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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

ban the burka?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ban the burka?

No its sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don't think so, why punish the many for the actions of the few. XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should Britain ban skinny jeans on men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban it and take anyway people rights to a free life?! No way Jose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

Next question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I don't think so, why punish the many for the actions of the few. XXX"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

74% of 'this morning' viewers would agree no to ban it. Interesting.

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By *appytrailmanMan
over a year ago

Manchester

No I don't think they should as mentioned earlier why punish people when only a handful have these horrible ideas

"Should Britain ban skinny jeans on men?"

Yes they should ban skinny jeans on men and also jeans that have knee rips in for men!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah. But i think there needs to be more of a widespread effort to reach domestic violence victims in conservative Muslim households.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No....

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs."

They're probably hiding a bazooka in there, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Apparently it's no even a religious requirement in Islam. It's a choice.

Personally I don't agree with it, I would rather Muslim women not hide their identity behind a burka especially when driving fs.

If a man can't hide his identity why should chicks be allowed to do so?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, but I am not sure they would let western women wear what they would there, such as showing off to much legs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs."

Absolutely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friend got told by the police to remove her scarf as it was over her face.

I have no idea how this is any different other than religious reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ban the burka?

No its sexy

Like a sexual scratch card!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My friend got told by the police to remove her scarf as it was over her face.

I have no idea how this is any different other than religious reasons.

I would tell that cop to fuck off to the station and read about law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel that all men and women should be able to wear what ever they like.

What tears me in half is, at a petrol station, motorcyclists have to remove there helmet, should a woman in a burka have to do the same?

Just because shes a woman, it doesn't mean shes not going to rob the place

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No, but I am not sure they would let western women wear what they would there, such as showing off to much legs."

They don't mind what western women don't wear, 'they' love a good a perve fs

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

They're probably hiding a bazooka in there, right? "

Why do you think motorbike drivers are required to remove their helment when they enter a petrol station?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I feel that all men and women should be able to wear what ever they like.

What tears me in half is, at a petrol station, motorcyclists have to remove there helmet, should a woman in a burka have to do the same?

Just because shes a woman, it doesn't mean shes not going to rob the place"

And in a Bank.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, but I am not sure they would let western women wear what they would there, such as showing off to much legs.

They don't mind what western women don't wear, 'they' love a good a perve fs

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That is right, they would too lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

They're probably hiding a bazooka in there, right?

Why do you think motorbike drivers are required to remove their helment when they enter a petrol station? "

They're not required to do so, I know because I work at petrol station and we do not enforce it or even have it in our store policy.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Apparently it's no even a religious requirement in Islam. It's a choice.

Correct and sometimes it's not even the womans choice. I like Hijabs though, they look nice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel that all men and women should be able to wear what ever they like.

What tears me in half is, at a petrol station, motorcyclists have to remove there helmet, should a woman in a burka have to do the same?

Just because shes a woman, it doesn't mean shes not going to rob the place

And in a Bank. "

Exactly

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

They're probably hiding a bazooka in there, right?

Why do you think motorbike drivers are required to remove their helment when they enter a petrol station?

They're not required to do so, I know because I work at petrol station and we do not enforce it or even have it in our store policy."

The vast majority of petrol stations do and they are legally allowed to refuse to serve people who refuse to remove them. Driving away without paying is a crime too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My friend got told by the police to remove her scarf as it was over her face.

I have no idea how this is any different other than religious reasons.

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What a load of tosh. I refute that to be true in the UK.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs? "

Why? It's not covering their face

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel that all men and women should be able to wear what ever they like.

What tears me in half is, at a petrol station, motorcyclists have to remove there helmet, should a woman in a burka have to do the same?

Just because shes a woman, it doesn't mean shes not going to rob the place

And in a Bank. "

After working in a high street retailer (that I won't name) and seeing the haul of clothes around (£600) that someone in a burka had hidden, its not just the stereotypical places that can have issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

They're probably hiding a bazooka in there, right?

Why do you think motorbike drivers are required to remove their helment when they enter a petrol station?

They're not required to do so, I know because I work at petrol station and we do not enforce it or even have it in our store policy.

