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"I believe there was a person , probably a preacher called Jesus. Do I believe he was the son of some all powerful god and rose from the dead - ummm no " | |||
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"I believe a guy lived about 2000 years ago who seriously pissed off some people and got killed for it. I don't believe he was the son of a god." +1 | |||
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"I beleave 13 blokes who were quite clever sat down and said " rite all these dip shits about we can't controle" " I know we're tell them I'm (Jesus the cowboy builder who knows a scam or two) the son of this bloke who lives up in the sky and while we're at it we can rob them of there money by telling them to give it to the church were they can come and talk the bloke in the sky" millions beleave it took it hook line and sinker but if you tell them the paints wet there still fucking touch it " Did those "dip shits" also not know how to spell? | |||
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"According to the Talmud, Jesus is in hell in a pot of boiling semen." Bit harsh. | |||
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" Did those "dip shits" also not know how to spell?" Why do some people have to go on about spelling. He expressed an opinion on the thread which was relevant. Going on about spelling isn't. Leave him be. I think like others, there was a preacher called Jesus who had lots of followers. Im guessing he was a clever and charismatic man. He upset the Romans and died as a result. I don't think he was the son of God. | |||
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"According to the Talmud, Jesus is in hell in a pot of boiling semen. Bit harsh." To paraphrase a saying: "hell hath no fury like a religious group ridiculed" | |||
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"...a thing called love? Just listen to the rhythm of my heart. There's a chance we could make it now We'll be rocking 'til the sun goes down I believe in a thing called love! " Love a bit of Darkness | |||
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" Did those "dip shits" also not know how to spell? Why do some people have to go on about spelling. He expressed an opinion on the thread which was relevant. Going on about spelling isn't. Leave him be. I think like others, there was a preacher called Jesus who had lots of followers. Im guessing he was a clever and charismatic man. He upset the Romans and died as a result. I don't think he was the son of God. " yep I can't spell to save my life and that combined with iPhone auto correct makes for interesting reading. And grammar I've no comprehension of it what so ever P.s I had help with the big words in this | |||
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"he was the founder of christianity which is the largest religion " He was the inspiration, but I don't think he was the founder. I think we can thank St Peter for that. | |||
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"I believe there was a person , probably a preacher called Jesus. Do I believe he was the son of some all powerful god and rose from the dead - ummm no " Very much this. And based on my (admittedly limited) knowledge of this persons teaching; he would probably be horrified at how his inclusive preaching was perverted into a religion of control and oppression. Nita | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... " Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it." Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well. | |||
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"he posts on here sometimes ^^^^^^^^ what he said " I thought he would have said a few words today | |||
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"he posts on here sometimes ^^^^^^^^ what he said I thought he would have said a few words today " if you search Jesus there are alot on here | |||
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"he posts on here sometimes ^^^^^^^^ what he said I thought he would have said a few words today if you search Jesus there are alot on here " I'm not looking for God or Jesus, just chest pics | |||
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"he posts on here sometimes ^^^^^^^^ what he said I thought he would have said a few words today if you search Jesus there are alot on here " be a busy day for the jesus's today. i would imagine most of them will be fully booked | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well." None of these things are factual concerning the Good news or Gospel of the Lord... The Gospel is the very essence of ancient Hebrew or Israelite teaching, which pre dates all the faiths mentioned here.. | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well." It may be Mithraism I was thinking about with regards the resurrection. | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well. None of these things are factual concerning the Good news or Gospel of the Lord... The Gospel is the very essence of ancient Hebrew or Israelite teaching, which pre dates all the faiths mentioned here.. " Load of old pony. The Bible is, at best, a miracle of remarketing to suppress the masses when they did not have the collective intelligence to dispell it. How people still believe this guff shows how many are remain weak minded and susceptible to suggestion. With regards Christians, the ones I've met and known are some of the most sanctimonious and un-Christian people I've ever met! | |||
