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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Anyone watched it?

It's bloody infuriating that this happens all over the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sat here crying over it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm sat here crying over it "

I agree as a father of two girls it really upset me too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sat here crying over it

I agree as a father of two girls it really upset me too."

I use to live near there and remember it being all over the news. It's made me feel physically sick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sat here crying over it

I agree as a father of two girls it really upset me too."

We have a girl also, it really scares you to think these horrible things can happen. You can't help but put yourself in the parents position watching that tonight.

Thought the lady who was in shameless (can't remember her name) played the part very well as the councillor.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Very shocking

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By *ubik cubeMan
over a year ago

Near Liverpool

A paedophile is a paedophile no matter what race. What was highlighted was the failings of government run departments which were too eager to brush it aside, and their complaints weren't taken seriously enough. When it was brought up by the sexual health nurse. It made my blood boil, that nobody saw anything wrong. I pitty all the victims whether they were vulnerable or not. These evil bastards who think they've got a god given right that they think their permitted to carry out such horrific acts, they need to have their cock and balls cut off. If they're foreign citizens, then they should be deported and never allowed back too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A paedophile is a paedophile no matter what race. What was highlighted was the failings of government run departments which were too eager to brush it aside, and their complaints weren't taken seriously enough. When it was brought up by the sexual health nurse. It made my blood boil, that nobody saw anything wrong. I pitty all the victims whether they were vulnerable or not. These evil bastards who think they've got a god given right that they think their permitted to carry out such horrific acts, they need to have their cock and balls cut off. If they're foreign citizens, then they should be deported and never allowed back too. "

Well said I'm in total agreement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Omg the social workers

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Omg the social workers "

The whole lot were horrendous.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

I missed it. I'm not sure I want to watch it seeing he comments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I found it really very harrowing in parts, amazing how the Police and Social Services tried to dismiss it originally!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its still happening up and down the country. Dont think its stopped cause it hasnt. Next time you see a bunch of young girls d*unk on the street ask yourself were they got the booze from. Glad it highlights that the men get young girls to act as madams for the others. That is quite common

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its still happening up and down the country. Dont think its stopped cause it hasnt. Next time you see a bunch of young girls d*unk on the street ask yourself were they got the booze from. Glad it highlights that the men get young girls to act as madams for the others. That is quite common"

They also get young boys to bring them girls. The girls trust the boys and go with them to hotels, where the men are waiting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched it last night ...and shall be watching it tonight also

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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago

Swindon

Very uncomfortable watch, frustrating to see the naivety of the girls, the way the father initially reacted, the madness of the police, social services etc but most of all the pure evil of the men involved and how they groomed and manipulated the girls involved.

Hard watch but going to stick with it as I have a daughter and a granddaughter and these lessons need to be learned.

So sad and frightening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Very uncomfortable watch, frustrating to see the naivety of the girls, the way the father initially reacted, the madness of the police, social services etc but most of all the pure evil of the men involved and how they groomed and manipulated the girls involved.

Hard watch but going to stick with it as I have a daughter and a granddaughter and these lessons need to be learned.

So sad and frightening."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I watched it last night ...and shall be watching it tonight also

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I'm the same though while the program was well put together and also very well acted. I will be watching it for informative reasons....as we all heard about this on the news and wondered how the hell it could have happened for so long.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a friend who works in child protection. When this first came out she reckoned it was the tip of the iceberg. About a year ago she had ptsd after one of the paedophiles she had helped catch hung himself while on the phone to her. Just fucking horrific all round.

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By *igerlilycubWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire

I found it harrowing and cried lots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's an excellent piece on the BBC news website by the police detective who headed this, well worth a read.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just a reminder episode 2 is on in a few minutes on bbc1.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tuning right in fs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the story being portrayed is correct thank goodness for the lady working in sexual health and her determination to be heard

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By *ovely CummingsWoman
over a year ago

Peaky Nipples


"If the story being portrayed is correct thank goodness for the lady working in sexual health and her determination to be heard"

It is sadly very true and very accurate

And stories like this are happening still

Attitudes are changing, thankfully, but they are ingrained in some areas, so stopping this takes too long

Lifestyle choices and child prostitutes really don't exist when taking about minors.... They are all symptoms of abuse happening to that child

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them "

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But aye pedophiles come from all walks of life as dae mass murders, rapists, serial killers, or any other wrong yins.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It makes me so angry how these people who probably have children of their own....used these poor girls like pieces of meat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian "

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from"

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My bloody heart goes out to that poor kid holly.