The vast majority of petrol stations do and they are legally allowed to refuse to serve people who refuse to remove them. Driving away without paying is a crime too."

You do realise sunglasses hide someone's identity too?

Should we bun them from being worn in public?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

They're probably hiding a bazooka in there, right?

Why do you think motorbike drivers are required to remove their helment when they enter a petrol station?

They're not required to do so, I know because I work at petrol station and we do not enforce it or even have it in our store policy.

The vast majority of petrol stations do and they are legally allowed to refuse to serve people who refuse to remove them. Driving away without paying is a crime too.

You do realise sunglasses hide someone's identity too?

Should we bun them from being worn in public? "

Try wearing sunglasses to the next job interview you have.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If you want to live in Britain you should abide by our rules, no? Also is not already banned in France and I think Germany too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

They're probably hiding a bazooka in there, right?

Why do you think motorbike drivers are required to remove their helment when they enter a petrol station?

They're not required to do so, I know because I work at petrol station and we do not enforce it or even have it in our store policy.

The vast majority of petrol stations do and they are legally allowed to refuse to serve people who refuse to remove them. Driving away without paying is a crime too.

You do realise sunglasses hide someone's identity too?

Should we bun them from being worn in public?

Try wearing sunglasses to the next job interview you have. "

Erm and that is relevant because?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs."

Yes! I'm very socially liberal, but I don't like the burqa and I wouldn't mind if they were banned. Covering your face in public is a security risk, and it's also just unnerving - I like knowing who I'm dealing with, I like knowing the members of the society of which I am a part. The burqa precludes that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face"

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them."

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses. "

A burqa hides someone's face more than sunglasses - it literally covers more of a face than sunglasses do. In fact, if it doesn't, then how about Muslim women just wear sunglasses instead?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses. "

Sunglasses cover the eyes, not the whole face.

What about the prescription glasses that change with light?

Btw I couldn't care about the ban, I like being devils advocate

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden. "

I don't care is the burka is a symbol or not, i object to it on purely practical grounds.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You have to respect the culture of the country you live.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses.

A burqa hides someone's face more than sunglasses - it literally covers more of a face than sunglasses do. In fact, if it doesn't, then how about Muslim women just wear sunglasses instead?

Eyes are the most distinctive and identifiable feature of the face, you can see them in burqa but not in sunglasses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses. "

Let's be realistic, if you were going to commit a crime and needed to hide your identity

You'd choose the burka over a pair of sunglasses

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

No. We pride ourselves on our open mindedness, tolerance and respect for all cultures. Refusing to see the person behind the clothing puts up more barriers and prejudice than any burka could.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden. "

What?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wouldn't be allowed to wear my kilt in Saudi Arabia or would I?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should Britain ban skinny jeans on men?"

Hell yes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses.

Let's be realistic, if you were going to commit a crime and needed to hide your identity

You'd choose the burka over a pair of sunglasses

No, I would wear a batman costume

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"No. We pride ourselves on our open mindedness, tolerance and respect for all cultures. Refusing to see the person behind the clothing puts up more barriers and prejudice than any burka could."

Your sentiments would be correct for the hijab, but are incorrect for the burka in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden.

What?"

To the wee neds, a turban wearer is a sign of a terrorist or suicide bomber.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses.

A burqa hides someone's face more than sunglasses - it literally covers more of a face than sunglasses do. In fact, if it doesn't, then how about Muslim women just wear sunglasses instead?

Eyes are the most distinctive and identifiable feature of the face, you can see them in burqa but not in sunglasses."

I get that. Sunglasses hide someone's eyes, yes. In a true burqa you can't see the eyes, either, btw (niqabs are the item of clothing that allow the eyes to be seen). But it doesn't change the fact that a burqa hides not only someone's eyes, but their hair, their bone structure and jaw, their skin, everything really.

What if I went into a courthouse, or a bank, or even a regular shop or the park with a ski mask on. You don't think people would have a problem with that? It wouldn't look like I'm trying to hide my identity?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden.

What?

To the wee neds, a turban wearer is a sign of a terrorist or suicide bomber. "

I'm no expert but the turban is part of the seik religious dress for the men?

think old bin laden had been wasted several hundred years after their choice to wear a turban???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden.

