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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck "That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness? | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness? "Patience for one, and a better attitude than the one you seem to have at the moment. Try to look at it from the perspective of single ladies for example, or even us for that matter. If we, theoretically, arranged a meet with you, and as can happen, there is no chemistry or attraction between all parties, so we decide not to take it any further, will you behave like a petulant child or worse get aggressive?? | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness?
Patience for one, and a better attitude than the one you seem to have at the moment. Try to look at it from the perspective of single ladies for example, or even us for that matter. If we, theoretically, arranged a meet with you, and as can happen, there is no chemistry or attraction between all parties, so we decide not to take it any further, will you behave like a petulant child or worse get aggressive??
"That's assuming that there isn't any chemistry, I like to at least chat or a bit first to determine chemistry, if we meet and there is none then it's a thanks but not forme scenario and we go our separate ways. | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness?
Patience for one, and a better attitude than the one you seem to have at the moment. Try to look at it from the perspective of single ladies for example, or even us for that matter. If we, theoretically, arranged a meet with you, and as can happen, there is no chemistry or attraction between all parties, so we decide not to take it any further, will you behave like a petulant child or worse get aggressive??
"And my OP is about actually talking to people on here and getting a chance to see if there is chemistry, it feels like you need to be famous and rich or offering to pay for people's hotels to make a difference | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Go back to pof. "And your reasoning behind that? | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness? "Well put it this way, sweeping generalisations and moany attitudes don't get a decent meet, in my experience. So basically not behaving as you are. Hope that helps and is appreciated more than my empathy was | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF? "Define what you class as a decent meet. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF? "Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet."Oh is that what *you* do, Clem? I'm wounded.  | |||
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"I'm making an assumption here that you're thinking ladies on here will go for someone with loads of cash as in "bill gates wallet"?" I'll answer my own question "Er.....well, you know...innit? Dosh drops their knicks....opens 'em up like yas wallet" | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
Oh is that what *you* do, Clem? I'm wounded. "I do nothing... | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
Oh is that what *you* do, Clem? I'm wounded.
I do nothing..."I am not nothing!  | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Go back to pof.
And your reasoning behind that? "Yeah, go back to POF as that clearly works better for you- and clearly your expectations and sense of entitlement far outweigh the reality of Fab. People without Tatums looks or Gates wallet get lots of decent meets on here. Take from that what you wish. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet."So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it? | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Go back to pof.
And your reasoning behind that?
Yeah, go back to POF as that clearly works better for you- and clearly your expectations and sense of entitlement far outweigh the reality of Fab.
People without Tatums looks or Gates wallet get lots of decent meets on here. Take from that what you wish."Exactly this. The "reality" of fab. People don't understand "swinging". It was never supposed to be something to do because you can't keep a girlfriend. | |||
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"I'm making an assumption here that you're thinking ladies on here will go for someone with loads of cash as in "bill gates wallet"? I'll answer my own question "Er.....well, you know...innit? Dosh drops their knicks....opens 'em up like yas wallet" " Not sure where it was that you went to school but I don't understand.... | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Go back to pof.
And your reasoning behind that?
Yeah, go back to POF as that clearly works better for you- and clearly your expectations and sense of entitlement far outweigh the reality of Fab.
People without Tatums looks or Gates wallet get lots of decent meets on here. Take from that what you wish.
