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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Before I start this thread I will just point out that I am NOT suicidal.

This has been a real thought provoking week with the dead of Ian Brady. The alleged murder of a local mother and just today the death of a friend of mine via a massive heart attack. All this has left me questioning life and why are we here. I love my life now and I'm very happy but what happens if when we die there is just nothing. That's it. Ziltch. Blackness. Emptiness. Forever. What would of been the point. Yes I've procreated and done my bit for the human race. But one day my girls will die. What then. What if I haddent had children. My friend didn't have children. Does that mean her life was worth nothing. I hope that we do all come back to live a new life. To maybe put right any wrongs we have done. I hope that life is like a ladder and each life we either climb up a bit or climb down a bit until we get life right. Yes that's what I think cos my head just can't get round the fact that there's nothing after death. N I don't believe in God so for me there's no utopia. There's just the gift of life and we have to choose how we spend it. I kind feel a bit tamtrummy over it all tbh. There can't be just nothing. That would be so wrong there would be no point to life. There has to be a purpose n a reason why we are here n why earth is here. Life and earth are too beautiful to simply just turn to blackness when we die.

PTU xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi PTU,

I'm so sorry for your losses close to home. I don't know the answer to your post, but I wanted to send you a ((hug)) anyway.

Also, thank you for clarifying your opening sentence, I think that is really useful for people to know how to respond, because I think it's so important that we take note if someone posts on the forum anything that could indicate that they are struggling and treat it sensitively and with compassion.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

If there is only blackness after what came before?

Nobody knows what happens when you die. The point of life is to live it the best way you can and do the least harm.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Also I'm sorry to hear about your friend. When someone dies it does bring all sorts of questions to the surface.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sorry to hear about your friend PTU.

I think there is nothing after death. That doesn't mean life is pointless though. Everyone makes a difference to someone at some point in their life, Look at someone who donates bone marrow and saves a life, those who donate blood regularly to save lives.

It could even be unknowingly, you missed a crash by 10 seconds because you were late to pick up a friend and that meant they were safe too. You've taken part in a clinical trial that's ultimately helped create a new wonder drug. We all have some impact. Well I think we do anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If there is only blackness after what came before?

Nobody knows what happens when you die. The point of life is to live it the best way you can and do the least harm."

Yes that's what worries me. Because we don't remember before we were born or in my case what I was doing yesterday lol. That means the chances are high that there is nothing once we die. I don't want there to be nothing. I suppose I want life to continue as it is forever cos I love life so much n hate it when people die. It's such a waste. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hi PTU,

I'm so sorry for your losses close to home. I don't know the answer to your post, but I wanted to send you a ((hug)) anyway.

Also, thank you for clarifying your opening sentence, I think that is really useful for people to know how to respond, because I think it's so important that we take note if someone posts on the forum anything that could indicate that they are struggling and treat it sensitively and with compassion. "

Yes I though I'd best putting that because my thoughts could be construed as suicidal thoughts. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A part of me likes to think that when our eyes close for that one last time we are surrounded and greeted, somewhere, by those who we loved and who made us laugh, but who have already passed on.

I have no idea what really happens, but the aforementioned makes the thought of death that little bit less intimidating to me, so i choose to believe that.

Sorry for your loss PTU xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm sorry to hear about your friend PTU.

I think there is nothing after death. That doesn't mean life is pointless though. Everyone makes a difference to someone at some point in their life, Look at someone who donates bone marrow and saves a life, those who donate blood regularly to save lives.

It could even be unknowingly, you missed a crash by 10 seconds because you were late to pick up a friend and that meant they were safe too. You've taken part in a clinical trial that's ultimately helped create a new wonder drug. We all have some impact. Well I think we do anyway. "

Yes I can see that. I have done some amazing things in my life as everyone has. I suppose life is so tuff sometimes and may be there is just nothing cos we will be too dam knackered after life to do any thing. xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A part of me likes to think that when our eyes close for that one last time we are surrounded and greeted, somewhere, by those who we loved and who made us laugh, but who have already passed on.

I have no idea what really happens, but the aforementioned makes the thought of death that little bit less intimidating to me, so i choose to believe that.