The system....police and social workers where not there to help her as a vulnerable kid.....but the same system was there to take her baby off her when she was so so obviously a victim of not only the abusers but also the system and yes... I get it that they had to look after her baby....but fucking hell did they not damage such a bright kid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact. "

Well in that case consider myself educated.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact. "

Please mick give it a rest about Pakistanis and Indian's....it's too raw!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact.

Please mick give it a rest about Pakistanis and Indian's....it's too raw!"

Ignorance is bliss fs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact.

Well in that case consider myself educated. "

Made aware rather

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact.

Please mick give it a rest about Pakistanis and Indian's....it's too raw!

Ignorance is bliss fs. "

It's so easy to turn this into a racist thread by your comments....and I'm not having a pop at you. Its just really raw to me and I don't think a culture lesson is needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact.

Please mick give it a rest about Pakistanis and Indian's....it's too raw!

Ignorance is bliss fs.

It's so easy to turn this into a racist thread by your comments....and I'm not having a pop at you. Its just really raw to me and I don't think a culture lesson is needed. "

Aye I understand & fair do's

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

It's a compelling watch but it's so hard as a mum to see what these girls have been through. The whole messed up ways of the police , Social services and serial health all doing their jobs and not working together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My bloody heart goes out to that poor kid holly.

The system....police and social workers where not there to help her as a vulnerable kid.....but the same system was there to take her baby off her when she was so so obviously a victim of not only the abusers but also the system and yes... I get it that they had to look after her baby....but fucking hell did they not damage such a bright kid."

My sentiments exactly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yet it's still going on

It's still happening right under our noses

Yet many still turn a blind eye

This is what happens in the real world of poverty

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact.

Please mick give it a rest about Pakistanis and Indian's....it's too raw!

Ignorance is bliss fs.

It's so easy to turn this into a racist thread by your comments....and I'm not having a pop at you. Its just really raw to me and I don't think a culture lesson is needed.

Aye I understand & fair do's "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My bloody heart goes out to that poor kid holly.

The system....police and social workers where not there to help her as a vulnerable kid.....but the same system was there to take her baby off her when she was so so obviously a victim of not only the abusers but also the system and yes... I get it that they had to look after her baby....but fucking hell did they not damage such a bright kid.

My sentiments exactly."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yet it's still going on

It's still happening right under our noses

Yet many still turn a blind eye

This is what happens in the real world of poverty "

We can only hope that programs like this can help to make a change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yet it's still going on

It's still happening right under our noses

Yet many still turn a blind eye

This is what happens in the real world of poverty

We can only hope that programs like this can help to make a change "

You're right, we can only hope & pray this arouses people's moral obligations to speak out & make a stance against this type of crime

Failings happened by many organisations but it's only going to get tougher with budget cuts!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yet it's still going on

It's still happening right under our noses

Yet many still turn a blind eye

This is what happens in the real world of poverty

We can only hope that programs like this can help to make a change

You're right, we can only hope & pray this arouses people's moral obligations to speak out & make a stance against this type of crime

Failings happened by many organisations but it's only going to get tougher with budget cuts! "

Please don't get me on to politics! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yet it's still going on

It's still happening right under our noses

Yet many still turn a blind eye

This is what happens in the real world of poverty

We can only hope that programs like this can help to make a change

You're right, we can only hope & pray this arouses people's moral obligations to speak out & make a stance against this type of crime

Failings happened by many organisations but it's only going to get tougher with budget cuts!

Please don't get me on to politics! lol"

lol I tried so hard not to sneak it in but my fingers ran away with me - damn it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yet it's still going on

It's still happening right under our noses

Yet many still turn a blind eye

This is what happens in the real world of poverty

We can only hope that programs like this can help to make a change

You're right, we can only hope & pray this arouses people's moral obligations to speak out & make a stance against this type of crime

Failings happened by many organisations but it's only going to get tougher with budget cuts!

