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By *rstokelover OP Man
over a year ago

kidsgrove

Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Loads. Not animals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody love it shotguns though for us anything that is on quarry list is fair game but mainly pigeons and geese

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By *ot40sCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

I don't know how anyone could blatantly admit to wanting to shoot deers or any other innocent animal for that matter it's barbaric !!!! Hold your head in shame tut tut !!!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

10m air pistol for me. Enjoy it now before some knee jerk reaction bans it.

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By *rstokelover OP Man
over a year ago

kidsgrove

"Bloody love it shotguns though for us anything that is on quarry list is fair game but mainly pigeons and geese"
. Very good ! Can't beat going the Orkney isles for the geese

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guns only have one function and that's something which doesn't capture my interest

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?"

I look good in a deer stalker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't know how anyone could blatantly admit to wanting to shoot deers or any other innocent animal for that matter it's barbaric !!!! Hold your head in shame tut tut !!!"

Totally agree it's disgusting tells me alot about people x

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By *ot40sCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"I don't know how anyone could blatantly admit to wanting to shoot deers or any other innocent animal for that matter it's barbaric !!!! Hold your head in shame tut tut !!!

Totally agree it's disgusting tells me alot about people x"

If people want to play with guns then go clay pigeon shooting or to a rifle range there's no need to kill !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't know how anyone could blatantly admit to wanting to shoot deers or any other innocent animal for that matter it's barbaric !!!! Hold your head in shame tut tut !!!

Totally agree it's disgusting tells me alot about people x

If people want to play with guns then go clay pigeon shooting or to a rifle range there's no need to kill !!! "

Yeah I guess wounding a clay just doesn't have the same sense of satisfaction ....

Because obviously recreational gun users always get a kill shot in ...

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

I used to rifle shoot competitively, but not for a while now. Won a few trophies.

I don't shoot animals, just targets, but then I don't judge those who do either. Most people I know who shoot 'for sport' eat what they kill, so I don't see it any different than fishing in that respect.

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By *rstokelover OP Man
over a year ago

kidsgrove

"I used to rifle shoot competitively, but not for a while now. Won a few trophies.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

I enjoy shooting, but clays and targets. Killing an animal for sport holds no appeal to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?"

Presumably deer management?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The shooting of certain animal species is requi_ed to maintain control of the population, and maintain the animals natural habitat. Shooting for this reason I think is perfectly acceptable so long as it is a clean shot that kills humainly and doesnt cause the animal to suffer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yup enjoy it. Was gutted that my folks handed my rifle into the cops though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yup, but i strictly only shoot what i'm gonna eat

my old man used to go to organised shoots as a beater, that's just driving hund_eds of birds over a a line of guns, thousands shot on a good day and the guns only took a brace of birds home off that, that to me is target practice or slaughter...if your gonna kill it, get it eaten, don't just do it for the 'sport' there's no sport in potting fattened birds that are being directed over your head

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management? "

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

My neighbour manages the cull for an estate in the forest (part of the way they make money is having guided stalking), but he still has to take a certain number of deer - the population of deer has exploded in recent years.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you. "

Yes, I wasn't being funny. I know the shooting laws. I was making the point, a bit obtusely...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you. "

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you. "

I agree it'd be odd to eat meat and find it unacceptable. Personally I meant I wouldn't enjoy shooting animals as per OP's question. I'm afraid I do enjoy eating them and appreciate that I should be able to kill what I eat.

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Vile pastime.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals"

Cheaper? A cartridge costs about 40p, I don't know anyone who has been charged for shooting pigeons or rabbits.

I guess that the driven shoots are slightly different, but as long as the pheasants are eaten, I don't care what the shooter is thinking - the slaughterman in the abbotoir isn't going to keep all the animals for his dinner either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals

Cheaper? A cartridge costs about 40p, I don't know anyone who has been charged for shooting pigeons or rabbits.

Well I'm afraid I used to be one of that group for awhile, for me it was a competition against others.

I ate what I eat but 80% of it I gave away as I was killing for ten in the end

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By *ydrewMan
over a year ago

Salisbury

I used to do a lot of clay pigeon shooting. Sold my guns when went abroad now back no shooting ground nearby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't enjoy killing any animal, shooting, or fishing, or hunting (sitting around on a cold, wet horse waiting for something to happen and when you're qualifying point to pointers, that's crap), but it's sad that so many don't realise animal and land management is important.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I don't know how anyone could blatantly admit to wanting to shoot deers or any other innocent animal for that matter it's barbaric !!!! Hold your head in shame tut tut !!!

Totally agree it's disgusting tells me alot about people x

If people want to play with guns then go clay pigeon shooting or to a rifle range there's no need to kill !!! "

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals

Cheaper? A cartridge costs about 40p, I don't know anyone who has been charged for shooting pigeons or rabbits.

Well I'm afraid I used to be one of that group for awhile, for me it was a competition against others.