Sorry for your loss PTU xx"

Yes that would be nice to see our loved ones again. But wouldn't it be crowded. We die in order for others to live so if we all go somewhere like heaven then it would have to be infanate. Also heaven can't be up there cos I've been up there on a plane and all there is are marshmallows. xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You won't know that there is blackness. In order for you to understand that there is blackness, your brain needs to be functioning, since your dead it can't do that.

It shows complete ignorance that we as a species can't accept that there isn't an after life, that there must be something else. Which I for one don't believe there is.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You won't know that there is blackness. In order for you to understand that there is blackness, your brain needs to be functioning, since your dead it can't do that.

It shows complete ignorance that we as a species can't accept that there isn't an after life, that there must be something else. Which I for one don't believe there is.

"

I don't think it shows ignorance at all. For me it shows how much I appreciate life and that I want it to continue. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there is nothing other than blackness then the purpose of being here is to do what makes you happy, to be what you want to be, go where you want.. do what you want... Be someone people will remember.

I can't imagine losing a friend is ever easy.. I'd hope I'd remember the good and allow an occasional smile to appear in their memory though. In that way they are still around.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Self entitlement then, what makes us as a species think we are entitled to something beyond mortality?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I have really strong beliefs. To tired and to long to type but they hive me a reason for being

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If there is nothing other than blackness then the purpose of being here is to do what makes you happy, to be what you want to be, go where you want.. do what you want... Be someone people will remember.

I can't imagine losing a friend is ever easy.. I'd hope I'd remember the good and allow an occasional smile to appear in their memory though. In that way they are still around. "

Yes that's it. I suppose because I'm happy that's why I don't want to leave this life. But mortality is been thrust appon me atm. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Self entitlement then, what makes us as a species think we are entitled to something beyond mortality? "

I think it's a natural feeling not wanting something to end when your enjoying it so much. X

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I wear my grandmothers rings, we use some of my grandfather's stuff weekly and I always remember them through those things. Our son follows the same profession as my grandfather and uses some of his books. I think thats the way we live on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have really strong beliefs. To tired and to long to type but they hive me a reason for being"

Good. Once your content and happy that's good. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm so sorry for your loss OP..

I'm not sure what happens after you die but I do believe in energy some people may call it a spirit, I have been around people dying many times and believe me there's a profound peace once they pass..

Odd things have happened too.

Not sure if that makes any sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have my own beliefs and they bring me comfort.

I have some Christian beliefs and the thought that there is a higher being to pray to for others in hard times is a comfort. I believe in an afterlife because that brings me comfort to me too. Obviously my own immortality won't be proven to me though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Live in the moment , and live each day moment by moment .

Don't spend too much time worrying or pondering on what's going to happen many years hence or tomorrow. You have little or any control of that.

Just enjoy what you can control , the here and now

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm so sorry for your loss OP..

I'm not sure what happens after you die but I do believe in energy some people may call it a spirit, I have been around people dying many times and believe me there's a profound peace once they pass..

Odd things have happened too.

Not sure if that makes any sense."

Yes that does. I too have seen things and had messages from spirit so we must live on in a scence to support our loved ones left behind. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have my own beliefs and they bring me comfort.

I have some Christian beliefs and the thought that there is a higher being to pray to for others in hard times is a comfort. I believe in an afterlife because that brings me comfort to me too. Obviously my own immortality won't be proven to me though."

I hope there's an afterlife. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Live in the moment , and live each day moment by moment .

Don't spend too much time worrying or pondering on what's going to happen many years hence or tomorrow. You have little or any control of that.

Just enjoy what you can control , the here and now "

Yes I agree with this taff. We don't know what tomorrow will bring us. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have my own beliefs and they bring me comfort.

I have some Christian beliefs and the thought that there is a higher being to pray to for others in hard times is a comfort. I believe in an afterlife because that brings me comfort to me too. Obviously my own immortality won't be proven to me though.

I hope there's an afterlife. Xxx "

I think we both watch enough ghost hunt shows to be convinced x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry no ghosts they disobey the laws of physics and i believe in Brian Cox , dr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Live in the moment , and live each day moment by moment .

Don't spend too much time worrying or pondering on what's going to happen many years hence or tomorrow. You have little or any control of that.

Just enjoy what you can control , the here and now "

Wise owl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Live in the moment , and live each day moment by moment .

Don't spend too much time worrying or pondering on what's going to happen many years hence or tomorrow. You have little or any control of that.

