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"thingy osbourne can't remember his name!ozzy" ah thanks had a complete mental block there | |||
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"thingy osbourne can't remember his name!ozzy ah thanks had a complete mental block there " Soooooooooo which one ? | |||
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"thingy osbourne can't remember his name!ozzy ah thanks had a complete mental block there Soooooooooo which one ?" Ozzy | |||
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"thingy osbourne can't remember his name!ozzy ah thanks had a complete mental block there Soooooooooo which one ? Ozzy " Ozzy is cool | |||
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"thingy osbourne can't remember his name!ozzy ah thanks had a complete mental block there Soooooooooo which one ? Ozzy " Ahhhhhhh can sleep now | |||
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"thingy osbourne can't remember his name!ozzy ah thanks had a complete mental block there Soooooooooo which one ? Ozzy Ozzy is cool " I love him but his music makes my ears bleed! | |||
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"thingy osbourne can't remember his name!ozzy ah thanks had a complete mental block there Soooooooooo which one ? Ozzy Ozzy is cool I love him but his music makes my ears bleed!" As a musician he is terrible but the comedy factor is classic. He also does a fine kipper tie. | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated " You mates are right as far as I'm concerned, but hey ho that's just my opinion. | |||
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"sorry your dead rong u2 is not over rated there just a classic band that no how to play music " Here here, brilliant band | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated " When I saw the title of this thread ALL of the above sprang to mind! I'd also add Queen and Michael Jackson! | |||
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"Michael Buble Sting / Police The Beatles" U2, not so much a band as an ego and a delay pedal - truly fucking ordinary.... The Beatles - the world's luckiest pub band with Liverpool's answer to Andrew Lloyd Webber on bass... Michael Buble - ughhhhhh..... Cheryl Cole - the world's luckiest Woolworth's shop girl.... Oh, and Michael Jackson - complete wank except when Quincy Jones and Rod Templeton saved him from himself.... The Sex Pistols - a Bad Company tribute band with Old Man Steptoe on lead vocals... People should lay off Mick Hucknall now he's resigned from News international.... | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated " +1 here, as well as Elton John | |||
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"Michael Buble Sting / Police The Beatles U2, not so much a band as an ego and a delay pedal - truly fucking ordinary.... The Beatles - the world's luckiest pub band with Liverpool's answer to Andrew Lloyd Webber on bass... Michael Buble - ughhhhhh..... Cheryl Cole - the world's luckiest Woolworth's shop girl.... Oh, and Michael Jackson - complete wank except when Quincy Jones and Rod Templeton saved him from himself.... The Sex Pistols - a Bad Company tribute band with Old Man Steptoe on lead vocals... People should lay off Mick Hucknall now he's resigned from News international...." ha ha ha ha!!! spot on! LOVE the concise and accurate description of U2, but gotta take exception to The Beatles. Love 'em, just cant stand that plasticene-faced twee McCartney fella with his child-like lyrics and the well of bland music he's been tapping into since Lennon was killed | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated When I saw the title of this thread ALL of the above sprang to mind! I'd also add Queen and Michael Jackson! " Agree , add Bon Jobby and Take Twat and we're getting there | |||
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"Could never figure out the "thing" with wacko jacko.... crutch grabbing and saying owww isnt my idea of dance and his music was so over rated. But thats me.... " Dam, Ive based my nightclub pulling technique on crutch grabbing and the girls saying Oww | |||
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"Could never figure out the "thing" with wacko jacko.... crutch grabbing and saying owww isnt my idea of dance and his music was so over rated. But thats me.... " ...and me! | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated " overrated for you but if they are "legends" its because many many peeps disagree with you otherwise they would not be legends? | |||
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"John Lennon shocking quote the man is a genius!" Agree with you! Someone else on here called Paul McCartney "dull". Amazing, how he and John Lennon are one of the most successful musical partnerships of all time. The two of them were geniuses! | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated overrated for you but if they are "legends" its because many many peeps disagree with you otherwise they would not be legends?" I do think that all the above have written, produced and performed SOME noteable songs. But do those songs take them to 'music legend' status ? Their success I believe has been driven more by good timing, a public desire for change, good PR and marketing and in two cases large amounts of sentimentality rather than their musical abilities. So are they really legendary or do we just believe them to be on the back of a few good songs and what a well oiled media machine telling us that they are ? | |||
