FabSwingers.com forum: Run, Hide, Tell

By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

When I saw the met had issued this last night my heart sank.

There's a few threads about what happened, let's keep them there.

As a parent of 3 young people (11, 13 & 15) what I'm thinking is I need to talk to my children about the Run, Hide, Tell thing so they know what to do to possibly save their life's should they find themselves caught up in an attack. It's difficult, I don't want to frighten them but it's happening more frequently.

So all you fab parents out there. Are you/have you had similar chat?

Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's on my mind a lot. I've put something similar on fbook but no ones on there!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is difficult.

I don't have kids but if I did, I'd naturally tell them to keep calm, but I'd also want to tell them to run, which would be anything but calm.

I'd also want them to alert people, but that would cause even more hysteria and that wouldn't be "safe" for them.

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By *ewrocksWoman
over a year ago

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My offspring is only 5, and we live in a rural town, so I've not discussed the recent events with her, but in more general terms we've talked about emergencys, getting separated, etc, and her backpack has contact details inside for me, her dad, my mum and sister.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Its not an easy conversation especially given the availability of social media most youngsters have access to but similarly with such talks like having an escape plan in the event of a fire in the home its something that needs to be done in the present times..

OP you know your own so go with that..

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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

They have seen the news this morning. 2/3 of them use social media. My 11 year old told me how many people were injured before I'd heard for myself.

We rarely venture into the city. I know one of my friends has had a chat with her (slightly older) children. I think I will to.

Just to be more aware of their surroundings and to stay close to us/their friends if something kicked off.

Just horrible. I really feel for our young people.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

The current Government video regarding Run Hide Tell is quite disturbing for the young so I think Schools should perhaps come up with some way of getting this message across without causing too much alarm.

A bit like the US and the preparedness they do around School shootings.

It's all very sad that we should even be thinking about this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got ten grankids ageing from 8 to 20 ( 3 eldest are my step grankids )and I have had the talk with them as one of my gran daughters was afraid when she saw armed guards at our local shopping centre

I felt it was only right that they should know that they are bad people out there

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They have seen the news this morning. 2/3 of them use social media. My 11 year old told me how many people were injured before I'd heard for myself.

We rarely venture into the city. I know one of my friends has had a chat with her (slightly older) children. I think I will to.

Just to be more aware of their surroundings and to stay close to us/their friends if something kicked off.

Just horrible. I really feel for our young people. "

Good advise, a conversation about terrorism is something we were fortunate not to have to have with our own although we are both ex services and try and keep an eye out..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Also, for everyone, if you dial 999 but it's not safe to speak/it could put you or others in danger, dial 55 once the call has connected. Keep the line open.

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"When I saw the met had issued this last night my heart sank.

There's a few threads about what happened, let's keep them there.

So all you fab parents out there. Are you/have you had similar chat?

Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's on my mind a lot. I've put something similar on fbook but no ones on there!!!

isn't the chat no different really than the don't talk to strangers or get in a car with a adult even one you know chat.

I mean I ran riot in the 70s and early 80s as a kid going fishing with my friends running riot over hackney mashes all with no adult insight ,

I knew the dangers of the world and what to do to try and keep myself safe isn't the chat just going in empower your children with the knowledge of how to look out for themselves and those with them ..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We live in a rural area but I've gone through 'run/hide/tell' with my youngest two. I tried not to worry them, but it's important they know what to do. I also told them to look for the helpers if they're ever caught up in any kind if incident

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Also, for everyone, if you dial 999 but it's not safe to speak/it could put you or others in danger, dial 55 once the call has connected. Keep the line open.

Thanks Lickety..

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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"When I saw the met had issued this last night my heart sank.

There's a few threads about what happened, let's keep them there.

So all you fab parents out there. Are you/have you had similar chat?

Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's on my mind a lot. I've put something similar on fbook but no ones on there!!!

isn't the chat no different really than the don't talk to strangers or get in a car with a adult even one you know chat.

I mean I ran riot in the 70s and early 80s as a kid going fishing with my friends running riot over hackney mashes all with no adult insight ,

I guess so but in today's society things are vastly different. I mean my mum told me not to get in a strangers car even if he had sweets or puppies to show me. But today we have knives and bombs to be aware of to! It's not a conversation I ever imagined having to have with my children but sadly I think I do.