I ate what I eat but 80% of it I gave away as I was killing for ten in the end"

I used to beat on my ex-landlords shoot. I was the kind of bloke who backed his pick-up into the game larder at the end of the day and saved my landlord the bother of finding homes for the birds. The decent ones were frozen for me, any others fed my dogs.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I don't know how anyone could blatantly admit to wanting to shoot deers or any other innocent animal for that matter it's barbaric !!!! Hold your head in shame tut tut !!!

Totally agree it's disgusting tells me alot about people x

If people want to play with guns then go clay pigeon shooting or to a rifle range there's no need to kill !!!

Talking of wastes of money....

All that time, effort and expense to have made a mess and come home dinnerless. Mildly pointless if you ask me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bloody love it shotguns though for us anything that is on quarry list is fair game but mainly pigeons and geese. Very good ! Can't beat going the Orkney isles for the geese "

I'm most fortunate can do it close to home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals

Cheaper? A cartridge costs about 40p, I don't know anyone who has been charged for shooting pigeons or rabbits.

Well I'm afraid I used to be one of that group for awhile, for me it was a competition against others.

I ate what I eat but 80% of it I gave away as I was killing for ten in the end

I stopped when I realised I had more chest freezers than a person should have.

I say stopped, I mean stopped being competitive about it.

I haven't been shooting for years not much skill requi_ed blasting fat peasants with a shotgun, I was always the skilled killer type

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't see the appeal in this myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not about wanten killing for the sake of it for sport and for the table,not all meat comes from super markets

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals

Cheaper? A cartridge costs about 40p, I don't know anyone who has been charged for shooting pigeons or rabbits.

Well I'm afraid I used to be one of that group for awhile, for me it was a competition against others.

I ate what I eat but 80% of it I gave away as I was killing for ten in the end

I stopped when I realised I had more chest freezers than a person should have.

I say stopped, I mean stopped being competitive about it.

I haven't been shooting for years not much skill requi_ed blasting fat peasants with a shotgun, I was always the skilled killer type

Haha - I was a lowly beater, so only got to shoot on beaters' day. I only ever had one chest freezer, but I do have sheepdogs to feed.....

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Not about wanten killing for the sake of it for sport and for the table,not all meat comes from super markets "

Quite. And since eating meat is perfectly legal, it behoves a person at least once in their life (vegans excepted) to actually take responsability for doing the killing themselves.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Not about wanten killing for the sake of it for sport and for the table,not all meat comes from super markets

Quite. And since eating meat is perfectly legal, it behoves a person at least once in their life (vegans excepted) to actually take responsability for doing the killing themselves. "

Why when I can go to the butchers)/supermarket and get it from there? I eat meat,but I know I'm not capable of killing an animal,if my life depended on it then yes I would have to. Mean as though my life doesn't depend on it though I shall leave the slaughter up to others that can do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have a friends Son that does the beating for a local shoot and we often get given a brace of pheasants, as much as I'm a meat eater I cannot bring myself to eat them.

My Son does clay pigeon shooting, but I can't see myself allowing him to go on the pheasant shoots.

In an age where people like to know where their meat comes from; I'm happy with it just coming from the local butcher or Tesco, ultimately; as long as you eat what you kill then I think that is perfectly acceptable.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"We have a friends Son that does the beating for a local shoot and we often get given a brace of pheasants, as much as I'm a meat eater I cannot bring myself to eat them. "

Why?

They don't look that different from chickens and you presumably eat those.

The butchers in town used to sell braces of pheasant in the feather when I was a a student for about £3 a brace, I lived off them in the season - two almost chicken sized free range birds for £1.50 each...bargain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have a friends Son that does the beating for a local shoot and we often get given a brace of pheasants, as much as I'm a meat eater I cannot bring myself to eat them.

Why?

They don't look that different from chickens and you presumably eat those.

I have no idea why, I just find utterly off putting. It annoys my husband no end. Admittedly I'm not a huge fan of game meats anyway, or offal come to that. But something in my head just says no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes do a lot here. The geese here like vermin, destroying and fouling the grass for the sheep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals

Cheaper? A cartridge costs about 40p, I don't know anyone who has been charged for shooting pigeons or rabbits.

Well I'm afraid I used to be one of that group for awhile, for me it was a competition against others.

I ate what I eat but 80% of it I gave away as I was killing for ten in the end

I stopped when I realised I had more chest freezers than a person should have.

I say stopped, I mean stopped being competitive about it.

I haven't been shooting for years not much skill requi_ed blasting fat peasants with a shotgun, I was always the skilled killer type

Haha - I was a lowly beater, so only got to shoot on beaters' day. I only ever had one chest freezer, but I do have sheepdogs to feed....."
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I used to kill alot of moles for locals but do you know what I found, catching the fuckers was the most addictive thing ever, especially the tricky older ones, it takes a certain skill, knowledge and patience and I found myself in a battle of wits with one in particular, of course it probably wasn't the same one but in my mind it became a war of attrition.

I kept him in a bucket in my front room for about two weeks until releasing him into this couples prized landscaped garden one night.

They really annoyed me because they used to moan to the council, little fucker dug up the entire place

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?

Presumably deer management?

Course, you can't go wandering around with a rifle shooting deer willy nilly, there are hoops to jump through.