What?

To the wee neds, a turban wearer is a sign of a terrorist or suicide bomber. "

Darn...all those guys I served with in the military with turbans were terrorists ? Well I never...great to be educated on the forums !

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By *imandher84Couple
over a year ago

Leeds

I apply the same logic i would use to the ban skinny jeans/baggy jeans/anything else you feel the need to get a bee in your bonnet over.

Are you or anyone else really that enlightened you can choose what another individual is allowed to do with there own bodies?

Swinging as an example springs to mind

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

Now we have to be careful because theres nothing inherently wrong with a woman choosing not to work. The statistic is for all muslims and most don't wear tbe burka. So I'd be willing to be the unemployment rate in burka wearing muslims is higher. However, there is a problem with women who want to work and are precluded from doing so.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Tbh I don't think the fact the burka hides a face is the main concern as said sunglasses also hide a face as do caps and hats etc, I think folk fear what they relate it to which like the turban is religion and subsequently terror.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never worn one so can't say how much they limit vision. but i think they shouldn't be allowed when driving.

Some I've seen there's no way you've got full vision while wearing them.

I can agree with that but wearing it in public hides their identity no more than sunglasses.

A burqa hides someone's face more than sunglasses - it literally covers more of a face than sunglasses do. In fact, if it doesn't, then how about Muslim women just wear sunglasses instead?

Eyes are the most distinctive and identifiable feature of the face, you can see them in burqa but not in sunglasses.

Thank you for educating me about the two. I still think you should be allowed to wear one in public but not in private premises such as shops banks etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. I don't agree with anyone telling women who dress modestly out of choice what they can and can't wear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel that all men and women should be able to wear what ever they like.

What tears me in half is, at a petrol station, motorcyclists have to remove there helmet, should a woman in a burka have to do the same? A lot wear incredible clothes under neath or accessories my ex pointed a women out to me in harrows in London who was wearing 4 grands worth of shoes and a handbag

Just because shes a woman, it doesn't mean shes not going to rob the place

And in a Bank.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this? "

OK so ban it ...that changes what exactly? Ahhh I know, maybe someone will ban something you do? Then you feel violated? If they wear it by choice crack on. If not then of course address it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The burka is traditionally worn by chicks in Eastern countries to prevent men getting sexually excited and then causing embaressment to the woman, her family and the man himself.

However in western countries males tend not to express themselves in such sexual manners as we are sexually liberated and have better policing.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this? "

As far as I know it isn't compulsory to wear so it is down to choice. Does the person want the job enough that she has to remove it.

There is an issue over security too, I still say don't ban it as we all should have a choice of what we wear, but if Security at an airport for example asks for it to be removed then it should be.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden.

What?

To the wee neds, a turban wearer is a sign of a terrorist or suicide bomber.

I'm no expert but the turban is part of the seik religious dress for the men?

think old bin laden had been wasted several hundred years after their choice to wear a turban???"

Yep, Sikh*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs."

What will I do in the winter, when it's freezing, and I want to keep my face warm?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Nope. I don't agree with anyone telling women who dress modestly out of choice what they can and can't wear

Are you sure most Burka wearers do so out of choice?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Covering your face in public should be banned, that includes chavs covering their faces with scarves.

It's a security risk, not a manadatory part of Islam and precludes them from many jobs.

What will I do in the winter, when it's freezing, and I want to keep my face warm?"

Bukkake?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Or are they forced to by their male partners or parents etc?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Would you pump a bitch in a burka? Yes, yes I would fs.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Burka's were banned in Chad and Cameron when suicide bombers dressed up in burkas and carried out attacks.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Or are they forced to by their male partners or parents etc?"

Sometimes yes, Hijab is normal for Muslim women, Burka isn't.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this? "

I think we need a bit more evidence that banning burkas would lead to a significant increase in employment than your being 'willing to bet'

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By *eus n EuropaCouple
over a year ago

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"I feel that all men and women should be able to wear what ever they like.

What tears me in half is, at a petrol station, motorcyclists have to remove there helmet, should a woman in a burka have to do the same?

Just because shes a woman, it doesn't mean shes not going to rob the place"

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over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden.

What?

