FabSwingers.com forum: Has the thought of terror made you change what you do?

By *lue Narwhal OP Man
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

In light of the most recent atrocity in Manchester and the previous attacks in London, have these events made you change your plans?

I was disturbed yesterday to hear on the news that the ticket resale websites had had their busiest day ever of people trying to sell their gig tickets..

Now I know it's just a knee jerk reaction to what was a sickening act of violence against innocence, but I don't recall any previous terrorist attack having quite as much impact..

What disturbed me was that it feels like this last attack was the final straw and that we, the British public are now terrified of an attack and are letting those with intent to do us harm, win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No....and it never will

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

No the aim of terrorism is to scare you out of normal life beat them by living without fear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in a word; no, life must go on and it will.

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By *enfold75Man
over a year ago

hemel hempstead

No life goes on and we must show that we are not scared.

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By *ustanormalguy 71Man
over a year ago

Watford /Hertfordshire

This country will never give in to the scummy terrorists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had the exact same chat at work today. See were talking about going to the military tattoo her in August and some peoplecsaid they wouldn't go anywhere with crowds.

Some of us tried to talk them round saying you could get run over any time but you don't fear crossing the road. We said about the terrorists want us scared but they just said theyd rather ne scared and alive.

It really is a sad fact that these events affect us how they do but they also show the brilliance of human spirit and how we stand up for one another when needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've just finish nailing the wood over the windows and stocking the larder with tins!

Apart from that no not really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nah, still doing what i was gonna do

if there was a 100% guarantee there would be an attack somewhere in the country then i'd still go out. the chances of getting caught up in something like that are pretty infinitesimal, lower than being run over or drowning i would think and i still cross roads and go near water so i'll treat it for what it is. extremely unlikely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It makes me more aware of what's going on around us. I people watch more and generally take notice of others around my family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think maybe people who had planned on going to gigs with their children would be more than likely to change. And to honest who could blame them. But for me I want to carry on my normal life. I have plans to go to a few events this year and won't change that. We can't them these people win!

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By *iforfun999Man
over a year ago

Haverfordwest

"I've just finish nailing the wood over the windows and stocking the larder with tins!

Apart from that no not really"

Don't forget the tin foil to make protective hats from any radiation fallout or alien brainwave drain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes me more aware of what's going on around us. I people watch more and generally take notice of others around my family. "

This for me too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just finish nailing the wood over the windows and stocking the larder with tins!

Apart from that no not really

Don't forget the tin foil to make protective hats from any radiation fallout or alien brainwave drain.

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Oh yes I almost forgot the tin foil!!

This is what makes me laugh about the shit you see on Facebook and here about.. Life must go on!

Err what's the alternative, oh yeah great no I'll pick life going on then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. I haven't.

I was in NYC during 9/11. I remember being afraid to get on the subway - afraid of an attack and afraid of the US troops stationed all over. My father told me I couldn't live my life in fear. That if I change myself because I'm afraid then they have succeeded in what they were trying to do.

Ever since then I've felt the same way whenever a terrorist attack occurs. I'm not afraid anymore and I refuse to alter my life in deference to their actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nah, still doing what i was gonna do

Good point.

Lots of crowded places in the country. Very unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. That made me feel a bit better, thanks.

I do worry. Can't stay indoors forever though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We go to many big sporting and music events around the U.K. and i do worry a bit and im only going to them now because we already have the tickets and hotels booked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did stop myself getting into a lift earlier in a high rise block of flats as there was a discarded microwave in there. I had a fleeting thought of what if..... and decided to use the stairs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just be vigilant.

Not sure? Listen to your inner voice.

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By *lue Narwhal OP Man
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"It makes me more aware of what's going on around us. I people watch more and generally take notice of others around my family.

This for me too.

Be alert..

Your country needs lerts..

Great old saying, however it does stand true.

The trouble is that a lot of people feel embarrassed to report something that makes them suspicious..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm still the same, though may only alter Manchester visits this week if places are disrupted. Otherwise life is normal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know someone that hasn't been to London since 7/7...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No,i work in manchester and i often go down for a curry in the northern quarter,but im going arndale for one tomorrow 1.30ish if anybody wants a curry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No,i work in manchester and i often go down for a curry in the northern quarter,but im going arndale for one tomorrow 1.30ish if anybody wants a curry

Or some cyptiot food from the market mmmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No,i work in manchester and i often go down for a curry in the northern quarter,but im going arndale for one tomorrow 1.30ish if anybody wants a curry

Or some cyptiot food from the market mmmmmmm"

Or some vietnamese food?

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By *lue Narwhal OP Man
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

So is no one feeling just a little paranoid?

I remember after 7/7 every time people saw someone with a ruck sack on the tube, all eyes would follow them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being honest I worry far more how a terrorist attack local to me would impact me work wise than I worry about the liklihood of been caught up in am attack. It's not worth worrting about in the sane way I don't worry about being involved in a train crash, or a car crash or being murdered, you can't outthink the grim reaper I this way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No because then the terrorist would have won

We live in a sociaty where there will always be some thread to our safety but we just have to get on with our lives

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By *s_macWoman
over a year ago

Traffic land

Only in as much as it's made me think of managing my kids when we are out and about. For example, I'd let my son (12) nip off to the toilet, say if we were in a shopping centre and then find his way back to his sister and I, whereas now I think I'd need the three of us to stay together. Possibly a knee jerk reaction, but I hated the thought of kids being separated from their parents and being frightened and it made me think of my kids in that instance (I'm a chronic over thinker

). However, it won't stop us going anywhere and doing touristy stuff next week when they are on half term.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No but then I don't have people dependent on me. If I did then I suspect the answer would be different x

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

No. Wrong place wrong time will get you if its going to but the risks are tiny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This country kept calm and carried on in the face of terrorist threats by the IRA for 30 years.