Just enjoy what you can control , the here and now

Wise owl "

See I'm not such a twit. Towoo

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have my own beliefs and they bring me comfort.

I have some Christian beliefs and the thought that there is a higher being to pray to for others in hard times is a comfort. I believe in an afterlife because that brings me comfort to me too. Obviously my own immortality won't be proven to me though.

I hope there's an afterlife. Xxx

I think we both watch enough ghost hunt shows to be convinced x"

Yes very true. I still can't remember playing with that dam scarf though. xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sorry no ghosts they disobey the laws of physics and i believe in Brian Cox , dr "

Have you watched that Stephan Hawkins film? Now that did get me thinking. xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry no ghosts they disobey the laws of physics and i believe in Brian Cox , dr

Have you watched that Stephan Hawkins film? Now that did get me thinking. xxx"

I did it was splendid what a chap he is ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pretty have you cut your hair?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Live in the moment , and live each day moment by moment .

Don't spend too much time worrying or pondering on what's going to happen many years hence or tomorrow. You have little or any control of that.

Just enjoy what you can control , the here and now

Wise owl

See I'm not such a twit. Towoo "

Giggles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Live in the moment , and live each day moment by moment .

Don't spend too much time worrying or pondering on what's going to happen many years hence or tomorrow. You have little or any control of that.

Just enjoy what you can control , the here and now

Wise owl

See I'm not such a twit. Towoo

Giggles "

Gosh i have missed your chuckles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the darkest thoughts come from half thinking something through. Take, for example, the idea that there's nothing after death and that we're just a random collection of atoms. Let's think it through more fully.

So you die. And of course since, in this scenario, you cease to exist... you therefore cease to experience anything... including time. This means that eons and eons of time will pass without you being at all aware of it. So much time in fact that the whole physical universe will implode or die off or whatever it's going to do and then well up and explode out all over again billions and trillions and zillions of times over and over again until... yes you guessed it... your atoms will all randomly realign again and you'll be reborn. To you, having witnessed no time between, there would be no gap... your death would segue quite smoothly into your birth, albeit an unfathomable amount of time later.

Of course all this could be nonsense and there could be a spiritworld... But it shows even atheists are only half thinking things through when they come up with bleak dead end ideas of life and death

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Live in the moment , and live each day moment by moment .

Don't spend too much time worrying or pondering on what's going to happen many years hence or tomorrow. You have little or any control of that.

Just enjoy what you can control , the here and now

Wise owl

See I'm not such a twit. Towoo

Giggles

Gosh i have missed your chuckles "

**twirls for Taff**

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We are finite beings, having consciousness for our organic lifetime and then no further in my opinion. We make the meaning of our life as we go along. We're one animal amongst many here and reached this path via evolution from earlier ancestors.

This life is as meaningful or meaningless as we decide it to be. It's much longer than many animal species have and our intelligence allows us to alter our experience according to our desires - so it's a very personal and unique life that we each live.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry no ghosts they disobey the laws of physics and i believe in Brian Cox , dr "

Brain Cox doesn't know everything. Even if he saw a ghost, I'm sure he'll come up with some sort of equation to explain it.

Op, there was a new theory published today in relation to a cold spot found in the multiuniverse. Such a theory suggested there could be infinite dimensions of our earth or like it. In such a world there could be another you (for example). However you could be living a different life as to what you are now. For example, you could be the president in that world.

There's so much not yet discovered or not yet proven. I believe out of all the planets, all the galaxies and all the universe's, how can us humans be all there is??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i don't believe there's an afterlife at all.

I hold no religions beliefs what so ever, I believe once you've died that's it. Your body shuts down, your brains stops sending signals. Game over. If you die peacefully in bed for example, I imagine it'll be very similar to going to sleep, you don't know it's happened

The reason for living is unique to each person, what we leave behind is what I class as the closest thing we'll get to afterlife......memories of us.

