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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Do you really speak your mind?

Constrained by political correctness?

Constrained by the law?

Constrained by fear of the reaction of others?

'Taboo subjects'

How freely do you speak?

Confident enough to say anything, or is your tongue all swollen from being bitten....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Almost always speak my mind but use discretion and do take into account legal, and affective implications.

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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands


"Do you really speak your mind?

Constrained by political correctness?

Constrained by the law?

Constrained by fear of the reaction of others?

'Taboo subjects'

How freely do you speak?

Confident enough to say anything, or is your tongue all swollen from being bitten.... "
Try me Black spice, ask TT?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The law if correctly written does not constrain us, it frees us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Almost always speak my mind but use discretion and do take into account legal, and affective implications.

"

and often gets you on the naughty step for 24hours lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Almost always speak my mind but use discretion and do take into account legal, and affective implications.

and often gets you on the naughty step for 24hours lol"

cor blimey, only the once

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you really speak your mind?

Constrained by political correctness?

Constrained by the law?

Constrained by fear of the reaction of others?

'Taboo subjects'

How freely do you speak?

Confident enough to say anything, or is your tongue all swollen from being bitten.... "

I think if your point is strong enough you should be able to make it concisely and accurately without fear of causing necessary offence.

That said, there is so much unnecessary offence taken you have to have a broad back and conviction in your thoughts before you open your mouth these days.

Treading on egg shells has never been my strong point but contrary to what some may believe I do give thought to what I say (well, most of the time )

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Why is it that when I hear the term freedom of speech I can only think about inciting hatred?

It just seems to me that those that spout about not being able to have freedom of speech are the ones that want to be the most offensive to people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will freely put my point across

Do I really speak my mind - no

I do think about legalities, especially in written form.

I am aware of my audience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm wary on here because I've said things before that could give my identity away, which could compromise my sleeper cell status.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will freely put my point across

Do I really speak my mind - no

I do think about legalities, especially in written form.

I am aware of my audience "

I'm in agreement with what you have said.

Some innocent statements can be misconstrued, and cause distress for all concerned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it that when I hear the term freedom of speech I can only think about inciting hatred?

It just seems to me that those that spout about not being able to have freedom of speech are the ones that want to be the most offensive to people?

"

unless its hippies who wanna save the planet from conglomerategoverment industries lol...but yes...."freedom of speech" has been perverted from its original intent, but it is suited to certain "groups", u know those groups....er...the fucking idiots!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Why is it that when I hear the term freedom of speech I can only think about inciting hatred?

It just seems to me that those that spout about not being able to have freedom of speech are the ones that want to be the most offensive to people?

"

In general i would say thats true, not sure i would put the OP in that 'bracket'personally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Essentially I have total freedom of speech, and feel I could say anything, anywhere at anytime and to anyone.

I do however have some intelligence, tact and diplomacy. I would not exploit said freedom to purposely hurt or attack an individual, or knowingly distress them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it that when I hear the term freedom of speech I can only think about inciting hatred?

It just seems to me that those that spout about not being able to have freedom of speech are the ones that want to be the most offensive to people?

"

That's it in a nutshell HPC.

I notice the media are quick to use Freedom of Speech just before or just after they've trampled over someone else's right to privacy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say it how it is ........ and find the right words and hope people will not find it offensive ..... have to be true to who we are here or whats the point .. i will not lick peoples arse to look good in front of others like some will at times. My spellings maybe crap but i am trufull xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say it how it is ........ and find the right words and hope people will not find it offensive ..... have to be true to who we are here or whats the point .. i will not lick peoples arse to look good in front of others like some will at times. My spellings maybe crap but i am trufull xxx"

specially if they are hairy, not to mention the last sentence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I tone it up or down to suit the circumstances. In my youth I was very passionate about almost everything and cringe at some of my forceful traits back then.

I smile at the angry young men and women of the world with strong values and opinions and think - yep that was me! I still have some of those tendencies, because I care about things, but feel less inclined with age to want to be heard and so I'm more careful on who's toes or feelings I'm treading. I'd rather listen and absorb and put my point across in a more chilled way.

Try to explain to a younger person this laid back feeling that hits you around the 44 years of age mark and steadily sedates your brain and they look at you as if you've lost your marbles. But it creeps up gradually. You see what matters most in life and you become more aware that you're bigger picture is getting smaller with the less time you have on the planet so you tend to make differences where it matters and thats mostly in your family and locality. But it happens to everyone and its nice to feel so relaxed - its our reward before hitting the grave!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Personally, I tone it up or down to suit the circumstances. In my youth I was very passionate about almost everything and cringe at some of my forceful traits back then.