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"According to the Talmud, Jesus is in hell in a pot of boiling semen." Some guys have all the luck. | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well. None of these things are factual concerning the Good news or Gospel of the Lord... The Gospel is the very essence of ancient Hebrew or Israelite teaching, which pre dates all the faiths mentioned here.. Load of old pony. The Bible is, at best, a miracle of remarketing to suppress the masses when they did not have the collective intelligence to dispell it. How people still believe this guff shows how many are remain weak minded and susceptible to suggestion. With regards Christians, the ones I've met and known are some of the most sanctimonious and un-Christian people I've ever met! " You come across as a very close minded, bitter entity the kind that has held back mankinds progress and happyness at every given opportunity | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well. None of these things are factual concerning the Good news or Gospel of the Lord... The Gospel is the very essence of ancient Hebrew or Israelite teaching, which pre dates all the faiths mentioned here.. Load of old pony. The Bible is, at best, a miracle of remarketing to suppress the masses when they did not have the collective intelligence to dispell it. How people still believe this guff shows how many are remain weak minded and susceptible to suggestion. With regards Christians, the ones I've met and known are some of the most sanctimonious and un-Christian people I've ever met! You come across as a very close minded, bitter entity the kind that has held back mankinds progress and happyness at every given opportunity" The polar opposite. I am not restricted by beliefs that have caused endless bloodshed to mankind. I leave bitterness to the people who attack each other tgat dont believe in the same imaginary friends as them. You, my friend, would appear closed minded, or brain washed by the need to believe... | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well. None of these things are factual concerning the Good news or Gospel of the Lord... The Gospel is the very essence of ancient Hebrew or Israelite teaching, which pre dates all the faiths mentioned here.. Load of old pony. The Bible is, at best, a miracle of remarketing to suppress the masses when they did not have the collective intelligence to dispell it. How people still believe this guff shows how many are remain weak minded and susceptible to suggestion. With regards Christians, the ones I've met and known are some of the most sanctimonious and un-Christian people I've ever met! You come across as a very close minded, bitter entity the kind that has held back mankinds progress and happyness at every given opportunity" that's not a very christian response to someone who has a different opinion than you.. | |||
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" His Life, death and Resurrection is unique amongst the worlds faiths... Pssst. Its not. Every story in the Bible is bastardised from more Ancient religions and beliefs. Check out Zoastrianism and resurrection, its a very similar story. Jesus existed. Carried on John the Baptist's preachings. Did a few party tricks. Pissed a lot of people off, and got executed for it. Christianity borrowed heavily from Mithraism as well. None of these things are factual concerning the Good news or Gospel of the Lord... The Gospel is the very essence of ancient Hebrew or Israelite teaching, which pre dates all the faiths mentioned here.. Load of old pony. The Bible is, at best, a miracle of remarketing to suppress the masses when they did not have the collective intelligence to dispell it. How people still believe this guff shows how many are remain weak minded and susceptible to suggestion. With regards Christians, the ones I've met and known are some of the most sanctimonious and un-Christian people I've ever met! You come across as a very close minded, bitter entity the kind that has held back mankinds progress and happyness at every given opportunity" Could you please illustrate where an atheist hilighting the many contradictions and hypocrisies that are rife amongst religious doctrines and propagated by many of their proponents has lead to holding back humankinds happiness ? You may need to realise that as an atheist I would share a great many of the positive philosophy that your religion pretends to advocate yet without the convoluted oxymoronc worship and rule structure It is not peace or love concepts that makes a person a Christian it is the other twisted often contradictory nonsense that does and it can indeed be evidenced that those parts of religious belief are indeed a contributory factor within humanities lack of progress x | |||
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"You err thru your bitterness my friend, and cannot see that what you accuse others of you are seven fold more guilty yourself... No other Historical figure has changed the lives of untold millions over the centuries for good... " Buddha? Confucious? Allah? As I said, nothing more sanctimonious or un-Christian, than a Christian! | |||
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"You err thru your bitterness my friend, and cannot see that what you accuse others of you are seven fold more guilty yourself... No other Historical figure has changed the lives of untold millions over the centuries for good... " Buddha xxx who predates your myth by some time xxx in fact it is suggested that much of the positive parts of the Christ myth were stolen from Buddhism xxx | |||
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"You err thru your bitterness my friend, and cannot see that what you accuse others of you are seven fold more guilty yourself... No other Historical figure has changed the lives of untold millions over the centuries for good... Buddha? Confucious? Allah? As I said, nothing more sanctimonious or un-Christian, than a Christian! " | |||
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"You err thru your bitterness my friend, and cannot see that what you accuse others of you are seven fold more guilty yourself... No other Historical figure has changed the lives of untold millions over the centuries for good... Buddha xxx who predates your myth by some time xxx in fact it is suggested that much of the positive parts of the Christ myth were stolen from Buddhism xxx " psst.. don't mention the 'new' testament.. | |||