We will endure and we will prevail.

And we should not give in, nor find ourselves on bended knee in the face of cowardice and evil.

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

No i leave that to the government to faze in, need more surveillance and youtube censorship....phew i feel safe now...

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

No. I grew up watching the Vietnam war and the IRA atrocities. I lived in NI in the early '80's.

I was in the army for six years, have lived in London and now live in a city centre. It can happen anywhere, at any time so pointless changing what I do.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

No. Why would I change my plans ?

I don't refuse to travel by coach each time I hear that one crashed killing over 100 people.

I don't refuse to fly because someone else's plane went down with similar life losses.

There are many other examples.

It's the media and others that enjoy drama that hype it up.

Use your energies in other ways. A day of hiding in case you are blown up is a day wasted. The odds of it NOT happening are astronomically high.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This may seem harsh, but recent events make it apparent that some people are quite naive and sheltered. Shit like this has always happened and always will.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Nope

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

"This may seem harsh, but recent events make it apparent that some people are quite naive and sheltered. Shit like this has always happened and always will. "

Yup. I'm shocked at the public reaction.

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By *uddlybear2015Man
over a year ago

BEDFORD

No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This may seem harsh, but recent events make it apparent that some people are quite naive and sheltered. Shit like this has always happened and always will. "

This is the first attack of this scale since social media became a key part in many people's lives. It spreads fear amd hysteria amongst the gullible far better than any terrorist or even normal media

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This country kept calm and carried on in the face of terrorist threats by the IRA for 30 years.

We will endure and we will prevail.

And we should not give in, nor find ourselves on bended knee in the face of cowardice and evil.

Do you think its giving in if people do alter their lives because they are worried about it then ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No. Why would I change my plans ?

I don't refuse to travel by coach each time I hear that one crashed killing over 100 people.

I don't refuse to fly because someone else's plane went down with similar life losses.

There are many other examples.

It's the media and others that enjoy drama that hype it up.

Use your energies in other ways. A day of hiding in case you are blown up is a day wasted. The odds of it NOT happening are astronomically high.

I dont think its a day wasted if i makd sure im more aware of whats happening around me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In light of the most recent atrocity in Manchester and the previous attacks in London, have these events made you change your plans?

I was disturbed yesterday to hear on the news that the ticket resale websites had had their busiest day ever of people trying to sell their gig tickets..

Now I know it's just a knee jerk reaction to what was a sickening act of violence against innocence, but I don't recall any previous terrorist attack having quite as much impact..

What disturbed me was that it feels like this last attack was the final straw and that we, the British public are now terrified of an attack and are letting those with intent to do us harm, win. "
no it hasn't you can't live for them nutcases that young boy has been conditioned to do that all his life its an illness not a religion ,although I feel extremely upset for those who have lost love ones and who have people who were injured ,I have not followed the story and dont intend to its another of life's tragedies I live for the positives ,we can't stop individuals or groups of individuals who do this it will carry on until the end of time .I will not change anything I do to suit them

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I said ' a day in hiding is a day wasted' ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I said ' a day in hiding is a day wasted' ......

I dont think it is. I think some people are very anxious about terror attacks and if they spend a day keeping away from places and situations they fear then its not wasted at all. It could help them calm themselves and think it through.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I said ' a day in hiding is a day wasted' ......

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I agree

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By *lue Narwhal OP Man
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"This may seem harsh, but recent events make it apparent that some people are quite naive and sheltered. Shit like this has always happened and always will.

Yup. I'm shocked at the public reaction."

We have become desensitised to such violence.. the 6o'clock news always shows images of war torn countries and distressed parents carrying dead family members following a bombing or other attack..

However, this was on our doorstep and now we are sitting up and paying notice..

I do find that a sad state of affairs that we don't consider the human tragedy that unfolds in front of us on out 42" screen, yet if it happens on our own little island everyone is up in arms.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not detracting from what happened in Manchester, but perhaps us brits need to pay as much heed to the atrocities that take place overseas and feel outrage for the innocents in those places.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

"This country kept calm and carried on in the face of terrorist threats by the IRA for 30 years.

We will endure and we will prevail.

And we should not give in, nor find ourselves on bended knee in the face of cowardice and evil.

well said!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People live their lives so differently in modern times.

Posting a picture on FB or a sentiment is sufficient to brush aside any horror.

As for being affected? Sure the usual crowd will claim they're standing up to anything and anyone but I'm guessing many folk will wonder about crowded events and venues. They'll still go but a sense of cation will always be evident.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If i was frightened by the terror attack and i felt anxious about going to busy crowded places and instead i spent the day in my lovely garden far away from the stress of a city then thats not a day wasted. Thats a day spent calming myself and keeping my family happy.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

" People live their lives so differently in modern times.

Posting a picture on FB or a sentiment is sufficient to brush aside any horror.

I'm pretty certain that hubby, myself and the other 8000 people watching Iron Maiden last night in Cardiff really didn't give two fucks about a sense of caution!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I went to London the weekend after the attack at Westminster. We can't be 100% safe wherever we are. I saw armed police when I went out last night and I've never seen them in a town near me before. It did make me look twice but i guess it's the way it has to be at the moment.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"nah, still doing what i was gonna do

This. Exactly.