I smile at the angry young men and women of the world with strong values and opinions and think - yep that was me! I still have some of those tendencies, because I care about things, but feel less inclined with age to want to be heard and so I'm more careful on who's toes or feelings I'm treading. I'd rather listen and absorb and put my point across in a more chilled way.

Try to explain to a younger person this laid back feeling that hits you around the 44 years of age mark and steadily sedates your brain and they look at you as if you've lost your marbles. But it creeps up gradually. You see what matters most in life and you become more aware that you're bigger picture is getting smaller with the less time you have on the planet so you tend to make differences where it matters and thats mostly in your family and locality. But it happens to everyone and its nice to feel so relaxed - its our reward before hitting the grave!

"

I have been trying to write what I meant, but kept re typing.

Your post is exactly what I was trying to say, so thanks for that, saves me trying again.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall


"Essentially I have total freedom of speech, and feel I could say anything, anywhere at anytime and to anyone.

I do however have some intelligence, tact and diplomacy. I would not exploit said freedom to purposely hurt or attack an individual, or knowingly distress them."

Agree with this

Mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I tone it up or down to suit the circumstances. In my youth I was very passionate about almost everything and cringe at some of my forceful traits back then.

I smile at the angry young men and women of the world with strong values and opinions and think - yep that was me! I still have some of those tendencies, because I care about things, but feel less inclined with age to want to be heard and so I'm more careful on who's toes or feelings I'm treading. I'd rather listen and absorb and put my point across in a more chilled way.

Try to explain to a younger person this laid back feeling that hits you around the 44 years of age mark and steadily sedates your brain and they look at you as if you've lost your marbles. But it creeps up gradually. You see what matters most in life and you become more aware that you're bigger picture is getting smaller with the less time you have on the planet so you tend to make differences where it matters and thats mostly in your family and locality. But it happens to everyone and its nice to feel so relaxed - its our reward before hitting the grave!

"

Yes but there are still times when we have to stick 2 fingers in the air and shout what we think in a diplomatic way of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t believe anyone truly speaks their mind and even less so on line. For a start if you do its thrown back at you and its well known fact a wise man always holds his tongue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It just seems to me that those that spout about not being able to have freedom of speech are the ones that want to be the most offensive to people?"

That can't be true because I find your spouted attitude offensive. Then again, I defend your right to say it because if I don't defend your right who's going to defend mine when I need them to?

See how that works?

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

Never intentionally setting out to hurt others but sometimes I have found that stating my feelings on a subject brings scant rewards. Having said that I do have may say, although making it clear that this is just my personal _iew and not aimed at anyone in particular, just answering the question posed. Anyone is entitled to disagree with me though and I would defend their right to do so.

Mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Almost always speak my mind but use discretion and do take into account legal, and affective implications.

and often gets you on the naughty step for 24hours lol"
..... Been there twice so yeah always speak my mind.

* crEepS rOunD grAvEyaRd *

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it that when I hear the term freedom of speech I can only think about inciting hatred?

It just seems to me that those that spout about not being able to have freedom of speech are the ones that want to be the most offensive to people?

"

Indeed! The same people will also harp on about "pc gone mad" as it frustrates them their venomous bile is curtailed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If one doesn't police one's freedom to speak freely one will usually find it policed by someone else and then one cannot speak as freely as one might have previously enjoyed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It just seems to me that those that spout about not being able to have freedom of speech are the ones that want to be the most offensive to people?

That can't be true because I find your spouted attitude offensive. Then again, I defend your right to say it because if I don't defend your right who's going to defend mine when I need them to?

See how that works?"

It doesn't though. First thoughts in someones mind are often offensive to others so someone will tailor and modify their thoughts before making them public for fear of backlash or negative response. You will find innocents, people of low mental capacity are the only ones who come near to speaking their mind.

How often have adults laughed at what a child has said or asked. With wisdom we think before we speak and the innocence of youth is lost.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall


"Indeed! The same people will also harp on about "pc gone mad" as it frustrates them their venomous bile is curtailed!"

Get off the fence and say what you really think......

Mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How often have adults laughed at what a child has said or asked. With wisdom we think before we speak and the innocence of youth is lost. "

from The King James Bible:

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

~

To be taken seriously you have to speak with conviction whilst fully aware that the words you utter will not be received well by all those who hear them.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I have my own thoughts and opinions on everything but i also know that people dont share my _iew of the world. Although i may put my point across strongly i would never try and convince someone my opinions are better than anyone elses.