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"Trendsetters get elevated to legend status. " but should they then be classed as cultural legends as opposed to musical legends then ? i am not doubting any of your thoughts and actually do agree with you on most did their music start the trend ? feed the trend ? or perhaps more cynically was it a bi product of the trend and some very skillful marketing ? | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated overrated for you but if they are "legends" its because many many peeps disagree with you otherwise they would not be legends? I do think that all the above have written, produced and performed SOME noteable songs. But do those songs take them to 'music legend' status ? Their success I believe has been driven more by good timing, a public desire for change, good PR and marketing and in two cases large amounts of sentimentality rather than their musical abilities. So are they really legendary or do we just believe them to be on the back of a few good songs and what a well oiled media machine telling us that they are ?" You are mostly right as people tend to be "followers". However, I do think that we also have our own "personal legends". How is legendary status evaluated? Does anyone know? | |||
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"Trendsetters get elevated to legend status. but should they then be classed as cultural legends as opposed to musical legends then ? i am not doubting any of your thoughts and actually do agree with you on most did their music start the trend ? feed the trend ? or perhaps more cynically was it a bi product of the trend and some very skillful marketing ?" In my _iew they are very much cultural legends. There names will be imprinted on the world for evermore. No question about it. Spin Doctoring, Marketing, PR'ing, call it what you like, but these people have been there and have done. The very fact we are talking about them is all you need to accept | |||
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"How is legendary status evaluated? Does anyone know?" I think the definition of legend in this context is as follows : 'A romanticised or popularised myth of modern times' To me, suggesting that it is a 'romantic' idea combined by with the marketing / media machine that elevates someone to legend status - not the quality of their music So again they may be perceived as cultural legends but not musical ones ? | |||
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"Michael Buble Sting / Police The Beatles U2, not so much a band as an ego and a delay pedal - truly fucking ordinary.... The Beatles - the world's luckiest pub band with Liverpool's answer to Andrew Lloyd Webber on bass... Michael Buble - ughhhhhh..... Cheryl Cole - the world's luckiest Woolworth's shop girl.... Oh, and Michael Jackson - complete wank except when Quincy Jones and Rod Templeton saved him from himself.... The Sex Pistols - a Bad Company tribute band with Old Man Steptoe on lead vocals... People should lay off Mick Hucknall now he's resigned from News international.... ha ha ha ha!!! spot on! LOVE the concise and accurate description of U2, but gotta take exception to The Beatles. Love 'em, just cant stand that plasticene-faced twee McCartney fella with his child-like lyrics and the well of bland music he's been tapping into since Lennon was killed " With you on that,the rest is 100% but the Beatles are legend by any definition of the word. i would add Phil fucking collins to the list. | |||
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"The very fact we are talking about them is all you need to accept " Oh, I do accept it - it is one of them discussions that has no real definitive answer and I realised that from the outset. It's just been one of them discussions I have had numerous times with friends and thought it'd be an interesting topic to put to the wider forum | |||
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"How is legendary status evaluated? Does anyone know? I think the definition of legend in this context is as follows : 'A romanticised or popularised myth of modern times' To me, suggesting that it is a 'romantic' idea combined by with the marketing / media machine that elevates someone to legend status - not the quality of their music So again they may be perceived as cultural legends but not musical ones ?" but they are surely a subset of cultural, as is legends of the music culture? Culture covers so much. | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. " some 1 dose not like rock music | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. some 1 dose not like rock music" "Metal" isn't music. It's just a fucking loud noise Might as well listen to a dustbin falling down stairs | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. some 1 dose not like rock music "Metal" isn't music. It's just a fucking loud noise Might as well listen to a dustbin falling down stairs " hehehehe | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. some 1 dose not like rock music "Metal" isn't music. It's just a fucking loud noise Might as well listen to a dustbin falling down stairs " thats were yer wrong, there is more metal bands out there than there is n pop music, hence of the festivals | |||
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"Might as well listen to a dustbin falling down stairs " That's still music. | |||