Make someone smile, make someone laugh, go help someone, visit family....the list is endless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

here's a quote from a book i particularly like that reminds me how precious and unlikely the time we have is

"“Consider the fact that for 3.8 billion years, a period of time older than the Earth's mountains and rivers and oceans, every one of your forebears on both sides has been attractive enough to find a mate, healthy enough to reproduce, and sufficiently blessed by fate and circumstances to live long enough to do so. Not one of your pertinent ancestors was squashed, devoured, drowned, starved, stranded, stuck fast, untimely wounded, or otherwise deflected from its life's quest of delivering a tiny charge of genetic material to the right partner at the right moment in order to perpetuate the only possible sequence of hereditary combinations that could result -- eventually, astoundingly, and all too briefly -- in you.”

dunno really what i'm trying to say, but it makes you think, any of us are lucky to have lived and experienced life, however fleetingly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I often think what's the point. One day there will be no humans and it all will have been for nothing.

I think losing people close to you makes you question existence.

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By *ensualguy101Man
over a year ago

Orpington


"here's a quote from a book i particularly like that reminds me how precious and unlikely the time we have is

"“Consider the fact that for 3.8 billion years, a period of time older than the Earth's mountains and rivers and oceans, every one of your forebears on both sides has been attractive enough to find a mate, healthy enough to reproduce, and sufficiently blessed by fate and circumstances to live long enough to do so. Not one of your pertinent ancestors was squashed, devoured, drowned, starved, stranded, stuck fast, untimely wounded, or otherwise deflected from its life's quest of delivering a tiny charge of genetic material to the right partner at the right moment in order to perpetuate the only possible sequence of hereditary combinations that could result -- eventually, astoundingly, and all too briefly -- in you.”

dunno really what i'm trying to say, but it makes you think, any of us are lucky to have lived and experienced life, however fleetingly "

Bill Bryson?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If there is only blackness after what came before?

Nobody knows what happens when you die. The point of life is to live it the best way you can and do the least harm."

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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i'm a nihilist and do believe life is pointless and without reason, and that humans are unnecessary. i mean this in a way overall and in general -but not individually (for a few reasons, the main one being we can affect others lives and so become 'important' for that reason).

if you put a purpose to all life then many people will not have life purpose because not everybody wants the same things. and this is what i mean by life being pointless. we are just here, doing our thing, whatever we evolved to be able to do.

i also think many things came about by chance or happened because the opportunity arose and do not believe in intelligent design. i do not believe someone created us for a reason and then did not give us the innate ability to understand what that was and that someone had to make a rule book for us instead. i don't believe we were all savages who needed that kind of guidance. i do believe some people are so devious/evil they will ruin a civilised society and cause problems within it to serve themselves.

i think people just die because our body can't last forever, some animals can live longer than us and there's no reason why, they just evolved that way and we did not. karma doesn't exist or the world would be fair right now...if we had a purpose. i think it's sad we have emotions that make us unhappy but they are there to tell us something is not right with our lives. we grieve things we miss and that's ok too.

when i die and there is nothing i won't know i am dead. and i'm fine with that. even if i'm wrong about all of the above none of what i think pains me and that's probably why i believe in it.

sorry to hear your friend has died also, not surprised your angry.

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By *ensualguy101Man
over a year ago

Orpington

OP, I would suggest you talk to a medium. I've spoken to several over the years and I'm amazed at the things that they tell me, and I genuinely think they are being truthful. That suggests to me that there is some sort of life after death, though it may not be quite as religious texts make out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you get what you deserve my niece and I had the same dream 2 days after my mum died it was a lovely. we told my sister and she told us the same dream on the same day to the point. As for Ian Brady he os on a special part of hell and will rot for all eternity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there's nothing then it wont matter because we wont exist to know about it. So live, love, laugh & make the time you have as good as it can be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You cannot create or destroy energy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You cannot create or destroy energy. "

True, the enegy stored in us will go on. But in what form, & wether we'll be conscious of it or not is the question

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By *lectrumMan
over a year ago

south shields

Don't worry op those souls that don't go to heaven will be put on the shelf then reincarnated at some point, so I've heard

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over a year ago

south shields

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

Really annoying not knowing our fate....live/die and thats it!

Like life experiences and would appreciate all that work to contribute towards a conscious self awareness upon death and a chance to gain enlightenment of sorts.

Not religious btw..keep strong op

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is the purpose/meaning of life?" is such an open question. To me, there isn't only one answer. As a whole, there is no purpose. We haven't been put here by anyone or anything for any reason. We're a product of science and evolution. However, the purpose is whatever you want it to be. But your purpose will be different to mine and everybody else's.

