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Very thin models in the media

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is it ok?

Should they be banned?

If it's unhealthy (ie they are anorexic), should models with excess body fat be banned too?

Discuss

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Feels like and exam question

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"Feels like and exam question "

Fail for you, you haven't directly tackled the subject matter.

OP, I think both extremities of weight and their portrayal can be unhealthy, especially when used in such a potentially influencing field. Banned? I'd say yes.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Feels like and exam question

Fail for you, you haven't directly tackled the subject matter.

OP, I think both extremities of weight and their portrayal can be unhealthy, especially when used in such a potentially influencing field. Banned? I'd say yes."

Oh no Miss I'll try harder next time

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OP, I think both extremities of weight and their portrayal can be unhealthy, especially when used in such a potentially influencing field. Banned? I'd say yes."

Interesting, where would you draw the line?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I just like to see healthy models.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

It's actually a great topic for an essay, and we mustn't forget the role Photoshop plays in all of this

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

whilst they arent banned they are certainly investigated by the ASA i believe.

I'm sure that vogue or someone like that were investigated recently regarding the weight of a model they used in one of their magazines.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"OP, I think both extremities of weight and their portrayal can be unhealthy, especially when used in such a potentially influencing field. Banned? I'd say yes.

Interesting, where would you draw the line?"

I don't work in the health profession so I'm not quite sure. I don't think it's as simple as 4 stones over/under weight though. It depends on the effect both have on the body.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is ok, but it should be determined per person if they are healthy and not too skinny, but still in good shape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But some very slim tall models would say they are healthy so do you ban those?

Some are slim through genetics others because they don't eat,

I cannot see it ever changing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely fat ones wouldn't fit between the pages?

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely it's healthier to portray the full cross section of society, and use it as a talking point to educates kids on what healthy is rather than have young minds think only the current air brushed beauties are normal?

And how on earth do you set upper and lower limits? Weight is irrelevant, height affects how you carry it, BMI is pretty much a nonsense, not sure what measure you could use.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Surely fat ones wouldn't fit between the pages?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No neither should be banned

I think there is room in both the model and fashion industry for both plus the average size person

Going a little off the original post I know but

What I would like to see is different size models modelling clothing. A dress on a size 8/10 person is going to look different on a size 14/16 and on a size 20/22

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Another question...

If anorexic models do damage to impressionable young people... by the same logic is showing women of size 18+ not doing the same by "normalising" being very overweight?

If all models were say a size 8 or 10, would that not represent a pretty healthy ideal for all?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Another question...

If anorexic models do damage to impressionable young people... by the same logic is showing women of size 18+ not doing the same by "normalising" being very overweight?

If all models were say a size 8 or 10, would that not represent a pretty healthy ideal for all?"

how often do you see 18+ models in fashion mags?

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

Nothing wrong with size zero models. only haters berate them.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"Another question...

If anorexic models do damage to impressionable young people... by the same logic is showing women of size 18+ not doing the same by "normalising" being very overweight?

If all models were say a size 8 or 10, would that not represent a pretty healthy ideal for all?

how often do you see 18+ models in fashion mags?"

Or on catwalks modelling haute couture?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

There's been quite a lot of "plus sized" modelling recently on the telly, social media etc. It is out there.

Nobody should hate their own body, but by the same token is normalising, accepting or even celebrating being very obese a good thing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nothing wrong with size zero models. only haters berate them."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's been quite a lot of "plus sized" modelling recently on the telly, social media etc. It is out there.

Nobody should hate their own body, but by the same token is normalising, accepting or even celebrating being very obese a good thing?"
Have anyone noticed adeles weight loss? Have she fallen to the medias hands?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"There's been quite a lot of "plus sized" modelling recently on the telly, social media etc. It is out there.

Nobody should hate their own body, but by the same token is normalising, accepting or even celebrating being very obese a good thing?"

what adverts? i have seen some with average sized women on them but i would not say they were 18+, i am thinking of simply be ads here.

promoting poor health at either end o the spectrum is bad but i believe (and i may be incorrect) but there are a lot more irreversible consequences from being very underweight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't seen any models that are large to the same extreme as models that are thin.

Either way, if the fashion industry just concentrated on using girls that look good and are healthy, it wouldn't matter what size they were.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I haven't seen any models that are large to the same extreme as models that are thin.

Either way, if the fashion industry just concentrated on using girls that look good and are healthy, it wouldn't matter what size they were. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand the stigma towards skinny models in the media but it also draws stigma towards naturally slim women.

Personally I have been attacked bot verbally and physically because I am naturally slim.