I never intentionally go out my way to offend people although some will be offended. You can only offend those that wish to be offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i always speak my mind with total honesty when asked but always state that it's my own opinion.

i don't believe in being PC just honest and open and tactful (sometimes)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Freedom of speech to me is not being stopped from discussing issues that affect the whole community I live in, in my case the UK. I expect to be able to protest against things those in power want to do to bring about change and not be placed under house arrest or suppressed in any way for having these thoughts.

I do not think freedom of speech evolved to allow you to slag off any other individual or comment on their opinions in a derogatory way or make them feel railroaded or small.

This is where people who 'speak their mind' seem to get a bit foggy and add 'Its my right to speak as I feel'. Ok you may have that right but you also have the diplomacy to think about what good your opinions are going to do, what harm they might cause and also the power to just keep things to yourself when you know its going to start a riot because of its controversy. Be it commenting on the colour of someones new hairdo or the way they bring up their children.

Being controversial and vocal with it shows a form of intelligence - enough to know you're celver enough to realise causing upset and all of its implications, mostly to an individual. That to me is not freedom of speech its a form of supression, so quite the opposite, I think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have my own thoughts and opinions on everything but i also know that people dont share my _iew of the world. Although i may put my point across strongly i would never try and convince someone my opinions are better than anyone elses.

I never intentionally go out my way to offend people although some will be offended. You can only offend those that wish to be offended."

Well said you are pretty much on the ball with that.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

yes, I say it the way I think it is.

mostly correctly,,,

note.. I think it is and mostly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't wish to be offended - why would anyone want that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Freedom to me means the ability to make your own choices.

If your not free others make the choices for you and are therefore responsible for the outcome.

If you are able to make your own choices then you and only you are responsible for those choices.

Freedom makes responsibility a personal thing as opposed to a group or collective thing.

Free speech to me means 'self responsible' speech.

Responsibility (in this context) means having a duty or obligation to uphold standards that are 'bigger' than the individual, that are acceptable to the wider community.

If your responsible for anything then your accountable.

I am always therefore surprised that when a person insults, offends or incites hatred they ever feel it acceptable to seek refuge behind the banner of freedom of speech.

Very few people defend their 'right' to be offensive, to be ignorant, it's easier to close their mind to responsibility, have their say and then hide behind 'freedom of speech'.

I've always been a supporter of freedom of speech, but as I've got older I realise more and more that it is actually 'responsible speech' that I support.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"

I've always been a supporter of freedom of speech, but as I've got older I realise more and more that it is actually 'responsible speech' that I support. "

love this quote

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

glad blackspice got there before me...

I will defend someones right to freedom of speech... however with freedom of speech comes a sense of responsability to use it wisely... also with it should come a sense of the consequence of those words and that others may use there freedom of speech to make their _iews known...

there was something someone said 2 days ago on here that really made me think about this... it was shocking to me, and i am glad i got in and said what i did before it was closed....

mind you I suppose freedom of speech in a way is one of the things that get you to know the inner workings of people

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"

mind you I suppose freedom of speech in a way is one of the things that get you to know the inner workings of people"

it does exactly that.. and that is why what people say over a period of time rather than in once in isolation is valuable.

goes to honesty & credibility.

and at the end of the day.... I kinda want to have sex with people I have established hold these qualities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite often i keep my own council online. After all its not real on here, you cannot see peoples facial expressions so you don't always pick up on what they mean. Often people struggle to express themselves as well because not everyone is articulate. I guess what i am saying is freedom of expression is good but having the choice not to comment on something is equally good too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thank you all for your contributions, enjoyed reading them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Quite often i keep my own council online. After all its not real on here, you cannot see peoples facial expressions so you don't always pick up on what they mean. Often people struggle to express themselves as well because not everyone is articulate. I guess what i am saying is freedom of expression is good but having the choice not to comment on something is equally good too. "

I enjoy looking at your cock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always speak my mind, the words I would use are normally tailored to suit the recipient, unless I am really angry!

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By *opeye-OliveCouple
over a year ago

worcester

P - speaks his mind far too much, and is starting to get a bad reputation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My pie slice is from the same pie as mushroom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Okay fair enough.... but...I fully understand that the M stands for mother in the acronym MILF - but the only people qualified to call you mother are your offspring - any association of your lovely children and sex is just offensive in my eyes. Its not a word to be bandied about sexually. MILF is ok but motherfucker is a pretty harsh insult. Both are equal in my book.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Okay fair enough.... but...I fully understand that the M stands for mother in the acronym MILF - but the only people qualified to call you mother are your offspring - any association of your lovely children and sex is just offensive in my eyes. Its not a word to be bandied about sexually. MILF is ok but motherfucker is a pretty harsh insult. Both are equal in my book."