Exactly this. The "reality" of fab. People don't understand "swinging". It was never supposed to be something to do because you can't keep a girlfriend. "Who says I can't keep a girlfriend? Haha! | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it? "There are people who will lower their standards just for a fuck. Do you get many offers? | |||
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"Meets want positivity. Yeah it can be frustrating at times, but keep at it. And try avoid a ranty thread in the forums as bad news travels faster than good news. All the best OP "It's hard to be positive when you des a thought out message which relates to someone's profile. As far as I can tell its a location thing, midlands and northern members seem a lot nicer and forthcoming than those in the south | |||
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"I'm making an assumption here that you're thinking ladies on here will go for someone with loads of cash as in "bill gates wallet"? I'll answer my own question "Er.....well, you know...innit? Dosh drops their knicks....opens 'em up like yas wallet" Not sure where it was that you went to school but I don't understand...." Let me rephrase it: do you think ladies on here will have sex with a man for money? | |||
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"I'm making an assumption here that you're thinking ladies on here will go for someone with loads of cash as in "bill gates wallet"? I'll answer my own question "Er.....well, you know...innit? Dosh drops their knicks....opens 'em up like yas wallet" Not sure where it was that you went to school but I don't understand.... Let me rephrase it: do you think ladies on here will have sex with a man for money?" Does Bill Gates pay for sex then? Because what I was implying, as I mentioned in a previous reply, is that women that are local to me expect a guy to pay for hotels, wine and dine them and . Don't get me wrong I'm all for a date and a social but isn't that why dating sites exist? | |||
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"I'm making an assumption here that you're thinking ladies on here will go for someone with loads of cash as in "bill gates wallet"? I'll answer my own question "Er.....well, you know...innit? Dosh drops their knicks....opens 'em up like yas wallet" Not sure where it was that you went to school but I don't understand.... Let me rephrase it: do you think ladies on here will have sex with a man for money? Does Bill Gates pay for sex then? Because what I was implying, as I mentioned in a previous reply, is that women that are local to me expect a guy to pay for hotels, wine and dine them and . Don't get me wrong I'm all for a date and a social but isn't that why dating sites exist?" Choose different women! It's really not a good selling point. Very few swingers care about how much money someone has its more about personality and looks and character and the ability to interact well. Tell 'em to do one. | |||
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"I'm making an assumption here that you're thinking ladies on here will go for someone with loads of cash as in "bill gates wallet"? I'll answer my own question "Er.....well, you know...innit? Dosh drops their knicks....opens 'em up like yas wallet" Not sure where it was that you went to school but I don't understand.... Let me rephrase it: do you think ladies on here will have sex with a man for money? Does Bill Gates pay for sex then? Because what I was implying, as I mentioned in a previous reply, is that women that are local to me expect a guy to pay for hotels, wine and dine them and . Don't get me wrong I'm all for a date and a social but isn't that why dating sites exist? Choose different women! It's really not a good selling point. Very few swingers care about how much money someone has its more about personality and looks and character and the ability to interact well. Tell 'em to do one. " Unfortunately that's all that seems to be around my area! | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it? "No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting. There is no need to be nasty to a simple question. If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck. Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly. Not a quality most women look for. It's a swinging site not a sex site. If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet! | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
That wasn't wen your quote that I replied to it was clems....... This Come down from that horse "Your really not helping yourself | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness? "With that attitude I can't imagine why you struggle.  | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness?
Patience for one, and a better attitude than the one you seem to have at the moment. Try to look at it from the perspective of single ladies for example, or even us for that matter. If we, theoretically, arranged a meet with you, and as can happen, there is no chemistry or attraction between all parties, so we decide not to take it any further, will you behave like a petulant child or worse get aggressive??
"Some people lack self awareness as shown by the op. I think your inciteful post will go over his head. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF? "Less aggregation and not appealing petulant is always a good start. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
"Exactly this. Attitude is everything in swinging. Attitude is often more important to people on the scene. You can have Tatums looks, you can have Gates wallet, it doesn't mean shot if you haven't got the right attitude. If you have the wrong one, then it just won't work for you. This is where most people fail miserably on here, and on the swinging scene in general. This is where I would suggest you are failing. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
That wasn't wen your quote that I replied to it was clems....... This Come down from that horse
Your really not helping yourself "You mistook your post for Someone else's and then got offended at the reply which suited that said comment? You then call me immature and silly, you are supposed to be the older ad more mature one but thus far haven't proved that! | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Less aggregation and not appealing petulant is always a good start."I only reciprocate aggression. I was merely asking why some tend to have a lot of meets an some do not. It seems to have escalated a fair and is now a tear down of my personal character based on a few posts | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF? "I think a more detailed profile and a whole stack of patience....good luck! | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
Exactly this.
Attitude is everything in swinging.
Attitude is often more important to people on the scene.
You can have Tatums looks, you can have Gates wallet, it doesn't mean shot if you haven't got the right attitude.