Please don't get me on to politics! lol

lol I tried so hard not to sneak it in but my fingers ran away with me - damn it "

Tried to send you a pm to tell you which way to vote...but couldn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So tragic and very upsetting watching some scenes but I only wish this injustice is never allowed to happen again.

Those police officers and the CPS should hang their head in shame for their failings. I cannot imagine the pain and trauma those children had to go through for so many years and probably still suffering today.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So tragic and very upsetting watching some scenes but I only wish this injustice is never allowed to happen again.

Those police officers and the CPS should hang their head in shame for their failings. I cannot imagine the pain and trauma those children had to go through for so many years and probably still suffering today. "

Yes and by all accounts there were 100s of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I use to live in the same area growing up. It was common knowledge that this was going on and still is to this day. I use to avoid the local shop because of the comments that was made to me and my friends in our school uniform.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So tragic and very upsetting watching some scenes but I only wish this injustice is never allowed to happen again.

Those police officers and the CPS should hang their head in shame for their failings. I cannot imagine the pain and trauma those children had to go through for so many years and probably still suffering today. "

The powers that be in the police hold the strings - not the investigating officers ...I've seen it first hand & how it effects individuals - thou shall not judge! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read an article about it earlier, apparently it makes for harrowing viewing. Although people aren't bad by virtue of their ethnicity certain deeply ingrained cultural dogmas breed and pervade that very sad and damaging social problem.

Not helped by an institutional paranoia regarding being seen as racist for holding the culprits to account or even seriously investigating or questioning the accused.

Nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought to shed light on the issues and hold those responsible to account.. although read a while ago some councils have granted some of the alleged assailant anonymity and have effectively silenced the media from identifying them.. it was implied for purposes of"cultural" sensitivity or preserving "good community relations".

Sad and horrible. The drama at least exposes what happened , educate viewers and hopefully will serve to prevent it happening again or on such a horrifying scale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Read an article about it earlier, apparently it makes for harrowing viewing. Although people aren't bad by virtue of their ethnicity certain deeply ingrained cultural dogmas breed and pervade that very sad and damaging social problem.

Not helped by an institutional paranoia regarding being seen as racist for holding the culprits to account or even seriously investigating or questioning the accused.

Nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought to shed light on the issues and hold those responsible to account.. although read a while ago some councils have granted some of the alleged assailant anonymity and have effectively silenced the media from identifying them.. it was implied for purposes of"cultural" sensitivity or preserving "good community relations".

Sad and horrible. The drama at least exposes what happened , educate viewers and hopefully will serve to prevent it happening again or on such a horrifying scale."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I use to live in the same area growing up. It was common knowledge that this was going on and still is to this day. I use to avoid the local shop because of the comments that was made to me and my friends in our school uniform. "

I knew about Swansea not that it was still happening in rochadale. Happened in Blackpool in the early 2000s as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact. "

This is true everywhere ....quite a lot of Chinese, Indian, English and Jamaican restaurants serve halal without telling people and there is no requirement by law for them to do so...lots of ppl are unhappy about this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Read an article about it earlier, apparently it makes for harrowing viewing. Although people aren't bad by virtue of their ethnicity certain deeply ingrained cultural dogmas breed and pervade that very sad and damaging social problem.

Not helped by an institutional paranoia regarding being seen as racist for holding the culprits to account or even seriously investigating or questioning the accused.

Nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought to shed light on the issues and hold those responsible to account.. although read a while ago some councils have granted some of the alleged assailant anonymity and have effectively silenced the media from identifying them.. it was implied for purposes of"cultural" sensitivity or preserving "good community relations".

Sad and horrible. The drama at least exposes what happened , educate viewers and hopefully will serve to prevent it happening again or on such a horrifying scale."

I'm from an ethnic minority and exposing these criminals is not racist and ppl who commit such crimes should feel the full force of the law regardless of their ethnicity or religion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Read an article about it earlier, apparently it makes for harrowing viewing. Although people aren't bad by virtue of their ethnicity certain deeply ingrained cultural dogmas breed and pervade that very sad and damaging social problem.