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"it is all subjective, you cannot define music, what sounds fantastic to one person another will hate. Hence you cannot also desine a musical legend, its all down to personal taste, one persons legend, is someone elses hate. As responses to this thread prove " yup - hence why to me, it is the media and the PR machine who essentially define 'the legends' and individuals either buy into it or they don't i don't hate any of the acts i mentioned initially, i just don't believe on their music alone they deserve 'legend' status. as part of a wider cultural movement, maybe ?! | |||
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"it is all subjective, you cannot define music, what sounds fantastic to one person another will hate. Hence you cannot also desine a musical legend, its all down to personal taste, one persons legend, is someone elses hate. As responses to this thread prove " totally agree with you | |||
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"Ken Dodd has a beautiful singing voice though." I so agree with that... I do like listening to the odd song. | |||
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". Bands like The Beatles ... were at the forefront and deserve their status " The 'problem' I have with The Beatles is that in spite of (to me) excellent songs like 'In My Life' , there was so much bilge pumped out too that (again, to me) kinda counteracted some of their better works. | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. " Iron Maiden overrated? By Whom?? A band thats been ignored by the media for 30 years yet still sell out tours WORLDWIDE on an average of a tour every 2 years? Grrrr! | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. Iron Maiden overrated? By Whom?? A band thats been ignored by the media for 30 years yet still sell out tours WORLDWIDE on an average of a tour every 2 years? Grrrr! " cant wait 2 see em tomorrow night at glasgow secc | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. Iron Maiden overrated? By Whom?? A band thats been ignored by the media for 30 years yet still sell out tours WORLDWIDE on an average of a tour every 2 years? Grrrr! cant wait 2 see em tomorrow night at glasgow secc" Manchester next Thursday for moi - enjoy!! | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. Iron Maiden overrated? By Whom?? A band thats been ignored by the media for 30 years yet still sell out tours WORLDWIDE on an average of a tour every 2 years? Grrrr! cant wait 2 see em tomorrow night at glasgow secc Manchester next Thursday for moi - enjoy!! " I attend to,an buying there tour tee shirt an wear on cam on thursday | |||
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"Lady Gaga hahaha yes an yes an a big yes" And i thought i was the only one who didn't get him | |||
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"Beatles, U2 (bono is a cock, official from his roadies!!) The Stones!!" think thata a bit out of order | |||
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"Beatles, U2 (bono is a cock, official from his roadies!!) The Stones!!" forgot Elvis, complete shite!! | |||
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"Beatles, U2 (bono is a cock, official from his roadies!!) The Stones!!think thata a bit out of order" no its not, how can the truth be out of order if he wants to stop world debt sell all his assets and give them away!! | |||
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"Pink Floyd.......I don't get them I sometimes think that we force ourselves to understand or like some music as at the time its cool to do that and if you ain't in the gang then you're nothing but square man!" ha! spot on! pseudo-intellectual twaddle, like radiohead.... and dont get me started on genesis and phil collins - pretentious AND bland, quite an achievement, although Brian Eno managed to hide his light under a bushell until he ditched the makeweights and went solo. And as for my earlier McCartney grumble..... his good work came when it was tempered or enhanced by working with Lennon. As soon as they went their separate ways, it all went wrong. I present Wings as first exhibit for the prosecution m'lud...... | |||
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"would be interesting to see this thread in say 10 yrs time and see how many groups,solo artists from todays singers will be regarded as legends.my thoughts would be none " I think GaGa would probably pop up Can't be doin with her meself but I can see she will go that way. (these crystal balls are amazing haha) | |||
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"would be interesting to see this thread in say 10 yrs time and see how many groups,solo artists from todays singers will be regarded as legends.my thoughts would be none I think GaGa would probably pop up Can't be doin with her meself but I can see she will go that way. (these crystal balls are amazing haha)" i dont get her either just reminds me of a jordon of the pop world .oh look at me world i'm completely whacky i will do anything to get attention even though i have no talent whatsoever.she will fade away in time and will quickly be forgoton | |||
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"as an aside i am feelin all mellow (and old) today so have got smooth fm on in the office they have just played sam cooke's 'a change is gonna come' that song just sends me " I just listened to Seal's version of that! I think a great song can sound great no matter who sings it... Unlike loads of modern day covers! | |||