You are hundreds of times more likely to die or get injured on the roads.

If you change your life, the terrorists win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" People live their lives so differently in modern times.

Posting a picture on FB or a sentiment is sufficient to brush aside any horror.

I'm pretty certain that hubby, myself and the other 8000 people watching Iron Maiden last night in Cardiff really didn't give two fucks about a sense of caution!"

Good for you.

But the mere fact people are talking about it so much,shows such acts have an effect.

Acts of terrorism are rare but they do affect the public. Schools discuss it with pupils, we hold services, and security is increased.

Blindly assuming nothing will happen with current activity may make you feel better, but being cautious is wise.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

If the security services never see it coming, neither will we, so why worry?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" People live their lives so differently in modern times.

Posting a picture on FB or a sentiment is sufficient to brush aside any horror.

I'm pretty certain that hubby, myself and the other 8000 people watching Iron Maiden last night in Cardiff really didn't give two fucks about a sense of caution!

Good for you.

But the mere fact people are talking about it so much,shows such acts have an effect.

Acts of terrorism are rare but they do affect the public. Schools discuss it with pupils, we hold services, and security is increased.

Blindly assuming nothing will happen with current activity may make you feel better, but being cautious is wise."

I agree

I also worry about the many people who have been cautious about crowded places recently and then also read others comments saying negative things about their behaviour.

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Never fuck them.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

No. It didn't in the 70s and 80s when it was IRA bombs or after 7/7 or when I was attacked as a teenager for not being white or attacked at work by someone with mental health issues.

I was in Manchester on Monday night and the next morning I went out and about. As with all such attacks, if you didn't go near the cordoned area you wouldn't know anything had happened. Except for the faith groups love bombing people and the flowers being handed out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No chance, those bastards will never win,

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"This may seem harsh, but recent events make it apparent that some people are quite naive and sheltered. Shit like this has always happened and always will.

Yup. I'm shocked at the public reaction.

We have become desensitised to such violence.. the 6o'clock news always shows images of war torn countries and distressed parents carrying dead family members following a bombing or other attack..

However, this was on our doorstep and now we are sitting up and paying notice..

I do find that a sad state of affairs that we don't consider the human tragedy that unfolds in front of us on out 42" screen, yet if it happens on our own little island everyone is up in arms.

Some of us do. Stating it on here doesn't always go down well, though.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I would say the day after 7/7 I was back on the tube

We should never give in to these bastards

I will be a bit more vigilant, and try and get to places early especially for security checks

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I haven't changed any of my plans and I wouldn't either.

My daughter has asked if we're still going to see Little Mix (

) in November, we will but I'll be extra vigilant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No the aim of terrorism is to scare you out of normal life beat them by living without fear"

Yes Kola!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?"

More vigilant could mean making sure you know where emergency exits are in unfamiliar places; I've done a lot of fire safety training so looking for fire exit routes is second nature.

For me the enhanced risk has simply made me update my first aid kit and to carry it more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, I still fly, even though airliners get hijaked or bombed. I still use public transport (rarely) even though it's been targeted. I still go on holiday to places that have been attacked before. I still go to concerts and shopping malls.

Fuck terrorism, fuck the perpetrators, they'll never stop me from doing whatever I like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no but i do have thoughts about what if whilst im whereever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?"

I can only comment for me but to me it means having a high level of 'situational awareness'. It's something I've dine since a young age, it comes quite naturally. Not always a good thing as I'm prone to anxiety.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no but i do have thoughts about what if whilst im whereever "

Same here, I have the 'what if it happens' thought and what I'd feel if it did. My next thought is often 'there's nothing I could have done to prevent it apart from staying at home, bunkered in'. Which is exactly what these scumbags want us to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Next week I should be going to see Take that with family, And I am worried if I tell the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won't change my behaviour .....

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?"

Most people wander around with little awareness of their surroundings.

From life experience ( and training, having lived in many " dodgy" countries); awareness is;

1. Taking notice of who is around you. I tend to glance all around me every so often ( defence against mugging/ pickpockets anyway; they can easily spot people who are not taking notice if their surroundings)

2. Notice people carrying bags/ rucksacks.

3. Wherever you are in public places; knowing where emergency exits are; routes to open spaces.

4. In cafes, restaurants etc, I always try to sit so I can see the entrance/exits.

5. In streets, try to avoid being in the centre of crowds; walk in the less crowded parts of the street.

6. Know where you are all the time ( street name etc); then if something happens; you can tell emergency services exactly where you are.

This is not only anti terrorism measures; it is defence against muggers etc too.

If you do this all the time; it becomes second nature, and you feel (and are) secure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?"
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I have no idea but then I have no idea about "we can't let them win" means either!

Win what, is there a prize, wheres the goal, who's side am I on, who's the referee?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friend and I have already said we do t want to take our daughters to see little mix in October @ the motorpoint arena in Cardiff.

After what happened the other day when I was in Swansea and there was a hoax bombs are and we were evacuated, I don't want to go to any of the cities now. Was supposed to have a kids party in lazerzone Cardiff on the 3rd of June but the mother has cancelled it and changed the venue as its right by the millennium stadium and is the day of the champions league final so will be, I assume, armed soldiers around. Too confusing and scary for a bunch of 7 and 8 year olds to see all these people with machine guns walking round.

