentally and allegedly supposed to be "perfect"..are you saying his creation has malfunctioned? Well holy shit! Why didn't "god" who is indeed "perfect" and can indeed see the future, never saw that balls up coming?.. I'm Atheist. So take what I've just said with a bucketful of salt. Because I'm biased on this subject. I just don't believe God exists." | |||
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"I never had any imaginary friends even as a child & I'm not going to start now. We all have a capacity for good and evil. It's got nothing to do with an ancient fable. Oh & if god is real, then he's done, & been part of some pretty evil shit of his own. Read the old testament,vengeful and vain and callous. It's in his own book ffs. Lol. I'll have bugger all to do with it thanks, ill keep my own dark shit in check because I believe in good, not god." If you dont want to believe thats all good. I'd just like to point out its not just about the old testament and new testament. | |||
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"I never had any imaginary friends even as a child & I'm not going to start now. We all have a capacity for good and evil. It's got nothing to do with an ancient fable. Oh & if god is real, then he's done, & been part of some pretty evil shit of his own. Read the old testament,vengeful and vain and callous. It's in his own book ffs. Lol. I'll have bugger all to do with it thanks, ill keep my own dark shit in check because I believe in good, not god." | |||
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""Evil" is simply a term that was created by humans and is subjective to each person. It is been proven that each and every human being has the ability to be "evil" or commit acts that would be seen as "evil" What is "evil" to some may be justifiable to others. Personally I think some things happen and as horrible as it is there's no stopping humans from committing such acts no matter what things you remove. Unless you remove the human race that is... ~Miaexclude human acts. Now let's talk about mass destruction of children by volcanoes or earthquakes or disease or famine. 'God' did not make the parents of 'innocent' children live next to a live volcano, nor did 'God' infect the children with disease or famine (which could also be argued to be the fault of the parent to some degree). 'God' gave life in all its glory. Just because 'God' can exist does not mean evolution and science can not." what is the reason you believe a god exists ? | |||
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"I never had any imaginary friends even as a child & I'm not going to start now. We all have a capacity for good and evil. It's got nothing to do with an ancient fable. Oh & if god is real, then he's done, & been part of some pretty evil shit of his own. Read the old testament,vengeful and vain and callous. It's in his own book ffs. Lol. I'll have bugger all to do with it thanks, ill keep my own dark shit in check because I believe in good, not god. If you dont want to believe thats all good. I'd just like to point out its not just about the old testament and new testament. Ok how about the 10 commandments? Should we obey them or not ? " | |||
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"I never had any imaginary friends even as a child & I'm not going to start now. We all have a capacity for good and evil. It's got nothing to do with an ancient fable. Oh & if god is real, then he's done, & been part of some pretty evil shit of his own. Read the old testament,vengeful and vain and callous. It's in his own book ffs. Lol. I'll have bugger all to do with it thanks, ill keep my own dark shit in check because I believe in good, not god. If you dont want to believe thats all good. I'd just like to point out its not just about the old testament and new testament. Ok how about the 10 commandments? Should we obey them or not ? " I belive in god but i dont believe in any of the above. What i believe is from a completely different religon i believe in love and humanity and that god gives me the strength to do that. | |||
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"I never had any imaginary friends even as a child & I'm not going to start now. We all have a capacity for good and evil. It's got nothing to do with an ancient fable. Oh & if god is real, then he's done, & been part of some pretty evil shit of his own. Read the old testament,vengeful and vain and callous. It's in his own book ffs. Lol. I'll have bugger all to do with it thanks, ill keep my own dark shit in check because I believe in good, not god. If you dont want to believe thats all good. I'd just like to point out its not just about the old testament and new testament. Ok how about the 10 commandments? Should we obey them or not ? I belive in god but i dont believe in any of the above. What i believe is from a completely different religon i believe in love and humanity and that god gives me the strength to do that. " which god is that ? There are nearly 3000 still worshipped. | |||
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"I never had any imaginary friends even as a child & I'm not going to start now. We all have a capacity for good and evil. It's got nothing to do with an ancient fable. Oh & if god is real, then he's done, & been part of some pretty evil shit of his own. Read the old testament,vengeful and vain and callous. It's in his own book ffs. Lol. I'll have bugger all to do with it thanks, ill keep my own dark shit in check because I believe in good, not god. If you dont want to believe thats all good. I'd just like to point out its not just about the old testament and new testament. Ok how about the 10 commandments? Should we obey them or not ? I belive in god but i dont believe in any of the above. What i believe is from a completely different religon i believe in love and humanity and that god gives me the strength to do that. which god is that ? There are nearly 3000 still worshipped. " I follow hinduism and i see it more as a way of life rather than what i should do and what i shouldnt do. At the last count i do believe i have 330 millon to chose from pmsl | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. " It's up to us, not any God, about how we behave | |||