I used to get out a bit with the shotgun, mostly pigeons and rabbits, but I just seem not to have the time these days.

I find it odd that people who eat meat find shooting unacceptable - If you eat meat, all you are doing is paying someone else to do the shooting for you.

But lets be honest, theres an awful lot of "shooters" and I mean an awful lot who aren't in it for shooting their latest meal, I mean tesco is just quicker easier and cheaper.

This lot are in it for the killing of other animals

Cheaper? A cartridge costs about 40p, I don't know anyone who has been charged for shooting pigeons or rabbits.

Well I'm afraid I used to be one of that group for awhile, for me it was a competition against others.

I ate what I eat but 80% of it I gave away as I was killing for ten in the end

I stopped when I realised I had more chest freezers than a person should have.

I say stopped, I mean stopped being competitive about it.

I haven't been shooting for years not much skill requi_ed blasting fat peasants with a shotgun, I was always the skilled killer type

Haha - I was a lowly beater, so only got to shoot on beaters' day. I only ever had one chest freezer, but I do have sheepdogs to feed......

I kept him in a bucket in my front room for about two weeks until releasing him into this couples prized landscaped garden one night.

They really annoyed me because they used to moan to the council, little fucker dug up the entire place

Grrrrr moles! Im trying carbon monoxide at the moment. Wish me luck!

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

Yes.... I often shoot

Infact this morning I shot 2 magpies and 1 crow in the garden.

Am surrounded by fields and permission to shoot on it all. Magpies, crows, jackdaws, pigeons, squirrels and foxes. Foxing tomorrow night if nothing else comes up.

Have HW100 air rifle

Few 12g shottys

.22 ruger 10/22 semi auto RF

.17 hmr Sako Quad wood varmint (nearly always use this)

.222CF Sako 75 wood varmint for fox

Been shooting for about 25 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weapons trained, but have the conscience NOT to shoot defenceless animals. And I don't like people who do.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Yes.... I often shoot

Infact this morning I shot 2 magpies and 1 crow in the garden.

Am surrounded by fields and permission to shoot on it all. Magpies, crows, jackdaws, pigeons, squirrels and foxes. Foxing tomorrow night if nothing else comes up.

Have HW100 air rifle

Few 12g shottys

.22 ruger 10/22 semi auto RF

.17 hmr Sako Quad wood varmint (nearly always use this)

.222CF Sako 75 wood varmint for fox

Been shooting for about 25 years

What do you do with everything you kill?

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

What do you do with everything you kill?"

Foxes, farmer burns them or buries them.

Pigeons, I re-arrange as decoys to bring more in, then leave them to attract / bait foxes

crows, magpies, squirrels, etc. I leave in fields for buzzard to eat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must say, I've not seen many Deer roaming the streets of kidsgrove....

Maybe the bounder is shooting old dears with their shopping carts

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I enjoy 22 target shooting, but at the moment I am doing a lot of either airsoft or paintballing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tried a few guns when I was I the states. Went to a range and it was an experience.

But I'd never shoot an animal for sport. I just don't get the mentality of it.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

What do you do with everything you kill?

Foxes, farmer burns them or buries them.

Pigeons, I re-arrange as decoys to bring more in, then leave them to attract / bait foxes

crows, magpies, squirrels, etc. I leave in fields for buzzard to eat. "

So you just enjoy the killing aspect?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't fi_ed a weapon since I left the army over ten years ago and have no intention of doing so...I've seen the damage they can do. Leave the animals alone they haven't done you any harm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a bit far removed from the OP but I enjoy airsoft but haven't been for ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've only been shooting a could've of times. I seem to have a talent for the shotgun. It makes me feel tough.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

Not shot animals for a while but wouldn't worry me to do so for the pot, or vermin control, although having said stopping another creatures heart is never 'fun', the stalking and marksmanship is though

Non shooters must try to understand that an animal usually leads a better life than a supermarket one, before its time comes. If your taste buds are really happy with factory raised food from the supermarket, you'll never understand.

Anyway I'll keep shooting metal, paper and frangible targets with my shotguns rifles and legal versions of pistols until some soft in the head politicians and the anti everything lobby stop me

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

"I've only been shooting a could've of times. I seem to have a talent for the shotgun. It makes me feel tough.

Please stay away from guns if you really feel like that!

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By *hathotcoupleCouple
over a year ago

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Love shooting but shooting animals is not cool

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

So you just enjoy the killing aspect?"

Sort of..... But it's a lot more than that.

There are many more facets to hunting, some will just never get, I can't put it in all in to words either but will try....

I enjoy hunting, conservation, the animals I shoot are classified as vermin!

In our garden, it's full of Robins, blackbirds, we have a family of wagtails, sparrows, spotted woodpecker has a nest in the apple tree (20 yards from the back of house which I've filmed making the hole, from bathroom window.

We have swallows, finches, a wren that comes everyday, for a crumbled digestive.

The wildlife birds are thriving and I love to see them and encourage them to the safety of our garden.

Magpie will get shot though, I shoot about 10 a year, and every year, a new lot move in but not for long. They're not welcome!

Magpies attack nests, they're after the eggs, they attack new born birds too and bully them.