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"He's not the messiah....He's a very naughty boy." and he's not coming out so piss off | |||
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"He's not the messiah....He's a very naughty boy. and he's not coming out so piss off " | |||
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"Jesus" Yeah but he's injured for the rest of the season isn't he? Aguero has hit form anyway so not such a loss to City. | |||
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"Jesus Yeah but he's injured for the rest of the season isn't he? Aguero has hit form anyway so not such a loss to City." lol ?? | |||
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"You err thru your bitterness my friend, and cannot see that what you accuse others of you are seven fold more guilty yourself... No other Historical figure has changed the lives of untold millions over the centuries for good... Buddha xxx who predates your myth by some time xxx in fact it is suggested that much of the positive parts of the Christ myth were stolen from Buddhism xxx psst.. don't mention the 'new' testament.. " Dan Browns ancestors wrote a lot of that... not a lot of people know that! | |||
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" They do say dont discuss religion,sex and politics! I do as previously stated, always find it disheartening, to see that the Christian faith seems to be far more open to ridicule as opposed to other faiths. Many people have faiths and beliefs. Cant we just respect them and pay no attention if we dont approve? Anything new age and trendy relating to hindu faith and buddhism is seen as liberating and enchanting. There is some good in the christian faith. " Do you respect homophobic people? Or respect people who deny x aped women the right to an abortion ? Historically Islam and Christianity are the same Abrahamic doctrine, with Christianity stealing a little bit of Buddhism to give a gentle edge to it's bronze age tyranny Buddhism is NOT religion it's a philosophy a Buddhist can be either theistic or atheistic | |||
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"pretty much all of the main religions are inventions often by men to control and give their own form of guidance etc to those they seek to control.. i have no issue's with the good that all religions do but when as in this post someone who professes to be of a faith starts sneering and having a less than christian view to other peoples opinions it just serves to paint them in a less than christian light.. no need for it and it only adds to the criticism some have for all of faith.. " Well said | |||
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"According to the Talmud, Jesus is in hell in a pot of boiling semen. Some guys have all the luck. " Best post ever | |||
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" They do say dont discuss religion,sex and politics! I do as previously stated, always find it disheartening, to see that the Christian faith seems to be far more open to ridicule as opposed to other faiths. Many people have faiths and beliefs. Cant we just respect them and pay no attention if we dont approve? Anything new age and trendy relating to hindu faith and buddhism is seen as liberating and enchanting. There is some good in the christian faith. Do you respect homophobic people? Or respect people who deny x aped women the right to an abortion ? Historically Islam and Christianity are the same Abrahamic doctrine, with Christianity stealing a little bit of Buddhism to give a gentle edge to it's bronze age tyranny Buddhism is NOT religion it's a philosophy a Buddhist can be either theistic or atheistic " Is that a rhetorical question or aimed specifically at me? If it is Im unsure why you posed it as I havent suggested I do, or suggested Buddhism is a religion? I know many hypocrytical Christians. I also know some very kind open minded church goers who contribute to helping non-believers,whilst being ridiculed for belief. I also know some lovely aethists along with some rather horrible opinionated ones,intent on ridiculing believers, which does nothing other than offend. Get the picture? | |||
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"I believe there was a person , probably a preacher called Jesus. Do I believe he was the son of some all powerful god and rose from the dead - ummm no " Agree totally. I will possibly controversely add that if he existed today he would be deemed a loon. | |||
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"I believe there was a person , probably a preacher called Jesus. Do I believe he was the son of some all powerful god and rose from the dead - ummm no Agree totally. I will possibly controversely add that if he existed today he would be deemed a loon." Loons have established quite a few followers over the years if you look at history. Heck look how passionate and riled up hundreds of thousands of people get, just following 22 blokes kick a ball around! We all follow and believe in something. | |||
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"I believe there was a person , probably a preacher called Jesus. Do I believe he was the son of some all powerful god and rose from the dead - ummm no Agree totally. I will possibly controversely add that if he existed today he would be deemed a loon." yet president trump is running america. | |||
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"there is no historical evidence apart from writings (scripture) about him. idk if he existed or not. if he did he was pretty intelligent, and cool i guess coz he managed to go against the old testament teachings." No evidence just the year 2017 this stands for 2017 years since he died and also things like history the word comes from his story and most people enjoy good Friday and Easter Monday off work but don't know why there is lots of things in our every day life that people don't really know it relates to Jesus and religion . When it comes to evidence it's called faith. | |||