If you have the wrong one, then it just won't work for you.
This is where most people fail miserably on here, and on the swinging scene in general.
This is where I would suggest you are failing."So is writing a nice message based on someone's profile and what they are looking for looks wise the bad attitude? | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
Exactly this.
Attitude is everything in swinging.
Attitude is often more important to people on the scene.
You can have Tatums looks, you can have Gates wallet, it doesn't mean shot if you haven't got the right attitude.
If you have the wrong one, then it just won't work for you.
This is where most people fail miserably on here, and on the swinging scene in general.
This is where I would suggest you are failing.
So is writing a nice message based on someone's profile and what they are looking for looks wise the bad attitude? "I didn't say bad attitude. But having the attitude of being entitled to a reply is the wrong attitude. However your posts on this thread are certainly representative of a bad attitude, particular when you seem to point the finger of fault at everyone else but yourself. Perhaps take some responsibility in the fact that your lack of success is likely to be closer to home than the members of Fab fault? | |||
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"I can understand your frustration, OP. It can be difficult for a single guy on fab. Personally, I always roll my eyes a bit at threads like these because it never occured to me when we started swinging that there would be tons of women looking for NSA sex and I don't see why so many men seem to think there will be. There are women who want to be "wined and dined." Just ignore them if you don't like it. As for women wanting attractive men....well, yeah, of course. I assume you wouldn't fuck someone you didn't like attractive either. If you can't find what you're looking for here, then why stay? If you have better luck on POF, where women are mostly looking for dates not NSA sex, then go back there. If fab is just a way for you to get sex without buying a woman dinner first then I don't think this is really the place for you anyway (and I think you're doing a disservice to the women on POF as well). If you're actually interested in swinging and you aren't having luck on fab then head to a club or a social. Clubs are a bit expensive, though, so a social might be best. But you may have to buy a beer or soda at a social, so it might not quite be what you're looking for either. Dogging, maybe? Anyway, as I said before, I do get your frustration, but your attitude as exhibited on this thread kinda indicates why you're not having the easiest time on here. Change the input and you may change the output..." As I said previously, I don't mind a social or getting to know someone first before meeting them, after all you don't meet a stranger or someone straight away unless their is major chemistry and you both want each other. I think the point of this thread has been overlooked, I was merely trying ascertain as to why a though through message which is based on someone's wants and needs on their profile gets overlooked but you then see a profile with a guy stood next you a Mercedes with a short profile with a ton of verifications? | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
Exactly this.
Attitude is everything in swinging.
Attitude is often more important to people on the scene.
You can have Tatums looks, you can have Gates wallet, it doesn't mean shot if you haven't got the right attitude.
If you have the wrong one, then it just won't work for you.
This is where most people fail miserably on here, and on the swinging scene in general.
This is where I would suggest you are failing.
So is writing a nice message based on someone's profile and what they are looking for looks wise the bad attitude?
I didn't say bad attitude.
But having the attitude of being entitled to a reply is the wrong attitude.
However your posts on this thread are certainly representative of a bad attitude, particular when you seem to point the finger of fault at everyone else but yourself.
Perhaps take some responsibility in the fact that your lack of success is likely to be closer to home than the members of Fab fault?"You're judging in replies to comments again.. What I do is send thought out messages to people that match what I'm looking for and I match their requirements. Is that the wrong thing to do? Is my profile bad? My pics to much? | |||
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"If I could get my money back I would " You're talking about money again! I think the op was trying to say he hasn't met any ladies yet who don't want the expectation of being wined and dined and hotel costs borne solely by him and I don't blame him for getting narked about that! All I can say is that there are lady swingers (swingettes?) who don't expect all that and any costs are split. It takes time and effort to meet them. I think people misunderstood that you were willing to pay for sec me included and reading back I was wrong and for that I apologise. This place can be frustrating at times but you need to be able to put yourself above it all. If someone is aggressive don't be aggressive back. Ignore....it takes a little self control not to pound the keys back but at the end of it, it you that looks good, not them. My advice? Go and make a cup of tea and have an hour out and come back and start reading the forums, looking st the photos and relax. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
That wasn't wen your quote that I replied to it was clems....... This Come down from that horse
Your really not helping yourself
You mistook your post for
Someone else's and then got offended at the reply which suited that said comment?