Why we have so many songbirds instead.

Yes it's nature but I'm part of nature too and I shoot them. We still have lots of magpies btw, I can get my binoculars now and see about 15.

They just seem to know, this space is too dangerous.... that's fine.

As for shooting pigeons and other stuff on farmland. The farmers want their crops / chickens / lands protected. I get permission to walk around hund_eds of acres of beautiful countryside, in return I shoot vermin and control numbers. If I didn't, there's always plenty that will. It's the countryside, it's what we all do, always have and future generations will naturally do.

On a summers day, with nothing to do, I can go to several places and set up. Relax for many hours enjoying the beautiful views, sometimes I don't get to shoot anything, good days I still don't shoot a vast amount but I get to see so much more.....watching the hares box and come within a few feet of me, the buzzard feeding, later on I'll see it bring its babies to a shot bird and teach them what to do!

I take some bread and feed the ducks, swans and a family of field mice that have now got use to me taking food and have some cracking photos of them holding crumbs of bread with their hands and eating it. Love taking photos of sunsets too, while waiting for a fox, especially they've been killing young lambs.

Shooting is a skill too, yes you may walk of a factory estate, or shopping centre and walk amongst magpies, thinking it's easy. They're hopping on the verge, only a few feet away!

You try getting near one in the country, with a rifle in hand. Can take hours, patience and skill to outwit the next target, get it to land close enough, for a confident, clean and humane safe shot, that'll kill instantly and not suffer.

Pigeons are flying rats, carry all sorts of disease and the hund_eds round here eat lots of farmers crops

Foxes kill newborn lambs, ducks and chickens, also spread disease, most have mange.

Squirrels, many parts of the country, there is a campaign on to get rid of grey squirrels and hope the _ed ones may return. I can't see it happening, the grey ones are here to stay but it'd be nice to get _ed ones back again.

Looking at the numbers, I don't get to shoot lots each year, ones I do, well for them it's wrong place, wrong time. But get see so much more and enjoy.

Yeah, I can I say love it.

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over a year ago

Oh dear this reminds me of bambi fs

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I stopped when I realised I had more chest freezers than a person should have.

I say stopped, I mean stopped being competitive about it.

I haven't been shooting for years not much skill requi_ed blasting fat peasants with a shotgun, I was always the skilled killer type

Shooting Peasants is frowned on these days. You need to stick to approved game

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over a year ago

I've a couple of shotguns for clay target shooting and the occasional game shoot in the autumn months.

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over a year ago

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites "

I would say presuming that would be an entirety misguided assumption ....

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over a year ago

I love to position myself on a grassy knoll and wait for important people to cross my sights

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites

I would say presuming that would be an entirety misguided assumption ....

I see their point though. Don't be outraged if you're just going to let someone else kill for you.

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over a year ago

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites

I would say presuming that would be an entirety misguided assumption ....

I see their point though. Don't be outraged if you're just going to let someone else kill for you. "

I see no value in naïve irrational blanket statements ,,,,,, You cant assume that everyone is motivated by the same criteria

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

I stopped when I realised I had more chest freezers than a person should have.

I say stopped, I mean stopped being competitive about it.

I haven't been shooting for years not much skill requi_ed blasting fat peasants with a shotgun, I was always the skilled killer type

Shooting Peasants is frowned on these days. You need to stick to approved game

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites

I would say presuming that would be an entirety misguided assumption ....

I see their point though. Don't be outraged if you're just going to let someone else kill for you.

I see no value in naïve irrational blanket statements ,,,,,, You cant assume that everyone is motivated by the same criteria "

I see some value in them.

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over a year ago

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites

I would say presuming that would be an entirety misguided assumption ....

I see their point though. Don't be outraged if you're just going to let someone else kill for you.

I see no value in naïve irrational blanket statements ,,,,,, You cant assume that everyone is motivated by the same criteria

I see some value in them. "

I cant help you there Clem...

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites

I would say presuming that would be an entirety misguided assumption ....

I see their point though. Don't be outraged if you're just going to let someone else kill for you.

I see no value in naïve irrational blanket statements ,,,,,, You cant assume that everyone is motivated by the same criteria

I see some value in them.

I cant help you there Clem...

Can't or won't....?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I imagine half the people on here saying killing animals is wrong think their Sunday roast died of natural causes

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over a year ago

"I used to rifle shoot competitively, but not for a while now. Won a few trophies.

Shooting defenceless animals is anything but sport. Its a past time for those who have a personality disorder.

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over a year ago

"I used to rifle shoot competitively, but not for a while now. Won a few trophies.

Did you compete at bisley comp as I think you beat me a few times there

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over a year ago

"I imagine half the people on here saying killing animals is wrong think their Sunday roast died of natural causes"

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Love shooting, I have multiple shotguns, rifles and a 175lb laser sight crossbow

Enjoy clays mostly but occasionally fame shoot

I only shoot game I plan to eat or for pest control, not into trophy hunting that's for American assholes

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Love shooting, I have multiple shotguns, rifles and a 175lb laser sight crossbow

Enjoy clays mostly but occasionally game shoot

I only shoot game I plan to eat or for pest control, not into trophy hunting that's for American assholes "

*correction on game from fame autocorrect I'm not out hunting celebrities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So you just enjoy the killing aspect?