I'm staying in my local village and towns.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It has changed what I'm going to do, it's actually made me more determined to do the sort of things these scumbags don't want us doing!

I went to a gig in Cardiff on Weds night, and the atmosphere was amazing, especially when the support act and main act mentioned the Manchester attack and how we shouldn't give in to fear, but should express tolerance and peace.... which some may be surprised from a heavy metal gig..

Don't give in to fear, you're actually less likely to die in a terror attack now than you were in the 80's and early 90's, it's just social media, 24 hour news and sensationalist journalism that makes it seem more prevalent.

Trust me, I spent over 10 years checking under my car every time I got in to make sure it hadn't had a car bomb attached.

I'm not letting these fuckers change my life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I went to London the weekend after the attack at Westminster. We can't be 100% safe wherever we are. I saw armed police when I went out last night and I've never seen them in a town near me before. It did make me look twice but i guess it's the way it has to be at the moment. "

In Upton? They were probably lost..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My friend and I have already said we do t want to take our daughters to see little mix in October @ the motorpoint arena in Cardiff.

I'm staying in my local village and towns. "

Was in the motor point on Weds night. Yes there are more police about and I did see a couple of armed coppers wandering about, but it's not obtrusive at all and it's not like there's cordons or checkpoints to intimidate anyone.

You're actually safer going to an event now than you would have been last week.

Don't let these bastards win!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No changes for me, still getting out and about and not worrying about these deluded arseholes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm still off to see the Stone Roses at Wembley next month.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?

Most people wander around with little awareness of their surroundings.

From life experience ( and training, having lived in many " dodgy" countries); awareness is;

2. Notice people carrying bags/ rucksacks.

3. Wherever you are in public places; knowing where emergency exits are; routes to open spaces.

4. In cafes, restaurants etc, I always try to sit so I can see the entrance/exits.

5. In streets, try to avoid being in the centre of crowds; walk in the less crowded parts of the street.

6. Know where you are all the time ( street name etc); then if something happens; you can tell emergency services exactly where you are.

This is not only anti terrorism measures; it is defence against muggers etc too.

If you do this all the time; it becomes second nature, and you feel (and are) secure."

Ahhh you sound like that army guy I dated! He's air platoon now but was Para reg for 12 years.

We were in a busy motorway services and we both went for a pee, I finished first and went out to wait for him but there was a massively stampede of people and I got bustled away, was worrying cos my phone was in his car and more importantly my fags, anyway next thing his hands were on my shoulders, said he spotted me straight away. I remember for those couple of seconds feeling really safe! It sounds cheesy but he just gave off this feeling that if shit went down you'd be safe with him!

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

Nope.

I survived the 80s and 90s living and working in London, E2 to be exact. Close enough to the Baltic Exchange that my entire flat shook when that bomb detonated, I heard the Israeli Embassy bomb in 94 and that was the other side of London. I used public transport, walked the streets, 1 just a couple of minutes before the police came swarming through because of a coded warning and a controlled explosion. I still drank in pubs after the Admiral Duncan pub bombing in Soho.

All you can do is be more vigilant. But in all honesty I have a higher likelihood of being killed by a bus while crossing the road than being injured/killed in a terrorist incident.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?

Most people wander around with little awareness of their surroundings.

From life experience ( and training, having lived in many " dodgy" countries); awareness is;

2. Notice people carrying bags/ rucksacks.

3. Wherever you are in public places; knowing where emergency exits are; routes to open spaces.

4. In cafes, restaurants etc, I always try to sit so I can see the entrance/exits.

5. In streets, try to avoid being in the centre of crowds; walk in the less crowded parts of the street.

6. Know where you are all the time ( street name etc); then if something happens; you can tell emergency services exactly where you are.

This is not only anti terrorism measures; it is defence against muggers etc too.

If you do this all the time; it becomes second nature, and you feel (and are) secure.

Ahhh you sound like that army guy I dated! He's air platoon now but was Para reg for 12 years.

Yes; should have added;

If you are with someone, or in a group; know where they all are. Even do the " if we get slip up, meet at X place". That's common sense anyway.

In a group, in dodgy places, we used to do something called " shark watch ". One person in the group doesn't get pissed, and watches out for the others.

Always keep your phone with you. And make sure it's charged.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, not letting them change any plans I make.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only because others have reacted to it. My plans would not have changed if theirs hadn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. I plan on returning to Netanya or another coastal city in Israel in the near future. Not Tel Aviv though.

It's not so much the dangers that's made decide to go but rather the dangerous denial of the situation by the Europeans public and governments.

It's only going to to get worse. Merkel took in over 1,000,000 immigrants from the Levant and other places. 15-20% of Syria is illerate...that's over 200,000 recent arrivals from a backwards part of the world that can barely count and we expect them to fit in seamlessly???...how are the going to fix this? It's going to be a weekly occurrence within in a decade or two. I've been right about it all so far and it breaks my heart that after four generations here in the country that gave us everything, we are leaving it.

The most iconic thing is that people who actually oppose Islam the most within Israel are the Mizrahim ...the people who actually know what it's like because they lived amongst their barbarism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no, otherwise they win

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no, otherwise they win"
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I'm happy with a score draw

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

No I'm not scared of terrorist attacks. At the end of the day you could get hit by a car tomorrow and die. I'm not going to let the tiny chance of a terrorist attack being in the same location as me change anything I do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes and no, yes I'm scared for my daughters especially as they are 12 and 15 but I'll try not to let it change my life and theirs.