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"Could never figure out the "thing" with wacko jacko.... crutch grabbing and saying owww isnt my idea of dance and his music was so over rated. But thats me.... " +1 And remember..... all his music in the last two decades of his life sounded exactly the bloody same. Can we also add Phil "I dumped my wife by fax" Collins to the list. Talentless arse ! | |||
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"Cliff Richard only makes 1 single at xmas Neil diamond, Micheal Jackson, George Micheal, Oasis" not disagreeing... we are all different, but having seen George Michael live... he was stunning. Am not a huge fan, but one of the best I have seen. His voice was fantastic | |||
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"well done guys. that's us wiped out,over 60 years of music on one thread. there's only val doonican,and des o connor,left. i'm not going to the disco,with you lot. " meet ya at Bennetts.. used to be a good night on a Tuesday.. | |||
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"Susan Boyle and Jedward are both hugely overrated...aren't they? " saw jedward on bbc1 this morn very wierd and hugely annoying but in an enviroment where being talentless like jordon,kerry kationa etc brings huge reward they will do well | |||
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"well done guys. that's us wiped out,over 60 years of music on one thread. there's only val doonican,and des o connor,left. i'm not going to the disco,with you lot. meet ya at Bennetts.. used to be a good night on a Tuesday.. " can we still wear,bell bottoms,and platforms. | |||
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"well done guys. that's us wiped out,over 60 years of music on one thread. there's only val doonican,and des o connor,left. i'm not going to the disco,with you lot. meet ya at Bennetts.. used to be a good night on a Tuesday.. can we still wear,bell bottoms,and platforms. " yes but make no reference to bottoms there... yu is warned | |||
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"well done guys. that's us wiped out,over 60 years of music on one thread. there's only val doonican,and des o connor,left. i'm not going to the disco,with you lot. meet ya at Bennetts.. used to be a good night on a Tuesday.. can we still wear,bell bottoms,and platforms. yes but make no reference to bottoms there... yu is warned" | |||
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"Susan Boyle and Jedward are both hugely overrated...aren't they? " Susan boyle...well its not about her choice of songs etc etc...its actually her voice...swear to it, i had some tears the first time i heard what all the fuss was about, Im a non music lover, but u cant beat an emotive vocal delete jedward from...er.....existence lol | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, " 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though... | |||
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"I think it's hillarious. The title of the thread is over rated LEGENDS and some people have said Take That and the Spice Girls!!! Legends??? *Her*" Her? legends | |||
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"I think it's hillarious. The title of the thread is over rated LEGENDS and some people have said Take That and the Spice Girls!!! Legends??? *Her*" lol unfortunately, u cant decide who is a legend can u??? Take That, well they pretty much are legends of boyband world no????? | |||
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"Ken Dodd has a beautiful singing voice though. I so agree with that... I do like listening to the odd song." "Odd" being the operative word! | |||
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"Ken Dodd has a beautiful singing voice though. I so agree with that... I do like listening to the odd song. "Odd" being the operative word! " | |||
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"Ken Dodd has a beautiful singing voice though. I so agree with that... I do like listening to the odd song. "Odd" being the operative word! " Well he does bring tears to my eyes. Bloody hell diamonds quick tonight | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though..." OK, some more... The Rolling Stones - regularly shit since 1972... Led Zeppelin - blues for people with nothing to be miserable about and folk for people who never leave their hotel rooms... Oh, and the all time truly nauseating undeserved legend. If I ever catch up with the stupid bastard who shot John Lenno I'll cut his bollocks off for saving Lennon from exposing himself as the self centred, narcissistic heap of wank he was. Singing Imagine in public should be a capital offence in any civilized country, and any man who could live with Yoko Ono without pointing out that she the artistic depth of a yak fart deserves to spend the rest of his life at the Ayatollah Khomeini Memorial Reformatory for terminal wankers....... | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though... OK, some more... The Rolling Stones - regularly shit since 1972... Led Zeppelin - blues for people with nothing to be miserable about and folk for people who never leave their hotel rooms... Oh, and the all time truly nauseating undeserved legend. If I ever catch up with the stupid bastard who shot John Lenno I'll cut his bollocks off for saving Lennon from exposing himself as the self centred, narcissistic heap of wank he was. Singing Imagine in public