I think instead of banning a certain look from the media, we need to change how we view people. Everyone is beautiful in their own way whether they are a size two or a size 32. We need to start celebrating people for who they are as opposed to what they look like.

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people like kardashian's don't help this matter! Social media is just marketing fake people to make easy money off who look them as role models.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think people like kardashian's don't help this matter! Social media is just marketing fake people to make easy money off who look them as role models."

They're hardly skinny?

I think the modelling industry is getting better. The look is for athletic rather than thin these days. And although I believe there's still a lot of fasting and fagging, I don't believe it's as bad as it was. I love the simply be ad. Proper, sexy women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The industry should employ more rigorously enforced best practice to ensure those modelling aren't in the throws of a debilitating eating disorder.

It's kind of insidious.. these very ill models being glorified and presented as a beauty ideal thereby promoting it to the impressionable consumer.

Different body types have been Heald up as archetypes of Beauty throughout the ages.. the Romans considered big penis's unattractive and the mark of being from am inferior background for example..

50s pin-ups were always very womanly looking with curves for days. I don't favour one body type being held up as the definitive epitome of beauty.. this seems to be how the media work though.

Deprecate one type of physicality in favour of another..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The extremes yes. Don't know how they'd monitor it. They never show very big models anyway. They are all curvy Amazon types. No men with a bit of a podgy belly or women with bingo wings.

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Plus size models are never actually obese anyway.

As someone who is obese i shop with a variety of plus size retailers. On most of their websites they give the model's measurements and dress size. The model never wears anything larger than a size 14.

I wouldn't like to see any model banned because they are either too slim or too fat. I would like to see more variety of sizes of models used.

As things are the message that is sent out is that being very slim is beautiful and something to aspire too. By using people of all sizes it says all people can be beautiful no matter what size they are.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Another question...

If anorexic models do damage to impressionable young people... by the same logic is showing women of size 18+ not doing the same by "normalising" being very overweight?

If all models were say a size 8 or 10, would that not represent a pretty healthy ideal for all?"

No because not everyone can be a size 8 or 10. Just like we're all different heights we're all different sizes and shapes.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Super slim women are fine, what is wrong is Photoshopping models to perfection so perfection seems real.

For me that's the issue

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No because not everyone can be a size 8 or 10. Just like we're all different heights we're all different sizes and shapes."

Granted yes we can't change our heights.

But we can change our body shape through diet and excercise.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"No because not everyone can be a size 8 or 10. Just like we're all different heights we're all different sizes and shapes.

Granted yes we can't change our heights.

But we can change our body shape through diet and excercise."

Not to the extend that everyone is a size 8-10, that is not possible.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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catwalk models can be any size they want, they're gonna look stupid in what they're wearing anyway.

thin is natural for some people but for clothes what anyone can wear there should be models in all sizes that are selling so people can get an idea what they will look like in the clothes.

i reckon someone will bring an app out where you can try clothes on online just by putting your stats in or taking a full length body pic on and then transferring the clothes that way.

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By *BlueTooMan
over a year ago

eskbank

France have now said that extra thin models need a doctors certificate of health. surely this should apply for any extreme size and it is a pragmatic approach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Feels like and exam question "

Pass, next question please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems to be now that the models used to promote clothing ranges aimed at everyday,woman-in-street brands(as apposed to hi-end fashion brands)are the more average/curvy figured,after all thats the market they are trying to aim their sales at

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No because not everyone can be a size 8 or 10. Just like we're all different heights we're all different sizes and shapes.

Granted yes we can't change our heights.

But we can change our body shape through diet and excercise.

Not to the extend that everyone is a size 8-10, that is not possible."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When no criminal offence is involved I'm not a fan of reactionary blanket banning .......

I prefer discouraging inappropriate behaviours of free will which can negatively influence vulnerable individuals...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You cannot determine the health of someone by simply looking at them. The notion that you're a healthier person just because you're you're a size 8 and I'm a size 22 isn't always true.

Therefore, a whole range of bodies need to be represented in the media. Extremeties are very rarely healthy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another question...

If anorexic models do damage to impressionable young people... by the same logic is showing women of size 18+ not doing the same by "normalising" being very overweight?

If all models were say a size 8 or 10, would that not represent a pretty healthy ideal for all?"

Also, size 18+ models aren't necessarily very overweight. Body shapes and height can mean someone who has big breasts is a size 18. I'd suggest taking a look at some plus-size models for a proper perspective.

Like I said, size 8-10 isn't a healthy ideal for all.

You're looking at sizing in a very black and white way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When no criminal offence is involved I'm not a fan of reactionary blanket banning .......

I prefer discouraging inappropriate behaviours of free will which can negatively influence vulnerable individuals... "

Preach

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