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"Errrrm no I was born in the era where the pound note was changed to a pound coin and there was still 1/2 pences ![]() ![]() Quite! You're a mere "youngster!" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Errrrm no I was born in the era where the pound note was changed to a pound coin and there was still 1/2 pences ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No I am getting wrinkles haha | |||
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"Think of them as laughter lines ![]() ![]() ![]() No offence intended but there's no such thing as a perfect diamond. They all have little flaws, inclusions and imperfections - that's what makes them unique and special. | |||
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"oh and penny chews which were an old penny, and dont forget british rail toilets an old penny....now its 20p ![]() Is there still such a thing as British Rail toilets.......... or British Rail for that matter ? ![]() | |||
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"We were all ripped off when 240 pennies to the pound suddenly became only 100 when decimalisation took place.....and ripped off again when the halfpenny piece was abolished and ALL prices, ending in half pence, were rounded UP. Even now we are still being ripped off. Take BT for example....when you entered any number of phoneline competitions before the VAT increase it would cost you £1...now, after the VAT increase, it costs £1.03. That represents a 3% increase which, again, suggests BT are profiteering by half a penny for every entry. Quite a handsome 'rip off' over loads of entries!!" When you take £1.00 back to a net VAT at 17.5% figure, then add VAT at 20% do you get exactly £1.03 or a bit less? I've not heard of a method of billing for fractions of a penny. Do you know how to do it? If you're looking for someone to blame, you'd do well to address your comments to Little Lord Fauntleroy 11 Downing St London SW1A 2AB If you're worried about being ripped off - don't enter the phoneline competitions. | |||
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"This is aimed more at those of us more mature age groups who can remember good old £'s, shillings and (old) pence. Do you ever lapse into thinking as you buy an everyday article, for example, like I did earlier today, a Mars Bar at 60p and think...... "Bloody Hell! Twelve shillings for a choc bar!! Someone's having a laugh!" ![]() My mum used to send me to the corner shop to buy Mother's Pride bread with a shilling. When I'm in Sainsbury's buying Kingsmill at £1.25 for one or 3 for £3 I do often think about a loaf of bread costing 5p! ![]() | |||
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"We were all ripped off when 240 pennies to the pound suddenly became only 100 when decimalisation took place.....and ripped off again when the halfpenny piece was abolished and ALL prices, ending in half pence, were rounded UP. Even now we are still being ripped off. Take BT for example....when you entered any number of phoneline competitions before the VAT increase it would cost you £1...now, after the VAT increase, it costs £1.03. That represents a 3% increase which, again, suggests BT are profiteering by half a penny for every entry. Quite a handsome 'rip off' over loads of entries!! When you take £1.00 back to a net VAT at 17.5% figure, then add VAT at 20% do you get exactly £1.03 or a bit less? I've not heard of a method of billing for fractions of a penny. Do you know how to do it? If you're looking for someone to blame, you'd do well to address your comments to Little Lord Fauntleroy 11 Downing St London SW1A 2AB If you're worried about being ripped off - don't enter the phoneline competitions. " The VAT increase of 2.5% means that a 2.5% increase on £1.00 equates to 102.5p Thereby BT 'rip off' the customer by 0.5p on every entry received. I think you'll find that, if you take the time to look AT BT's pricing structure, BT do costings at 'fractions of a penny' and then round up to the nearest penny on the whole of those fractions when the bill is made up....FACT!! And as for speaking to Lord Fauntleroy... he can't even run a bath, let alone the finance's of this country. And i do not enter the phoneline competitions period!! | |||
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"We were all ripped off when 240 pennies to the pound suddenly became only 100 when decimalisation took place.....and ripped off again when the halfpenny piece was abolished and ALL prices, ending in half pence, were rounded UP. Even now we are still being ripped off. Take BT for example....when you entered any number of phoneline competitions before the VAT increase it would cost you £1...now, after the VAT increase, it costs £1.03. That represents a 3% increase which, again, suggests BT are profiteering by half a penny for every entry. Quite a handsome 'rip off' over loads of entries!! When you take £1.00 back to a net VAT at 17.5% figure, then add VAT at 20% do you get exactly £1.03 or a bit less? I've not heard of a method of billing for fractions of a penny. Do you know how to do it? If you're looking for someone to blame, you'd do well to address your comments to Little Lord Fauntleroy 11 Downing St London SW1A 2AB If you're worried about being ripped off - don't enter the phoneline competitions. The VAT increase of 2.5% means that a 2.5% increase on £1.00 equates to 102.5p Thereby BT 'rip off' the customer by 0.5p on every entry received. I think you'll find that, if you take the time to look AT BT's pricing structure, BT do costings at 'fractions of a penny' and then round up to the nearest penny on the whole of those fractions when the bill is made up....FACT!! And as for speaking to Lord Fauntleroy... he can't even run a bath, let alone the finance's of this country. And i do not enter the phoneline competitions period!!" The maths doesn't quite work that way. £1.00 (including VAT) is 117.5% of the net price. Work it back to the base price. Then add 20% to the base price. That's the figure you SHOULD be paying. It's not as simple as adding 2.5% to a VAT inclusive figure 'cos that'd mean you're paying VAT on the VAT. As for rounding up at the end of the total bill - I'm not convinced. I'm even less convinced when people need to capitalise the work fact, especially when followed by two, yes two, exclamation marks. | |||