Sort of..... But it's a lot more than that.

There are many more facets to hunting, some will just never get, I can't put it in all in to words either but will try....

I enjoy hunting, conservation, the animals I shoot are classified as vermin!

We have swallows, finches, a wren that comes everyday, for a crumbled digestive.

The wildlife birds are thriving and I love to see them and encourage them to the safety of our garden.

Magpie will get shot though, I shoot about 10 a year, and every year, a new lot move in but not for long. They're not welcome!

Magpies attack nests, they're after the eggs, they attack new born birds too and bully them.

Why we have so many songbirds instead.

Yes it's nature but I'm part of nature too and I shoot them. We still have lots of magpies btw, I can get my binoculars now and see about 15.

They just seem to know, this space is too dangerous.... that's fine.

Shooting is a skill too, yes you may walk of a factory estate, or shopping centre and walk amongst magpies, thinking it's easy. They're hopping on the verge, only a few feet away!

Pigeons are flying rats, carry all sorts of disease and the hund_eds round here eat lots of farmers crops

Foxes kill newborn lambs, ducks and chickens, also spread disease, most have mange.

Looking at the numbers, I don't get to shoot lots each year, ones I do, well for them it's wrong place, wrong time. But get see so much more and enjoy.

Yeah, I can I say love it.

Humankind pollutes the earth water and skies. We kill in the name of a random deity or political cause we are the biggest pest on the planet. All the situations highlighted in your prose are natures way of dealing eco balancing. I doubt if mother natures needs a helping hand from homosapiens using guns. Quite the contrary I believe.

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

"I imagine half the people on here saying killing animals is wrong think their Sunday roast died of natural causes"

Off topic a bit, I have a few vegetarian friends, they know I shoot and stuff but I don't go on about it, they don't tell me what to do either.

I do notice that lots of vegetarians and vegans, ones that don't agree with any form of people killing animals, they drive around and say 'look at those beautiful cows, aren't they gorgeous, how could anyone kill and eat those'.

Well yes, driving around countryside and seeing cows, with calves, baby sheep, piglets etc. are lovely to see but farners only breed and keep animals to make money, it's a business his livelihood and to provide food.

If nobody brought meat, they wouldn't be there.

No farmer would keep cows in a field, for others to look, as his expensive hobby!

If meat was banned tomorrow, they'd all be shot, fields sold for housing and they'd not exist, regardless!

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

I'm part of nature too, as we and all animals are.

Natures way of dealing with things.... yep I'm playing my part, I've already highlighted and I enjoy it too.

Mother Nature... you'll be telling me god is real too!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

This will explain it for you:

https://youtu.be/_pDTiFkXgEE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm part of nature too, as we and all animals are.

Natures way of dealing with things.... yep I'm playing my part, I've already highlighted and I enjoy it too.

Mother Nature... you'll be telling me god is real too! "

You are killing for pleasure you admit it. Your actions are based on illusionary situations. For instance whilst lying in wait for a fox and admiring the sunsent, you kill the fox that may just have pups. Foxes on the whole hunt small rodents and scavenge on carrion. Your sunset excursions do nothing to keep the balance of nature in check. As for God she is real is she not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites

I would say presuming that would be an entirety misguided assumption ....

I see their point though. Don't be outraged if you're just going to let someone else kill for you.

I see no value in naïve irrational blanket statements ,,,,,, You cant assume that everyone is motivated by the same criteria

I see some value in them.

I cant help you there Clem...

Can't or won't....?!"

I'm just not medically qualified in that field...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Presumably those who are saying how disgusting shooting animals is are vegan rather than meat eating, leather wearing hypocrites "

of course they are

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over a year ago

I enjoy target and clay pigeon shooting. I used to go beating with a local shoot. All that was shot was eaten, which I dont see a problem with.

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over a year ago

I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

I enjoy hunting, this is true, it's never been a secret!

My actions are based on what I enjoy, the scenery and sunsets and my excursions, well I get permission because the farmers wants me shooting, which I also want to do! If I didn't shoot, they'd hand no problem finding someone else. I'd not have permission so would be trespassing!

Farners give me land, i help farmer and hunt.

I don't shoot around March / April as that's when they are born and dependant, unless there is a regular occurancd of new born lambs getting savaged..... then I will step in and deal with it!

May onwards the cubs will venture out.... no problem shooting those either!

I feel you don't like it one bit, I've been honest and open, replied nicely and detailed.

Like politics, you have your passions, I gave mine, but we're never going to share a hug

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

it's illegal to hunt humans though. more's the pity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There seems to be a lot of negative comments regarding hunting general on this forum, a high proportion of these people probably eat meat..

Im a small game hunter primarily and I assure you all that the game I hunt mainly rabbits and squirrels are despatched in the most ethical way possible (headshot), these animals do not suffer its a very quick death.