To the wee neds, a turban wearer is a sign of a terrorist or suicide bomber.

I'm no expert but the turban is part of the seik religious dress for the men?

think old bin laden had been wasted several hundred years after their choice to wear a turban???

Yep, Sikh*

So because an individual with an ideology wears an item of dress, everyone else is a risk if they do the same?

Look out Europe. Side parting? Dodgy tash? Then you're about to be...banned!

World's changing. Some of uur countries have been instrumental in changing it. Maybe we should ask those wearing it if they wish to ban it?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this?

I think we need a bit more evidence that banning burkas would lead to a significant increase in employment than your being 'willing to bet'

So just to be clear, you think a burka wearing woman is in no way disadvantaged in the job market?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should Britain ban skinny jeans on men?"

No way! That'd spoil my view!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this? "

Give them the option of wearing just a hijab to work instead, if they refuse and it precludes them from a job then that's their choice and decision ultimately.

I don't think it should be banned because it doesn't do any harm to others and if it's the woman's choice then so be it.

In terms of burkhas being used to facilitate crimes that's probably very few cases. I'm sure if it was happening more often certain political parties and sections of the press would be shouting about it a lot more.

If the woman chooses to wear it then it doesn't effect me. As long as they don't expect to get away with wearing it in places like court etc.

We should all be free to choose what we wear.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this?

Give them the option of wearing just a hijab to work instead, if they refuse and it precludes them from a job then that's their choice and decision ultimately.

I don't think it should be banned because it doesn't do any harm to others and if it's the woman's choice then so be it.

If the woman chooses to wear it then it doesn't effect me. As long as they don't expect to get away with wearing it in places like court etc.

We should all be free to choose what we wear.

As i said, suicide bombers used burkas to carry out attacks in Chad and Cameron so ISIS and ISIS-linked groups do use them to help facilitate terrorist attacks.

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over a year ago

Said it before I'll say it again:

The police are stretched thin enough as it is, they do not need to police a trivial thing such as a ban on the burqua.

For those who view it as a security risk in regards to Islamic terrorism - the reality is that most attacks have been performed through people wearing normal day-to-day clothes.

Which makes sense, if you going to commit a crime such as stabbing, fire arm attacks, commandeering a lorry you want to draw minimal attention to yourself up until that moment.

As for women's rights, so long a woman chooses to wear it on her on prerogative, fine, it doesn't effect me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this?

Give them the option of wearing just a hijab to work instead, if they refuse and it precludes them from a job then that's their choice and decision ultimately.

I don't think it should be banned because it doesn't do any harm to others and if it's the woman's choice then so be it.

If the woman chooses to wear it then it doesn't effect me. As long as they don't expect to get away with wearing it in places like court etc.

We should all be free to choose what we wear.

As i said, suicide bombers used burkas to carry out attacks in Chad and Cameron so ISIS and ISIS-linked groups do use them to help facilitate terrorist attacks. "

A quick search shows that most Islamic based terror attacks in Europe were conducted by people wearing normal clothes - therefore I do not think it is an issue in Europe.

In countries with a far higher muslim majority, maybe it is more common, but then I expect the Burqua to be more common place.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Said it before I'll say it again:

The police are stretched thin enough as it is, they do not need to police a trivial thing such as a ban on the burqua.

For those who view it as a security risk in regards to Islamic terrorism - the reality is that most attacks have been performed through people wearing normal day-to-day clothes.

Which makes sense, if you going to commit a crime such as stabbing, fire arm attacks, commandeering a lorry you want to draw minimal attention to yourself up until that moment.

As for women's rights, so long a woman chooses to wear it on her on prerogative, fine, it doesn't effect me."

The police are stretched thin and CCTV is a major part of how policing is done. Burka's render CCTV useless so it works against the police.

I've already given examples of ISIS groups carrying out attacks in burkas so stop pretending it isn't a risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. I don't agree with anyone telling women who dress modestly out of choice what they can and can't wear

Are you sure most Burka wearers do so out of choice? "

The ladies that I know do so of their own free will. I accept that's not always the case, but those who are made to wear one in public will become even more repressed by a ban - they will more than likely be confined to their homes and have no freedom whatsoever.

