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"Supply and demand? There's so many single men that it really is a buyers market." That's true , but just because there are so many single guys wanting to play , it doesn't mean they are no good ! | |||
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"The entitled attitude is rife regardless. I guess that's why they have plenty to moan about as no decent person would go near them. " I guess we must be indecent then | |||
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"Supply and demand? There's so many single men that it really is a buyers market." Doesn't mean can't treat them with respect. | |||
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"The entitled attitude is rife regardless. I guess that's why they have plenty to moan about as no decent person would go near them. I guess we must be indecent then " I meant that's why those with the entitled attitudes have plenty to moan about | |||
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"Wow , after reading some of the threads recently from couples complaining about single guys not being suitable for their needs , we really feel it's time to give them a break . We have been on and off fab for six years , and single guys are the main reason we swing . We've had so many fantastic meets with them , and can't understand the attitude of some on here . Surely a single guy is as entitled as anyone else on here to have a good time . So why do so many of you insist on them jumping through hoops and so on ? It's cool if they aren't what you ar even looking for , but if you are , why is there such an entitled attitude from so many couples on here ? " Although we don't play with single guys I agree with what you are saying, some do get a raw deal but I'm keeping quiet now because I was banned from forums for 48hrs last time I spoke out for the sIngle guys lol !! | |||
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"I'm a single guy. I'd like someone to feel me. " *grabby hands* | |||
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"The entitled attitude is rife regardless. I guess that's why they have plenty to moan about as no decent person would go near them. " I saw someone say only today that it's no wonder single men get a bad rep because she got blocked by one. So apparently I'm going to be rude because some other single dude was. It's risible. | |||
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"It takes some work for us single guys to stand out from the crowd, but it also takes some work for females and couples to sift through the detritus to find the gems. I don't believe anyone deserves more sympathy than anyone else to be honest! " I don't think it's sympathy as such . I know I'd hate to be one of the many single guys on here who get ignored or have to pass a series of tests to get a meet . And it's the way so many say that you have to sift through the debris to find a good one that sucks in our opinion . Every guy we have met has had his merits and we've enjoyed every meet . We certainly don't feel like it's an effort to find decent single guys at all . | |||
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"Supply and demand? There's so many single men that it really is a buyers market. That's true , but just because there are so many single guys wanting to play , it doesn't mean they are no good ! " So they shouldn't jump through hoops then, problem sorted, the couples or females that insist on this would soon change their attitudes don't you think? | |||
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"The entitled attitude is rife regardless. I guess that's why they have plenty to moan about as no decent person would go near them. I guess we must be indecent then I meant that's why those with the entitled attitudes have plenty to moan about " Oh ... My mistake | |||
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"It takes some work for us single guys to stand out from the crowd, but it also takes some work for females and couples to sift through the detritus to find the gems. I don't believe anyone deserves more sympathy than anyone else to be honest! I don't think it's sympathy as such . I know I'd hate to be one of the many single guys on here who get ignored or have to pass a series of tests to get a meet . And it's the way so many say that you have to sift through the debris to find a good one that sucks in our opinion . Every guy we have met has had his merits and we've enjoyed every meet . We certainly don't feel like it's an effort to find decent single guys at all ." There's a lot of really rude, disrespectful men on here. That's why people get pissed off. You're lucky if you've only interacted with decent men. Nice guys do exist. | |||
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"Supply and demand? There's so many single men that it really is a buyers market. That's true , but just because there are so many single guys wanting to play , it doesn't mean they are no good ! So they shouldn't jump through hoops then, problem sorted, the couples or females that insist on this would soon change their attitudes don't you think?" Absolutely Trouble is that there will always be those who will because of the supply and demand thing . Sad but true , and the white knights would become redundant too . | |||
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"It takes some work for us single guys to stand out from the crowd, but it also takes some work for females and couples to sift through the detritus to find the gems. I don't believe anyone deserves more sympathy than anyone else to be honest! I don't think it's sympathy as such . I know I'd hate to be one of the many single guys on here who get ignored or have to pass a series of tests to get a meet . And it's the way so many say that you have to sift through the debris to find a good one that sucks in our opinion . Every guy we have met has had his merits and we've enjoyed every meet . We certainly don't feel like it's an effort to find decent single guys at all ." I just think you don't have to meet the ladies/couples that demand you jump through hoops - I've managed to have 3 meets without doing all that. I avoid the ones with ridiculous demands, but if some guys are willing to go through all that then fair enough. It's good that you've been able to find decent single men easily, from what I've heard from Fab friends and the forum in general, it doesn't seem like it's that easy for everyone. | |||