should be a capital offence in any civilized country, and any man who could live with Yoko Ono without pointing out that she the artistic depth of a yak fart deserves to spend the rest of his life at the Ayatollah Khomeini Memorial Reformatory for terminal wankers......." So.... you don't like him then? | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though... OK, some more... The Rolling Stones - regularly shit since 1972... Led Zeppelin - blues for people with nothing to be miserable about and folk for people who never leave their hotel rooms... Oh, and the all time truly nauseating undeserved legend. If I ever catch up with the stupid bastard who shot John Lenno I'll cut his bollocks off for saving Lennon from exposing himself as the self centred, narcissistic heap of wank he was. Singing Imagine in public should be a capital offence in any civilized country, and any man who could live with Yoko Ono without pointing out that she the artistic depth of a yak fart deserves to spend the rest of his life at the Ayatollah Khomeini Memorial Reformatory for terminal wankers....... So.... you don't like him then? " But he did put it so eloquently lol | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though... OK, some more... The Rolling Stones - regularly shit since 1972... Led Zeppelin - blues for people with nothing to be miserable about and folk for people who never leave their hotel rooms... Oh, and the all time truly nauseating undeserved legend. If I ever catch up with the stupid bastard who shot John Lenno I'll cut his bollocks off for saving Lennon from exposing himself as the self centred, narcissistic heap of wank he was. Singing Imagine in public should be a capital offence in any civilized country, and any man who could live with Yoko Ono without pointing out that she the artistic depth of a yak fart deserves to spend the rest of his life at the Ayatollah Khomeini Memorial Reformatory for terminal wankers......." can i ask who you listen to as you appear to be deaf .its one thing not liking some singers but to call them crap when they have achieved so much in the music world is ridiculas | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though... OK, some more... The Rolling Stones - regularly shit since 1972... Led Zeppelin - blues for people with nothing to be miserable about and folk for people who never leave their hotel rooms... Oh, and the all time truly nauseating undeserved legend. If I ever catch up with the stupid bastard who shot John Lenno I'll cut his bollocks off for saving Lennon from exposing himself as the self centred, narcissistic heap of wank he was. Singing Imagine in public should be a capital offence in any civilized country, and any man who could live with Yoko Ono without pointing out that she the artistic depth of a yak fart deserves to spend the rest of his life at the Ayatollah Khomeini Memorial Reformatory for terminal wankers....... can i ask who you listen to as you appear to be deaf .its one thing not liking some singers but to call them crap when they have achieved so much in the music world is ridiculas" PJ and Duncan perhaps, lol | |||
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"I think it's hillarious. The title of the thread is over rated LEGENDS and some people have said Take That and the Spice Girls!!! Legends??? *Her*" I think many have got hold of wrong end of stick as Lady (been around five monutes) Ga Ga has been mentioned too! | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though... OK, some more... The Rolling Stones - regularly shit since 1972... Led Zeppelin - blues for people with nothing to be miserable about and folk for people who never leave their hotel rooms... Oh, and the all time truly nauseating undeserved legend. If I ever catch up with the stupid bastard who shot John Lenno I'll cut his bollocks off for saving Lennon from exposing himself as the self centred, narcissistic heap of wank he was. Singing Imagine in public should be a capital offence in any civilized country, and any man who could live with Yoko Ono without pointing out that she the artistic depth of a yak fart deserves to spend the rest of his life at the Ayatollah Khomeini Memorial Reformatory for terminal wankers......." Dad? | |||
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"Susan Boyle and Jedward are both hugely overrated...aren't they? Susan boyle...well its not about her choice of songs etc etc...its actually her voice...swear to it, i had some tears the first time i heard what all the fuss was about, Im a non music lover, but u cant beat an emotive vocal delete jedward from...er.....existence lol" You're right...I heard Susan Boyle singing 'Wild Horses' and it was amazing. Problem is, nothing has really been original since the late 70's (with the odd exception). By then, all forms of music had been recorded and since then everything has been 're-invented'. Most 'classic' songs were 'ripped-off' from stuff that'd gone before. 'Stairway To Heaven' was ripped off from a lounge Muzak tune...to name just one. Bob Dylan wrote poetic lyrics but was a folk singer inspired by music from the 50's. The electronica of the 80's had been done by Kraftwerk in the 70's...as well as the 'prog-rock' bands. Nothing is truly new anymore...but you can re-hash and serve up something that will be seen as 'new' by a young audience. | |||
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"Ladies and Gentleman,I give you the most overated band of all time.... Simple Minds" nah that has to be oasis. | |||