You then call me immature and silly, you are supposed to be the older ad more mature one but thus far haven't proved that!"Yes I made a mistake I'm adult enough to admit it. However you are still not helping yourself. You wanted input you got it, you don't like it and now your being aggressive and rude. I have not been either of those things. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF?
Stop trying to get "decent" meets, and just go for a meet.
So it's a case of meeting anyone and anything for you is it?
No its not a don't fuck men only women and I'm very picky about those! about 90 % of our meets are from socials the rest are friends we keep meeting.
There is no need to be nasty to a simple question.
If you outlined what you were looking for as in what you require of a ' decent ' meet you may have better luck.
Unfortunately slagging people off of the forum shows your imiturtity and frankly makes you look silly.
Not a quality most women look for.
It's a swinging site not a sex site.
If you just want to fuck people go pay for it! Then you can choose your 'decent' meet!
That wasn't wen your quote that I replied to it was clems....... This Come down from that horse
Your really not helping yourself
You mistook your post for
Someone else's and then got offended at the reply which suited that said comment?
You then call me immature and silly, you are supposed to be the older ad more mature one but thus far haven't proved that!
Yes I made a mistake I'm adult enough to admit it.
However you are still not helping yourself.
You wanted input you got it, you don't like it and now your being aggressive and rude.
I have not been either of those things.
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"If I could get my money back I would You're talking about money again! I think the op was trying to say he hasn't met any ladies yet who don't want the expectation of being wined and dined and hotel costs borne solely by him and I don't blame him for getting narked about that! All I can say is that there are lady swingers (swingettes?) who don't expect all that and any costs are split. It takes time and effort to meet them. I think people misunderstood that you were willing to pay for sec me included and reading back I was wrong and for that I apologise. This place can be frustrating at times but you need to be able to put yourself above it all. If someone is aggressive don't be aggressive back. Ignore....it takes a little self control not to pound the keys back but at the end of it, it you that looks good, not them. My advice? Go and make a cup of tea and have an hour out and come back and start reading the forums, looking st the photos and relax. " Exactly this! | |||
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"I can understand your frustration, OP. It can be difficult for a single guy on fab. Personally, I always roll my eyes a bit at threads like these because it never occured to me when we started swinging that there would be tons of women looking for NSA sex and I don't see why so many men seem to think there will be. There are women who want to be "wined and dined." Just ignore them if you don't like it. As for women wanting attractive men....well, yeah, of course. I assume you wouldn't fuck someone you didn't like attractive either. If you can't find what you're looking for here, then why stay? If you have better luck on POF, where women are mostly looking for dates not NSA sex, then go back there. If fab is just a way for you to get sex without buying a woman dinner first then I don't think this is really the place for you anyway (and I think you're doing a disservice to the women on POF as well). If you're actually interested in swinging and you aren't having luck on fab then head to a club or a social. Clubs are a bit expensive, though, so a social might be best. But you may have to buy a beer or soda at a social, so it might not quite be what you're looking for either. Dogging, maybe? Anyway, as I said before, I do get your frustration, but your attitude as exhibited on this thread kinda indicates why you're not having the easiest time on here. Change the input and you may change the output... As I said previously, I don't mind a social or getting to know someone first before meeting them, after all you don't meet a stranger or someone straight away unless their is major chemistry and you both want each other. I think the point of this thread has been overlooked, I was merely trying ascertain as to why a though through message which is based on someone's wants and needs on their profile gets overlooked but you then see a profile with a guy stood next you a Mercedes with a short profile with a ton of verifications? " You misunderstand me - I meant that you should look out for organized socials, not one-on-one socials (though they are good, too). You can hear about socials in your area from word of mouth or on the meets forum. They are a good way of meeting people in your area and women tend to go to them. As for what makes a guy successful on fab, I think you are misguided in your belief that its about money (or fancy cars). I think it's about 2 things - a guy's looks and his attitude. I think guys who are attractive or fit a specific desired trait can do very well here. But a guy's attitude can be just as important. I think that's what a lot of people on this thread have been trying to tell you, but you've been taking it as a personal insult. I can usually tell if a guy who is messaging us is into swinging or if he's just here for a quick fuck. If I feel like it's the latter, then we won't be meeting him. So, are you here for the former or the latter? Honestly? I get the feeling you're here for a quick fuck. But most women can get that anywhere so why would they seek that out here? If you're actually into swinging then maybe you need to change your vibe. If you're here for a quick fuck then do yourself a favor and head to a bar on Friday night - I promise you'll have better luck that way. | |||
