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By *lacksausage OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

I live with a family in a semi detached with no property directly opposite ours across the street. I have a car and so does my host( so 2 cars in "our" house).

The adjoining house to our left( also a semi detached) also has no property directly opposite across the street.

We park our 2 cars right infront of our house( bumper to bumper) and keep to our side and respect the natural division between the two semi detached houses.

Now the other houses further up the street do have neighbours across the street so do not have the luxury of parking space that our 2 semi detached house have. As a result when they all park up, my immediate neighbour is shunted closer to our two cars and he ( and sometimes the wife) has to perform an expert parallel parking. This he finds difficult so sometimes abandons it altogether and parks on the lawn( it's a bit of a posh area)

Myself and my host cannot shift any. Further down because the lane narrows immediately after our house and if we did, the whole lane would be blocked altogether. I must also add that we do not have a problem with parallel parking; having lived in some seriously limited localities, we can both park in the tightest of spots you would think a forklift dropped the cars in position.

There are no designated parking bays so you could park pretty much anywhere as long as it is legal and safe to do so. Whenever we've come back and discovered a mess of a parking even too tight for our expert parking skills to fit in, we have had to divert to nearby back streets( no questions asked). Occasionally our immediate neighbour has also has to do same.

Lately, a neighbour has further up the street knocked on our door and asked us to REMOVE our car so he could park. We just stared at him till he got the message and moved on.

Just this morning while I was giving my car a spruce up, my immediate neighbour walked up to me and said," can you park one of your cars somewhere so I can also park?" And I pointed out a free gap ( which he had vacated half an hour earlier), he took a deep breath and said in a cool steely voice, " I'm only asking nicely" which I saw as a passive threat.

I wish to point out that physically, I am not worried about him but a lot can happen aside a physical assault (if you get me). The 2 cars in our house have been keyed in the last 6 months( police report made).

Now you might wonder why I have taken the time to bring this here.

I wish to hear people's comments on the matter; what experiences people can share; any legal dimensions people can highlight, etc.

You may inbox me if you wish to keep it on the quiet.

Thanks for your time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a public highway and you're entitled to park where you like as long as it's legal

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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago

Chester

The only answer I have is an unpleasant one from a friend who had the same issue. Unless a house is sold with off street parking or marked private bays on a private road or estate, nobody is entitled to any parking and it's purely whoever parks first. Some places have resident only parking but even there you are not entitled to the space that's outside your house.

Where possible, practical and affordable. The best answer is to have a drive or front garden parking place with a dropped kerb.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

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By *lacksausage OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do."

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?"

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a pain in the arse. When people scratch others car etc pisses me right off. I've had scratches on my car, wing mirror broken, windows smashed right after I tell someone not to do something or we have a conversation they don't like.

It's one of those things. And the police do nothing about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?"

Its what the police told us to do.

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By *lacksausage OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?

Its what the police told us to do. "
can you please suggest any( in box please)

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?

No"

But who would actually enforce that? The camera would be looking across the front garden onto a public street at his car. Supposedly not allowed (??tbc). But the police often ask if people have cctv footage of incidents adjacent to their properties.

I'd just do it. It will never be queried or asked to be moved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?

No

But who would actually enforce that? The camera would be looking across the front garden onto a public street at his car. Supposedly not allowed (??tbc). But the police often ask if people have cctv footage of incidents adjacent to their properties.

I'd just do it. It will never be queried or asked to be moved."

The police said its the several notices warning of a camera that does the trick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?

No

But who would actually enforce that? The camera would be looking across the front garden onto a public street at his car. Supposedly not allowed (??tbc). But the police often ask if people have cctv footage of incidents adjacent to their properties.

I'd just do it. It will never be queried or asked to be moved."

I used to fit them about 15 years ago and they were not allowed outside your own property then....not even on a public footpath....maybe things have changed since

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Police in general don't get involved in civil disputes ie arguments with neighbours I believe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry can't help just want to add moral support. Camera sounds like a good idea.

Bloody rude of the neighbour asking you to move the car outside your own house!! If I read that right...

Hope you get it sorted. x

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"

But who would actually enforce that? The camera would be looking across the front garden onto a public street at his car. Supposedly not allowed (??tbc). But the police often ask if people have cctv footage of incidents adjacent to their properties.