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"It takes some work for us single guys to stand out from the crowd, but it also takes some work for females and couples to sift through the detritus to find the gems. I don't believe anyone deserves more sympathy than anyone else to be honest! I don't think it's sympathy as such . I know I'd hate to be one of the many single guys on here who get ignored or have to pass a series of tests to get a meet . And it's the way so many say that you have to sift through the debris to find a good one that sucks in our opinion . Every guy we have met has had his merits and we've enjoyed every meet . We certainly don't feel like it's an effort to find decent single guys at all . There's a lot of really rude, disrespectful men on here. That's why people get pissed off. You're lucky if you've only interacted with decent men. Nice guys do exist." See now this is odd , because in all the time we have been in here and after countless meets , we haven't come across these really rude and disrespectful men . Of course we get the odd message which isn't ideal , but we get as many from couples and single women of the same nature as we do from single guys . | |||
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"It takes some work for us single guys to stand out from the crowd, but it also takes some work for females and couples to sift through the detritus to find the gems. I don't believe anyone deserves more sympathy than anyone else to be honest! I don't think it's sympathy as such . I know I'd hate to be one of the many single guys on here who get ignored or have to pass a series of tests to get a meet . And it's the way so many say that you have to sift through the debris to find a good one that sucks in our opinion . Every guy we have met has had his merits and we've enjoyed every meet . We certainly don't feel like it's an effort to find decent single guys at all . I just think you don't have to meet the ladies/couples that demand you jump through hoops - I've managed to have 3 meets without doing all that. I avoid the ones with ridiculous demands, but if some guys are willing to go through all that then fair enough. It's good that you've been able to find decent single men easily, from what I've heard from Fab friends and the forum in general, it doesn't seem like it's that easy for everyone." I find it very easy to meet single men here, it's the single women and couples I struggle with. | |||
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"It takes some work for us single guys to stand out from the crowd, but it also takes some work for females and couples to sift through the detritus to find the gems. I don't believe anyone deserves more sympathy than anyone else to be honest! I don't think it's sympathy as such . I know I'd hate to be one of the many single guys on here who get ignored or have to pass a series of tests to get a meet . And it's the way so many say that you have to sift through the debris to find a good one that sucks in our opinion . Every guy we have met has had his merits and we've enjoyed every meet . We certainly don't feel like it's an effort to find decent single guys at all . I just think you don't have to meet the ladies/couples that demand you jump through hoops - I've managed to have 3 meets without doing all that. I avoid the ones with ridiculous demands, but if some guys are willing to go through all that then fair enough. It's good that you've been able to find decent single men easily, from what I've heard from Fab friends and the forum in general, it doesn't seem like it's that easy for everyone." And that's the whole point of this thread . Why is it so hard to find them for those who struggle ? | |||
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"Supply and demand? There's so many single men that it really is a buyers market. Doesn't mean can't treat them with respect. " Exactly! | |||
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"It takes some work for us single guys to stand out from the crowd, but it also takes some work for females and couples to sift through the detritus to find the gems. I don't believe anyone deserves more sympathy than anyone else to be honest! I don't think it's sympathy as such . I know I'd hate to be one of the many single guys on here who get ignored or have to pass a series of tests to get a meet . And it's the way so many say that you have to sift through the debris to find a good one that sucks in our opinion . Every guy we have met has had his merits and we've enjoyed every meet . We certainly don't feel like it's an effort to find decent single guys at all . I just think you don't have to meet the ladies/couples that demand you jump through hoops - I've managed to have 3 meets without doing all that. I avoid the ones with ridiculous demands, but if some guys are willing to go through all that then fair enough. It's good that you've been able to find decent single men easily, from what I've heard from Fab friends and the forum in general, it doesn't seem like it's that easy for everyone. And that's the whole point of this thread . Why is it so hard to find them for those who struggle ?" I suspect many forum people would say we aren't discerning about who we meet (we fuck anyone). | |||
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"I don't know how I would feel if most messages I sent were deleted, after taking time to read profiles and write something appropriate. I have it easy, as do most women and couples on here, compared to most men. " And there it is, reading profiles and sending appropriate messages... A big shout out for the very many single guys that do this (as opposed to the ones that just carpet bomb everyone!), they deserve a reply, even if it is a polite no thank you. | |||