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"Is that what is required for a decent meet? Or should I go back to POF? "I hope he's got Bill's permission to have his wallet or he could get in trouble! | |||
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"I can understand your frustration, OP. It can be difficult for a single guy on fab. Personally, I always roll my eyes a bit at threads like these because it never occured to me when we started swinging that there would be tons of women looking for NSA sex and I don't see why so many men seem to think there will be. There are women who want to be "wined and dined." Just ignore them if you don't like it. As for women wanting attractive men....well, yeah, of course. I assume you wouldn't fuck someone you didn't like attractive either. If you can't find what you're looking for here, then why stay? If you have better luck on POF, where women are mostly looking for dates not NSA sex, then go back there. If fab is just a way for you to get sex without buying a woman dinner first then I don't think this is really the place for you anyway (and I think you're doing a disservice to the women on POF as well). If you're actually interested in swinging and you aren't having luck on fab then head to a club or a social. Clubs are a bit expensive, though, so a social might be best. But you may have to buy a beer or soda at a social, so it might not quite be what you're looking for either. Dogging, maybe? Anyway, as I said before, I do get your frustration, but your attitude as exhibited on this thread kinda indicates why you're not having the easiest time on here. Change the input and you may change the output... As I said previously, I don't mind a social or getting to know someone first before meeting them, after all you don't meet a stranger or someone straight away unless their is major chemistry and you both want each other. I think the point of this thread has been overlooked, I was merely trying ascertain as to why a though through message which is based on someone's wants and needs on their profile gets overlooked but you then see a profile with a guy stood next you a Mercedes with a short profile with a ton of verifications? You misunderstand me - I meant that you should look out for organized socials, not one-on-one socials (though they are good, too). You can hear about socials in your area from word of mouth or on the meets forum. They are a good way of meeting people in your area and women tend to go to them. As for what makes a guy successful on fab, I think you are misguided in your belief that its about money (or fancy cars). I think it's about 2 things - a guy's looks and his attitude. I think guys who are attractive or fit a specific desired trait can do very well here. But a guy's attitude can be just as important. I think that's what a lot of people on this thread have been trying to tell you, but you've been taking it as a personal insult. I can usually tell if a guy who is messaging us is into swinging or if he's just here for a quick fuck. If I feel like it's the latter, then we won't be meeting him. So, are you here for the former or the latter? Honestly? I get the feeling you're here for a quick fuck. But most women can get that anywhere so why would they seek that out here? If you're actually into swinging then maybe you need to change your vibe. If you're here for a quick fuck then do yourself a favor and head to a bar on Friday night - I promise you'll have better luck that way. " But I get shy if I have to talk face to face   | |||
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"You're judging in replies to comments again.. No I'm not, I'm judging on what you have said. Again, not accepting responsibility and believing your faults are other people responsibility. You have demonstrated a sense of entitlement. You are entitled to nothing on here. As for your profile, I haven't a clue if there's anything wrong with it, I instantly blocked you on an assessment of your attitude based on your posts on this thread. I felt that attitude was poor. I feel that assessment was further well justified." So does that mean we can't be friends? | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness? "Don't expect a meet and it will come... Maybe. Give up on the idea that you'll get a meet, chill out and start getting to know people, use the forums. Most profiles don't really give you enough to start a conversation with really, so maybe follow a few threads and follow up message people you like the looks of from there. | |||
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"You're judging in replies to comments again.. No I'm not, I'm judging on what you have said. Again, not accepting responsibility and believing your faults are other people responsibility. You have demonstrated a sense of entitlement. You are entitled to nothing on here. As for your profile, I haven't a clue if there's anything wrong with it, I instantly blocked you on an assessment of your attitude based on your posts on this thread. I felt that attitude was poor. I feel that assessment was further well justified. So does that mean we can't be friends? " I'm sure you can figure that out, in the same manner that you seem to have had everyone else figured out on your first post.  | |||
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"You're judging in replies to comments again.. No I'm not, I'm judging on what you have said. Again, not accepting responsibility and believing your faults are other people responsibility. You have demonstrated a sense of entitlement. You are entitled to nothing on here. As for your profile, I haven't a clue if there's anything wrong with it, I instantly blocked you on an assessment of your attitude based on your posts on this thread. I felt that attitude was poor. I feel that assessment was further well justified. So does that mean we can't be friends? I'm sure you can figure that out, in the same manner that you seem to have had everyone else figured out on your first post. "I'm confused? Is that a yes? | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness?
