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Oxford student 'may avoid jail' for drink and drug-fuelled knife attack

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

From BBC News :

An "extraordinary" Oxford University student who stabbed her ex-boyfriend in the leg may avoid jail as it would affect her career prospects, a judge has said.

Lavinia Woodward, 24, attacked the man at Christ Church college, while she was under the influence of drink and drugs.

She admitted inflicting grievous body harm, the Oxford Mail reported.

At Oxford Crown Court, Judge Ian Pringle QC said he believed the attack was "a complete one-off".

"To prevent this extraordinary, able young lady from following her long-held desire to enter the profession she wishes to, would be a sentence which would be too severe," he said.

Full story here :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-39947017

So is this a case of 'one rule for attractive female Oxbridge students' and another for everyone else or a piece of common sense thinking from the judge?

Should a one-off mistake under the influence of drink and drugs harm the career prospects of a bright young lady?

Would someone from a council estate background get the same treatment?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'll read it first .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think it's far more to do with her background/money than her sex...same has been said in assault trials of 'oxbridge' types in the past..and yes,i do think a drug/drink fuelled one off should be enough to ruin career prospects..tough shit..she's 24 not 14..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The rest of the story for those interested :

"What you did will never, I know, leave you, but it was pretty awful, and normally it would attract a custodial sentence."

Medical student Woodward met the Cambridge University student on dating app Tinder, the court heard.

During the attack at the college, she thumped him, lunged at him with a bread knife, and stabbed him in the leg.

She also threw a laptop, glass, and jam jar at him before stabbing herself, the court heard.

Judge Pringle was told Woodward had become addicted to drugs and had previously been in an abusive relationship with a previous boyfriend.

He said he would take an "exceptional" course of action and defer sentencing until September.

Defence barrister James Sturman QC had argued it would be "almost impossible" for Woodward to become a surgeon once she had disclosed her conviction to employers.

The judge ordered Woodward to remain drug-free, and told her she would be sentenced on 25 September.

Francis FitzGibbon, the chair of the Criminal Bar Association, told the BBC's Today programme the case was "unusual".

"The judge must take into account determination or demonstration of steps to address addiction, so it sounds as though he's giving her a chance and I think the judge would do that for anyone wherever they came from in the right circumstances.

"I don't know if her future prospects are the critical factor in this.

"Maybe if she does really badly [on her drug rehabilitation] he'll think again."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. It doesn't provide full details.

Stab as the text states may mean a superficial scratch.

The mere fact that the article provides details of the subjects background, as opposed to full details of her mensrea, any conspiracy etc suggests it's another emotively written attention grabber.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I read it.

I do hope she never qualifies. I don't want to be treated by her.

HOWEVERRRRRRRRRRR

You missed out this part

QUOTE Francis FitzGibbon, the chair of the Criminal Bar Association, told the BBC's Today programme the case was "unusual".

"The judge must take into account determination or demonstration of steps to address addiction, so it sounds as though he's giving her a chance and I think the judge would do that for anyone wherever they came from in the right circumstances.

"I don't know if her future prospects are the critical factor in this.

"Maybe if she does really badly [on her drug rehabilitation] he'll think again." UNQUOTE

Not exactly scot free. Sentence is deferred.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I read it.

I do hope she never qualifies. I don't want to be treated by her.

HOWEVERRRRRRRRRRR

You missed out this part

QUOTE Francis FitzGibbon, the chair of the Criminal Bar Association, told the BBC's Today programme the case was "unusual".

"The judge must take into account determination or demonstration of steps to address addiction, so it sounds as though he's giving her a chance and I think the judge would do that for anyone wherever they came from in the right circumstances.

"I don't know if her future prospects are the critical factor in this.

"Maybe if she does really badly [on her drug rehabilitation] he'll think again." UNQUOTE

Not exactly scot free. Sentence is deferred. "

I posted the rest of the story above!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I've seen plenty of cases where people have also been let off to join the army.

I guess it comes down to someone's genuine aspirations and I can't help think this case is being sensationalised because of her looks and education.

Perhaps it does happen to "normal" people too we just don't get to hear about it as it's not newsworthy like this case?

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"i think it's far more to do with her background/money than her sex...same has been said in assault trials of 'oxbridge' types in the past..and yes,i do think a drug/drink fuelled one off should be enough to ruin career prospects..tough shit..she's 24 not 14.."

i wouldn't want someone that unstable doing surgery on me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've seen plenty of cases where people have also been let off to join the army.

I guess it comes down to someone's genuine aspirations and I can't help think this case is being sensationalised because of her looks and education.

Perhaps it does happen to "normal" people too we just don't get to hear about it as it's not newsworthy like this case? "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

[Removed by poster at 17/05/17 20:02:49]

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"i think it's far more to do with her background/money than her sex...same has been said in assault trials of 'oxbridge' types in the past..and yes,i do think a drug/drink fuelled one off should be enough to ruin career prospects..tough shit..she's 24 not 14..

i wouldn't want someone that unstable doing surgery on me."

I thought that .......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How would this story be viewed had it have been a man doing this to his girlfriend?

Domestic violence against men should also be considered in this story....

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton

My thoughts: Fucking hell.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How would this story be viewed had it have been a man doing this to his girlfriend?

Domestic violence against men should also be considered in this story...."

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

It could set a dangerous precedent for future cases.

Also by being found guilty she receives a criminal Conviction For a serious offence (jail time or not), would that affect her chances of entering her chosen profession?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It could set a dangerous precedent for future cases.

Also by being found guilty she receives a criminal Conviction For a serious offence (jail time or not), would that affect her chances of entering her chosen profession?"

the article ive just read said yes..she's blown her chances of that..the competition is so great now that a much more minor charge would screw up any hope of progressing in that field

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Influence and drugs are not a mitigating but an aggravating factor in sentencing.

No one should be allowed to take away the responsibility for their by consuming influencers.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley


"Influence and drugs are not a mitigating but an aggravating factor in sentencing.

No one should be allowed to take away the responsibility for their by consuming influencers. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Influence and drugs are not a mitigating but an aggravating factor in sentencing.

No one should be allowed to take away the responsibility for their by consuming influencers. "

I missed a couple of words in those two sentences, glad you still found it comprehensible

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"It could set a dangerous precedent for future cases.

Also by being found guilty she receives a criminal Conviction For a serious offence (jail time or not), would that affect her chances of entering her chosen profession?

the article ive just read said yes..she's blown her chances of that..the competition is so great now that a much more minor charge would screw up any hope of progressing in that field"

Even with the current skill shortage in that sector?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a number of issues with this case, not least the DV side of things. However in respect of people "getting off" there are a number of occasions when it seems someone has got away with a criminal offence. The courts though will encourage leniency in cases where people with promising futures/careers, and where there may be mitigating circumstances. The report is not clear on details, and as someone has already stated, stabbed could mean a superficial wound. The article seems a little sensational imho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It could set a dangerous precedent for future cases.

Also by being found guilty she receives a criminal Conviction For a serious offence (jail time or not), would that affect her chances of entering her chosen profession?

the article ive just read said yes..she's blown her chances of that..the competition is so great now that a much more minor charge would screw up any hope of progressing in that field

Even with the current skill shortage in that sector?"

the competition for training to the level she supposedly aspires to, yes..

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