Not helped by an institutional paranoia regarding being seen as racist for holding the culprits to account or even seriously investigating or questioning the accused.

Nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought to shed light on the issues and hold those responsible to account.. although read a while ago some councils have granted some of the alleged assailant anonymity and have effectively silenced the media from identifying them.. it was implied for purposes of"cultural" sensitivity or preserving "good community relations".

Sad and horrible. The drama at least exposes what happened , educate viewers and hopefully will serve to prevent it happening again or on such a horrifying scale.

I'm from an ethnic minority and exposing these criminals is not racist and ppl who commit such crimes should feel the full force of the law regardless of their ethnicity or religion"

I agree completely. Unfortunately some parts of the establishment seem to have adopted a bizarre blanket policy of making it almost taboo to investigate culturally borne problems within some ethnic communities, instead electing to downplay and trivialise them , villifying victims and appointing the accused who happens to be from a minority as almost saintly figures, and virtually beyond reproach for fear of a fall out of accusations of institutional xenophobia otherwise.

I hope nothing on this scale ever happens again and the communities that spawn that type of criminality start to play more of an active role in challenging it and ultimately preventing it.

The scale of it is utterly shocking. The establishment were aware of it for years and allowed it to happen through inaction after inaction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Read an article about it earlier, apparently it makes for harrowing viewing. Although people aren't bad by virtue of their ethnicity certain deeply ingrained cultural dogmas breed and pervade that very sad and damaging social problem.

Not helped by an institutional paranoia regarding being seen as racist for holding the culprits to account or even seriously investigating or questioning the accused.

Nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought to shed light on the issues and hold those responsible to account.. although read a while ago some councils have granted some of the alleged assailant anonymity and have effectively silenced the media from identifying them.. it was implied for purposes of"cultural" sensitivity or preserving "good community relations".

Sad and horrible. The drama at least exposes what happened , educate viewers and hopefully will serve to prevent it happening again or on such a horrifying scale.

I'm from an ethnic minority and exposing these criminals is not racist and ppl who commit such crimes should feel the full force of the law regardless of their ethnicity or religion

I agree completely. Unfortunately some parts of the establishment seem to have adopted a bizarre blanket policy of making it almost taboo to investigate culturally borne problems within some ethnic communities, instead electing to downplay and trivialise them , villifying victims and appointing the accused who happens to be from a minority as almost saintly figures, and virtually beyond reproach for fear of a fall out of accusations of institutional xenophobia otherwise.

I hope nothing on this scale ever happens again and the communities that spawn that type of criminality start to play more of an active role in challenging it and ultimately preventing it.

The scale of it is utterly shocking. The establishment were aware of it for years and allowed it to happen through inaction after inaction.

"

It's not helped by people who play the race card like it's going out of fashion....if complaints were investigated on an equal basis regardless of age, religion or ethnicity then there should be no fear of cultural repercussions.

As far as I'm concerned....no culture allows this sort of criminal activity and anyone that excuses it as such needs to be challenged

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...I'm from an ethnic minority and exposing these criminals is not racist and ppl who commit such crimes should feel the full force of the law regardless of their ethnicity or religion"

Speaking in 2013 in response to the sentencing of seven muslims in Oxford Dr Taj Hargey, imam of the Oxford Islamic Congregation, said race and religion were inextricably linked to the recent spate of grooming rings in which Muslim men have targeted under-age white girls.

He said in mosques across the country... the men are taught that women are “second-class citizens, little more than chattels or possessions over whom they have absolute authority,".

“The view of some Islamic preachers towards white women can be appalling. They encourage their followers to believe that these women are habitually promiscuous, decadent, and sleazy — sins which are made all the worse by the fact that they are kaffurs or non-believers.

“Their dress code, from miniskirts to sleeveless tops, is deemed to reflect their impure and immoral outlook. According to this mentality, these white women deserve to be punished for their behaviour by being exploited and degraded.” Such cases can only be prevented in the future if Britain abandons the blinkers of political correctness, he concluded.

But don't hold your breath on that one as it also transpires that many of the VICTIMS had to leave the country because their abusers would follow them around the country if they tried to escape from their slave masters!?