I've never heard of any attempted Bank robberies by Muslim females...and I'm pretty sure the red tops would be screaming it from the front page had there been one. Likewise shoplifters are from all cultures - wearing an outfit that covers you from head to toe doesn't increase your propensity to steal.

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By *rladytoyMan
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning."

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The potential for misuse is there and a great idea for a disguise should it be required.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?"

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this?

Give them the option of wearing just a hijab to work instead, if they refuse and it precludes them from a job then that's their choice and decision ultimately.

I don't think it should be banned because it doesn't do any harm to others and if it's the woman's choice then so be it.

If the woman chooses to wear it then it doesn't effect me. As long as they don't expect to get away with wearing it in places like court etc.

We should all be free to choose what we wear.

As i said, suicide bombers used burkas to carry out attacks in Chad and Cameron so ISIS and ISIS-linked groups do use them to help facilitate terrorist attacks.

A quick search shows that most Islamic based terror attacks in Europe were conducted by people wearing normal clothes - therefore I do not think it is an issue in Europe.

In countries with a far higher muslim majority, maybe it is more common, but then I expect the Burqua to be more common place."

It's a tactic used by the group, whether they've used it in europe as opposed to africa is irrelevant because Terrorist attacks are rare events, it's a small sample and the number of deaths vary dramatically. So if banning the burka prevented one 9/11 scale attack then it would be worth it.

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By *rladytoyMan
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is. "

normal practice....in a muslim country. not here or we wouldnt be having this debate. a balaclava and a burka are both just pieces of material that cover your face. But i cant wear mine in public because my imaginary freind in the sky doesnt reqiure it ? lol cmon geez

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So according to the ONS 69% of british women aged 16-64 have jobs. For muslims that figure is 35%.

So for all the people saying "don't ban it" - what would you do to address this?

I think we need a bit more evidence that banning burkas would lead to a significant increase in employment than your being 'willing to bet'

So just to be clear, you think a burka wearing woman is in no way disadvantaged in the job market? "

If a woman turned up for a job interview wearing a burka she would not get the job would she ?

If she went into a bank she would not be able to wear it either.

Personally I find them sad to see, that they feel they need to hide their face like that.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"ban the burka?

No.

Let's ban the idea of telling people what they can and cannot wear.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

Britain is becoming a Muslim country, just look at London for example, in 5 years time if the population continues to grow like it is there will be more Mohamhed's than John's fs. Plus the burka has been a part of British culture since we first allowed it so people are used to it now.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden. "

and that has to win the award for the most ignorant and stupid post on the whole internet, certainly today in any case..

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By *rladytoyMan
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

exactly and this thread is a perfect example of why !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

Why? It's not covering their face

To the ignorant who don't know the difference, it's a symbol of bin laden.

and that has to win the award for the most ignorant and stupid post on the whole internet, certainly today in any case..

My point exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why make most people abit on edge tho

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Give an inch and they'll take a mile.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

No it isn't..

take a minute to look at the demographics of the country now then do the math..

also visit London perhaps..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

It should be banned when driving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Give an inch and they'll take a mile."

I often give an inch

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"It should be banned when driving."

And when paying for petrol, using the post office and bank etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

No it isn't..

take a minute to look at the demographics of the country now then do the math..

also visit London perhaps.."

I have and I do regularly maybe you should do the same.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

We seem to bend over backwards to cater for some people's imaginary friends. When what we should be doing is educating these fuck tards that they are animals by design and not just by behaviour.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

No it isn't..

take a minute to look at the demographics of the country now then do the math..

also visit London perhaps..

I have and I do regularly maybe you should do the same. "

i worked there for over 20 years and still pop up regularly, if your making a point that a town or city has more of one culture or religion with which to enhance what you have said you should have chosen somewhere else maybe..

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

" We seem to bend over backwards to cater for some people's imaginary friends. When what we should be doing is educating these fuck tards that they are animals by design and not just by behaviour. "

We would be better off educating people to be more respectful and understanding of others cultures both religious and non religious. Perhaps a reduction in Islamophobia in society would lead to a drop in potential Daesh recruits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban burka's in certain situations...yes

For example. Whilst driving, in a bank or building society and if entering a church or non Islam building of worship

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By *ot40sCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"Should Britain ban skinny jeans on men?"