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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"Also, for everyone, if you dial 999 but it's not safe to speak/it could put you or others in danger, dial 55 once the call has connected. Keep the line open.

I never knew that, thanks

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"When I saw the met had issued this last night my heart sank.

There's a few threads about what happened, let's keep them there.

So all you fab parents out there. Are you/have you had similar chat?

Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's on my mind a lot. I've put something similar on fbook but no ones on there!!!

isn't the chat no different really than the don't talk to strangers or get in a car with a adult even one you know chat.

I mean I ran riot in the 70s and early 80s as a kid going fishing with my friends running riot over hackney mashes all with no adult insight ,

not really _ady lick in my opinion .

I have a knife wound from the early 80s and bicycle chain makes across my back .

as a kid the ira were bombing London nothing has really changed in my opinion about from social media reporting and 24 hour news

heck some one pointed a real gun at me when I was 17 I guess its about where you grow up as to what you see in the way of such things .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's bloody horrible. My kid is 7 so wouldn't be anywhere on her own but we're supposed to go to see littlemix in Cardiff in October but I ain't taking her now, I know we aren't supposed to stop living our lives and more people die in car accidents and things but as a parent you limit the risks to your children as much as possible.

Going into cities to crowded events when we don't really need to is something I can do to limit any risks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My boys are 7 and I've managed to avoid having any news on for the time being. I want to protect them but equally I don't want them to live their lives in fear.

They know about some of the things that have happened and I've explained it to them in the loosest of terms. They are desperate to go to London for a day trip but that will be hold for a while longer.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then.

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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Handson....it has loads to do with where you grew up. I grew up in sleepy Suffolk so the only exposure I had to the IRA etc was what little I saw on the tv and in newspapers. I wasn't allowed to go to London with my big sister, I was so cross about that but I understand why now!

So for me the world is massively different for my kids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I saw the met had issued this last night my heart sank.

There's a few threads about what happened, let's keep them there.

So all you fab parents out there. Are you/have you had similar chat?

Sorry for the doom and gloom but it's on my mind a lot. I've put something similar on fbook but no ones on there!!!

I too, have kids.. ( 13,11,9 and 6), so I worry about how much exposure should be given to them. The older two regularly attend concerts and festivals with their dad or myself, so I would like to think they are relatively savy to staying alert and safe!would I question every booking I made, possibly more now, but we all as a country need to carry on as Much as normal I guess?! My 6 year old- I would prefer to keep his innocence as long as possible to this cruel world. I grew up in a military town in the 80's, with the local barracks over the road from the school. We were regularly evacuated and taught to use those 3 words.

It's a sad sick situation and clearly it's not going to be resolved for some time yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then."

No. We teach them to run, as fast and as far as they can. Or hide. No child can defend themselves against a terrorist with a foot-long knife who is not afraid to die

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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

My daughter has just asked where I think will be attacked next and if we're still going to seeing Little Mix in Birmingham.

Ffs she's 11, when I was that age I was still playing mud pies!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's bloody horrible. My kid is 7 so wouldn't be anywhere on her own but we're supposed to go to see littlemix in Cardiff in October but I ain't taking her now, I know we aren't supposed to stop living our lives and more people die in car accidents and things but as a parent you limit the risks to your children as much as possible.

Going into cities to crowded events when we don't really need to is something I can do to limit any risks. "

Feel your anguish

Meant to be taking my 6 y.o daughter to see Bieber in the Principality on 30th June. Having second thoughts now

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then."

Part of the Run part is to clear the way for the Police to do their job.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

If I remember cbbc done a good peice just after the Manchester attack that explained it very simply I will send a link

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then.

No. We teach them to run, as fast and as far as they can. Or hide. No child can defend themselves against a terrorist with a foot-long knife who is not afraid to die

Or even worse, they are wearing suicide vests. Last night's perpetrators were wearing false versions, but how could anyone, let alone a child, know that?

How would a child even when using some form of martial arts, deal with a crazed adult, hell bent on taking out anyone in their path

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Also, for everyone, if you dial 999 but it's not safe to speak/it could put you or others in danger, dial 55 once the call has connected. Keep the line open.