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"I've been chatting to some lovely men today. Most I've known for ages. I went for a cooked brekkie Social with a great guy this morning too. I don't understand why so many just tar all men with the same brush. Pretty short sighted really. " I get the impression that people are pissed off because they can't find their Mr Perfect and take it out on the rest of the men here. | |||
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"I don't know how I would feel if most messages I sent were deleted, after taking time to read profiles and write something appropriate. I have it easy, as do most women and couples on here, compared to most men. And there it is, reading profiles and sending appropriate messages... A big shout out for the very many single guys that do this (as opposed to the ones that just carpet bomb everyone!), they deserve a reply, even if it is a polite no thank you. " Maybe the carpet bombers got fed up reading profiles, sending appropriate messages and having them deleted. I think I'd lose heart myself. | |||
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"I do feel sorry for the single men sometimes. Some couples and females feel they can say what they want because the single males can be replaced easily with someone who will happily jump through their hoops. " The harshest thing I have ever said to a single male is when they have messaged me with 'I love your profile and pics can we chat?' when they only have a 1 line like 'here for fun' and either no pics or a cock pic, so I reply with 'well your profile is shite so come back to me once you have one' It works both ways, as I can't be arsed dealing with the inadequate | |||
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"Hey I got banned from the forums for sticking up for the single guys ! " Yeah you said before. Must have been a corker to get a ban | |||
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"I don't know how I would feel if most messages I sent were deleted, after taking time to read profiles and write something appropriate. I have it easy, as do most women and couples on here, compared to most men. And there it is, reading profiles and sending appropriate messages... A big shout out for the very many single guys that do this (as opposed to the ones that just carpet bomb everyone!), they deserve a reply, even if it is a polite no thank you. Maybe the carpet bombers got fed up reading profiles, sending appropriate messages and having them deleted. I think I'd lose heart myself. " Fair point... all single men shouldn't be tarred with the same brush, any more than anyone else on here should. | |||
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"Hey I got banned from the forums for sticking up for the single guys ! Yeah you said before. Must have been a corker to get a ban " Thank you for acknowledging my protest lol I was starting to feel like one of the poor single guys beIng ignored | |||
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"Hey I got banned from the forums for sticking up for the single guys ! " I suspect it probably had more to do with how you stuck up for them. By the way, the first rule of ban-club is don't talk about ban-club. | |||
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"Hey I got banned from the forums for sticking up for the single guys ! I suspect it probably had more to do with how you stuck up for them. By the way, the first rule of ban-club is don't talk about ban-club." Ooh ok I'm still learning about all this forum stuff that's probably why I get into trouble so sorry big brother !!!! | |||
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"I don't know how I would feel if most messages I sent were deleted, after taking time to read profiles and write something appropriate. I have it easy, as do most women and couples on here, compared to most men. " It's a little rough at the start. But I mainly stick to going to clubs and socials (the odd flirt on a forum) seems to help match me up with friendly enough couples and singles. But there is a unaddressed negativity against single guys. Sometimes you can feel it when you walk into a room. | |||
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"I do feel sorry for the single men sometimes. Some couples and females feel they can say what they want because the single males can be replaced easily with someone who will happily jump through their hoops. The harshest thing I have ever said to a single male is when they have messaged me with 'I love your profile and pics can we chat?' when they only have a 1 line like 'here for fun' and either no pics or a cock pic, so I reply with 'well your profile is shite so come back to me once you have one' It works both ways, as I can't be arsed dealing with the inadequate " Of course those single males deserve it and are really asking for it. I too have sent some shitty messages when I've had enough of them. They were all shitty to me in the first place to provoke such a response from me. | |||
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"I'm a single guy. I'd like someone to feel me. " I would, given half a chance. But single men are the only reason i'm here too. When i'm meeting that is | |||
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"We generally don't care for couples/single guys/single girls getting into a competition about who's worse or who's sticking up for who. There's respectful people and entitled arseholes, regardless of gender and relationship status. And passive-aggresive whinging is far from an attractive trait. We don't make anyone jump through hoops, we have a way of doing things molded by experience. If they don't like it, they can move on to someone else. I don't appreciate my wife being seen as stuck up just because she won't fuck a guy. " I certainly haven't suggested anyone is stuck up for not wanting to fuck anyone ! My main point was that there seems to be a fair few couples saying they can't find a suitable single guy , suggesting there is a problem somewhere . We fail to see this at all , and we have high standards too . | |||