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

" We seem to bend over backwards to cater for some people's imaginary friends. When what we should be doing is educating these fuck tards that they are animals by design and not just by behaviour.

No. Fuck em. Idiots. Not just muslamists but chistians and all that lot. Let it go. We've got fridges and condoms, we don't need "big holy books of rules".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe we should be looking at be more tolerant of other beliefs and other cultures.

We as swingers have to hide our identities and our activities because our friends, families and employers are intolerant of our ways. Yet we as a community are the most intolerant people around. Look at our topics, bashing others for their beliefs, body shapes, sexual orientation etc.

How can we expect others to accept us when we don't accept others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It should be banned when driving."

People wear a full face helmet when riding a motorcycle and cover their faces when riding a bicycle, including goggles.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Maybe we should be looking at be more tolerant of other beliefs and other cultures.

How can we expect others to accept us when we don't accept others?"

Good idea. Move to Iran and tell them you're a bisexual swinger and proud. Let me know how you get on.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are people talking about burqas and niqabs?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"It should be banned when driving.

People wear a full face helmet when riding a motorcycle and cover their faces when riding a bicycle, including goggles.

Yes. But it's illegal inside a car.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

No it isn't..

take a minute to look at the demographics of the country now then do the math..

also visit London perhaps..

I have and I do regularly maybe you should do the same.

A lot has changed in 20 years and a lot more will in another 5. Maybe a trip to the Mayors office is required

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly, i was expecting a Daily Mail-esque level of vitriol to come through, but this has actually been a really interesting read. Well done Fabbers.

Should we ban the burqua, hijab, turbans? No. Because we are a liberal country that respects other people's culture. Whether we agree with them or not.

I personally detest the wearing of a niqab, as I find it socially offensive and promotes isolation. But I will defend the right of the person who chooses to wear it.

The question we should ask is how better to include the people who want to practice their cultural or religious beliefs, without weakening or offending those of the majority.

To your point, turbans (in the UK) are worn by Sikhs, not Muslim's.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are people talking about burqas and niqabs?"

Wonder bras!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are people talking about burqas and niqabs?

Wonder bras!"

Bras are another whole new thread.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are people talking about burqas and niqabs?

Wonder bras!

Bras are another whole new thread. "

Naw fs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have to respect the culture of the country you live. "

Or do as we seem to have bend over backwards for every religion that people wish to follow ?

But I think that the burka has been seen as a religious statement but finding out lots of different information can open your eyes ?

It beggers belief that in a Christian country you can't in certain jobs wear a cross ? But no one will say anything about a burka ?

Even though like some have said it's not a necessity to be worn as a religious law ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

No it isn't..

take a minute to look at the demographics of the country now then do the math..

also visit London perhaps..

I have and I do regularly maybe you should do the same.

A lot has changed in 20 years and a lot more will in another 5. Maybe a trip to the Mayors office is required

or you can use the above quoted ONS date..

again you picked the wrong place to enhance what was a wrong assumption ..

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs? "

That's me fucked then, and I'm not a Sikh

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But then the flip side of the coin is, how far do we go, dae we also ban turbans for Sikhs?

That's me fucked then, and I'm not a Sikh

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There's calls to ban Peppa Pig anawl fs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's these weird and misguided directives such as banning a Cross; calling it Winter Festival, not Christmas; that damages us all.

The Christian's sacrifice aspects of their faith. And the non-Christian's get blamed for it.

Yet, no one knows who comes up with these ideas. I assume it's a well-intentioned but foolish Council committee.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

So this debate has underlying tones given that comment?

Is it the dress you oppose or the religion?

You talk of British culture? Is that colloquial to you or the entire country?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have to respect the culture of the country you live.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

So this debate has underlying tones given that comment?

Is it the dress you oppose or the religion?

You talk of British culture? Is that colloquial to you or the entire country? "

I don't oppose any religion. British culture should be colloquial to all who live here. Debate is the operative word.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe we should be looking at be more tolerant of other beliefs and other cultures.

How can we expect others to accept us when we don't accept others?