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"Iron Maiden. The only good thing was the big muppet thing on stage. " Lol, is this comment for real. And the muppet is Eddie. But hey, everyone entitled to there opinion. And we can't wait for the Manchester gig. | |||
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"Susan Boyle and Jedward are both hugely overrated...aren't they? Susan boyle...well its not about her choice of songs etc etc...its actually her voice...swear to it, i had some tears the first time i heard what all the fuss was about, Im a non music lover, but u cant beat an emotive vocal delete jedward from...er.....existence lol You're right...I heard Susan Boyle singing 'Wild Horses' and it was amazing. Problem is, nothing has really been original since the late 70's (with the odd exception). By then, all forms of music had been recorded and since then everything has been 're-invented'. Most 'classic' songs were 'ripped-off' from stuff that'd gone before. 'Stairway To Heaven' was ripped off from a lounge Muzak tune...to name just one. Bob Dylan wrote poetic lyrics but was a folk singer inspired by music from the 50's. The electronica of the 80's had been done by Kraftwerk in the 70's...as well as the 'prog-rock' bands. Nothing is truly new anymore...but you can re-hash and serve up something that will be seen as 'new' by a young audience." Susan Boyle makes me cry as well, in pain, she totally murdered "wild horses" and needs to be put into a darkened room and never let out, total trash | |||
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"This is where I usually get told I know nothing about music by my mates but : Elvis, Madonna, The Beatles and U2 are all up there for me as being over rated " At last, something we agree on! Especially if we can add Cold Play - yuk! | |||
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"it os veryeasy to tell if you have the right to call a band or musician over rated. simple test what radio station do you lisen to ie radio one no right walk away find a nuse you are a oxgen theif radio two you have more than 10 cds and not the one's on the front of the daily mail still hang your head low radio three you know wrong from right you lissen to others and chip in now and agian in music chatter at the bar. six music you were there in the day you tried to grow your hair long and nick older sibblings records to inpress other and got into them with your music bag under your arm. comercial station hope your driving your forget the brake plough into thatg tree no gr8 loss. the beatle just a band a good one but just a band. u2 just a band a good one but just a band. go to a gig a small sweaty gig stand in the middle at the back grab a beer lissen to music " can we have that in the queens english | |||
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"Susan Boyle and Jedward are both hugely overrated...aren't they? Susan boyle...well its not about her choice of songs etc etc...its actually her voice...swear to it, i had some tears the first time i heard what all the fuss was about, Im a non music lover, but u cant beat an emotive vocal delete jedward from...er.....existence lol You're right...I heard Susan Boyle singing 'Wild Horses' and it was amazing. Problem is, nothing has really been original since the late 70's (with the odd exception). By then, all forms of music had been recorded and since then everything has been 're-invented'. Most 'classic' songs were 'ripped-off' from stuff that'd gone before. 'Stairway To Heaven' was ripped off from a lounge Muzak tune...to name just one. Bob Dylan wrote poetic lyrics but was a folk singer inspired by music from the 50's. The electronica of the 80's had been done by Kraftwerk in the 70's...as well as the 'prog-rock' bands. Nothing is truly new anymore...but you can re-hash and serve up something that will be seen as 'new' by a young audience." I'm not sure Taurus, by Spirit (who I listen to regulalry) would qualify as lounge music... | |||
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"U2, Spice Girls, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springteen, 3 out of 4 ain't bad - Springsteen deserves his legend status though... OK, some more... The Rolling Stones - regularly shit since 1972... Led Zeppelin - blues for people with nothing to be miserable about and folk for people who never leave their hotel rooms... Oh, and the all time truly nauseating undeserved legend. If I ever catch up with the stupid bastard who shot John Lenno I'll cut his bollocks off for saving Lennon from exposing himself as the self centred, narcissistic heap of wank he was. Singing Imagine in public should be a capital offence in any civilized country, and any man who could live with Yoko Ono without pointing out that she the artistic depth of a yak fart deserves to spend the rest of his life at the Ayatollah Khomeini Memorial Reformatory for terminal wankers....... can i ask who you listen to as you appear to be deaf .its one thing not liking some singers but to call them crap when they have achieved so much in the music world is ridiculas" Not crap but over rated and over the hill, although it would be fair to say I think Lennon was truly, spectacularly ordinary as well as being a narcissistic twat. Today, while driving to a work appointment, I'll listen to a mix of blues (you know, played by black people), some good seventies rock, and, inspired by the people who hate Phil Collins, the only decent band he ever played in, Brand X. On a general point, the unoriginality argument is always fun, and in honour of it I'll listen to Strange Things by Sister Rosetta Tharp, which I think means I win the originality game (clue - it was the first rock and roll record...) | |||