I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but the idea of afterlife and spirits are as plausible as a children's fairy tale book. But, if a person's beliefs help them live easier, who am I to begrudge them of that?

There was darkness before and there will be darkness again.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Pretty have you cut your hair?"

I have my dear. Do you like it? Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some of the darkest thoughts come from half thinking something through. Take, for example, the idea that there's nothing after death and that we're just a random collection of atoms. Let's think it through more fully.

So you die. And of course since, in this scenario, you cease to exist... you therefore cease to experience anything... including time. This means that eons and eons of time will pass without you being at all aware of it. So much time in fact that the whole physical universe will implode or die off or whatever it's going to do and then well up and explode out all over again billions and trillions and zillions of times over and over again until... yes you guessed it... your atoms will all randomly realign again and you'll be reborn. To you, having witnessed no time between, there would be no gap... your death would segue quite smoothly into your birth, albeit an unfathomable amount of time later.

Of course all this could be nonsense and there could be a spiritworld... But it shows even atheists are only half thinking things through when they come up with bleak dead end ideas of life and death "

I like that idea. Thank you xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sorry no ghosts they disobey the laws of physics and i believe in Brian Cox , dr

Brain Cox doesn't know everything. Even if he saw a ghost, I'm sure he'll come up with some sort of equation to explain it.

Op, there was a new theory published today in relation to a cold spot found in the multiuniverse. Such a theory suggested there could be infinite dimensions of our earth or like it. In such a world there could be another you (for example). However you could be living a different life as to what you are now. For example, you could be the president in that world.

There's so much not yet discovered or not yet proven. I believe out of all the planets, all the galaxies and all the universe's, how can us humans be all there is??"
what you mean I could be axls wife. xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i don't believe there's an afterlife at all.

I hold no religions beliefs what so ever, I believe once you've died that's it. Your body shuts down, your brains stops sending signals. Game over. If you die peacefully in bed for example, I imagine it'll be very similar to going to sleep, you don't know it's happened

The reason for living is unique to each person, what we leave behind is what I class as the closest thing we'll get to afterlife......memories of us.

Make someone smile, make someone laugh, go help someone, visit family....the list is endless. "
yes we do certainly live on in memories. I suppose I'm not scared of death but I am scared of not existing. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I often think what's the point. One day there will be no humans and it all will have been for nothing.

I think losing people close to you makes you question existence. "

I've only started questioning my existence since I've become happy to be alive. For years I was just existing and bar my daughters I didn't give a shit if I lived or not. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i'm a nihilist and do believe life is pointless and without reason, and that humans are unnecessary. i mean this in a way overall and in general -but not individually (for a few reasons, the main one being we can affect others lives and so become 'important' for that reason).

if you put a purpose to all life then many people will not have life purpose because not everybody wants the same things. and this is what i mean by life being pointless. we are just here, doing our thing, whatever we evolved to be able to do.

i also think many things came about by chance or happened because the opportunity arose and do not believe in intelligent design. i do not believe someone created us for a reason and then did not give us the innate ability to understand what that was and that someone had to make a rule book for us instead. i don't believe we were all savages who needed that kind of guidance. i do believe some people are so devious/evil they will ruin a civilised society and cause problems within it to serve themselves.

i think people just die because our body can't last forever, some animals can live longer than us and there's no reason why, they just evolved that way and we did not. karma doesn't exist or the world would be fair right now...if we had a purpose. i think it's sad we have emotions that make us unhappy but they are there to tell us something is not right with our lives. we grieve things we miss and that's ok too.

when i die and there is nothing i won't know i am dead. and i'm fine with that. even if i'm wrong about all of the above none of what i think pains me and that's probably why i believe in it.

sorry to hear your friend has died also, not surprised your angry. "
thank you. I'm so hurt for her twin because they are so close to each other. My pain is insignificant to hers. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OP, I would suggest you talk to a medium. I've spoken to several over the years and I'm amazed at the things that they tell me, and I genuinely think they are being truthful. That suggests to me that there is some sort of life after death, though it may not be quite as religious texts make out. "
yes I have been to a spiritlist church and the messages I've had have given me hope in the past. I just lost that hope last night. Xxx

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By *arvin35Man
over a year ago

penrith

Sorry for your loss OP

Whether we come back or not is unknown and personally I'm pretty anti religion but if we do just disappear and that's it, you'll have left 2 kids (assuming they are still alive at that point) who seem to have a cool mum (based from what you post) and hopefully you've brought fun and happiness into many peoples lifes. Hopefully you've done more positive than negative things in life, be it to people, animals or the world as a whole, if you or someone else can look back and say "they were a good person" that would be good enough for me.