Good idea. Move to Iran and tell them you're a bisexual swinger and proud. Let me know how you get on....."

Those people you speak of may be intolerant of my ways but at least those views are born of religious faith. Being true to your beliefs is something I can respect.

The intolerance that we can find right here on our doorstep is born out of a combination of ignorance and arrogance. There is no excuse for it.

Yes in Iran we probably wouldn't be able to host an event like swingfields..... Care to finish that thought?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

So this debate has underlying tones given that comment?

Is it the dress you oppose or the religion?

You talk of British culture? Is that colloquial to you or the entire country?

I don't oppose any religion. British culture should be colloquial to all who live here. Debate is the operative word. "

I'm more than happy to debate, but it should be based on factual evidence or sensible opinions not apparent prejudice?

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

Complete nonsense.

Illiterate, swivel eyed nonsense.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can we ban people in suits too? people in suits have done far more damage... folk in suits send your children to die in bullshit wars and such things

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else"

When it comes to the burka/nikab it has everything to do with "anyone else". Ban it, for sure. (That come from someone who not a great banner of things). Trouble is our politicians just don't have the conviction to get on and to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

From someone who's not a great "banner of things" why prioritise this?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

So this debate has underlying tones given that comment?

Is it the dress you oppose or the religion?

You talk of British culture? Is that colloquial to you or the entire country?

I don't oppose any religion. British culture should be colloquial to all who live here. Debate is the operative word.

I'm more than happy to debate, but it should be based on factual evidence or sensible opinions not apparent prejudice?"

Or apparent prejudice. Always makes for a great debate fs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"can we ban people in suits too? people in suits have done far more damage... folk in suits send your children to die in bullshit wars and such things

Track suits

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

Complete nonsense.

Illiterate, swivel eyed nonsense."

Twaddle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's these weird and misguided directives such as banning a Cross; calling it Winter Festival, not Christmas; that damages us all.

The Christian's sacrifice aspects of their faith. And the non-Christian's get blamed for it.

Yet, no one knows who comes up with these ideas. I assume it's a well-intentioned but foolish Council committee."

nobody falls for these rumours do they? that people want to re brand christmas and all that (christianity re branded it by the way, it's a pagan festival just re branded by this religion) it's just propaganda to get the masses muttering...works for some i guess

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

From someone who's not a great "banner of things" why prioritise this? "

The only need to cover your face in normal society it for safety reasons (welding or handling hazardous materials, as examples) or medical reasons (wounds that need protection). Both these scenarios can apply equally to men or women. To my knowledge I have never seen a man wearing a burka. Why is it only women who choose to wear it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can we ban people in suits too? people in suits have done far more damage... folk in suits send your children to die in bullshit wars and such things

Track suits

shold be limited to people on actual tracks! not your 18 stone taxi driver who's biggest walk is to the chippy

but that's just my personal view

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ban the burka?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

will banning them change your life? improve it somehow? i don't see how it could...ever had trouble that wouldn't have occured if there was a ban? i'd be interested to hear how these clothes other people wear have a negative impact on you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

From someone who's not a great "banner of things" why prioritise this?

Probably as outlined more effectively elsewhere...but choice? If we start dictating to people that they can't wear what they want, then we're starting to become a little intrusive in to our right to be who we choose to be?

Yes there are valid security issues, and the banning of political uniforms had its obvious reasons, but it seems to me this is more about people's personal opinion than personal experience?

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

Yes, it would improve my life (and many others, I suspect). I am indifferent to what folk wear, I just feel society works better if we can all see each others faces.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Why interesting?

I'd be more interested in the views of the 26% that said yes, find out their reasoning.

can i wear my balaclava when i go into my bank ?

No because it's not socially accepted or normal practice where as wearing a burka is.

Complete nonsense.

Illiterate, swivel eyed nonsense.

Twaddle "

Yep that too.

Thank you. I forgot to add twaddle.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Do we ban people wearing hoodies with scarves over their faces too?

Or is it ok because they are often white and Christian.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

Yes, it would improve my life (and many others, I suspect). I am indifferent to what folk wear, I just feel society works better if we can all see each others faces. "

you didn't say how it would improve your life...just that it would.

are you scared/worried if you can't see a persons face?