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"I believe in the Easter bunny...I went to my sisters today and she said one came by and left a chocolate egg for me no reason to think she would lie about that." Didn't leave me anything - furry little shit | |||
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"I believe in the Easter bunny...I went to my sisters today and she said one came by and left a chocolate egg for me no reason to think she would lie about that. Didn't leave me anything - furry little shit " There was a furry little shit in my back garden this morning. Most likely a fox after eating the easter bunny | |||
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"I believe in the Easter bunny...I went to my sisters today and she said one came by and left a chocolate egg for me no reason to think she would lie about that. Didn't leave me anything - furry little shit " Not even a little furry shit | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith." | |||
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"there is no historical evidence apart from writings (scripture) about him. idk if he existed or not. if he did he was pretty intelligent, and cool i guess coz he managed to go against the old testament teachings." There is historical evidence outside the bible of the Saviours existance, for instance those that had Him put to death, the Jews themselves, in their Talmud they bitterly attack Him also they give the reasons for His death, also a Jewish Priest/historian called Josephus there are also Roman historians that make mention of Him and even of a Roman emporer whom summoned some of His relatives to Rome to question them about Him... | |||
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"Jesus set a precedent for compassion , redemption and what many now refer to as "humane" principles/beliefs. . He wasn't a tyrant that butchered and pillaged or inflicted cruelty in the pursuit of power. Was he the son of God? Who knows. He was however gentle, selfless and kind person who inspired many to follow those examples through them learning about accounts of his life and struggles. Thomas Jefferson ( a desist, not a Christian) conceeded the morals and examples of Jesus were amongst the greatest gifts to ever be offered to mankind. " You do know what a precedent means ? Many cultures and philosophies precede the new testament Parables are obviously adaptions of Zen, Taoist and Buddhist cryptic stories | |||
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"If people find comfort in the bible thats fine .... Like assops fables .... its a collection of stories ... There probably was a guy called Jesus .... and he probably was the local story teller .... every village has one . " Every village has an idiot as well lol | |||
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"I beleave 13 blokes who were quite clever sat down and said " rite all these dip shits about we can't controle" " I know we're tell them I'm (Jesus the cowboy builder who knows a scam or two) the son of this bloke who lives up in the sky and while we're at it we can rob them of there money by telling them to give it to the church were they can come and talk the bloke in the sky" millions beleave it took it hook line and sinker but if you tell them the paints wet there still fucking touch it Did those "dip shits" also not know how to spell?" Well said xx | |||
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" As per most of the replies above BUT. It's just as naive to claim he isn't something as it is to claim he is ! We base all our opinions on our current intelligence. Years ago everyone believed the Earth to be flat based on what they knew at that time. The universe is full of unknown energy forms and powers. We don't know or fully understand how they work. Maybe our knowledge in the future will interpret them to be a God but not as we understood them. Always have an open mind." Actually there is no evidence in any histories of man of a belief in a flat Earth. This is an urban myth. If you stand on the shore you can see the horizon is curved...clearly. Better still if you stand on a high point. As ships sail away from land...the hulls disappear first and the masts last. Eratosthenes even calculated the diameter of the Earth in ancient Egypt....he was damn close too! I would however, agree in putting belief in Jesus as son of God alongside belief in a flat Earth. Both nonsense. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith." You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... | |||
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"there is no historical evidence apart from writings (scripture) about him. idk if he existed or not. if he did he was pretty intelligent, and cool i guess coz he managed to go against the old testament teachings. No evidence just the year 2017 this stands for 2017 years since he died and also things like history the word comes from his story and most people enjoy good Friday and Easter Monday off work but don't know why there is lots of things in our every day life that people don't really know it relates to Jesus and religion . When it comes to evidence it's called faith." faith/belief is the opposite of evidence. words are not evidence either, sorry to say. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... " I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... " That is rhetorical nonsense For a start a heart is a biological blood pump There are billions of as yet undiscovered concepts and hoping a sentient creator exists will help us not a jot in either discovering them or understanding them xxx | |||