PTU xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes me more aware of what's going on around us. I people watch more and generally take notice of others around my family.

This for me too.

Be alert..

Your country needs lerts..

Great old saying, however it does stand true.

The trouble is that a lot of people feel embarrassed to report something that makes them suspicious..

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there was a discarded bag reported yesterday here in rhyl outside the hospital. It turned out to be full of charity bags. I felt sorry for the pcso who opened the bag. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but when people talk about being more vigilant and more cautious what do they actually mean?

Most people wander around with little awareness of their surroundings.

From life experience ( and training, having lived in many " dodgy" countries); awareness is;

2. Notice people carrying bags/ rucksacks.

3. Wherever you are in public places; knowing where emergency exits are; routes to open spaces.

4. In cafes, restaurants etc, I always try to sit so I can see the entrance/exits.

5. In streets, try to avoid being in the centre of crowds; walk in the less crowded parts of the street.

6. Know where you are all the time ( street name etc); then if something happens; you can tell emergency services exactly where you are.

This is not only anti terrorism measures; it is defence against muggers etc too.

If you do this all the time; it becomes second nature, and you feel (and are) secure."

Yep I was brought up doing that as a child. I thought it was normal and everybody else did it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont understand the coments saying "im not letting them win". No terrorist would know if someone had changed their plans or not !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I told you guys. There has been another attack on Coptic Christians in Egypt. Could be as many as 30 dead.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

Nop....

Dreamland in Margate is having its grand re opening starting tonite with a massave event that goes on to the weekend and then repets it in 2 weeks to. and I'm still going to it.

Y wood I not go ?

In case I get blown up ???

the way I see it is....

(note this is just my personal vue and I don't expect everyone will agree)

1... If people stop doing things cos of so cald terror threts then the terrorests win. !!

Witch I don't plan to let happon.

And 2

I don't fear deth.

If I do get blown up i dout ill fill it and i ant loosing mutch so y live in fear ?

Just enjoy wot you can enjoy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No the aim of terrorism is to scare you out of normal life beat them by living without fear"

Not really. The objective isn't having everyone scared to live their lives. I think it varies from one madman to the next, but there's usually a cause they feel strongly about, a political situation they're unhappy with, or some trumped-up religious justification. I think it's about making a statement, being taken seriously, and being heard.

Terrorists don't do atrocious things because they want imdividuals to 'stop living their lives'!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No the aim of terrorism is to scare you out of normal life beat them by living without fear

Terrorists don't do atrocious things because they want imdividuals to 'stop living their lives'!

Yes they do. Why won't you listen to what they are telling us? There is no salvation by faith in Islam like in Christianity. The one guarantee of salvation is to die in the cause of Allah (Sahib al Bukhari 52:46). That's why so many broken Muslims turn to offensive Jihad: they doubt their sinfulness can be rectified.

You have to read the material. It's politically incorrect to even mention the violent verses so we never get to see it and dangerous opinions form.

Putting a nail and shrapnel bomb in a concert with children or stabbing a 12 year old Jewish girl to death in her bed is not "wanting to be heard" and it is a disgrace to call it such.

This is not our fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, I understand the statistical improbability of me personally being a victim of such an attack.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No the aim of terrorism is to scare you out of normal life beat them by living without fear

Terrorists don't do atrocious things because they want imdividuals to 'stop living their lives'!

I think, generally speaking, you're correct about the aims of terrorism.

However, when it comes to Islamic extremists, especially those aligned with Isis, I think the aim is very much an assault on the western way of life. They are making a statement against western culture in general. That is both our military actions in the middle east as well as our perceived materialism and waste.

Isis hasn't hidden the fact that they are fighting a culture war. They encourage western rhetoric against Islam because it promotes their goal of a culture war. It's why Obama was so careful in how he spoke about religious extremism.

Anyway, as I said, I think you're generally right about the aims that terrorists have. But I don't think it translates to Islamic extremists, and Isis fighters in particular. I think they very much want to scare us into changing how we live our lives so long as we live them according to western values.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I'm a "man born to hang will never drown" type person, so no, I haven't stopped living my life.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Live life to the full, as you never know what's round the corner, whether it be one of those evil scumballs or just being struck by lightning.

Not what they wanted, so tough shit, we are enjoying life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're probably right.

My point was that using the phrase, 'they want us to stop living our lives', is too glib an interpretation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're probably right.

My point was that using the phrase, 'they want us to stop living our lives', is too glib an interpretation."

That is a good point... and understanding the motivation of people before they become radicalised is key to reducing this threat.

Unfortunately too many like to blame immigrants and muslims in general for this, not realising that their hatred and anger is what can drive British born people to extremism

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

No will live my life as normal not going to let them win

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You're probably right.

My point was that using the phrase, 'they want us to stop living our lives', is too glib an interpretation."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trying to rationalise the un rational is a human habit, its why we have religion in the first place!.

Somethings don't have to have a meaning a cause or a point to them, they just are!

Whales sometimes beach themselves for reasons they probably don't even know.. Yet we always think and look for the reason.

Anyhoo I'm not going to let those whales win or change me, its there problem not mine

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By *inkyChrissy99TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I will carry on with my human values.... No doubt they will carry on with theirs.

Nothing changes and won't untill it reaches breaking point and something is properly done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it will never change the way I live my life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No never fuck em.

I wanna talk French to the people in Tunisia again on cheep all inclusive holidays.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nop....

