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"I've no idea but so many men have deleted their profile after sending me a message this past few weeks, could that be connected? " They saw you and knew they had no chance so gave up | |||
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"Scientific studies have shown that classically attractive people are generally treated better, all others things being equal. Of course I'm going to say that attraction doesn't play into how I treat people, consciously. Subconsciously I simply can't answer to. On a more cynical note - have you seen how attractive new posters (particularly men) are treated in the forums as opposed to their less classically attractive counterparts? " | |||
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"If you look at all the uber-wealthy people who are Billionaires, none of them are "classically attractive". Have you ever seen a uber-good looking Billionaire? ...they don't exist. " By being successful and being treated better aren't the same thing... | |||
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" By being successful and being treated better aren't the same thing..." I haven't even said anything remotely close to that. | |||
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"If you look at all the uber-wealthy people who are Billionaires, none of them are "classically attractive". Have you ever seen a uber-good looking Billionaire? ...they don't exist. " Yeah but they don't give a flying f### | |||
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"Scientific studies have shown that classically attractive people are generally treated better, all others things being equal. Of course I'm going to say that attraction doesn't play into how I treat people, consciously. Subconsciously I simply can't answer to. On a more cynical note - have you seen how attractive new posters (particularly men) are treated in the forums as opposed to their less classically attractive counterparts? " I would very much agree with this. It's harsh truth but reality. | |||
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"Scientific studies have shown that classically attractive people are generally treated better, all others things being equal. Of course I'm going to say that attraction doesn't play into how I treat people, consciously. Subconsciously I simply can't answer to. On a more cynical note - have you seen how attractive new posters (particularly men) are treated in the forums as opposed to their less classically attractive counterparts? " Re your last point - yes! I would caveat that it may only be until they demonstrate that potentially they're just attractive aesthetically, though. I think often if they fall foul of this, if they come across just as a walking Ken-doll looks-wise and not much else, then they may get even more flak ultimately (although, what people find attractive is subjective blah blah blah). But you do make a good point! | |||
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"If you look at all the uber-wealthy people who are Billionaires, none of them are "classically attractive". Have you ever seen a uber-good looking Billionaire? ...they don't exist. Yeah but they don't give a flying f### " That is not my point. Fucking hell....does anyone have a brain?... | |||
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"I bet, had the person been unemployed and less good looking, the judge would have sent her to prison. The judgement has yet to come but I bet she gets away with it. " If they were unemployed they would definitely have some jail time to look forward to, I'm not sure it had anything to do with looks though | |||
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" By being successful and being treated better aren't the same thing... I haven't even said anything remotely close to that. " Ok. Sorry. I was trying to relate your comment to the OP. Nevermind. | |||
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"If you look at all the uber-wealthy people who are Billionaires, none of them are "classically attractive". Have you ever seen a uber-good looking Billionaire? ...they don't exist. Yeah but they don't give a flying f### That is not my point. Fucking hell....does anyone have a brain?... " To be fair, I don't understand the point you are making either. The OP is saying do good looking people get treated more favourably. You are talking about billionaires tending not to be good looking. What's your point? | |||
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"If you look at all the uber-wealthy people who are Billionaires, none of them are "classically attractive". Have you ever seen a uber-good looking Billionaire? ...they don't exist. Yeah but they don't give a flying f### That is not my point. Fucking hell....does anyone have a brain?... " i do. (it's mostly wasted here). hence i use a lot of smilies in an attempt to appear sexually alluding to all males and females and up my status. (that also doesn't work). | |||
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"My point is... Billionaires tend to be a LOT harder working and more driven than uber-good looking people. It has NOTHING to do with appearance. In other words...I think it's bullshit that attractive people get further." Ahhh, so you are relating 'being treated favourably' to 'making it financially' - I'm not sure all of us were. But yes, nods. I hear what you are saying. | |||