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"there is no historical evidence apart from writings (scripture) about him. idk if he existed or not. if he did he was pretty intelligent, and cool i guess coz he managed to go against the old testament teachings. There is historical evidence outside the bible of the Saviours existance, for instance those that had Him put to death, the Jews themselves, in their Talmud they bitterly attack Him also they give the reasons for His death, also a Jewish Priest/historian called Josephus there are also Roman historians that make mention of Him and even of a Roman emporer whom summoned some of His relatives to Rome to question them about Him..." these are just scriptures also. something more official might be a better evidence. like we all know joseph travelled to bethlehem because they had to register for something (sorry can't remember what), where's those records? | |||
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" Did those "dip shits" also not know how to spell? Why do some people have to go on about spelling. He expressed an opinion on the thread which was relevant. Going on about spelling isn't. Leave him be. I think like others, there was a preacher called Jesus who had lots of followers. Im guessing he was a clever and charismatic man. He upset the Romans and died as a result. I don't think he was the son of God. " | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss " Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... | |||
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"there is no historical evidence apart from writings (scripture) about him. idk if he existed or not. if he did he was pretty intelligent, and cool i guess coz he managed to go against the old testament teachings. There is historical evidence outside the bible of the Saviours existance, for instance those that had Him put to death, the Jews themselves, in their Talmud they bitterly attack Him also they give the reasons for His death, also a Jewish Priest/historian called Josephus there are also Roman historians that make mention of Him and even of a Roman emporer whom summoned some of His relatives to Rome to question them about Him... these are just scriptures also. something more official might be a better evidence. like we all know joseph travelled to bethlehem because they had to register for something (sorry can't remember what), where's those records?" He was off to the DFS sale. I do believe tgat is true and they had one on as there always is at Xmas and Easter | |||
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"Jesus set a precedent for compassion , redemption and what many now refer to as "humane" principles/beliefs. . He wasn't a tyrant that butchered and pillaged or inflicted cruelty in the pursuit of power. Was he the son of God? Who knows. He was however gentle, selfless and kind person who inspired many to follow those examples through them learning about accounts of his life and struggles. Thomas Jefferson ( a desist, not a Christian) conceeded the morals and examples of Jesus were amongst the greatest gifts to ever be offered to mankind. You do know what a precedent means ? Many cultures and philosophies precede the new testament Parables are obviously adaptions of Zen, Taoist and Buddhist cryptic stories " Of course they do, Christianity is based on Judaism which preceded it by a good 1500 years or so. Im not suggesting it's foundation took place within a sterile vacuum. Many facets of Culture are a composite or revised version of what came before. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... " Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... That is rhetorical nonsense For a start a heart is a biological blood pump There are billions of as yet undiscovered concepts and hoping a sentient creator exists will help us not a jot in either discovering them or understanding them xxx " Its a well known fact that pride blocks one progress | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... " Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... " My intellectual pride is based on the fact I seem to know considerably more about Christianity than most of the Christians who have posted on here, yet I have been an atheist for years. As for being humble, show me any church official who is and I may, note MAY consider it. The various Christian sects are so loaded with money they could help their poorer congregations, yet they hold on to it with both hands. Did not your saviour state that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven? Maybe have a word with your leaders about that. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) " Look at the abuse, the hostility on this thread towards the Saviour, theres ample more than ample evidence of the bitterness there in... | |||
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"there is no historical evidence apart from writings (scripture) about him. idk if he existed or not. if he did he was pretty intelligent, and cool i guess coz he managed to go against the old testament teachings. There is historical evidence outside the bible of the Saviours existance, for instance those that had Him put to death, the Jews themselves, in their Talmud they bitterly attack Him also they give the reasons for His death, also a Jewish Priest/historian called Josephus there are also Roman historians that make mention of Him and even of a Roman emporer whom summoned some of His relatives to Rome to question them about Him... these are just scriptures also. something more official might be a better evidence. like we all know joseph travelled to bethlehem because they had to register for something (sorry can't remember what), where's those records?" Shhh actually the story tells us Soon after Joseph and Mary were married in Nazareth, a command went forth from the emperor Augustus Caesar through all the lands of the Roman empire, for all the people to go to the cities and towns from which their families had come, and there to have their names written down upon a list, for the emperor wished a list to be made of all the people under his rule. As both Joseph and Mary had come from the family of David the king, Now the story is full of holes but one of the largest is according to the records there was no census around that time , erm There is just a whole dose of poetic licence in the bible and very little fact even when it could be possible Any bible schooler knows that Luke and John contradict each other upon the childhood whereabouts of the mythic Jesus | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. " the people aren't christianity though, christs teachings are. and if you don't follow them then you're not a christian. although just being baptised a christian also makes you one somehow. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) Look at the abuse, the hostility on this thread towards the Saviour, theres ample more than ample evidence of the bitterness there in... " There may be bitterness towards the religion but a person cannot be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. the people aren't christianity though, christs teachings are. and if you don't follow them then you're not a christian. although just being baptised a christian also makes you one somehow." ooh, so to summarise...christ does not even need to exist for you to follow his teachings, and neither does god. i think that makes sense? | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) " spot on. Sadly some of the people on the post taking a more scientific approach have decided to be slightly condescending. Respect? | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) Look at the abuse, the hostility on this thread towards the Saviour, theres ample more than ample evidence of the bitterness there in... " There has been no bitterness against Jesus. Against the evangelising some of the posters haven't been able to resist though... | |||
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"I believe that he existed and was fighting for what he believed in, he was the founder of christianity which is the largest religion " He did NOT found Christianity as we know it. We have St Paul and his followers to thank for that. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) Look at the abuse, the hostility on this thread towards the Saviour, theres ample more than ample evidence of the bitterness there in... " Please use accurate rhetoric People are not hostile towards a saviour or the followers unless they are homophobic They are however unconvinced by an unconvincing fairy tail with blatant contradictions and some are saddened that the myth is perpetuated and still used to manipulate good human children into thinking a particular | |||
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"I believe that he existed and was fighting for what he believed in, he was the founder of christianity which is the largest religion He did NOT found Christianity as we know it. We have St Paul and his followers to thank for that." We can thank St Paul for Christianity's delightful attitude towards women as well. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. the people aren't christianity though, christs teachings are. and if you don't follow them then you're not a christian. although just being baptised a christian also makes you one somehow." I was Baptised. I am not Christian. That was my parents choice, not mine. I use free thought for my own spirituality | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) spot on. Sadly some of the people on the post taking a more scientific approach have decided to be slightly condescending. Respect? " richard dawkins was very condesecnding towards religion. that's just how some people are when it comes to faith based things to a evidence brained mind, especially when religion has held back science for a very long time and social progress also. although i can see some ethical benefits of religion there are way more disadvantages. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. the people aren't christianity though, christs teachings are. and if you don't follow them then you're not a christian. although just being baptised a christian also makes you one somehow. I was Baptised. I am not Christian. That was my parents choice, not mine. I use free thought for my own spirituality " idk what the churches (or 'god's) stance is on that. not saying you are one myself but it'd be interesting to find out the official say on it. | |||
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"The thing that strikes me most is how Christians (but seemingly no other faith) can be so viciously and openly attacked or mocked without repercussion." If you choose not to see the attacks made against Judaism and Islam even now that doesn't mean it's not happening. I would be stating my disagreements just as equally to followers of those faiths if they came on here and started throwing around accusations, but funnily enough, they haven't. Jesus was an extremely important prophet of Islam too. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Although I do think people should be respectful to those whose opinions differ to theirs (both ways ) spot on. Sadly some of the people on the post taking a more scientific approach have decided to be slightly condescending. Respect? " Actually I think most have been most respectful and only countering points made in a reasoned and articulate manner without resorting to personal Insults However simply referring to the Jesus myth as the saviour is indeed offensive and condescending , directly implying he thinks we are all so bad and need saving !! That's almost as condescending as suggesting we may think Wales is an animal | |||