Now compare this to animals that are raised in poor conditions, fed a diet comprising mainly of foods for them to gain weight with little or no nutritional value and then slaughte_ed on a mass scale.

Even worse when you take into account that a vast majority of meat in the country is halal, meaning that the animal is strung up with no stunning and is bled to death over several minutes as prayers are said over the dying animal.

Bear all of this in mind and then tell me which method is the most inhumane??

I know which method I prefer

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over a year ago

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

it's illegal to hunt humans though. more's the pity. "

That's what we get for allowing humans to make the laws

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

it's illegal to hunt humans though. more's the pity. "

I'm still waiting for the purge to pay my ex a visit

lol joking

It would be more satisfying to do it manually

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

Are you saying that developing country's should have their populations capped to prevent an artificially high number? Along with immigration to northern Europe stopped to ease the pressure on an over stretched farming industry, not to mention housing in a finite area?!

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over a year ago

"The shooting of certain animal species is requi_ed to maintain control of the population, and maintain the animals natural habitat. Shooting for this reason I think is perfectly acceptable so long as it is a clean shot that kills humainly and doesnt cause the animal to suffer."

That's bollocks and you know it. Shooting isn't requi_ed. It's reserved for sick cunts. Why you can't swap a gun for a camera is beyond me. Name some species that REQUIRE shooting by a hunter and I'm sure there's an alternative to blowing it's fucking brains out. Can't you replace bullets with tranquilizer.. so the times you don't get a clean shot.. Which is more often than you'd all care to admit.. then the animal can just drift off to sleep?

I put my gun down after the army and won't pick another up. Not even an air rifle. Killer toys for people who don't value life.

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over a year ago

"There seems to be a lot of negative comments regarding hunting general on this forum, a high proportion of these people probably eat meat..

Now compare this to animals that are raised in poor conditions, fed a diet comprising mainly of foods for them to gain weight with little or no nutritional value and then slaughte_ed on a mass scale.

Bear all of this in mind and then tell me which method is the most inhumane??

I know which method I prefer"

it's fine to keep tens of thousands of chikens in a squalid barn (has anyone here been to a chicken farm...i have, the workers walk through picking up the dead birds from the floor that have died of heart attack because the steroids they're fed force them to grow so fast the heart can't keep up and id disproportionally small for the birds size so they tend to drop dead a lot. ever seen a normally raised chicken once plucked? nothing whatsoever like the chemically enhanced bodybuilder looking freak chickens you get from the shops) but you know what, auschwitz for chickens is ok...it's fine to eat those birds, because people conveniently don't have to see it...the suffering of what they eat is very much out of sight out of mind for them, they haven't got the balls to be connected to what they eat. they prefer middle men to do the raising and killing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

fed steroids i meant to say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I put my gun down after the army and won't pick another up. Not even an air rifle. Killer toys for people who don't value life."

assuming your vegan then.

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Either a lot of vegetarian/vegans on this thread or a bunch of folks that don't like to think of where their food really comes from

Look, shooting / hunting is an ancient skill and nowadays it's a past time and for country people a necessary tool to control their land.

If done responsibly, shooting in season, good reasons and not wasteful then it's no different to sourcing food from a large producer / farmer

How many people might starve in the world if they had to get their own dinner.

I wonder how long it will take before urban foxes since the ban are completely over running in cities and people cry out for something to be done. Foxes are territorial, they spread out and always increase their area. All it will take is a bunch of kids being bitten or a spate of family pets going missing.

Peace people

accept differing views

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe someone could design a drone that could be the target so people can shoot without having to kill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bought a new rifle for deer stalking , anybody on here enjoying shooting ?"
oh yea baby

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

Ah but you said "becoming"... so clearly you don't think humans are the biggest pest yet... So you must be looking at population increase. Where are humans increasing their population size quickest?

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over a year ago

I put my gun down after the army and won't pick another up. Not even an air rifle. Killer toys for people who don't value life."

Tell that to the _ed squirrel, almost completely extinct due to squirrel pox and having to compete with the larger grey squirrel for food.

Now numbers are in the rise throughout many areas of the country due to conservation efforts, a large part of this is attributed to air gunners keeping the number of greys down.

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over a year ago

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

Ah but you said "becoming"... so clearly you don't think humans are the biggest pest yet... So you must be looking at population increase. Where are humans increasing their population size quickest? "
india

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"fed steroids i meant to say"

They aren't fed steroids. Its just the breed.

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over a year ago

Comparing hunting to mass food production is a pointless exercise. Two wrongs don't make a right argument.. you hunters don't exist on your kills alone do you? So it hardly gives you any moral high ground.

The rest of us who eat meat and choose not to hunt are stuck having to buy that meat or go Vegan. I campaign for animal rights.. I vote accordingly and try my best to shop according to my views.. but until the rest of the UK follows suit.. I'm stuck.

Humanity upsets me on many levels.. unfortunately the internet now makes it clearer how many sickosexist on this planet.. I thought we'd improve as time wore on.. seems we don't.

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

"maybe someone could design a drone that could be the target so people can shoot without having to kill."