I never knew that, thanks

Just in case there was any doubt about this (which I didn't know about so thanks Lickety

) - found a couple of articles that mention it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/call-999-emergency-services-what-to-do-if-cant-talk-advice-crime-accident-police-ambulance-a7524196.html

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/contact-us/what-happens-when-you-dial-999/silent-999-calls

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By *ady Lick OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"If I remember cbbc done a good peice just after the Manchester attack that explained it very simply I will send a link "

Yes please

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then.

No. We teach them to run, as fast and as far as they can. Or hide. No child can defend themselves against a terrorist with a foot-long knife who is not afraid to die

I wos thinking on the lines of 12 and older but I do see your point.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then.

Part of the Run part is to clear the way for the Police to do their job. "

True good point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My daughter has just asked where I think will be attacked next and if we're still going to seeing Little Mix in Birmingham.

Ffs she's 11, when I was that age I was still playing mud pies!!!!"

It's a horrible world to grow up in. Although as others have said, it's always been like this. Maybe it's just more 'known' because of social media.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then.

Part of the Run part is to clear the way for the Police to do their job. "

Except that Theresa has got rid of too many cops.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

This is good advice...

The terrorists were wearing bomb vests that fortunately turned out to be fake.

I applaud the brave police that confronted these murderous Bastards, I'm sure they feared for their own lives.

Run, definitely run for your own lives, it would be foolish to fight.

The 8 minute response time was amazing so the less people around the incident, the better for the security services to be able to deal with an event...

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By *obwithkiltMan
over a year ago

Belton

Going into cities to crowded events when we don't really need to is something I can do to limit any risks.

Feel your anguish

Meant to be taking my 6 y.o daughter to see Bieber in the Principality on 30th June. Having second thoughts now

Yes it's a worry and concern but not going to a gig or event is playing exactly in your the hands of these individuals... My daughter 21 lives in Manchester and was due to go to the courtenners gig the Saturday after the initial attack, she was concerned and wondered if she should go...Security at all events is now increasing... She went and it was just a longer queue to get in and loads of extra security bodies and she said that everyone was talking to each other, looking after people .. I worked a festival last weekend and I was going through one Gate constantly.. Every time I was checked for correct id and accreditation even after three days.. Spot bag checks were done.. Stage invaders were dealt with so quickly you hardly knew it had happened.

There are risks every time we walk out our front door when we have kids... talk to your children about run, hide & tell...keep them close.. but above all go out, attend events and enjoy.. otherwise they win

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I think it's probably a good idea to talk to children about what to do in an event such as this.

Our son was in a hotel in London last night and although he's in his late twenties we still contacted him to tell him not to go outside.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then."

No martial art is going to protect you from someone with a machine gun or a suicide bomber. This isn't the local bully or a would be mugger that wants to steal your purse. My daughter does kickboxing and Krav Maga and I wouldn't be telling her to stay and fight someone with a machine gun or a suicide bomber, that's terrible advice. The only way martial arts would help you is if the person was close to you with a knife or gun and then maybe if your fear hasn't frozen you to the spot, Krav would help with your ability to get a knife or gun out of someone's hands but no way would I be telling my daughter to try and fight someone.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"Just my pursarnall vue but if I sor sum guy came running up to me with a nife I woodount run I wood stand my ground take him on........

And to all thows Hoo are arfrade for thar kids.

1 thing that MAY help.

Teach them marshal arts

At lest you will no thay got a chance then.

True

Martial arts don't work agents bombs or machine guns. That is just silley.

but thay can work agents nives ect.

And that's wot thay used last nite.

I wos not saying go up agents a bom.

But to be fair I didount say wot to use martial arts agents in my 1st post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive lived in London my whole life.

When there was different terrorist threat in 80s in london, my parents would talk to me regularly on how to stay safe.

This was in times before social media or mobile phones

It was important to let them know where I was going who I was with and when I would be back.

I was taught to make reverse charges calls

How to get home

If something did happen to try and find a policeman or go somewhere where there were lots if adults.

The point i am trying to make is not to scare kids about terror attacks but teach them to street wise and how to act in any situation. My daughters are only 6 but thats what I'll be teaching them.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I hate not letting our young people have independent lives - it's how we learn to take and manage risks... but, don't forget to turn the tracking on on their phones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also, for everyone, if you dial 999 but it's not safe to speak/it could put you or others in danger, dial 55 once the call has connected. Keep the line open.

I never knew that, thanks

me neither -

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