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"My point is... Billionaires tend to be a LOT harder working and more driven than uber-good looking people. It has NOTHING to do with appearance. In other words...I think it's bullshit that attractive people get further." That's what I thought you were saying. And I'll repeat, getting treated better isn't the same as being successful. What I mean by that is that the OP asked whether more atttavtive peole are treated better or get away with more than less attractive people. I would say yes, as would science. But that doesn't mean they are more succesful or that they get any further in life. In fact, it could be the opposite. So I agree with you, but I also think they get away with more and get treated better, generally speaking. | |||
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"I once got stopped for speeding on my motorbike. Officer came over, I took my helmet off, shook out my long blond hair, and got let off with a mild admonishment lol! " I've been stopped in my car and smiled and flirted and didn't even get told off Don't know how other people have been treated but definitely used my looks to get away with things ....also apparently I'm a natural flirt (didn't realise I was actually flirting...thought I was being friendly ) | |||
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"My point is... Billionaires tend to be a LOT harder working and more driven than uber-good looking people. It has NOTHING to do with appearance. In other words...I think it's bullshit that attractive people get further. That's what I thought you were saying. And I'll repeat, getting treated better isn't the same as being successful. What I mean by that is that the OP asked whether more atttavtive peole are treated better or get away with more than less attractive people. I would say yes, as would science. But that doesn't mean they are more succesful or that they get any further in life. In fact, it could be the opposite. So I agree with you, but I also think they get away with more and get treated better, generally speaking." This was my thinking *hops on your ability to articulate* | |||
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"In all honesty, looks are great, but success in virtually any aspect of life, boils down to what comes out of your mouth (or a lottery win) " Doesn't mean you can't be smart and good looking??? | |||
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"On a more cynical note - have you seen how attractive new posters (particularly men) are treated in the forums as opposed to their less classically attractive counterparts? " So much yes to this. First threads and posts that are twuntish get a far easier ride on here because of their classic attractiveness. | |||
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"If you look at all the uber-wealthy people who are Billionaires, none of them are "classically attractive". Have you ever seen a uber-good looking Billionaire? ...they don't exist. " Actually, yes. One of our clients is the most beautiful man I've ever seen. And he's such a good person too; integrity, self depreciation, kind..... I'm just going for a little 'me' time. | |||
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"My point is... Billionaires tend to be a LOT harder working and more driven than uber-good looking people. It has NOTHING to do with appearance. In other words...I think it's bullshit that attractive people get further. That's what I thought you were saying. And I'll repeat, getting treated better isn't the same as being successful. What I mean by that is that the OP asked whether more atttavtive peole are treated better or get away with more than less attractive people. I would say yes, as would science. But that doesn't mean they are more succesful or that they get any further in life. In fact, it could be the opposite. So I agree with you, but I also think they get away with more and get treated better, generally speaking." This is what I was kind of getting at. | |||
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"I've been on the receiving end of barmen serving the more attractive girl next to me despite me being there longer. I learnt to get gobby " Awwww is that Clem's nickname? | |||
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"I've been on the receiving end of barmen serving the more attractive girl next to me despite me being there longer. I learnt to get gobby Awwww is that Clem's nickname? " Should be | |||
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"I've been on the receiving end of barmen serving the more attractive girl next to me despite me being there longer. I learnt to get gobby Awwww is that Clem's nickname? Should be " | |||
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"Personal experience, I went from being rather fat to being in relatively ok shape and the way I was treated changed dramatically.. everything from behaviour of people serving in shops to talking to people in the street changed. We live in a shallow world it seems" I agree, that has been my experience as well. X | |||
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"I used to be open about being a billionaire and had to fight off hoards of beautiful women. Since keeping it secret and acting like I haven't got a pot to piss in I find I'm no longer attractive to these or any other women now!" A billionaire, you say? | |||
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"I used to be open about being a billionaire and had to fight off hoards of beautiful women. Since keeping it secret and acting like I haven't got a pot to piss in I find I'm no longer attractive to these or any other women now!" Hi, I don't believe we've met... | |||
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"I used to be open about being a billionaire and had to fight off hoards of beautiful women. Since keeping it secret and acting like I haven't got a pot to piss in I find I'm no longer attractive to these or any other women now!" If that were true, you wouldn't be living in Thetford | |||