So it just might have dawned on some by now that the grooming/trafficking/raping/gang raping/abusing/paedophile cowards are themselves...the racists.

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By *s_bettyboopWoman
over a year ago

-3

Started watching it last night and was not easy viewing for me. Happened alot where I grew up in Birmingham. I lived in young people hostels as a teenager and some of the girls I lived with had this kind of stuff happening to them. These men would be literally parked up outside the hostel waiting for girls to come out. A lot of the girls truly believed these men were their boyfriends and trusted them.

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By *oss25Man
over a year ago

Flitwick and Fakenham

Harrowing, hard to watch, makes me so angry and so sad.

Jail really not the solution, stoning might be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just watching last nights episode, it's just heartbreaking that this happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maggie Oliver, the policewoman who quit over the lack of action taken, was on Loose Women today and spoke very passionately about this subject.

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By *ubik cubeMan
over a year ago

Near Liverpool

What's worse about the whole issue is that the relevant authorities didn't persue the claims because they didn't want to upset the ethnic communities. What a load of bollocks!!! Nobody is above the law!!!

Unfortunately though with police budjets being slashed I have friends who work for Greater Manchester and Merseyside police as detective inspectors and they said manchester and Liverpool are already lawless.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Has the sexual health worker 'Tracy' been officially recognised for her part in saving these girls from their abusers? If anyone deserves a knighthood she does, not bloody overpaid footballers!

Arise Dame Tracy!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Has the sexual health worker 'Tracy' been officially recognised for her part in saving these girls from their abusers? If anyone deserves a knighthood she does, not bloody overpaid footballers!

Arise Dame Tracy!"

Agreed very well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has the sexual health worker 'Tracy' been officially recognised for her part in saving these girls from their abusers? If anyone deserves a knighthood she does, not bloody overpaid footballers!

Arise Dame Tracy!"

I agree she should have some sort of regcognition.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maggie Oliver, the policewoman who quit over the lack of action taken, was on Loose Women today and spoke very passionately about this subject. "

Tried to find it on kodi and youtube but to no avail. You could see she had the passion and empathy. ..as I was Googling they where talking about a OBE for her...as stated already I would like to think that Tracy the sex worker was first in the queue for any recognition if gongs are given out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maggie Oliver, the policewoman who quit over the lack of action taken, was on Loose Women today and spoke very passionately about this subject.

Tried to find it on kodi and youtube but to no avail. You could see she had the passion and empathy. ..as I was Googling they where talking about a OBE for her...as stated already I would like to think that Tracy the sex worker was first in the queue for any recognition if gongs are given out.

"

Both of them need to be recognised

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not going to be about for a bit so just a reminder this is on bbc1 in 20 minutes

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Even though we know what was the outcome it's still so disturbing to see the lack of working as a team for the victims.

So called services to help the vulnerable and no one works together.. Passing the buck.

Unfortunately it does look like this has changed '

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watching first episode now as heard a lot about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sara, the NHS sexual health worker got a kick in the teeth... Payment of whistleblowers! Bastards.

CPS re Amber, aligning her with the paedophiles and putting her on the sex offenders register so that they could backtrack, use her evidence without using her as a witness... Bastards!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Even though we know what was the outcome it's still so disturbing to see the lack of working as a team for the victims.

So called services to help the vulnerable and no one works together.. Passing the buck.

Unfortunately it does look like this has changed '"

I think you may have meant to say "doesn't" look like this has changed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sara, the NHS sexual health worker got a kick in the teeth... Payment of whistleblowers! Bastards.

CPS re Amber, aligning her with the paedophiles and putting her on the sex offenders register so that they could backtrack, use her evidence without using her as a witness... Bastards!"

Aye and not one copper was disciplined!

I would charge the cunts for dereliction of duty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sara, the NHS sexual health worker got a kick in the teeth... Payment of whistleblowers! Bastards.

CPS re Amber, aligning her with the paedophiles and putting her on the sex offenders register so that they could backtrack, use her evidence without using her as a witness... Bastards!

Aye and not one copper was disciplined!