Dreamland in Margate is having its grand re opening starting tonite with a massave event that goes on to the weekend and then repets it in 2 weeks to. and I'm still going to it.

Y wood I not go ?

In case I get blown up ???

the way I see it is....

(note this is just my personal vue and I don't expect everyone will agree)

1... If people stop doing things cos of so cald terror threts then the terrorests win. !!

Witch I don't plan to let happon.

And 2

I don't fear deth.

If I do get blown up i dout ill fill it and i ant loosing mutch so y live in fear ?

Just enjoy wot you can enjoy

What will they have won though ?

I dont understand that comment. Their aim isnt to make us all stay at home.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"Nop....

Dreamland in Margate is having its grand re opening starting tonite with a massave event that goes on to the weekend and then repets it in 2 weeks to. and I'm still going to it.

Y wood I not go ?

In case I get blown up ???

the way I see it is....

(note this is just my personal vue and I don't expect everyone will agree)

1... If people stop doing things cos of so cald terror threts then the terrorests win. !!

Witch I don't plan to let happon.

And 2

I don't fear deth.

If I do get blown up i dout ill fill it and i ant loosing mutch so y live in fear ?

Just enjoy wot you can enjoy

What will they have won though ?

I dont understand that comment. Their aim isnt to make us all stay at home."

Wot is it then if it's not that ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes and no, cos islamic terrorism in sweden is a real problem with the immigrants. I wouldnt go back there to risk my safety, until the situation gets better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nop....

Dreamland in Margate is having its grand re opening starting tonite with a massave event that goes on to the weekend and then repets it in 2 weeks to. and I'm still going to it.

Y wood I not go ?

In case I get blown up ???

the way I see it is....

(note this is just my personal vue and I don't expect everyone will agree)

1... If people stop doing things cos of so cald terror threts then the terrorests win. !!

Witch I don't plan to let happon.

And 2

I don't fear deth.

If I do get blown up i dout ill fill it and i ant loosing mutch so y live in fear ?

Just enjoy wot you can enjoy

What will they have won though ?

I dont understand that comment. Their aim isnt to make us all stay at home.

Wot is it then if it's not that ??"

Their aim is to blow us up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. It hasn't in the past nor doI think I'll change what I do in the future. It's just like any other threat and it's likely hood to directly get me is much less than a road accident which is probably statistically speaking the highest risk for any of us....yet I wonder how many on this thread let alone on fab think each day as they get into their car, "should I do this?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hate the West so much I plan to make them all stay indoors making whooppee instead!.

That will teach them not to diss my illiterate war lord prophet of Doom with cartoons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It hasnt changed me personaly, but im sat here in piccadilly gardens and there are armed police everywhere,which is a sight i never thought id see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://youtu.be/uY9imt2znCM

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

I was in the Army in the 80s, when PIRA were targeting barracks.

The only difference it made to me was checking under my car (just in case), and extra guard duties.

I worry more about the over reactions of people and governments, than I do the (rare) events.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have not changed my plans, but I would consider not going to a gig or big stadium/arena if I was taking my kids.

I agree we should not let it beat us. But we need to do something, every time its attack, prey and change profile pics then go back to normal.

If we do the same thing all of the time we will get the same outcome.

We will not stop this until we stop poking our noses in to countries we do not understand and are not wanted. Foreign policy is a huge reason, more so the way we support groups to do our bidding and then it goes pair shape.

They are scum, murderers and cowards, but how easy to turn young men against the west when they can show them what we are doing and who is being killed on a daily basis in Iraq and Syria etc.

Rant over!

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I have lived with terror all my life both as a child and where we lived and what my parent did as jobs, and then in my own work life so, in all honesty, I can say it has never made me change my plans.

I can understand why people in the immediate aftermath of a terrorist incident why people would change their plans but they will quickly be forgotten, as only repeated attacks will change people's behaviour and no terrorist organisation currently mounting operations in this country could sustain such attacks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was in the Army in the 80s, when PIRA were targeting barracks.

The only difference it made to me was checking under my car (just in case), and extra guard duties.

I worry more about the over reactions of people and governments, than I do the (rare) events. "

Yep - seeing armed police everywhere in Newcastle city centre, not sure how to feel about that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have lived with terror all my life both as a child and where we lived and what my parent did as jobs, and then in my own work life so, in all honesty, I can say it has never made me change my plans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont buy into the media frenzy I dont have TV or read newspapers - so I live my life as normal.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Yep - seeing armed police everywhere in Newcastle city centre, not sure how to feel about that. "

Thought that was normal for a geordie bank holiday weekend..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep - seeing armed police everywhere in Newcastle city centre, not sure how to feel about that.

Thought that was normal for a geordie bank holiday weekend..

Pffft, there's always one.

Saying that the usual troublemakers seemed absent.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Yep - seeing armed police everywhere in Newcastle city centre, not sure how to feel about that.

Thought that was normal for a geordie bank holiday weekend..

Pffft, there's always one.

Saying that the usual troublemakers seemed absent. "

Just making sure we carry on as normal. No terrorist is going to stop any right-minded Brit ridiculing people from other regions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe just a little. Think will avoid big crowded events eg festivals for the next few months & carry on everything else as normal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep - seeing armed police everywhere in Newcastle city centre, not sure how to feel about that.

Thought that was normal for a geordie bank holiday weekend..

Pffft, there's always one.

Saying that the usual troublemakers seemed absent.