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"My point is... Billionaires tend to be a LOT harder working and more driven than uber-good looking people. It has NOTHING to do with appearance. In other words...I think it's bullshit that attractive people get further." There's a south park episode on this, 'bebe's boobs destroy society'. | |||
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"Yeah course they are." Totally agree with ya. Unattractive people get ignored/forgot about & left behind. | |||
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"How do you define attractive. What one person finds attractive will be different to the next. As such surely everyone is treated better but someone." There is a stero typical attractive, thanks to advertising, media etc | |||
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"How do you define attractive. What one person finds attractive will be different to the next. As such surely everyone is treated better but someone." There is sort of a mainstream attractive though isn't there.. the one defined by society and the media. | |||
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"In all honesty, looks are great, but success in virtually any aspect of life, boils down to what comes out of your mouth (or a lottery win) Doesn't mean you can't be smart and good looking???" Totally agree | |||
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"Just another thought to throw out there being devils advocate. It's all a gross generalisation but bare with me. If sucessful people can classically attract more attractive mates. Their offspring will naturally possess both attractive featutes and the attributes to be successful thus enabling them to have a choice of attractive mates. Over generations it then wouldn't be a suprise to typically find more attractive people in an upper class genetic pool (assuming very low social mobility over this period) think average Jeremy Kyle participant vs made in chelsea. Not to mention the money success brings affords better health outcomes in terms of healthcare, quality of food, education etc.. and being healthy is attractive. To reiterate you can pick holes in this all day i know im generalising massively but unless you want to write a thesis its best not to argue the finer points." No edit button, ignore the typos | |||
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"How do you define attractive. What one person finds attractive will be different to the next. As such surely everyone is treated better but someone. There is a stero typical attractive, thanks to advertising, media etc" So stero typical attractive people are treated better? Tbh I'm a 5ft 2 Weeble shaped 40 year old and I generally find that I am treated well. I think how you treat others determines how you're treat. Just my opinion | |||
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"How do you define attractive. What one person finds attractive will be different to the next. As such surely everyone is treated better but someone. There is sort of a mainstream attractive though isn't there.. the one defined by society and the media. " Of course but are they treated better? Surely it's about how you present and how you treat others? | |||
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"Scientific studies have shown that classically attractive people are generally treated better, all others things being equal. Of course I'm going to say that attraction doesn't play into how I treat people, consciously. Subconsciously I simply can't answer to. On a more cynical note - have you seen how attractive new posters (particularly men) are treated in the forums as opposed to their less classically attractive counterparts? " The hot ones with 6 packs they found on the internet? I like playing with those ones | |||
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"How do you define attractive. What one person finds attractive will be different to the next. As such surely everyone is treated better but someone. There is sort of a mainstream attractive though isn't there.. the one defined by society and the media. Of course but are they treated better? Surely it's about how you present and how you treat others?" I'm sure that's a factor, yeah. But scientists have done studies on whether conventionally attractive people get treated better than their less conventionally attractive counterparts in similar situations and they have found that they do. For example, one study found that girls trust attractive faces more than unnatractive ones. There have been numerous studies into this so I won't bother naming them all. You can find them pretty easily on the internet... | |||
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"Just another thought to throw out there being devils advocate. It's all a gross generalisation but bare with me. If sucessful people can classically attract more attractive mates. Their offspring will naturally possess both attractive featutes and the attributes to be successful thus enabling them to have a choice of attractive mates. Over generations it then wouldn't be a suprise to typically find more attractive people in an upper class genetic pool (assuming very low social mobility over this period) think average Jeremy Kyle participant vs made in chelsea. Not to mention the money success brings affords better health outcomes in terms of healthcare, quality of food, education etc.. and being healthy is attractive. To reiterate you can pick holes in this all day i know im generalising massively but unless you want to write a thesis its best not to argue the finer points." Take the money away from the MIC lot and they won't have the hair, clothing, teeth and make up they have. I don't think many of them are particularly attractive. The Jeremy Kyle participants have been selected because of how they look; many poor people are attractive, they don't have the money to enhance their beauty. I'm poor, from ordinary working class parents, and I'm beautiful | |||