Don't expect a meet and it will come... Maybe.
Give up on the idea that you'll get a meet, chill out and start getting to know people, use the forums.
Most profiles don't really give you enough to start a conversation with really, so maybe follow a few threads and follow up message people you like the looks of from there."I dot expect meets which everyone seems to have assumed, all I ask is why if I send a thoughtful funny message can I not wen get a response but someone with a blank profile that either poses with a car or looks like an actor can have a ton of meets? | |||
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"You're judging in replies to comments again.. No I'm not, I'm judging on what you have said. Again, not accepting responsibility and believing your faults are other people responsibility. You have demonstrated a sense of entitlement. You are entitled to nothing on here. As for your profile, I haven't a clue if there's anything wrong with it, I instantly blocked you on an assessment of your attitude based on your posts on this thread. I felt that attitude was poor. I feel that assessment was further well justified. So does that mean we can't be friends? I'm sure you can figure that out, in the same manner that you seem to have had everyone else figured out on your first post.
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"You're judging in replies to comments again.. No I'm not, I'm judging on what you have said. Again, not accepting responsibility and believing your faults are other people responsibility. You have demonstrated a sense of entitlement. You are entitled to nothing on here. As for your profile, I haven't a clue if there's anything wrong with it, I instantly blocked you on an assessment of your attitude based on your posts on this thread. I felt that attitude was poor. I feel that assessment was further well justified. So does that mean we can't be friends? I'm sure you can figure that out, in the same manner that you seem to have had everyone else figured out on your first post.
I'm confused? Is that a yes?
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness?
Don't expect a meet and it will come... Maybe.
Give up on the idea that you'll get a meet, chill out and start getting to know people, use the forums.
Most profiles don't really give you enough to start a conversation with really, so maybe follow a few threads and follow up message people you like the looks of from there.
I dot expect meets which everyone seems to have assumed, all I ask is why if I send a thoughtful funny message can I not wen get a response but someone with a blank profile that either poses with a car or looks like an actor can have a ton of meets? "The People with little on their profiles might be well known at socials or clubs so don't need a well written profile. Try get their meets 'off fab' rather than 'off of fab' | |||
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"I dot expect meets which everyone seems to have assumed, all I ask is why if I send a thoughtful funny message can I not wen get a response but someone with a blank profile that either poses with a car or looks like an actor can have a ton of meets? " There is no rhyme or reason or magic formula though OP. You really shouldn't compare either and just focus on your own experience and not worry about others use of the site. What you might think is a thoughtful or funny message might not be taken that way by the recipient, maybe they looked at your profile before reading the message (as a lot do) and decided you weren't for them based on that and your pics, so just deleted the message unread. As I said earlier you've only been here 9 weeks and have had at least one meet already, which by most single guys standards is pretty good going. To be honest the way you've presented yourself here in this thread isn't going to have helped your cause either - you may not think you've got an attitude or a sense of entitlement, but as so many others have pointed out, that's the way it comes across, and has done pretty much from the first post. As I started off by saying, there is no rhyme or reason to this place, just takes time, patience, a positive attitude, decent profile and pics and even then there's no guarantees. Good luck | |||
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"Sorry to hear you're frustrated, OP. I guess only you can decide what you do next. Good luck
That didn't really help with what is needed for a decent meet? Like what are women expecting of men? Even when you read a profile and are a good fit you're met with rudeness?