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"I sometimes think that we force ourselves to understand or like some music as at the time its cool to do that and if you ain't in the gang then you're nothing but square man!" So true and it's usually around puberty. Suddenly pop music is for kids and the cool kids are going to school carrying albums by rock acts. It happened to me. Eventually I got over the silliness and reassessed what I liked about music an why. I was also a musician so got to know the tricks of the trade and the processes that are a mystery to the public but common to most bands. Look at the indignance when there was that autotune palaver on X Factor. Yet nobody has a problem with John Lennon double-tracking his voice to "autotune" it, or Diana Ross on all those Motown hits, or George Michael, or anybody else who cheated in the recording studio, then sprinkled studio fairy dust all over their product before it was ready for manufacture and marketing. | |||
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"I sometimes think that we force ourselves to understand or like some music as at the time its cool to do that and if you ain't in the gang then you're nothing but square man! So true and it's usually around puberty. Suddenly pop music is for kids and the cool kids are going to school carrying albums by rock acts. It happened to me. Eventually I got over the silliness and reassessed what I liked about music an why. I was also a musician so got to know the tricks of the trade and the processes that are a mystery to the public but common to most bands. Look at the indignance when there was that autotune palaver on X Factor. Yet nobody has a problem with John Lennon double-tracking his voice to "autotune" it, or Diana Ross on all those Motown hits, or George Michael, or anybody else who cheated in the recording studio, then sprinkled studio fairy dust all over their product before it was ready for manufacture and marketing." Double tracking is not the same as autotune. Double tracking was invented by Les Paul - listen to his recordings with Mary Ford and you'll hear he is perfectly in tune on every line. Indeed, his requirements for a solid body guitar sprang in part from the need for it to be reliably in tune all the time (when double tracking) and to have low noise levels (via humbucking pickups from 1957) so that noise levels weren't too high. Double tracking enables all sorts of clever stunts - Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells is a seminal example, and no-one ever accused Oldfield of being tone deaf. Autotune fixes it when players can't play or sing in tune. So some tuneless X Factor muppet (yes, Cher, and Cheryl, Matt, and all the rest of you, I'm looking at you) sings like a complete shambles, and gets it fixed by someone with a keyboard and a frequency analyzer.... | |||
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"I sometimes think that we force ourselves to understand or like some music as at the time its cool to do that and if you ain't in the gang then you're nothing but square man! So true and it's usually around puberty. Suddenly pop music is for kids and the cool kids are going to school carrying albums by rock acts. It happened to me. Eventually I got over the silliness and reassessed what I liked about music an why. I was also a musician so got to know the tricks of the trade and the processes that are a mystery to the public but common to most bands. Look at the indignance when there was that autotune palaver on X Factor. Yet nobody has a problem with John Lennon double-tracking his voice to "autotune" it, or Diana Ross on all those Motown hits, or George Michael, or anybody else who cheated in the recording studio, then sprinkled studio fairy dust all over their product before it was ready for manufacture and marketing. Double tracking is not the same as autotune. Double tracking was invented by Les Paul - listen to his recordings with Mary Ford and you'll hear he is perfectly in tune on every line. Indeed, his requirements for a solid body guitar sprang in part from the need for it to be reliably in tune all the time (when double tracking) and to have low noise levels (via humbucking pickups from 1957) so that noise levels weren't too high. Double tracking enables all sorts of clever stunts - Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells is a seminal example, and no-one ever accused Oldfield of being tone deaf. Autotune fixes it when players can't play or sing in tune. So some tuneless X Factor muppet (yes, Cher, and Cheryl, Matt, and all the rest of you, I'm looking at you) sings like a complete shambles, and gets it fixed by someone with a keyboard and a frequency analyzer...." Bowie often doubles tracks his voice in different keys. Was also one of the first to use a gate on a snare drum. When Robert Fripp played guitar on 'Heroes' he was asked to just go in the booth and play something without any info,it was recorded and the tape cut up and reassembled. Boys keep swinging was recorded with the band members playing the wrong instruments. To be fair tho a lot of the credit has to go to Tony Visconti, Brian Eno and Carlos Alomar | |||
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