I would charge the cunts for dereliction of duty."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sara, the NHS sexual health worker got a kick in the teeth... Payment of whistleblowers! Bastards.

CPS re Amber, aligning her with the paedophiles and putting her on the sex offenders register so that they could backtrack, use her evidence without using her as a witness... Bastards!

Aye and not one copper was disciplined!

I would charge the cunts for dereliction of duty."

They need to start being held accountable like doctors and nurses!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Very powerful drama. Heartbreaking, but I'm sure it still goes on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sara, the NHS sexual health worker got a kick in the teeth... Payment of whistleblowers! Bastards.

CPS re Amber, aligning her with the paedophiles and putting her on the sex offenders register so that they could backtrack, use her evidence without using her as a witness... Bastards!

Aye and not one copper was disciplined!

I would charge the cunts for dereliction of duty."

A charge of Criminal Negligence is also quite feasible. I'm still waiting for the CPS to act on this...

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury


"Even though we know what was the outcome it's still so disturbing to see the lack of working as a team for the victims.

So called services to help the vulnerable and no one works together.. Passing the buck.

Unfortunately it does look like this has changed '

I think you may have meant to say "doesn't" look like this has changed."

Yes I did..

Fat fingers grrr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Horrible, revolting men doing horrible, revolting things to young girls. I'm glad they've been brought to justice. How could they do this to them

Some people put such low value on a young human life. I hope these girls have found peace and love and not gone on to endure further pain and trauma.

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By *wingerlover2018Man
over a year ago

Moors

Whole thing was a disgrace...

Local government muppets need to just be sacked.

Police need to be taught how to drive the CPS and not the other way around.

CPS idiots need to be hauled over the coals.

No matter what those people thought the statement 'Tracy' made was what needed to be heard.. 'there is no such thing as a child prostitute...' And they were not adopting any sort of lifestyle choice!! Fucking idiots!

Let's turn a blind eye to the parents helping and dealing with it, and it wouldn't happen... I know a number of friends that would have just taken the scum out the back and shot them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I struggled to watch this, cried most of the way through it but so glad I watched it until the end. I love Maxine Peake, I just think she's a phenomenal actress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What makes this so sad is that so many people, myself included believe in the system and that it will help those who need helping, but it makes you doubt all of that. I know that other very high profile cases over recent years have also thrown that into chaos too but it's just awful that the people who you put that trust into can be so dismissive. All we can hope that lessons have been learnt and the huge errors that were made are dealt with and acted on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact. "

?????? that told him. I didnt know that fact tho.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Sorry I couldn't reply to the comments last night....I had a surprised holiday

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sara, the NHS sexual health worker got a kick in the teeth... Payment of whistleblowers! Bastards.

CPS re Amber, aligning her with the paedophiles and putting her on the sex offenders register so that they could backtrack, use her evidence without using her as a witness... Bastards!

Aye and not one copper was disciplined!

I would charge the cunts for dereliction of duty.

They need to start being held accountable like doctors and nurses!"

I agree whole heartedly

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Very powerful drama. Heartbreaking, but I'm sure it still goes on."

Oh it does...there was a very big case in Middlesbrough a couple of years back which was on the same vein....but it hardly made the national news.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Even though we know what was the outcome it's still so disturbing to see the lack of working as a team for the victims.

So called services to help the vulnerable and no one works together.. Passing the buck.

Unfortunately it does look like this has changed '

I think you may have meant to say "doesn't" look like this has changed.

Yes I did..

Fat fingers grrr"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whole thing was a disgrace...

Local government muppets need to just be sacked.

Police need to be taught how to drive the CPS and not the other way around.

CPS idiots need to be hauled over the coals.

No matter what those people thought the statement 'Tracy' made was what needed to be heard.. 'there is no such thing as a child prostitute...' And they were not adopting any sort of lifestyle choice!! Fucking idiots!

Let's turn a blind eye to the parents helping and dealing with it, and it wouldn't happen... I know a number of friends that would have just taken the scum out the back and shot them!"