I'd just do it. It will never be queried or asked to be moved.

I used to fit them about 15 years ago and they were not allowed outside your own property then....not even on a public footpath....maybe things have changed since "

I know it can't be fitted outside of the property. I mean fitted on to the house looking at the road and parking spot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could you put a dummy camera up and put the notices up? It's a deterent.

Of course if anything happens then it'll be annoying that not an actual camera was put up.

I'd pop a real camera up. You see it on nightmare neighbours and they have prosecuted some folk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is best to keep neighbours onside but they have no right to ask you to move your vehicle.

As long as you are a legal driver and your car is road legal, there is nothing they can do and vice versa.

CCTV is a very grey area. My neighbour put one up in a front bedroom window with a small warning sticker.

I have found this an invasion of my privacy as they are watching every coming and going from my property! If I was staying here I would be asking them to remove it.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod
over a year ago

My Own Little World

Basically people can park anywhere on a public road (as long as parking restrictions and permits allow), the only place you can't park is in front of a dropped curb if a car is on the property and you parking there will stop the owner driving off.

My neighbour owns the the 2 houses next door but only lives in 1 the other is empty. When a new family with 2 cars moved in opposite they parked in front of the empty house, only to get a not so polite note through their door followed by looks and not so quiet comments when they ignored her. She has also phoned the police on me when a friend stopped in front of her house to pick up her kid from mine, we all stood outside the whole time chatting while my neighbour was talking very loudly to 'the police', we asked her if she would like us to wait for the police to show up.....she slammed the door in our face, and 2 years later I'm still waiting for the police to show, TBH I don't think they will

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

This highlights several problems.

Yes legally nobody is doing anything wrong.

OP isn't doing anything morally wrong either.

The neighbours have spoken to him in an un-neighbourly, grumpy way.

I guess also from their perspective, on those days, you have two parking spots and they have none.

Nobody doing anything wrong, but a difficult one to manage.

(Obviously the car damage not included in that)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Police in general don't get involved in civil disputes ie arguments with neighbours I believe "

They do get involved when vehicles are damaged though.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think the only avenue is to communicate well with the neighbour and to agree a joint campaign of action - and then for you all to follow this 100% of the time. It may involve parking spaced more generously, when you know a space isn't needed etc by both houses.

Ultimately people may have moved to your road based partly on the total number of houses and parking space. As others say, it's openly available public parking space, not prioritised for adjacent houses - as tough as this seems.

The key thing is also to appear reasonable to everyone, so that no further provocation of damage is motivated.

Speak to local police about CCTV siting, if you're thinking damage is likely and perhaps have your neighbour use it too. Work in unison where you can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's coz they don't really get involved in civil disputes

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By *lacksausage OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"I think the only avenue is to communicate well with the neighbour and to agree a joint campaign of action - and then for you all to follow this 100% of the time. It may involve parking spaced more generously, when you know a space isn't needed etc by both houses.

Ultimately people may have moved to your road based partly on the total number of houses and parking space. As others say, it's openly available public parking space, not prioritised for adjacent houses - as tough as this seems.

The key thing is also to appear reasonable to everyone, so that no further provocation of damage is motivated.

Speak to local police about CCTV siting, if you're thinking damage is likely and perhaps have your neighbour use it too. Work in unison where you can "

I agree with all you have said... Live and let live and all of that. But you see, it looks like somebody wants to park/ drive off without taking too many shunts. Meanwhile I park wherever I find the space I can squeeze into. Without belabouring the point, there is an air of having more right to the space than the next person.

But I get your point.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

We have a slightly different problem. We have one car which we park in our drive. The family across from us have three cars and a van which they park all over the street depending who gets home first. I struggle sometimes to manoeuvre into our drive especially when the van is parked on the opposite site of the road.

In a case of karma last year I actually couldn't get into our drive and so just parked across our entrance meaning to go and ask later for them to move the van, half an our later the father backing out of his drive straight into the side of our car.