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"The thing that strikes me most is how Christians (but seemingly no other faith) can be so viciously and openly attacked or mocked without repercussion. I'm not religious and don't believe in supernatural prophets but from what i know of Christianity it encourages followers to be charitable, kind, to excercise responsibility for their personal actions and strive to help those in need. I can think of other religions that had they been allowed to take root in Europe - people on this site could be flogged, mutilated or thrown off roof tops for engaging in harmless adult consensual relations. Certainly people are entitled to believe what they choose, there's really no need to be so militant and rude about it And while Christianity certainly has its faults, there are many other faiths that are sycophantic, creulty and evil personified." | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. " Christ came to save the sinner, His Gospel is for everybody,I can go into any Christian congregation and be treated with dignity and respect, for the Christian well knows he/she is a sinner themselves... I wondered when the bitter spirit motivating you would cry out Tranny.. Well unworthy as I am I just had to stand up for the greatest person that ever graced this planet with His presence... ... | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. Christ came to save the sinner, His Gospel is for everybody,I can go into any Christian congregation and be treated with dignity and respect, for the Christian well knows he/she is a sinner themselves... I wondered when the bitter spirit motivating you would cry out Tranny.. Well unworthy as I am I just had to stand up for the greatest person that ever graced this planet with His presence... ..." Personally I think that was Elvis. He was far more entertaining | |||
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"The thing that strikes me most is how Christians (but seemingly no other faith) can be so viciously and openly attacked or mocked without repercussion. I'm not religious and don't believe in supernatural prophets but from what i know of Christianity it encourages followers to be charitable, kind, to excercise responsibility for their personal actions and strive to help those in need. I can think of other religions that had they been allowed to take root in Europe - people on this site could be flogged, mutilated or thrown off roof tops for engaging in harmless adult consensual relations. Certainly people are entitled to believe what they choose, there's really no need to be so militant and rude about it And while Christianity certainly has its faults, there are many other faiths that are sycophantic, creulty and evil personified." Actually you may note that the Abrahamic religions are the most vicious and open attackers of everyone, just because you may be in a temperate European environment I may suggest a visit to to USA, Israel or an Islamic country You may find that we vocal atheists have no venom toward any person following any religion that is not trying to impose bronze age draconian life styles upon others Of course on an open forum if a believer articulates a view that they think we need saving we may ask for evidence why they hope that and present data of our own that may have lead us to discount the validity of any of the human invented God concepts xxx | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. Christ came to save the sinner, His Gospel is for everybody,I can go into any Christian congregation and be treated with dignity and respect, for the Christian well knows he/she is a sinner themselves... I wondered when the bitter spirit motivating you would cry out Tranny.. Well unworthy as I am I just had to stand up for the greatest person that ever graced this planet with His presence... ..." Furthermore, sin is a device created by religions to justify being cruel. Im sin free as I dont subscribe to these archaic beliefs | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? " Some rather mischievous Christians I know would argue that the palpable bitterness against the Christian God is indeed strong evidence for his existance lol!! | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. Christ came to save the sinner, His Gospel is for everybody,I can go into any Christian congregation and be treated with dignity and respect, for the Christian well knows he/she is a sinner themselves... I wondered when the bitter spirit motivating you would cry out Tranny.. Well unworthy as I am I just had to stand up for the greatest person that ever graced this planet with His presence... ..." Can you answer his point ? We all love tvs on here and many of us atheists have been spat upon by believers in a saviour whilst trying to defend sexuality choices | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. the people aren't christianity though, christs teachings are. and if you don't follow them then you're not a christian. although just being baptised a christian also makes you one somehow. I was Baptised. I am not Christian. That was my parents choice, not mine. I use free thought for my own spirituality idk what the churches (or 'god's) stance is on that. not saying you are one myself but it'd be interesting to find out the official say on it." They would say personal choice is required at some point. | |||
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"The thing that strikes me most is how Christians (but seemingly no other faith) can be so viciously and openly attacked or mocked without repercussion. I'm not religious and don't believe in supernatural prophets but from what i know of Christianity it encourages followers to be charitable, kind, to excercise responsibility for their personal actions and strive to help those in need. I can think of other religions that had they been allowed to take root in Europe - people on this site could be flogged, mutilated or thrown off roof tops for engaging in harmless adult consensual relations. Certainly people are entitled to believe what they choose, there's really no need to be so militant and rude about it And while Christianity certainly has its faults, there are many other faiths that are sycophantic, creulty and evil personified. Actually you may note that the Abrahamic religions are the most vicious and open attackers of everyone, just because you may be in a temperate European environment I may suggest a visit to to USA, Israel or an Islamic country You may find that we vocal atheists have no venom toward any person following any religion that is not trying to impose bronze age draconian life styles upon others Of course on an open forum if a believer articulates a view that they think we need saving we may ask for evidence why they hope that and present data of our own that may have lead us to discount the validity of any of the human invented God concepts xxx " Islam isn't comparable to Christianity, certainly it bases itself on the same foundation but there are marked differences. Allowing the enslavement of non muslims, sex with 6 year old children (Muhammad married a 6 year old and engaged in forms of non penetrative pederasty with the child, consummating the union at 9 when the child was still a prepubescent), the list goes on. Certainly there are parallels and shared stories by virtue of sharing the same base foundational narratives but completely different otherwise. | |||