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"How does it go 'All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing'? Some would say evil is simply the absence of good." Well said | |||
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""Evil" is simply a term that was created by humans and is subjective to each person. It is been proven that each and every human being has the ability to be "evil" or commit acts that would be seen as "evil" What is "evil" to some may be justifiable to others. Personally I think some things happen and as horrible as it is there's no stopping humans from committing such acts no matter what things you remove. Unless you remove the human race that is... ~Miaexclude human acts. Now let's talk about mass destruction of children by volcanoes or earthquakes or disease or famine. 'God' did not make the parents of 'innocent' children live next to a live volcano, nor did 'God' infect the children with disease or famine (which could also be argued to be the fault of the parent to some degree). 'God' gave life in all its glory. Just because 'God' can exist does not mean evolution and science can not. what is the reason you believe a god exists ?" I never said I believed in 'God'. However, in order to answer your question as to why God allows the death of children we have to assume 'God' is real. | |||
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""Evil" is simply a term that was created by humans and is subjective to each person. It is been proven that each and every human being has the ability to be "evil" or commit acts that would be seen as "evil" What is "evil" to some may be justifiable to others. Personally I think some things happen and as horrible as it is there's no stopping humans from committing such acts no matter what things you remove. Unless you remove the human race that is... ~Miaexclude human acts. Now let's talk about mass destruction of children by volcanoes or earthquakes or disease or famine. " I don't think you can class acts of nature as something that can be defined as evil. It's just something that happens. It is unfortunate but you can't define natural acts as evil as it isn't done deliberately unlike human acts ~Mia | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. I'd make the world realise what a lazy stance the "if there's a god why does he let bad things happen?" argument is. " No one likes to take responsibility. ..We blame everyone else because....of course they are responsible but never me..... So god why did YOU let it happen if you exist? There must be no god because he/she (gender neutral) has let evil happen as of course they are responsible and not me or us. Argument :- there is no god because I can't take any responsibility for the shit that happens here. | |||
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""Evil" is simply a term that was created by humans and is subjective to each person. It is been proven that each and every human being has the ability to be "evil" or commit acts that would be seen as "evil" What is "evil" to some may be justifiable to others. Personally I think some things happen and as horrible as it is there's no stopping humans from committing such acts no matter what things you remove. Unless you remove the human race that is... ~Miaexclude human acts. Now let's talk about mass destruction of children by volcanoes or earthquakes or disease or famine. I don't think you can class acts of nature as something that can be defined as evil. It's just something that happens. It is unfortunate but you can't define natural acts as evil as it isn't done deliberately unlike human acts ~Mia" ok change the title to the problem of suffering and ask the Same question. | |||
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""Evil" is simply a term that was created by humans and is subjective to each person. It is been proven that each and every human being has the ability to be "evil" or commit acts that would be seen as "evil" What is "evil" to some may be justifiable to others. Personally I think some things happen and as horrible as it is there's no stopping humans from committing such acts no matter what things you remove. Unless you remove the human race that is... ~Mia exclude human acts. Now let's talk about mass destruction of children by volcanoes or earthquakes or disease or famine. I don't think you can class acts of nature as something that can be defined as evil. It's just something that happens. It is unfortunate but you can't define natural acts as evil as it isn't done deliberately unlike human acts ~Mia ok change the title to the problem of suffering and ask the Same question. " Again suffering is subjective. What one human views as "suffering" another may view as normal. Suffering happens to every species and they adapt and evolve around said problem. And suffering must continue to exist so that evolution and intelligence is still able to continue and to grow and change. ~Mia | |||
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"What would you change about the world if you could ? If you believe in a god why hasn't that god changed it. I'd make the world realise what a lazy stance the "if there's a god why does he let bad things happen?" argument is. No one likes to take responsibility. ..We blame everyone else because....of course they are responsible but never me..... So god why did YOU let it happen if you exist? There must be no god because he/she (gender neutral) has let evil happen as of course they are responsible and not me or us. Argument :- there is no god because I can't take any responsibility for the shit that happens here. " | |||
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"I would take hatred jelaousy and anger away. " How does one know love peace contentment with out experience and knowledge of the opposite? I once asked someone from Romania many many years ago to describe freedom. They said they did not know as everything was done for them... choice had been removed. They really struggled to live and fit here because they couldn't comprehend that they had a choice on everything and they hadn't learnt to make choices and learn from those choices. It's a nice idea to remove those things...but ultimately it only works by showing the better option, hoping we have shown them so convincingly that they then hopefully choose appropriately. | |||
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