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over a year ago


"Sorry for your loss OP

Whether we come back or not is unknown and personally I'm pretty anti religion but if we do just disappear and that's it, you'll have left 2 kids (assuming they are still alive at that point) who seem to have a cool mum (based from what you post) and hopefully you've brought fun and happiness into many peoples lifes. Hopefully you've done more positive than negative things in life, be it to people, animals or the world as a whole, if you or someone else can look back and say "they were a good person" that would be good enough for me. "

Thank you, and yes I hope so too. It's funny I was saying to my girls the other day how strange it is to think that 3 generations have washed up the plates my mum gave me this Easter. They were originally my grannys. Xxx

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over a year ago

There's a song called For A Dancer by Jackson Browne which sums up my feelings about this. It brought me great comfort when an ex girlfriend died aged 21, and when a good mate of mine died last year. They both live on in affection in my memories.

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over a year ago


"here's a quote from a book i particularly like that reminds me how precious and unlikely the time we have is

"“Consider the fact that for 3.8 billion years, a period of time older than the Earth's mountains and rivers and oceans, every one of your forebears on both sides has been attractive enough to find a mate, healthy enough to reproduce, and sufficiently blessed by fate and circumstances to live long enough to do so. Not one of your pertinent ancestors was squashed, devoured, drowned, starved, stranded, stuck fast, untimely wounded, or otherwise deflected from its life's quest of delivering a tiny charge of genetic material to the right partner at the right moment in order to perpetuate the only possible sequence of hereditary combinations that could result -- eventually, astoundingly, and all too briefly -- in you.”

dunno really what i'm trying to say, but it makes you think, any of us are lucky to have lived and experienced life, however fleetingly

Bill Bryson? "

indeed. a short history of nearly everything. there are some great quotes in that book that lend some real perspective...it's a good one when feeling fed up i find

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over a year ago


"I'm sorry to hear about your friend PTU.

I think there is nothing after death. That doesn't mean life is pointless though. Everyone makes a difference to someone at some point in their life, Look at someone who donates bone marrow and saves a life, those who donate blood regularly to save lives.

It could even be unknowingly, you missed a crash by 10 seconds because you were late to pick up a friend and that meant they were safe too. You've taken part in a clinical trial that's ultimately helped create a new wonder drug. We all have some impact. Well I think we do anyway. "

I have a similar outlook.

We're accidents of the existence of anything. Our role is to simply enjoy, and to help those around us enjoy it too. Be that our nearest and dearest or the wider world x

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

When we are feeling low , particularly after a loss , we seek solace from somewhere . It's natural and there are so many ways to do this . Primarily the belief that there must be something else after this life . Whether that be the traditional heaven concept , or the reincarnation belief .

It doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks or believes in , although it's nice to have your own ideas affirmed .

So whatever you think , believe it's true . Live each day with whatever you think makes sense of this crazy world that sometimes makes no sense at all .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is something I have spent a looooooong time pondering...

We view the world through such a tiny window. There are wavelengths of light we can't see, frequencies of sound we can't hear, electric and magnetic fields we can't detect and so much more going on around us we just don't know about.

I have plenty of ideas and beliefs about what life is all about and what happens afterwards but I'm also content with the knowledge that our tiny minds would have no way of understanding what happens next in any meaningful way anyway.

I think that the best way to deal with one's current existence is to leave the world in slightly better state for those that follow us. And if someone does leave us, if you carry their memory and use it to inspire your life and others, that person still lives on and continues to have a positive influence on the world.

Big love to you PTU. xxxxxxxxx

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I don't get the leap to 'if their is nothing after - what's the point' .

Surely if there is nothing after, it makes it even more important to enjoy your time here, love those around you and try to leave the place better than you found it.

Our children and others children will carry on the cycle when we are dust.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we will never know for sure - enjoy our time here as much as we can and be nice to others - i go through phases of what is it all about as well

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