The Police used to take charging decisions and the CPS had to run the case regardless. That authority was taken away from the Police and the CPS won't prosecute anything that they consider stands less than a 50% chance of success. Otherwise it makes their success rate look bad....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Horrible, revolting men doing horrible, revolting things to young girls. I'm glad they've been brought to justice. How could they do this to them

Some people put such low value on a young human life. I hope these girls have found peace and love and not gone on to endure further pain and trauma."

Let's hope some good comes out of this programme

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whole thing was a disgrace...

Local government muppets need to just be sacked.

Police need to be taught how to drive the CPS and not the other way around.

CPS idiots need to be hauled over the coals.

No matter what those people thought the statement 'Tracy' made was what needed to be heard.. 'there is no such thing as a child prostitute...' And they were not adopting any sort of lifestyle choice!! Fucking idiots!

Let's turn a blind eye to the parents helping and dealing with it, and it wouldn't happen... I know a number of friends that would have just taken the scum out the back and shot them!"

I think someone said earlier that they should have had their cock and balls cut off....that would have done for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I struggled to watch this, cried most of the way through it but so glad I watched it until the end. I love Maxine Peake, I just think she's a phenomenal actress.

"

Good acting across the board on this but more importantly it was factual....but for pc reasons they played down on the Pakistanis part in what is happening around the country!!....in my view.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Horrible, revolting men doing horrible, revolting things to young girls. I'm glad they've been brought to justice. How could they do this to them

Some people put such low value on a young human life. I hope these girls have found peace and love and not gone on to endure further pain and trauma.

Let's hope some good comes out of this programme "

It's forced the Police to address an area of crime they previously ignored, but it's still just as prevalent, just google it. There were a load of fresh charges in the same part of the country in March this year..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What makes this so sad is that so many people, myself included believe in the system and that it will help those who need helping, but it makes you doubt all of that. I know that other very high profile cases over recent years have also thrown that into chaos too but it's just awful that the people who you put that trust into can be so dismissive. All we can hope that lessons have been learnt and the huge errors that were made are dealt with and acted on. "

As I've said I hope some good does come from it....but until the pc brigade actually grab the nettle

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm in two minds whether to watch this or not, reading the news reports about it was bad enough.

Sadly this is neither new or isolated, when I was a teenager, the girls in the local children's home used to tell us how they used to earn money from the owners of the indian restaurant and stories of drugs and alcohol. Being a naive teenager I never knew how much to believe or really what to make of it all, but since this all come to light it's I've often thought back with much regret about the conversations I had with them

Just to clarify any ignorance the restaurant in question is Pakistani not Indian

Sorry? The restaurant I was referring to advertises itself as an Indian restaurant, I have no idea what geographical area the owners hail from

Many Indian restaurants advertise as Indian restaurants with the establishment actually being owned and run by Pakistanis selling Halal food. Being half Indian I don't eat halal and always confirm before visiting said establishments.

Many people are ignorant to this fact.

?????? that told him. I didnt know that fact tho."

Don't understand your point.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whole thing was a disgrace...

Local government muppets need to just be sacked.

Police need to be taught how to drive the CPS and not the other way around.

CPS idiots need to be hauled over the coals.

No matter what those people thought the statement 'Tracy' made was what needed to be heard.. 'there is no such thing as a child prostitute...' And they were not adopting any sort of lifestyle choice!! Fucking idiots!

Let's turn a blind eye to the parents helping and dealing with it, and it wouldn't happen... I know a number of friends that would have just taken the scum out the back and shot them!

The Police used to take charging decisions and the CPS had to run the case regardless. That authority was taken away from the Police and the CPS won't prosecute anything that they consider stands less than a 50% chance of success. Otherwise it makes their success rate look bad.... "

To be honest I think it's a higher percentage then that be fore they take it to court.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Horrible, revolting men doing horrible, revolting things to young girls. I'm glad they've been brought to justice. How could they do this to them

Some people put such low value on a young human life. I hope these girls have found peace and love and not gone on to endure further pain and trauma.

Let's hope some good comes out of this programme

It's forced the Police to address an area of crime they previously ignored, but it's still just as prevalent, just google it. There were a load of fresh charges in the same part of the country in March this year.. "

It's still happening all around the country but the news seem to keep it localised for some reason....I wonder why

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a friend who works in child protection. When this first came out she reckoned it was the tip of the iceberg. About a year ago she had ptsd after one of the paedophiles she had helped catch hung himself while on the phone to her. Just fucking horrific all round. "

The first time justice has entered this arena. What a pity his associates haven't followed his lead.