It has to be MILF cos if you changed the 'Mother' bit to 'Woman' there are few straight men who would be interested in poking a WILF.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"Okay fair enough.... but...I fully understand that the M stands for mother in the acronym MILF - but the only people qualified to call you mother are your offspring - any association of your lovely children and sex is just offensive in my eyes. Its not a word to be bandied about sexually. MILF is ok but motherfucker is a pretty harsh insult. Both are equal in my book."

Weird. Just weird. And it's precisely this reasoning that get's people barred.

WTF do you have to say to ONLY get 24 hrs- Boo?

The point about MILF, which was missed, is that i am perfectly correct in saying that Ms ***** at No 16 is a MILF, i really would.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Okay fair enough.... but...I fully understand that the M stands for mother in the acronym MILF - but the only people qualified to call you mother are your offspring - any association of your lovely children and sex is just offensive in my eyes. Its not a word to be bandied about sexually. MILF is ok but motherfucker is a pretty harsh insult. Both are equal in my book.

Weird. Just weird. And it's precisely this reasoning that get's people barred.

WTF do you have to say to ONLY get 24 hrs- Boo?

The point about MILF, which was missed, is that i am perfectly correct in saying that Ms ***** at No 16 is a MILF, i really would. "

I get barred for feeling repugnance at the thought of men calling me a mother in an acronym? MILF between kids and their peers is acceptable - along with all of the other infantile immature teenagers do as they live and learn. A grown man on a sex website looking for a milf is pathetic. Same as grown men and women using teenage text speak. I have had men in their forties looking for milf in my direction..... I assume they must be right into June Whitfield. Its an acronym aimed at women and not a lot of women like the label - same as cougar etc etc. My opinion. You dont have to accept it - but you dont have to bay for me to be banned. Thats plain censorship - as well as plain stupid.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Weird. But fascinating.

Why should grown men on a sex site rule out wanting Mothers. I suspect a high proportion of women on here are mothers?

And why should grown men, in their forties or indeed any age, be "into June Whitfield"?

Are your personal prejudices allowing you to disparage mothers of all ages, from say 18 to 70 perhaps? Is a 35 yer old mother, for example, not worthy?

What is a reasonable upper age limit?

Where am i baying for you to be banned or indeed to be censored? Please enlighten me with fact. Probably best in PM if you wish.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

No such thing as totally free speach...if you offend someone in the process your liable to get nicked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Weird. But fascinating.

Why should grown men on a sex site rule out wanting Mothers. I suspect a high proportion of women on here are mothers?

And why should grown men, in their forties or indeed any age, be "into June Whitfield"?

Are your personal prejudices allowing you to disparage mothers of all ages, from say 18 to 70 perhaps? Is a 35 yer old mother, for example, not worthy?

What is a reasonable upper age limit?

Where am i baying for you to be banned or indeed to be censored? Please enlighten me with fact. Probably best in PM if you wish.

"

Because the history of the MILF is an expression by horny teenagers who are sexually aware that their mates mother is worth a fuck. It is an expression for their p[eer group and is dismissed as 'their thing'. Most of all its used as a wind up to annoy the child of the fancied mother. It has its place in their culture - it makes me cringe that its adopted by grown men well out of their teens who should be in my opinion a little bit above teenage tittivation. If in the context of the culture it was established in a man in his forties says to his mate in his forties I dont half fancy your mother and addresses her as MILF then the mother in question is not a woman of my age is it? So to have a man in MY peer group requesting a MILF fantasy therefore is laughable. I expect to meet men on this site who have grown up - not adopted teenage culture as this is very offputting and yeah - offensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Okay fair enough.... but...I fully understand that the M stands for mother in the acronym MILF - but the only people qualified to call you mother are your offspring - any association of your lovely children and sex is just offensive in my eyes. Its not a word to be bandied about sexually. MILF is ok but motherfucker is a pretty harsh insult. Both are equal in my book.

It has to be MILF cos if you changed the 'Mother' bit to 'Woman' there are few straight men who would be interested in poking a WILF. "

I have a friend on this site who only ever calls me Wilf after I pointed out to him thats all I should be to a grown man..... thats our private in joke but nice to see another person seeing it that way apart from me xx

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