Just making sure we carry on as normal. No terrorist is going to stop any right-minded Brit ridiculing people from other regions

Indeed

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I'll be avoiding massive crowds, so rather than watching the glorious Sheffield United, I'll perhaps support Barnsley instead next season.

No, actually, I'll risk it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll be avoiding massive crowds, so rather than watching the glorious Sheffield United, I'll perhaps support Barnsley instead next season.

No, actually, I'll risk it."

That's just taking it too far... like anyone would support Barnsley...

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By *anillaguyMan
over a year ago

Kingston

Just follow the wise words of micky Flanagan, 'don't top up your oyster card too much, just saying'

We had it with the IRA and now it's twats so unhinged that they are prepared to take themselves at the same time. It's got fuck all to do with religion, it's just cunts who have lost the plot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" It's got fuck all to do with religion, it's just cunts who have lost the plot. "

Exactly this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I won't change my life for stupid ignorant fools

I will still make plans , go places , enjoy life and I will teach my child the same ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got tickets for a gig at the O2 in a couple of weeks and initially after the terrible events at Manchester I did briefly consider not going, but thats how these idiots win by making us change our lives and living in fear so I shall be going and shall have a properly good time

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By *lue Narwhal OP Man
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"I have not changed my plans, but I would consider not going to a gig or big stadium/arena if I was taking my kids.

I agree we should not let it beat us. But we need to do something, every time its attack, prey and change profile pics then go back to normal.

If we do the same thing all of the time we will get the same outcome.

They are scum, murderers and cowards, but how easy to turn young men against the west when they can show them what we are doing and who is being killed on a daily basis in Iraq and Syria etc.

Rant over!

Do you not feel we as civilised people have a duty to help others in need?

There is a humanitarian crisis unfolding at the hands of these maniacs hiding behind a religious cause...

If we sit back and let Ill equipped local militia try to deal with the insurgent forces attacking, raping and murdering their civilians, they won't stand a chance.

The sad and unfortunate truth is this requires a multinational task force to go in to the countries that actively harbour these terrorist groups and eradicate them for good..

If they don't, the terrorist cause will just keep growing, sucking in more people and the frequency of attacks will escalate.

We all saw what a well organised terrorist group are capable of with 9/11..

So when do we sit up and listen, when a capital city becomes a no go zone because a dirty bomb had been detonated?

You want to kill the monster, you have to cut its head off!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. I have stopped thinking of my other half being away a lot from My perspective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not one jot.

I am not one bit intimidated by these cowards and never will be.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Planned London visit now cancelled.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

No what has changed me is the amount of racist cunts I have on Facebook

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No what has changed me is the amount of racist cunts I have on Facebook "

Islam is not a race.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op living in manchester recent atracks hasnt and wont stop me making memories one vile action has been met by millions of loving actions you live in fear youll miss it all and they will win,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have any plans for gigs or events, but although I live in a small town there's a very popular music venue close to me and there's a lot of well advertised shows there in the next few months, so I am a little concerned. However I expect the security for those events will be beefed up.

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By *ebsMCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes it has.

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By *anillaguyMan
over a year ago

Kingston

"No what has changed me is the amount of racist cunts I have on Facebook

Islam is not a race."

Sectarian cunts then

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By *anillaguyMan
over a year ago

Kingston

I did have a long weekend booked in Aleppo, have had to cancel that

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

No, and it won't ( not while it remains at this level)

However.... it has made me more concerned about my son's activities though.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"I don't have any plans for gigs or events, but although I live in a small town there's a very popular music venue close to me and there's a lot of well advertised shows there in the next few months, so I am a little concerned. However I expect the security for those events will be beefed up."

But why? To be frank, if I were minded to go out and kill a load of innocent people (which I am not). I'd simply tip up at a big Tesco/Asda/Sainsbury's on a Saturday morning anywhere in the country.

There is nothing our security forces can do to cover every eventuality. If someone wants to do this, it's relatively easy (especially if they don't bother with a bomb and go the truck route).

So why worry? The truth is that it is really really unlikely, certainly less so than being killed in a car crash.

Are you going to stop driving?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"No what has changed me is the amount of racist cunts I have on Facebook

Islam is not a race."

It's not just about Islam and I am aware Islam isn't a race

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

And terrorists are not muslims they are simply just fucked up cunts

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

Nope wouldn't change plans

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"Nop....

Dreamland in Margate is having its grand re opening starting tonite with a massave event that goes on to the weekend and then repets it in 2 weeks to. and I'm still going to it.

Y wood I not go ?

In case I get blown up ???

the way I see it is....

(note this is just my personal vue and I don't expect everyone will agree)

1... If people stop doing things cos of so cald terror threts then the terrorests win. !!

Witch I don't plan to let happon.

And 2

I don't fear deth.

If I do get blown up i dout ill fill it and i ant loosing mutch so y live in fear ?

Just enjoy wot you can enjoy

What will they have won though ?

I dont understand that comment. Their aim isnt to make us all stay at home.

Wot is it then if it's not that ??

Their aim is to blow us up."

Thar must be mor to it than thar or thay wood just nuk the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are going to a very big sporting event in Cardiff in july. We go every year. It has spectatours from all over the world. Its a very friendly event unlike many sporting events. My bag has never been checked. There are no check points around Cardiff. The spectatours take over the centre of Cardiff. Yes i will be scared. However i will still go to it but will be people watching.

We go to large sporting events every other week during the football season. Security is crap ! Occasionally my bag is checked but gs bag (with food in it) is never checked.