This already exists and is crazy fun

It's called Gnat shooting and the v shaped drone has exploding charges on the bottom. You stand in down the line formation and a guy does multiple fly pasts. It's awesome

Look up your local game show

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

Exactly. Now suddenly it's a pest that needs to be controlled...

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I put my gun down after the army and won't pick another up. Not even an air rifle. Killer toys for people who don't value life.

Tell that to the _ed squirrel, almost completely extinct due to squirrel pox and having to compete with the larger grey squirrel for food.

Now numbers are in the rise throughout many areas of the country due to conservation efforts, a large part of this is attributed to air gunners keeping the number of greys down. "

Really? Grey squirrels were introduced accidentally years ago. They're dominant.. nature has taken this out of our hands.. we've assisted natural in the natural selection process.. You're not going to stop that process now it's started.. better to led the _eds die out naturally than killing every grey you see.

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

Actually the most successful animal at adapting and spreading all over the globe, increasing its size, on a gigantic scare are..... ANTS! According to Sir David Attenborough

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

"Comparing hunting to mass food production is a pointless exercise. Two wrongs don't make a right argument.. you hunters don't exist on your kills alone do you? So it hardly gives you any moral high ground.

Humanity upsets me on many levels.. unfortunately the internet now makes it clearer how many sickosexist on this planet.. I thought we'd improve as time wore on.. seems we don't."

Respect your views but that's the whole point, we don't have any right to tell someone else they are wrong because it differs from our own.

That's in the same box as churchy joes ramming religion down people's throats.

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over a year ago

Do deers need shooting for pest control? No. If they're a pest.. they can be removed via other methods. That's a perfect example of immature gun nuts who get a hard on for taking a life.

Real men save lives.

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over a year ago

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

Clem you really oughtn't try clearly thinking for me or indeed attempt too misconstrue something you say as being something I would say.... its an ineffectual tactic when trying to challenge your own opinions and the opinions of others ,,,,

I can do this all day ....

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over a year ago

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

Exactly. Now suddenly it's a pest that needs to be controlled..."
vermin as basil would say shoot them

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

"Do deers need shooting for pest control? No. If they're a pest.. they can be removed via other methods. That's a perfect example of immature gun nuts who get a hard on for taking a life.

Real men save lives."

Em yes they do, population and health control removing the old sick stags from the gene pool to maintain the blood lines

Respect to your service and I get why you now feel this way but like I said opinions are like aresholes, we've all got one

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over a year ago

Humanity upsets me on many levels.. unfortunately the internet now makes it clearer how many sickosexist on this planet.. I thought we'd improve as time wore on.. seems we don't.

Respect your views but that's the whole point, we don't have any right to tell someone else they are wrong because it differs from our own.

That's in the same box as churchy joes ramming religion down people's throats.

Again that's bollocks.. I have a right to tell you exactly what I think if you're taking a life without valid justification.. for sport. I'd expect someone to point out my faults if they upset enough of the population.

Most of our population don't give a toss about god.. so it's a different kettle of fish entirely. If this were Saudi Arabia.. you may have a point.

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over a year ago

"Do deers need shooting for pest control? No. If they're a pest.. they can be removed via other methods. That's a perfect example of immature gun nuts who get a hard on for taking a life.

Real men save lives.

Em yes they do, population and health control removing the old sick stags from the gene pool to maintain the blood lines

Respect to your service and I get why you now feel this way but like I said opinions are like aresholes, we've all got one

It doesn't need shooting by a boy with his pretend Willy though does it? A game keeper with a tranq gun could do it. Not Joe public. You're right about arseholes though.

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Humanity upsets me on many levels.. unfortunately the internet now makes it clearer how many sickosexist on this planet.. I thought we'd improve as time wore on.. seems we don't.

Respect your views but that's the whole point, we don't have any right to tell someone else they are wrong because it differs from our own.

That's in the same box as churchy joes ramming religion down people's throats.

Most of our population don't give a toss about god.. so it's a different kettle of fish entirely. If this were Saudi Arabia.. you may have a point."

Freedom of speech brother and that's what makes this great nation great.

People outside of fab might choose to call us disgusting, sleazy, disease ridden immoral people but hey that's just their opinion

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

Tell that to the _ed squirrel, almost completely extinct due to squirrel pox and having to compete with the larger grey squirrel for food.

Now numbers are in the rise throughout many areas of the country due to conservation efforts, a large part of this is attributed to air gunners keeping the number of greys down.

Exactly! Grey squirrels aren't a uk animal, the _ed is our home land squirrel, but almost wiped out by the greys. I think they are working on something to hit them hard, releasing ones with sterile genes to wipe them out but that. Kind end up like a mixy disaster.

Shooting is quick, instant and wouldn't even have a second to know about it.

As for misses, no body is perfect but by keeping ranges sensible, being responsible, and checking zero.... missed or wounding are very rare!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

Ah but you said "becoming"... so clearly you don't think humans are the biggest pest yet... So you must be looking at population increase. Where are humans increasing their population size quickest?

I can do this all day ....

Sorry i was having a poo.

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

To be honest I would much rather human beings put more effort into not killing each other.

We feel more strongly about animals and that makes me sad.