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"Just another thought to throw out there being devils advocate. It's all a gross generalisation but bare with me. If sucessful people can classically attract more attractive mates. Their offspring will naturally possess both attractive featutes and the attributes to be successful thus enabling them to have a choice of attractive mates. Over generations it then wouldn't be a suprise to typically find more attractive people in an upper class genetic pool (assuming very low social mobility over this period) think average Jeremy Kyle participant vs made in chelsea. Not to mention the money success brings affords better health outcomes in terms of healthcare, quality of food, education etc.. and being healthy is attractive. To reiterate you can pick holes in this all day i know im generalising massively but unless you want to write a thesis its best not to argue the finer points. Take the money away from the MIC lot and they won't have the hair, clothing, teeth and make up they have. I don't think many of them are particularly attractive. The Jeremy Kyle participants have been selected because of how they look; many poor people are attractive, they don't have the money to enhance their beauty. I'm poor, from ordinary working class parents, and I'm beautiful " Like I said I am making huge generalisations. I'm sure there's an entire spectrum of outliers to the observation. I'm also not trying to dictate who you individually do or do not find attractive, just giving a grossly generalised example based of societies perception as a whole. The Made in chelsea lot having money and therefore being able to afford to enhance their beauty is precisely what I'm talking about. This coincides with my comments about affording a lifestyle which produces better health outcomes. The ability to make their teeth and hair look good directly affects their appearance of health (fashion is a whole other beast in itself although the same principle applies) therefore directlt affects their attractiveness. You might be right about the Jeremy Kyle participants I don't know how they are selected although I might argue their crazy situations play a larger role than their appearance. I am not saying poor people aren't attractive as a blanket statement that would be ridiculous but not having the money to enhance their beauty carries the same (although inverse) sentiment as my earlier point about the made in chelsea bunch. Final note: My comments are in no way a slight at working class people and in no way am I stating all working class people are unattractive. I'm also from a working class family I just wanted to add another thought/perspective to the conversation. You are beautiful | |||
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"How do you define attractive. What one person finds attractive will be different to the next. As such surely everyone is treated better but someone. There is sort of a mainstream attractive though isn't there.. the one defined by society and the media. Of course but are they treated better? Surely it's about how you present and how you treat others?" It should be, but experience tells me it isn't.. At first glance you can't tell those things either, you'd have to get to know someone. It's a bit like some people in the past have assumed I'm stupid or aggressive because of my shape.. it takes a conversation or two for them to see past that. | |||
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"Attractive women are treated better by men because they want to get in their knickers. " And vice-versa | |||
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"Attractive women are treated better by men because they want to get in their knickers. And vice-versa" I'm an equal opportunities fawner | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here." Stereotyping people based on appearance is an ugly trait in itself is it not? | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here." This will be like saying that all short men suffer from SMS. Is that true? - Mrs. J - | |||
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"How do you define attractive. What one person finds attractive will be different to the next. As such surely everyone is treated better but someone. There is sort of a mainstream attractive though isn't there.. the one defined by society and the media. Of course but are they treated better? Surely it's about how you present and how you treat others? I'm sure that's a factor, yeah. But scientists have done studies on whether conventionally attractive people get treated better than their less conventionally attractive counterparts in similar situations and they have found that they do. For example, one study found that girls trust attractive faces more than unnatractive ones. There have been numerous studies into this so I won't bother naming them all. You can find them pretty easily on the internet..." It links in with evolution too, there's a phenomenon called 'the hot son' whereby women will knowingly get pregnant by a gorgeous man who has the personality of a toilet bowl because their children will be 'hot' and therefore still likely to carry on their genes. | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here. Stereotyping people based on appearance is an ugly trait in itself is it not? " It is indeed and people seem happy to make fun of other people's physical attributes | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here. This will be like saying that all short men suffer from SMS. Is that true? - Mrs. J -" Dunno | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here. Stereotyping people based on appearance is an ugly trait in itself is it not? It is indeed and people seem happy to make fun of other people's physical attributes " In what way have you seen that here? Genuine question.. | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here. Stereotyping people based on appearance is an ugly trait in itself is it not? " As most people on here don't show their faces I'd like to know how one comes to that conclusion, unless you're talking about body beauty. | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here. Stereotyping people based on appearance is an ugly trait in itself is it not? As most people on here don't show their faces I'd like to know how one comes to that conclusion, unless you're talking about body beauty. " Did you mean to quote me? | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here. Stereotyping people based on appearance is an ugly trait in itself is it not? It is indeed and people seem happy to make fun of other people's physical attributes In what way have you seen that here? Genuine question.. " Only a couple of days back, a women had commented on my thread and I looked at her profile, her status which I won't quote again was a moan about "ugly people". | |||
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"People do not like beautiful people on here! There was a thread running last week, asking whether a 6 pack body was preferable to a "dad bod" (fat, untoned) and the "dad bod" was easily the most popular!" Not representative of the general population though. | |||
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"But very representative of the Fab population!" I doubt it, potentially more representative of the 1% of fab users who post on forums. In reality most people will feel more secure playing with someone of a similar attractiveness to themselves and adjust their stated preferences accordingly. | |||
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"Slightly inspired by the Oxford student thread - but not directly related to the particular thread which is a separate debate - do 'good looking' people get treated 'better' generally in life? Can a stunner get away with things us fuglies can't? Do YOU either consciously or unconsciously discriminate against less beautiful people? Or is it just paranoia on the part of those of us hit with the ugly stick? " Of course they do, especially on here | |||
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"People do not like beautiful people on here! There was a thread running last week, asking whether a 6 pack body was preferable to a "dad bod" (fat, untoned) and the "dad bod" was easily the most popular!" , | |||
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"If you look at all the uber-wealthy people who are Billionaires, none of them are "classically attractive". Have you ever seen a uber-good looking Billionaire? ...they don't exist. Yeah but they don't give a flying f### That is not my point. Fucking hell....does anyone have a brain?... " Do you mean that they've had surgery to make themselves more attractive? | |||
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"Ive found that the really stunningly beautiful lack in social skills because they havnt had to develop them eg everything comes to them but their are many exceptions as in everything, dont think it applies here as much because quite often you can't see the look of the person just their body but obviously a woman here could be deemed to be popular by the attention she gets not necessarily by her beauty but she may have inner beauty ,mostly difficult to find out about because popular people give you less time " Well most the guests on jeremey kyle are both very unattractiveand have very poor social skills so potentially there's another correlation there. Probably linked to people there have very negative outlooks on life and anger issues. | |||
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"I think it depends on the circumstances. It can work the opposite way where people assume you are "up yourself" so treat you like you think you are better than them . " Clothes make a difference so of course looks will make a difference. Man in suit... man in joggers... Woman in slinky dress... woman in tracksuit... We all know which will get the attention. | |||
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"I think it depends on the circumstances. It can work the opposite way where people assume you are "up yourself" so treat you like you think you are better than them . Clothes make a difference so of course looks will make a difference. Man in suit... man in joggers... Woman in slinky dress... woman in tracksuit... We all know which will get the attention. " I guess that makes sense in that you can choose how to portray yourself. I like to dress up on a night out but I rarely get chatted up. People assume I'm up my own arse or totally standoffish which is actually not the case. I'm ridiculously shy and socially awkward, I'm mostly sitting hoping someone will talk to me. Having someone look at you and be nice to you because you're dressed nice is fair enough, having them get to know you as a person is quite another. | |||