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By *lacksausage OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

Et voila, neighbour has managed to perform a good parallel park into the gap that was too small a few hrs ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hows the parking this morning ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is the just me that sees this as a daft problem that's easily solved by using the legs you were born with. Park where you can and walk to your house.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its a public road and anyboy can park whereever they want - its just neighbourly etiquette to park outside your own if possible - cameras have to be on your property i think and not angled as to be 'spying' on someone elses property - but - if its angled onto the road to keep an eye on your car then its fine - and the police do prosecute on the strength of cctv footage if its clear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the just me that sees this as a daft problem that's easily solved by using the legs you were born with. Park where you can and walk to your house.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For the love of god do not put cctv up! It will alienate you and the neighbours will certainly talk about the guy that has a camera! Don't do it! Why don't you pay someone to gravel your garden? Tarmac it! Job done!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For the love of god do not put cctv up! It will alienate you and the neighbours will certainly talk about the guy that has a camera! Don't do it! Why don't you pay someone to gravel your garden? Tarmac it! Job done!"

lots of people on our estate have cctv - we have had a lot o problems with youngsters on bikes at daft o clock - trying car doors and the like - 2 have been caught - no one minds quite the opposite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the just me that sees this as a daft problem that's easily solved by using the legs you were born with. Park where you can and walk to your house.

"

The trouble is that many people think they own the bit of road outside their house and get stroppy with people that park there. Some even damage cars parked there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For the love of god do not put cctv up! It will alienate you and the neighbours will certainly talk about the guy that has a camera! Don't do it! Why don't you pay someone to gravel your garden? Tarmac it! Job done!"

We have a cam. Its great.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"For the love of god do not put cctv up! It will alienate you and the neighbours will certainly talk about the guy that has a camera! Don't do it! Why don't you pay someone to gravel your garden? Tarmac it! Job done!"

Tarmac the drive or garden is one option but you will have to get the council to put a dropped kerb in to make it an official driveway.

Driving up and over the existing kerb means that anyone can still park in front of your garden legally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For the love of god do not put cctv up! It will alienate you and the neighbours will certainly talk about the guy that has a camera! Don't do it! Why don't you pay someone to gravel your garden? Tarmac it! Job done!"

Not much point in Tarmacing my garden cus its not big enough to get even one car on it let alone the tipper truck and 2 other cars !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the just me that sees this as a daft problem that's easily solved by using the legs you were born with. Park where you can and walk to your house.

"
i struggle with this. I Have a disabled daughter. Kerbs are a real issue. My road has plenty of parking in the other side of the road but my next door neighbour always if he gets home parks outside mine.. ive tried talking to him.. ive tried asking if he just parks 1ft further I can get my car in... but no... so now we have two cars I play musical cars... and swap them over.

I have applied for a disabled parking space but its not been approved as yet.

Problem is now many homes are a two car household and I can see parking wars getting worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the just me that sees this as a daft problem that's easily solved by using the legs you were born with. Park where you can and walk to your house.

i struggle with this. I Have a disabled daughter. Kerbs are a real issue. My road has plenty of parking in the other side of the road but my next door neighbour always if he gets home parks outside mine.. ive tried talking to him.. ive tried asking if he just parks 1ft further I can get my car in... but no... so now we have two cars I play musical cars... and swap them over.

I have applied for a disabled parking space but its not been approved as yet.

Problem is now many homes are a two car household and I can see parking wars getting worse"

Your neighbour is very selfish parking as he does. Sadly theres nothing can be done if hes parking legally ! Hopefully you will soon get a disabled parking spot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had 3 operations in recent years due to damaged limbs. So i have had limited mobility and lots of pain. Parking is terrible where we live. One day when i was struggling a lot my hubby brought his car round nearer our house and parked at the end of legal parking just for me to get in the car without walking very far. The guy who lived closest to that spot drove out yelling dreadful abuse at us for ages even though i was in a wheelchair ! Nasty man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have similar issues with a prat over from me. I have rented a garage and park my car in there. However the guy and his partner have four vehicles and no designated parking. An old jag which ive seen move once. A Luton van (long wheelbase) a battered old corsa (hers) He has just acquired a trasit van two weeks ago which he has been trying to fix with no success. On top of this his dad i assume often leaves his van (long wheelbase transit) doesn't affect my parking but just shows a total lack of respect for everyone else

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Parking on streets is becoming a problem as there are more and more two/three car families, it can lead to very petty arguements.