Of course the fact is that the programme isn't about Three Girls, three hundred girls or even three thousand. More like 30,000 as this r*pe, trafficking and organised crime has been committed on an industrial scale, nationwide. And speaking of PTSD guess whose going to get it in five, ten, twenty, thirty years on as well as mental problems, addictions and suicidal thoughts ...that will be the victims of course!?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have a friend who works in child protection. When this first came out she reckoned it was the tip of the iceberg. About a year ago she had ptsd after one of the paedophiles she had helped catch hung himself while on the phone to her. Just fucking horrific all round.

The first time justice has entered this arena. What a pity his associates haven't followed his lead.

Of course the fact is that the programme isn't about Three Girls, three hundred girls or even three thousand. More like 30,000 as this r*pe, trafficking and organised crime has been committed on an industrial scale, nationwide. And speaking of PTSD guess whose going to get it in five, ten, twenty, thirty years on as well as mental problems, addictions and suicidal thoughts ...that will be the victims of course!? "

Since watching this programme I was pretty ignorant to this.

Since I have read up on this and your correct it is enormous!

And as stated a pedophile is a pedophile what ever colour!

But after seeing this and reading up it does seem it is pandemic within the Pakistanis community....and that is not said to start a racist onslaught, I think it needs looking into as it is totally out of hand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I recall this hitting the news when it all came to light. Unfortunately this still goes on today.

I'm just totally disgusted at the treatment by the police and other so called professionals towards the girls.

No support for these girls at all. How can people defend these monsters in court and try to place all the blame on the girls.

Far too many government and other agencies turning a blind eye.

These girls have to live the rest of their lives with what has happened to themand the effects it has on all those around them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched it all remembering when it all hit the news. Was appalled at the way those young girls were treated by the very services that were meant to protect them.

There wasn't a lot of emphasis put on the men who commit the crimes within the programme. Whether that's due to political correctness I don't know, but the way the Pakistani community and a lot of the Asian communities view the western women needs serious attention.

The sexual health team were amazing and deserve medals. And that woman detective was what the police should be about.

Gritty to watch but should be talked about more openly x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought it was excellently put together. Issues like this need to be highlighted and I thought the show did a great job of highlighting the issues within the policing authorities, the social services red tape, issues with safeguarding children boards, multi agency working and general community engagement between all relevant bodies.

If it helps one victim come forward today or in future then it has served its purpose

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I recall this hitting the news when it all came to light. Unfortunately this still goes on today.

I'm just totally disgusted at the treatment by the police and other so called professionals towards the girls.

No support for these girls at all. How can people defend these monsters in court and try to place all the blame on the girls.

Far too many government and other agencies turning a blind eye.

These girls have to live the rest of their lives with what has happened to themand the effects it has on all those around them. "

Yes it boils your blood.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I watched it all remembering when it all hit the news. Was appalled at the way those young girls were treated by the very services that were meant to protect them.

There wasn't a lot of emphasis put on the men who commit the crimes within the programme. Whether that's due to political correctness I don't know, but the way the Pakistani community and a lot of the Asian communities view the western women needs serious attention.

The sexual health team were amazing and deserve medals. And that woman detective was what the police should be about.

Gritty to watch but should be talked about more openly x "

It's true I pulled a poster at the beginning of this thread on racism....but it's not this is actuall happening day in!

It should be discussed more and I make my apologies to the poster for pulling him on this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I thought it was excellently put together. Issues like this need to be highlighted and I thought the show did a great job of highlighting the issues within the policing authorities, the social services red tape, issues with safeguarding children boards, multi agency working and general community engagement between all relevant bodies.

If it helps one victim come forward today or in future then it has served its purpose "

Well said this was well made...if I have any critisim of the show it was how they played down the Pakistani element in this,but on the whole it was well made

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

A petition to acknowledge Sara Rowbotham work has reached 120000

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/21/petition-calls-for-recognition-of-rochdale-sexual-health-worker

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