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"I think it depends on the circumstances. It can work the opposite way where people assume you are "up yourself" so treat you like you think you are better than them . Clothes make a difference so of course looks will make a difference. Man in suit... man in joggers... Woman in slinky dress... woman in tracksuit... We all know which will get the attention. I guess that makes sense in that you can choose how to portray yourself. I like to dress up on a night out but I rarely get chatted up. People assume I'm up my own arse or totally standoffish which is actually not the case. I'm ridiculously shy and socially awkward, I'm mostly sitting hoping someone will talk to me. Having someone look at you and be nice to you because you're dressed nice is fair enough, having them get to know you as a person is quite another." That's a really good point about being shy. I have friends that people think are stuck up, but really they are just very shy. Also I think it can come from within. Feeling good because you're dressed nicely will make you more approachable. Feeling annoyed and dressed in joggers and the negative vibes put people off. Like Brokenbrilliance said above re: negative outlooks. | |||
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"I've found that the "beautiful people" can be very shallow, it's an ugly trait but they seem happy to demonstrate it on to the masses here." this environment is mostly shallow and encourages that. even i'm shallow as fuck on here, away from here i'm way deeper but it's pointless to be so on this site. | |||
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"I once got stopped for speeding on my motorbike. Officer came over, I took my helmet off, shook out my long blond hair, and got let off with a mild admonishment lol! " What, no strip search first? Rookie! | |||
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"I think it depends on the circumstances. It can work the opposite way where people assume you are "up yourself" so treat you like you think you are better than them . Clothes make a difference so of course looks will make a difference. Man in suit... man in joggers... Woman in slinky dress... woman in tracksuit... We all know which will get the attention. " Man with big wallet, woman with big tits? | |||
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"Question... Attractive/beautiful looking woman with a curvy figure? Or slim Athletic build but has a face a mother could only love... What one would you choose? " Wrong road to go down. We will have to define curvy now... | |||
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"Ive found that the really stunningly beautiful lack in social skills because they havnt had to develop them eg everything comes to them but their are many exceptions as in everything, dont think it applies here as much because quite often you can't see the look of the person just their body but obviously a woman here could be deemed to be popular by the attention she gets not necessarily by her beauty but she may have inner beauty ,mostly difficult to find out about because popular people give you less time Well most the guests on jeremey kyle are both very unattractiveand have very poor social skills so potentially there's another correlation there. Probably linked to people there have very negative outlooks on life and anger issues. " ok | |||
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"Ive found that the really stunningly beautiful lack in social skills because they havnt had to develop them eg everything comes to them but their are many exceptions as in everything, dont think it applies here as much because quite often you can't see the look of the person just their body but obviously a woman here could be deemed to be popular by the attention she gets not necessarily by her beauty but she may have inner beauty ,mostly difficult to find out about because popular people give you less time Well most the guests on jeremey kyle are both very unattractiveand have very poor social skills so potentially there's another correlation there. Probably linked to people there have very negative outlooks on life and anger issues. " I dont watch TV in fact dont even own a TV so although I do know who Jeremy kyle is ive never watched his show | |||
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"Yes I believe so " What's with resurrecting all these old posts?! | |||
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"Yes I believe so What's with resurrecting all these old posts?!" Wanted someone to ask and you did | |||
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"Yes I believe so What's with resurrecting all these old posts?! Wanted someone to ask and you did " What do I win? | |||
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"Yes I believe so What's with resurrecting all these old posts?! Wanted someone to ask and you did What do I win?" The pleasure to play again | |||
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"Yes I believe so What's with resurrecting all these old posts?! Wanted someone to ask and you did What do I win? The pleasure to play again " Disappointing... As per... | |||
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"Yes I believe so What's with resurrecting all these old posts?! Wanted someone to ask and you did What do I win? The pleasure to play again Disappointing... As per..." You are welcome | |||
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"Pretty privilege is real, homies" Damn straight. Anyone who denies this is clearly an attractive person. | |||
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"Pretty privilege is real, homies Damn straight. Anyone who denies this is clearly an attractive person. " Funny because you’re unbel… nvm You right though | |||
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"Pretty privilege is real, homies Damn straight. Anyone who denies this is clearly an attractive person. " Nah, I don't think it does exist | |||
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