We had another neighbour with two cars further down the street, the neighbour's mother used to look after the kids after school until one of the parents came home. She used to park outside our house stopping me putting our car away. When I asked her why she was parking there she said it was so that her daughter could park outside her house when she got home. I pointed out it was inconsiderate and I had no problems with her parking outside the house just not over the entrance, she just shrugged and said she could park where she wanted! The simple solution was whenever she parked outside our house and stopped me putting the car in the drive I parked in her daughter's spot. It took a couple of weeks but she got the message

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If its legal to park there then park where you want. If you are worried about damage to your cars then get a security cam/webcam and make sure you put several notes so that anyone thinking of damaging your car will see the note.

We have similar problems and thats what the police told us to do.

The camera thing: is it allowed if it points in the general direction of another house or car?

No"

You can point a camera to any public place or anywhere within your own property. If there happens to be a car or people in that public space then it is still fine. You can't point it another house tho or other private area that isn't owned by you.

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By *lacksausage OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"For the love of god do not put cctv up! It will alienate you and the neighbours will certainly talk about the guy that has a camera! Don't do it! Why don't you pay someone to gravel your garden? Tarmac it! Job done!

lots of people on our estate have cctv - we have had a lot o problems with youngsters on bikes at daft o clock - trying car doors and the like - 2 have been caught - no one minds quite the opposite "

These youngsters have parents, I presume? Anyway, another problem for another day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have similar issues with a prat over from me. I have rented a garage and park my car in there. However the guy and his partner have four vehicles and no designated parking. An old jag which ive seen move once. A Luton van (long wheelbase) a battered old corsa (hers) He has just acquired a trasit van two weeks ago which he has been trying to fix with no success. On top of this his dad i assume often leaves his van (long wheelbase transit) doesn't affect my parking but just shows a total lack of respect for everyone else"

So should people be limited to how many vehicles they have ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have similar issues with a prat over from me. I have rented a garage and park my car in there. However the guy and his partner have four vehicles and no designated parking. An old jag which ive seen move once. A Luton van (long wheelbase) a battered old corsa (hers) He has just acquired a trasit van two weeks ago which he has been trying to fix with no success. On top of this his dad i assume often leaves his van (long wheelbase transit) doesn't affect my parking but just shows a total lack of respect for everyone else

So should people be limited to how many vehicles they have ?"
yes they probably should if they are taking up space on the road with what is effectively scrap metal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have similar issues with a prat over from me. I have rented a garage and park my car in there. However the guy and his partner have four vehicles and no designated parking. An old jag which ive seen move once. A Luton van (long wheelbase) a battered old corsa (hers) He has just acquired a trasit van two weeks ago which he has been trying to fix with no success. On top of this his dad i assume often leaves his van (long wheelbase transit) doesn't affect my parking but just shows a total lack of respect for everyone else

So should people be limited to how many vehicles they have ? yes they probably should if they are taking up space on the road with what is effectively scrap metal"

I hope not otherwise our 3 cars and tipper truck might have to go, making several people unemployed !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I live with a family in a semi detached with no property directly opposite ours across the street. I have a car and so does my host( so 2 cars in "our" house).

The adjoining house to our left( also a semi detached) also has no property directly opposite across the street.

We park our 2 cars right infront of our house( bumper to bumper) and keep to our side and respect the natural division between the two semi detached houses.

Now the other houses further up the street do have neighbours across the street so do not have the luxury of parking space that our 2 semi detached house have. As a result when they all park up, my immediate neighbour is shunted closer to our two cars and he ( and sometimes the wife) has to perform an expert parallel parking. This he finds difficult so sometimes abandons it altogether and parks on the lawn( it's a bit of a posh area)

Myself and my host cannot shift any. Further down because the lane narrows immediately after our house and if we did, the whole lane would be blocked altogether. I must also add that we do not have a problem with parallel parking; having lived in some seriously limited localities, we can both park in the tightest of spots you would think a forklift dropped the cars in position.

There are no designated parking bays so you could park pretty much anywhere as long as it is legal and safe to do so. Whenever we've come back and discovered a mess of a parking even too tight for our expert parking skills to fit in, we have had to divert to nearby back streets( no questions asked). Occasionally our immediate neighbour has also has to do same.

Lately, a neighbour has further up the street knocked on our door and asked us to REMOVE our car so he could park. We just stared at him till he got the message and moved on.