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" As per most of the replies above BUT. It's just as naive to claim he isn't something as it is to claim he is ! We base all our opinions on our current intelligence. Years ago everyone believed the Earth to be flat based on what they knew at that time. The universe is full of unknown energy forms and powers. We don't know or fully understand how they work. Maybe our knowledge in the future will interpret them to be a God but not as we understood them. Always have an open mind." This. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Some rather mischievous Christians I know would argue that the palpable bitterness against the Christian God is indeed strong evidence for his existance lol!!" And all atheists would tell those malevolent xitans that we are unable to vent bitterness towards something non existent However we may vent disdain towards a human invented doctrine or a person who follows the vile parts of such doctrine , I cite homophobia and sexism as two common attributes | |||
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"Yaaaaaawn The people that are anti god are equally as boring as the pro god posse! BORING! Just live and let live. You are the ones that start wars. Find something constructive to be angry about. " Yep. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Genuinely not trying to take the piss but how can someone be bitter towards someone they don't believe exists ? Some rather mischievous Christians I know would argue that the palpable bitterness against the Christian God is indeed strong evidence for his existance lol!! And all atheists would tell those malevolent xitans that we are unable to vent bitterness towards something non existent " They would argue that the evident bitterness therefore simply proves their point. | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. Christ came to save the sinner, His Gospel is for everybody,I can go into any Christian congregation and be treated with dignity and respect, for the Christian well knows he/she is a sinner themselves... I wondered when the bitter spirit motivating you would cry out Tranny.. Well unworthy as I am I just had to stand up for the greatest person that ever graced this planet with His presence... ... Can you answer his point ? We all love tvs on here and many of us atheists have been spat upon by believers in a saviour whilst trying to defend sexuality choices " I am not a church goer, nor do I consider myself worthy of the title Christian, wether it be via the mouth of a Tranny or a Prophet matters not for Truth is Truth and somebody had to stand up for the good name of Jesus the Christ.... | |||
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"I would respect Christians a lot more if they had the first clue what they were talking about when discussing their own faith. You need to open your heart and humble yourself, your intellectual pride is blocking you from great Truths ... I really cant figure out if you believe this claptrap, or totally being iconic and taking the piss Thats your opinion, your entitled to it, just as I am mine, just wish that those of you could differ in opinion without the bitterness of spirit you exude towards the Saviour... Im not bitter towards him. Im am incredulous that people believe it. The Christian faith and especially Catholicism is a cruel religion. If you want to experience bitterness, try standing at the front of your church and tell them you're a bisexual tranny cruising the internet for casual sex. It'd be an interesting experiment in to how 'Christian' people can be. Christ came to save the sinner, His Gospel is for everybody,I can go into any Christian congregation and be treated with dignity and respect, for the Christian well knows he/she is a sinner themselves... I wondered when the bitter spirit motivating you would cry out Tranny.. Well unworthy as I am I just had to stand up for the greatest person that ever graced this planet with His presence... ... Can you answer his point ? We all love tvs on here and many of us atheists have been spat upon by believers in a saviour whilst trying to defend sexuality choices I am not a church goer, nor do I consider myself worthy of the title Christian, wether it be via the mouth of a Tranny or a Prophet matters not for Truth is Truth and somebody had to stand up for the good name of Jesus the Christ.... " I think you will find the only attribute a human requires to be a Christian is to think , a god called Jesus is the son of a god called Jehovah and that a humans salvation and gateway to another world is through the pathway of the Christ in accepting the father as the one true God According to your posts you fit the definition of Christian And on that basis I suggest according to the myth the father you think exists is an odious Shit unworthy of any humans worship The Christ character is merely a distraction pleading peace between humans (good)but only at the same time as adhering to bronze age draconian rules that some twisted humans wish the whole of humanity to follow xxx | |||
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