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"I can just remember putting old pennies in the slot of a push button A or push button B phone box. Now it's 60p ![]() ....and I can remember jamming a matchbox up the return to collect all the pennies returned when button B was pressed. On a good day we'd make 3 shillings. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We were all ripped off when 240 pennies to the pound suddenly became only 100 when decimalisation took place.....and ripped off again when the halfpenny piece was abolished and ALL prices, ending in half pence, were rounded UP. Even now we are still being ripped off. Take BT for example....when you entered any number of phoneline competitions before the VAT increase it would cost you £1...now, after the VAT increase, it costs £1.03. That represents a 3% increase which, again, suggests BT are profiteering by half a penny for every entry. Quite a handsome 'rip off' over loads of entries!! When you take £1.00 back to a net VAT at 17.5% figure, then add VAT at 20% do you get exactly £1.03 or a bit less? I've not heard of a method of billing for fractions of a penny. Do you know how to do it? If you're looking for someone to blame, you'd do well to address your comments to Little Lord Fauntleroy 11 Downing St London SW1A 2AB If you're worried about being ripped off - don't enter the phoneline competitions. The VAT increase of 2.5% means that a 2.5% increase on £1.00 equates to 102.5p Thereby BT 'rip off' the customer by 0.5p on every entry received. I think you'll find that, if you take the time to look AT BT's pricing structure, BT do costings at 'fractions of a penny' and then round up to the nearest penny on the whole of those fractions when the bill is made up....FACT!! And as for speaking to Lord Fauntleroy... he can't even run a bath, let alone the finance's of this country. And i do not enter the phoneline competitions period!! The maths doesn't quite work that way. £1.00 (including VAT) is 117.5% of the net price. Work it back to the base price. Then add 20% to the base price. That's the figure you SHOULD be paying. It's not as simple as adding 2.5% to a VAT inclusive figure 'cos that'd mean you're paying VAT on the VAT. As for rounding up at the end of the total bill - I'm not convinced. I'm even less convinced when people need to capitalise the work fact, especially when followed by two, yes two, exclamation marks. " The base price of £1 at a VAT rate of 17.5% = £0.8510638...(add VAT on that price at 17.5% to equate to £0.9999999) ...add on your VAT rate of 20% (as you are suggesting) means that the price should actually be £1.0212765. That alone speaks for itself. And an exclaimation mark is a form of emphasis, though twice in my case. | |||
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" The maths doesn't quite work that way. £1.00 (including VAT) is 117.5% of the net price. Work it back to the base price. Then add 20% to the base price. That's the figure you SHOULD be paying. It's not as simple as adding 2.5% to a VAT inclusive figure 'cos that'd mean you're paying VAT on the VAT. As for rounding up at the end of the total bill - I'm not convinced. I'm even less convinced when people need to capitalise the work fact, especially when followed by two, yes two, exclamation marks. The base price of £1 at a VAT rate of 17.5% = £0.8510638...(add VAT on that price at 17.5% to equate to £0.9999999) ...add on your VAT rate of 20% (as you are suggesting) means that the price should actually be £1.0212765. That alone speaks for itself. And an exclaimation mark is a form of emphasis, though twice in my case." I'm not suggesting that you don't have a valid point to make about BT (or anyone else) rounding up these sums though BT would probably argue that rounding it down would cost BT as a whole millions (which would have to be recouped elsewhere) whilst rounding it up only costs an individual a small amount - unless you're an avid phone-in competition fan. There's a tale, maybe false, which circulates about a wages clerk in a huge American company. The firm's unions negotiated hourly rates to fractions of a cent which, when multiplied by the number of hours worked, usually came to $X, Y cents and some figures after the number of whole cents. He arranged to have all these fractions of a cent transferred into his bank account. At the month end the employees had what they expected in their pay packet and the company had what they expected taken out of their bank account. Everyone was happy but the wages clerk was cleaning up. He'd probably still be getting away with it had he not resigned to go to work for a competitor so he could try to set up the same scam there. His successor suused him. ------------------------- I probably should point out that I'm not suggesting VAT ought to be 20% - that was Osborne's 'bright idea'. I'd have it back at 15% in the hope of stimulating demand in the economy. | |||
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"This is aimed more at those of us more mature age groups who can remember good old £'s, shillings and (old) pence. Do you ever lapse into thinking as you buy an everyday article, for example, like I did earlier today, a Mars Bar at 60p and think...... "Bloody Hell! Twelve shillings for a choc bar!! Someone's having a laugh!" ![]() Not that old myself but i do look at the litre prices in fuel stations and think 'you could have paid that for a gallon in the day' | |||
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