Just this morning while I was giving my car a spruce up, my immediate neighbour walked up to me and said," can you park one of your cars somewhere so I can also park?" And I pointed out a free gap ( which he had vacated half an hour earlier), he took a deep breath and said in a cool steely voice, " I'm only asking nicely" which I saw as a passive threat.

I wish to point out that physically, I am not worried about him but a lot can happen aside a physical assault (if you get me). The 2 cars in our house have been keyed in the last 6 months( police report made).

Now you might wonder why I have taken the time to bring this here.

I wish to hear people's comments on the matter; what experiences people can share; any legal dimensions people can highlight, etc.

You may inbox me if you wish to keep it on the quiet.

Thanks for your time."

It's on street parking without designated bays, people have to park where they find a space. You don't get to reserve the space in front of your house.

When I lived in Yarmouth I had a residents permit and ended up parking streets away sometimes. That's life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have similar issues with a prat over from me. I have rented a garage and park my car in there. However the guy and his partner have four vehicles and no designated parking. An old jag which ive seen move once. A Luton van (long wheelbase) a battered old corsa (hers) He has just acquired a trasit van two weeks ago which he has been trying to fix with no success. On top of this his dad i assume often leaves his van (long wheelbase transit) doesn't affect my parking but just shows a total lack of respect for everyone else

So should people be limited to how many vehicles they have ? yes they probably should if they are taking up space on the road with what is effectively scrap metal

I hope not otherwise our 3 cars and tipper truck might have to go, making several people unemployed !"

Sounds more like you're using a public road to run a business / store business was vehicles which I'm sure isn't legal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have similar issues with a prat over from me. I have rented a garage and park my car in there. However the guy and his partner have four vehicles and no designated parking. An old jag which ive seen move once. A Luton van (long wheelbase) a battered old corsa (hers) He has just acquired a trasit van two weeks ago which he has been trying to fix with no success. On top of this his dad i assume often leaves his van (long wheelbase transit) doesn't affect my parking but just shows a total lack of respect for everyone else

So should people be limited to how many vehicles they have ? yes they probably should if they are taking up space on the road with what is effectively scrap metal

I hope not otherwise our 3 cars and tipper truck might have to go, making several people unemployed !

Sounds more like you're using a public road to run a business / store business was vehicles which I'm sure isn't legal. "

Its all legal. Plus only one vehicle is connected with a business and its only used to get to and from jobs by one person. The other cars are used by their owners to get to and from their jobs.

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By *lacksausage OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

I don't know what the law says on the issue but I think more than 2 cars in a house is not "normal" especially IF parking on the street is tight.

That said, if you had your own drive and could squeeze one or two vehicles on there, then the one or two on the actual road should be fine but then also this is what I think: the practice of parking in such a way that your neighbour has to loathe or like it is very annoying and irresponsible.

If your parking skills are not up to scratch, eat humble pie and approach your neighbour and discuss your difficulties while owning up to your inadequacies. Most neighbours will be reasonable and make certain adjustments.

The problem is when some people try to abuse the free country- free parking rule and park like complete idiots without a care in the world.

Nothing is more annoying than parking and leaving a gap infront or behind which no one can use. Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

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"I don't know what the law says on the issue but I think more than 2 cars in a house is not "normal" especially IF parking on the street is tight.

That said, if you had your own drive and could squeeze one or two vehicles on there, then the one or two on the actual road should be fine but then also this is what I think: the practice of parking in such a way that your neighbour has to loathe or like it is very annoying and irresponsible.

If your parking skills are not up to scratch, eat humble pie and approach your neighbour and discuss your difficulties while owning up to your inadequacies. Most neighbours will be reasonable and make certain adjustments.

The problem is when some people try to abuse the free country- free parking rule and park like complete idiots without a care in the world.

Nothing is more annoying than parking and leaving a gap infront or behind which no one can use. Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!"

I rarely park near my house or even on the same road. The other people in the household park closer to home than me generally because of the time i finish work. Some neighbours park on the pavement which is annoying and dangerous because it means its hard to pull out of neighbouring roads due to them blocking vision. Further along this road the parking is even more limited.

We had 5 adults living here for several years and all had vehicles. You just make the best of what you have.

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