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"I think some couples feel that swinging is reserved for couples and all these single people aren't "real" swingers. Which is silly as without the singles a lot of threesome fantasies would be left unfulfilled. Single males should be treated as an equal party in any three way situation. " Not just single males...We treat all our guests equally. | |||
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"We generally don't care for couples/single guys/single girls getting into a competition about who's worse or who's sticking up for who. There's respectful people and entitled arseholes, regardless of gender and relationship status. And passive-aggresive whinging is far from an attractive trait. We don't make anyone jump through hoops, we have a way of doing things molded by experience. If they don't like it, they can move on to someone else. I don't appreciate my wife being seen as stuck up just because she won't fuck a guy. I certainly haven't suggested anyone is stuck up for not wanting to fuck anyone ! My main point was that there seems to be a fair few couples saying they can't find a suitable single guy , suggesting there is a problem somewhere . We fail to see this at all , and we have high standards too ." I know you didn't say that or suggest it, but others did. And I never suggested you don't have high standards. | |||
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"Wow , after reading some of the threads recently from couples complaining about single guys not being suitable for their needs , we really feel it's time to give them a break . We have been on and off fab for six years , and single guys are the main reason we swing . We've had so many fantastic meets with them , and can't understand the attitude of some on here . Surely a single guy is as entitled as anyone else on here to have a good time . So why do so many of you insist on them jumping through hoops and so on ? It's cool if they aren't what you ar even looking for , but if you are , why is there such an entitled attitude from so many couples on here ? " thankyou much appreciated although havnt experienced too much negativity yet | |||
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"but some guys will stand their own ground and reject offers too. I myself, won't bow to demands set in profiles, I just don't contact them if I read something I don't like, yes, I actually read the profile text, and not just look at the pics and go all week at the knees and hit the message button." This is me also, I'll read profiles and if I like what I read/see then I'll write an appropriate message. I just won't jump because someone tells me to. That probably means I lose out on meets, but it's not a loss if I'm subject to a whole list of demands. I just see that as dodging a bullet | |||
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"Well yes I agree with the op, but that is because the couples and ladies get a lot of messages from single guys who would fuck anything and just want to fuck, so this makes them feel like superstars, the couples and single ladies who are actually nothing to be honest with you will now come on here and start saying negative things about people showing you love. These couples and single ladies who say all these negative things about single guys are not even fine , how I wish they could come into my crowd and see the reverse of the scenario where couples and single ladies are the ones chasing single guys because of their quality and the guys are saying no, this will make them keep silent. Me and my friends have standards and we don't just fuck anything, we reject pussy and are very selective.If your attitude is bad that is an instant no from us. I am interested in the whole woman not just pussy so if any lady steps to me with that pussy card that is an instant no from me, I personally don't talk with anyone at the parties for more than 3 minutes anyway, if we can't close the deal in 3 minutes, am gone. " | |||
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"Well yes I agree with the op, but that is because the couples and ladies get a lot of messages from single guys who would fuck anything and just want to fuck, so this makes them feel like superstars, the couples and single ladies who are actually nothing to be honest with you will now come on here and start saying negative things about people showing you love. These couples and single ladies who say all these negative things about single guys are not even fine , how I wish they could come into my crowd and see the reverse of the scenario where couples and single ladies are the ones chasing single guys because of their quality and the guys are saying no, this will make them keep silent. Me and my friends have standards and we don't just fuck anything, we reject pussy and are very selective.If your attitude is bad that is an instant no from us. I am interested in the whole woman not just pussy so if any lady steps to me with that pussy card that is an instant no from me, I personally don't talk with anyone at the parties for more than 3 minutes anyway, if we can't close the deal in 3 minutes, am gone. " Go you! A whole 3 minutes of investment! I hope you take your time in other ways? You made me laugh anyway lol | |||
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"Well yes I agree with the op, but that is because the couples and ladies get a lot of messages from single guys who would fuck anything and just want to fuck, so this makes them feel like superstars, the couples and single ladies who are actually nothing to be honest with you will now come on here and start saying negative things about people showing you love. These couples and single ladies who say all these negative things about single guys are not even fine , how I wish they could come into my crowd and see the reverse of the scenario where couples and single ladies are the ones chasing single guys because of their quality and the guys are saying no, this will make them keep silent. Me and my friends have standards and we don't just fuck anything, we reject pussy and are very selective.If your attitude is bad that is an instant no from us. I am interested in the whole woman not just pussy so if any lady steps to me with that pussy card that is an instant no from me, I personally don't talk with anyone at the parties for more than 3 minutes anyway, if we can't close the deal in 3 minutes, am gone. " My word - such class - how I aspire to your to the exclusive appeal of your crowd | |||