Just over a year ago we went to Disneyland Paris. Security was massive. Lots of security checkpoints that looked and xrayed all bags. Police with guns. We felt safe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nop....

Dreamland in Margate is having its grand re opening starting tonite with a massave event that goes on to the weekend and then repets it in 2 weeks to. and I'm still going to it.

Y wood I not go ?

In case I get blown up ???

the way I see it is....

(note this is just my personal vue and I don't expect everyone will agree)

1... If people stop doing things cos of so cald terror threts then the terrorests win. !!

Witch I don't plan to let happon.

And 2

I don't fear deth.

If I do get blown up i dout ill fill it and i ant loosing mutch so y live in fear ?

Just enjoy wot you can enjoy

What will they have won though ?

I dont understand that comment. Their aim isnt to make us all stay at home.

Wot is it then if it's not that ??

Their aim is to blow us up.

Thar must be mor to it than thar or thay wood just nuk the country."

They probably would if they had the means to do it !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

No, always been 'vigilant' etc since the 70's but that's the norm..

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By *ficouldMan
over a year ago

a quandary, could you change my mind?

It hasn't and will not change what I have planned, if it's my time to go then it's my time.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"Nop....

Dreamland in Margate is having its grand re opening starting tonite with a massave event that goes on to the weekend and then repets it in 2 weeks to. and I'm still going to it.

Y wood I not go ?

In case I get blown up ???

the way I see it is....

(note this is just my personal vue and I don't expect everyone will agree)

1... If people stop doing things cos of so cald terror threts then the terrorests win. !!

Witch I don't plan to let happon.

And 2

I don't fear deth.

If I do get blown up i dout ill fill it and i ant loosing mutch so y live in fear ?

Just enjoy wot you can enjoy

What will they have won though ?

I dont understand that comment. Their aim isnt to make us all stay at home.

Wot is it then if it's not that ??

Their aim is to blow us up.

Thar must be mor to it than thar or thay wood just nuk the country.

They probably would if they had the means to do it !"

I think it's best to just agree to disagree on this subject.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was sitting on top deck of London bus today, chap with a beard/rucksack and looked really nervous was about to get on

I and another chap independently got off and waited for the next bus

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Was sitting on top deck of London bus today, chap with a beard/rucksack and looked really nervous was about to get on

I and another chap independently got off and waited for the next bus "

And that then feeds the whole horrid cycle where some feel they may as well do what they are being accused of.

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By *hickennchipsWoman
over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Yes it has, I'm scared to go anywhere :/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was sitting on top deck of London bus today, chap with a beard/rucksack and looked really nervous was about to get on

I and another chap independently got off and waited for the next bus

And that then feeds the whole horrid cycle where some feel they may as well do what they are being accused of.

No its called paranoia and understandable for some people given the threat we face.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

It's a no from me. The IRA didn't stop me so this won't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not me! That's what they want ,don't let them beat us!!!!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Was sitting on top deck of London bus today, chap with a beard/rucksack and looked really nervous was about to get on

I and another chap independently got off and waited for the next bus

And that then feeds the whole horrid cycle where some feel they may as well do what they are being accused of.

No its called paranoia and understandable for some people given the threat we face."

I understand that but I also know that treating everyone of a type as though they will do something leads to animosity.

After 7/7 I saw a Sikh with a sign on his backpack that read 'Please don't freak, I'm a friendly Sikh' and had my young, Asian male member of staff feel he had no choice but to shave off his beard because he was embarrassed at how he suddenly had whole tube carriages to himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was sitting on top deck of London bus today, chap with a beard/rucksack and looked really nervous was about to get on

I and another chap independently got off and waited for the next bus

And that then feeds the whole horrid cycle where some feel they may as well do what they are being accused of.

No its called paranoia and understandable for some people given the threat we face.

I understand that but I also know that treating everyone of a type as though they will do something leads to animosity.

That is the Islamic terrorists' fault and no decent person would turn to terrorism because of the few scared members of the public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was sitting on top deck of London bus today, chap with a beard/rucksack and looked really nervous was about to get on

I and another chap independently got off and waited for the next bus

And that then feeds the whole horrid cycle where some feel they may as well do what they are being accused of.

No its called paranoia and understandable for some people given the threat we face.

I understand that but I also know that treating everyone of a type as though they will do something leads to animosity.

Anyone with a few brain cells would know a Sikh is our friend not the enemy.

I'm sorry your Asian work mate felt the need for that but maybe if the Muslim council were not so silent in this case and every other case seen around the world it would ease things a little.

We all know its only a very small minority who wish us harm but the problem is our hands are tied because of PC nonsense now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I wont change a thing

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By *irestorm 500Couple
over a year ago

coventry

"in a word; no, life must go on and it will."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Carrying on as normal is the only way to go for me. Be alert and more aware of your surroundings maybe, I know I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did intitially give second thoughts to taking my daughter to see Bieber next month in the Principality Stadium in Cardiff after what happened in Manchester.

But fuck it, we're going

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Was sitting on top deck of London bus today, chap with a beard/rucksack and looked really nervous was about to get on

I and another chap independently got off and waited for the next bus

And that then feeds the whole horrid cycle where some feel they may as well do what they are being accused of.

No its called paranoia and understandable for some people given the threat we face."

sorry but paranoia is not understandable..

the sad fact is that as deplorable and vile an act that terrorism is more people will die of many different things in greater numbers in this country..

paranoia, fear and division is what they want..