When we see a homeless person with a dog, people say "aw what a poor dog"

Here we are arguing about hunting. Sad state of affairs really

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

Sorry i was having a poo. "

I hope you shot it!

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Sorry i was having a poo.

I hope you shot it!

Those brown fish are particularly difficult targets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't object to hunting for food , I don't object to pest control ....It's just a shame humanity is becoming the most prodigious pest on the planet

No Clem I'm not saying that, you just said that .... do you think that's the solution...

You keep hitting me with these ambiguous questions ..

Ah but you said "becoming"... so clearly you don't think humans are the biggest pest yet... So you must be looking at population increase. Where are humans increasing their population size quickest?

I can do this all day ....

Sorry i was having a poo. "

Glad to hear it mate ..... your thinking should be much clearer now....

Oh I'm only joking ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Humanity upsets me on many levels.. unfortunately the internet now makes it clearer how many sickosexist on this planet.. I thought we'd improve as time wore on.. seems we don't.

Respect your views but that's the whole point, we don't have any right to tell someone else they are wrong because it differs from our own.

That's in the same box as churchy joes ramming religion down people's throats.

Most of our population don't give a toss about god.. so it's a different kettle of fish entirely. If this were Saudi Arabia.. you may have a point.

Freedom of speech brother and that's what makes this great nation great.

People outside of fab might choose to call us disgusting, sleazy, disease ridden immoral people but hey that's just their opinion

Exactly.. I'm practicing my freedom of speech right now.. people are allowed to think what they like and say it. We're all different.. but I'm the kind of person who vocalises my dislike of people I disagree with who practise barbarity and call it fun. Not just sit back and say.. oh well we all have opinions

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over a year ago

Tell that to the _ed squirrel, almost completely extinct due to squirrel pox and having to compete with the larger grey squirrel for food.

Now numbers are in the rise throughout many areas of the country due to conservation efforts, a large part of this is attributed to air gunners keeping the number of greys down.

Shooting is quick, instant and wouldn't even have a second to know about it.

As for misses, no body is perfect but by keeping ranges sensible, being responsible, and checking zero.... missed or wounding are very rare!

Genetic sterilisation.. now that's an answer.. provided it's safe to other natural grey populations.. but these days the grey is so established you'd be effecting many species who prey and are preyed upon by greys.. would _eds be able to make a quick enough comeback to replace the void.. probably not. So probably best for the environment to let the _ed die out naturally.. and learn the sad lesson.

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By *avrick15Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Humanity upsets me on many levels.. unfortunately the internet now makes it clearer how many sickosexist on this planet.. I thought we'd improve as time wore on.. seems we don't.

Respect your views but that's the whole point, we don't have any right to tell someone else they are wrong because it differs from our own.

That's in the same box as churchy joes ramming religion down people's throats.

Most of our population don't give a toss about god.. so it's a different kettle of fish entirely. If this were Saudi Arabia.. you may have a point.

Freedom of speech brother and that's what makes this great nation great.

People outside of fab might choose to call us disgusting, sleazy, disease ridden immoral people but hey that's just their opinion

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm, vocalise away bud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Humanity upsets me on many levels.. unfortunately the internet now makes it clearer how many sickosexist on this planet.. I thought we'd improve as time wore on.. seems we don't.

Respect your views but that's the whole point, we don't have any right to tell someone else they are wrong because it differs from our own.

That's in the same box as churchy joes ramming religion down people's throats.

Most of our population don't give a toss about god.. so it's a different kettle of fish entirely. If this were Saudi Arabia.. you may have a point.

Freedom of speech brother and that's what makes this great nation great.

People outside of fab might choose to call us disgusting, sleazy, disease ridden immoral people but hey that's just their opinion

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm, vocalise away bud

Despite my views on hunters.. I can say that in South Africa.. big game hunting is preserving rare species and actually reintroducing and boosting wild populations of almost extinct animals.. the rarer the breed the more twats will pay to kill them. So animals don't die out.

Sad state of affairs that these cunts are the last resort in protecting endange_ed species.

Shows how we've utterly failed morally as a species ourselves.

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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Alcester

It doesn't need shooting by a boy with his pretend Willy though does it? A game keeper with a tranq gun could do it. Not Joe public. You're right about arseholes though."

Yeah... his wiujd that work?

Gand keeper darts a stag deer with tranq, then shoots it, but can't eat it, not fit for humans, meat contaminated with tranq. dart

Shooting does the job, quickly, efficiently and humanly, gives us venison too!

As for his public, joe public doesn't just buy or obtain an FAC overnight. All applications are vetted and pretty tough, takes a while and for hunting purposes, virtually all new applications will have a 'mentoring' condition imposed. Meaning they can't shoot 'xx rifle' for xx reason, without mentoring for 12 months.

After which the mentor, game keeper, gives a reference and advises the Firearns licensing officer of his thoughts.

Anyone just wanting to shoot a deer, and tag along with a deer stalker, 'to have a go'. I don't know any responsible shooting person that'd say sure. We enjoy what we do, but also respect what we do. FAC licensed people the shoot regularly are not 'joe public'