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

Yes, it would improve my life (and many others, I suspect). I am indifferent to what folk wear, I just feel society works better if we can all see each others faces. "

I dunno. There are some faces which would benefit greatly from being covered up.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Prefer to see EVERYONE's face..... White, Christian or otherwise.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

Yes, it would improve my life (and many others, I suspect). I am indifferent to what folk wear, I just feel society works better if we can all see each others faces. "

it would sadden me to live in such a closed minded and scared country

i like seeing folk in all kinds of clothes...it's improved my life living in such a cultural mix...so you have to count the people who's lives it would impact negatively, a lot of folk would mourn the loss of seeing these people in our communities...i personally welcome them! dress how yo like, cover your faces...it makes me smile to live in such a place where we welcome everyone!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Prefer to see EVERYONE's face..... White, Christian or otherwise....."

why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got told to take my crash helmet off in a petrol station a few times

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.

Couldn't give a shite to be honest..

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Prefer to see EVERYONE's face..... White, Christian or otherwise.....

why?"

Just do, it is normal to show your face....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Prefer to see EVERYONE's face..... White, Christian or otherwise....."

ban all beards then..?

society works best when we accept other's differences as not something to be feared or discriminated against just because they are different..

where i to be on a plane or the tube it makes zilch all difference to my journey if the pilot or driver is wearing a particular item of clothing etc..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Prefer to see EVERYONE's face..... White, Christian or otherwise.....

why?

Just do, it is normal to show your face...."

unless you don't want to...then it's not normal. your just applying your own standards of normality and stating everyone should adhere to them for your own peace of mind...

i got the shit kicked out of me years ago, four fellas who's faces i could see.

the lady in the takeaway, who's face i couldn't see, took me into her shop and ministered to me then sent me to hospital in a taxi

the ability to see someone’s face has zero bearing on the type of human they are.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Still best if we all show our faces.....just the way I and many others prefer it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still best if we all show our faces.....just the way I and many others prefer it. "

what about the many who don't?

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Still best if we all show our faces.....just the way I and many others prefer it.

what about the many who don't?"

Oh, I guess there will be a few....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ban the burka?

Just the burka? Not the hijab or niqab or chardor?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still best if we all show our faces.....just the way I and many others prefer it.

what about the many who don't?

Oh, I guess there will be a few...."

74% of 'this morning' viewers would agree no to ban it.

your in a minority...the rest aren't so easily spooked

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

I may be, but frankly, I doubt it.....

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife

"No! What others wear, for whatever reasons, is bugger all to do with anyone else

From someone who's not a great "banner of things" why prioritise this?

I thought it was worn to stop men admiring other men's wives

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My friend got told by the police to remove her scarf as it was over her face.

I have no idea how this is any different other than religious reasons.

I would tell that cop to fuck off to the station and read about law."

Thats what i said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My friend got told by the police to remove her scarf as it was over her face.

I have no idea how this is any different other than religious reasons.

I would tell that cop to fuck off to the station and read about law.

Thats what i said."

Personally I think this story is fabricated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I may be, but frankly, I doubt it....."

nah, most of us are chill and not scared of difference, it's all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. Seeing someone's face doesn't change who they are inside. I have more respect for people who are dedicated enough to something they believe in to walk the streets being proud of who they are.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

I see no reason to legislate for the way people dress, except in circumstances that require it. Gross indecency being the obvious one. But also Security at airports, Work uniforms etc.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"My friend got told by the police to remove her scarf as it was over her face.

I have no idea how this is any different other than religious reasons.

I would tell that cop to fuck off to the station and read about law.

Thats what i said.

Personally I think this story is fabricated."

I see no issue with the police needing to understand who they are talking to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Comfort,modesty and decency dwell in a persons mind, not in a burka or any other articles of clothing.

Should it be banned in the UK, I think, yes it should, as should anything else that distracts from and deliberately marks women as private and restricted property, nonpersons. The burkha sets women apart from men and apart from the world, it restrains them, confines them, grooms them for docility. A mind can be cramped just as a body may be, and a burkha blinkers both vision and security. It is the mark of a kind of apartheid, not the domination of a race but of a sex.

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