Don't expect a meet and it will come... Maybe.
Give up on the idea that you'll get a meet, chill out and start getting to know people, use the forums.
Most profiles don't really give you enough to start a conversation with really, so maybe follow a few threads and follow up message people you like the looks of from there.
I dot expect meets which everyone seems to have assumed, all I ask is why if I send a thoughtful funny message can I not wen get a response but someone with a blank profile that either poses with a car or looks like an actor can have a ton of meets? "I ain't she a golddigger but she ain't messing with no broke, broke. | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck. "Thanks for the positivity!! | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck. "Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here"Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha! | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha! "I think you should | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha!
I think you should "And OP lived happily ever after. | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha!
I think you should "I'll pop you on my hotlist for a rainy day.... | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha!
I think you should
I'll pop you on my hotlist for a rainy day...."Isn't it meant to rain later? | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha!
I think you should
I'll pop you on my hotlist for a rainy day....
Isn't it meant to rain later? "Haha, I like you, you'll do fine on here I think. | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha!
I think you should
I'll pop you on my hotlist for a rainy day....
Isn't it meant to rain later?
Haha, I like you, you'll do fine on here I think. "If we could find more like you then I think I will be fine mmmm 2 of you | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha!
I think you should
I'll pop you on my hotlist for a rainy day....
Isn't it meant to rain later?
Haha, I like you, you'll do fine on here I think.
If we could find more like you then I think I will be fine mmmm 2 of you "Haha, mmm two of you! | |||
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"Oh give the guy a break! I think you look cute and if I was looking for a local young hottie I'd chat to you - it may be your age that is against you, the demographic of fab means that most people are looking for someone older. Go to a cougar and cubs night at a club, you'll get mobbed...good luck.
Yeah i wish people would back off a bit in here
Yeah, he's got a great veri too, I'm quite tempted haha!
I think you should
I'll pop you on my hotlist for a rainy day....
Isn't it meant to rain later?
Haha, I like you, you'll do fine on here I think.
If we could find more like you then I think I will be fine mmmm 2 of you
Haha, mmm two of you! "That would be one hell of a foursome | |||
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"All a guy has to do to meet me is be good looking, tall with a large penis. Not interested in his purse. " Hmm how am I doing so far? | |||
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"All a guy has to do to meet me is be good looking, tall with a large penis. Not interested in his purse. Hmm how am I doing so far? " You've got decent quadriceps and have a bit of a Leigh halfpenny look about you and you're tall(ish). Don't know what you penis is like and a bit young for me but I'd say you were handsome. Maybe stick a penis picture up and one of you bent over showing your bum hole. | |||
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"All a guy has to do to meet me is be good looking, tall with a large penis. Not interested in his purse. Hmm how am I doing so far? You've got decent quadriceps and have a bit of a Leigh halfpenny look about you and you're tall(ish). Don't know what you penis is like and a bit young for me but I'd say you were handsome. Maybe stick a penis picture up and one of you bent over showing your bum hole. " Add me as a friend and you can see the first, I'll see about the second for you | |||
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"All a guy has to do to meet me is be good looking, tall with a large penis. Not interested in his purse. Hmm how am I doing so far? You've got decent quadriceps and have a bit of a Leigh halfpenny look about you and you're tall(ish). Don't know what you penis is like and a bit young for me but I'd say you were handsome. Maybe stick a penis picture up and one of you bent over showing your bum hole. Add me as a friend and you can see the first, I'll see about the second for you " my friends list is purely for past and potential shags. | |||
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"All a guy has to do to meet me is be good looking, tall with a large penis. Not interested in his purse. Hmm how am I doing so far? You've got decent quadriceps and have a bit of a Leigh halfpenny look about you and you're tall(ish). Don't know what you penis is like and a bit young for me but I'd say you were handsome. Maybe stick a penis picture up and one of you bent over showing your bum hole. Add me as a friend and you can see the first, I'll see about the second for you my friends list is purely for past and potential shags. " Do I not class as a potential shag then? | |||
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