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"I feel for them too, they seem to have a lot of hoops to jump through and are apparently not allowed to have their own wants and needs. I like men " I like women god we're a match made in heaven | |||
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"I don't know how I would feel if most messages I sent were deleted, after taking time to read profiles and write something appropriate. I have it easy, as do most women and couples on here, compared to most men. " We, personally, don't have it easy on here, even as one of these supposedly magic couples . Most of our messages get deleted. We just move on without whinging on the forums. | |||
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"Well yes I agree with the op, but that is because the couples and ladies get a lot of messages from single guys who would fuck anything and just want to fuck, so this makes them feel like superstars, the couples and single ladies who are actually nothing to be honest with you will now come on here and start saying negative things about people showing you love. These couples and single ladies who say all these negative things about single guys are not even fine , how I wish they could come into my crowd and see the reverse of the scenario where couples and single ladies are the ones chasing single guys because of their quality and the guys are saying no, this will make them keep silent. Me and my friends have standards and we don't just fuck anything, we reject pussy and are very selective.If your attitude is bad that is an instant no from us. I am interested in the whole woman not just pussy so if any lady steps to me with that pussy card that is an instant no from me, I personally don't talk with anyone at the parties for more than 3 minutes anyway, if we can't close the deal in 3 minutes, am gone. Go you! A whole 3 minutes of investment! I hope you take your time in other ways? You made me laugh anyway lol" That is the honest truth, the 3 minutes am talking about is not with an ugly girl, this is with an extremely beautiful girl that most guys will just melt when they see her, I really feel for some single guys when I see ladies I would not even talk to , throwing insults at these guys. Guys don't realise there are more women in this world than there are men. I personally see the value in myself and not in the ladies pussy so I am not bothered if a lady rejects me ,infact the quicker she rejects me the better so I can move on quickly to the next beautiful lady. This is how I step to beautiful ladies and couples at parties, I am only interested in the yes , am not bothered by the no,if what I say in that 3 minute time is not cool and they don't want me thats fine, as for me I am gone in that space of 3 minutes, I just move on, I know what to say based on the lady and I see the value in me and not in the ladies pussy ,that is how I present myself, of course she would already see me moving from other people before I get to her and that is me. This is not being arrogant ,this is how I play my game. | |||
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"Well yes I agree with the op, but that is because the couples and ladies get a lot of messages from single guys who would fuck anything and just want to fuck, so this makes them feel like superstars, the couples and single ladies who are actually nothing to be honest with you will now come on here and start saying negative things about people showing you love. These couples and single ladies who say all these negative things about single guys are not even fine , how I wish they could come into my crowd and see the reverse of the scenario where couples and single ladies are the ones chasing single guys because of their quality and the guys are saying no, this will make them keep silent. Me and my friends have standards and we don't just fuck anything, we reject pussy and are very selective.If your attitude is bad that is an instant no from us. I am interested in the whole woman not just pussy so if any lady steps to me with that pussy card that is an instant no from me, I personally don't talk with anyone at the parties for more than 3 minutes anyway, if we can't close the deal in 3 minutes, am gone. My word - such class - how I aspire to your to the exclusive appeal of your crowd " Well we guys are not all the same, I have noticed most guys who grew up around women are trained to take insults from ladies and kiss their ass yes. However, if as a guy you grew up around successful men , you are trained to respect women and be nice to them however you would see the value in yourself as a man and therefore you are not going to put yourself in any position where you can be insulted cause you would have seen ladies struggling for the attention of the successful men you grew up around and you would have learnt to value yourself as a man and respect yourself . This is the core difference. If a lady is not fine you would not bother with her because you know she is most likely to throw insults your way. This is just how it is, the beautiful ladies are always very nice , that is what I noticed. | |||
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"One behaviour feeds another, the desperation often encourages the 'treat them like performing seals'. If you know your worth, you will conduct yourself appropriately and allow no one to speak down to you." As some one said earlier, getting lots of desperate emails could make the recipients big heated. But that doesn't happen with us, we just find it depressing. | |||
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"One behaviour feeds another, the desperation often encourages the 'treat them like performing seals'. If you know your worth, you will conduct yourself appropriately and allow no one to speak down to you." Block and move on is how I roll | |||
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