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"They didn't but compassion and when you feel it is often a direct result of life experience. We shouldn't judge people too harshly if they're less able to feel compassion in certain circumstances." True. It's so hard to watch though. | |||
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"I'm not sure but there certainly seems to be less and less of it about lately ... increasingly it feels very 'dog eat dog' and 'I'm alright Jack' these days. "It does. | |||
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"They didn't but compassion and when you feel it is often a direct result of life experience. We shouldn't judge people too harshly if they're less able to feel compassion in certain circumstances." I agree with this. People's personal experiences make them see things differently to how we feel they should see it. Some people are just a bit more hard hearted, rightly or wrongly. | |||
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"when people stopped giving it to them. or trained them not to have it. weirdly, having more can make you less compassionate too. it can make you more selfish by default because you don't fully understand what it's like to have nothing." That's an interesting point. | |||
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"They didn't but compassion and when you feel it is often a direct result of life experience. We shouldn't judge people too harshly if they're less able to feel compassion in certain circumstances. I agree with this. People's personal experiences make them see things differently to how we feel they should see it. Some people are just a bit more hard hearted, rightly or wrongly. " Yes. | |||
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it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things. | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things."True. | |||
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"Never stop showing it to yourself, as well as others. I see some people who are really hard on themselves, which I find upsetting. I dislike people being harsh and cruel towards each other, forgetting that they can let things go, forgiving and forgetting. Too many people seem to have to be trying to prove something all the time. It speaks volumes for their self-esteem, that they have to try to win some esteem from others, but never do in this vicious circle. I make plenty of mistakes but don't mean harm and appreciate compassion from others. " Very good point. | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True."this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there. | |||
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"Never stop showing it to yourself, as well as others. I see some people who are really hard on themselves, which I find upsetting. I dislike people being harsh and cruel towards each other, forgetting that they can let things go, forgiving and forgetting. Too many people seem to have to be trying to prove something all the time. It speaks volumes for their self-esteem, that they have to try to win some esteem from others, but never do in this vicious circle. I make plenty of mistakes but don't mean harm and appreciate compassion from others. " Ever the voice of reason  | |||
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"When did people stop having it? "I think it is linked to our individual tolerance and/ or understanding of others or a situation. | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there. "I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either). | |||
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"Shouldn't we looking in to ourselves first? Sometimes what goes around comes around" Not sure what the point you're making is exactly? | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either). "man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit. no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway). i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think. | |||
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"Aimed at me....? Don't take it personally "Haha don't worry about it I know I don't have empathy and it's something I'll need to deal with I actually appreciate the fact it's not turned into a personal attack | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either).
man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit.
no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway).
i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think. "Interesting too, as I'm not sure I respect the person holding the view I don't respect (this is different to simply having a different view to me, it's in situations and on topics that are core values to me that they oppose, I mean), I will respect their right to hold a different view but not the view or them necessarily. | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either).
man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit.
no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway).
i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think. "How strange I just had a debate with a lady that didn't end in any pathetic childish name calling and I actually felt mentally stimulated after it | |||
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"Shouldn't we looking in to ourselves first? Sometimes what goes around comes around Not sure what the point you're making is exactly? " is called karma | |||
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"When did people stop having it? "There will always be those without it!  | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either).
man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit.
no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway).
i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think.
How strange I just had a debate with a lady that didn't end in any pathetic childish name calling and I actually felt mentally stimulated after it"All I'll say it's better sometimes to listen and fully understand before offering a viewpoint... to many knee jerk reactions these days to many things | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either).
man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit.
no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway).
i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think.
Interesting too, as I'm not sure I respect the person holding the view I don't respect (this is different to simply having a different view to me, it's in situations and on topics that are core values to me that they oppose, I mean), I will respect their right to hold a different view but not the view or them necessarily. "i can respect a person just by being compassionate, and by understanding that they (probably) just are as complicated as myself. it doesn't necessarily mean i condone anything they have done, but it's easy for me not to hate them or even feel anything for them at all (i know that probably sounds like a paradox but it is not). empathising with someone means you understand them in a way relevant to yourself and your own experiences, so without a deeper explanation of anything you are basically empathising with yourself. easy enough to do unemotionally, and if you debate logically you also do not need to bring emotions into anything -which is how debating should be done btw. with a deeper explanation you are still understanding them on your own level but you also have a deeper understanding of that person now. again you are empathising with yourself and that person more. which is why i stopped debating with the guy i mentioned because he brought some personal circumstances into it and anything now would be us debating emotionally...and all emotions (or lack of them) are validating to that person themselves and you cannot debate such things. | |||
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"Shouldn't we looking in to ourselves first? Sometimes what goes around comes around Not sure what the point you're making is exactly? is called karma" So you only get compassion if you give compassion? I'm not sure I agree with that consensus. I know people who give compassion to those who have none for others. | |||
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There will always be those without it! "It does appear that way. | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either).
man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit.
no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway).
i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think.
How strange I just had a debate with a lady that didn't end in any pathetic childish name calling and I actually felt mentally stimulated after it"sorry i'm gonna shut up now. i did not name and shame lol.  | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either).
man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit.
no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway).
i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think.
Interesting too, as I'm not sure I respect the person holding the view I don't respect (this is different to simply having a different view to me, it's in situations and on topics that are core values to me that they oppose, I mean), I will respect their right to hold a different view but not the view or them necessarily.
i can respect a person just by being compassionate, and by understanding that they (probably) just are as complicated as myself. it doesn't necessarily mean i condone anything they have done, but it's easy for me not to hate them or even feel anything for them at all (i know that probably sounds like a paradox but it is not).
empathising with someone means you understand them in a way relevant to yourself and your own experiences, so without a deeper explanation of anything you are basically empathising with yourself. easy enough to do unemotionally, and if you debate logically you also do not need to bring emotions into anything -which is how debating should be done btw.
with a deeper explanation you are still understanding them on your own level but you also have a deeper understanding of that person now. again you are empathising with yourself and that person more. which is why i stopped debating with the guy i mentioned because he brought some personal circumstances into it and anything now would be us debating emotionally...and all emotions (or lack of them) are validating to that person themselves and you cannot debate such things."Well said | |||
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"When did people stop having it? "Is there a specific example? Something happening on the forums I'm missing? | |||
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"Never stop showing it to yourself, as well as others. I see some people who are really hard on themselves, which I find upsetting. I dislike people being harsh and cruel towards each other, forgetting that they can let things go, forgiving and forgetting. Too many people seem to have to be trying to prove something all the time. It speaks volumes for their self-esteem, that they have to try to win some esteem from others, but never do in this vicious circle. I make plenty of mistakes but don't mean harm and appreciate compassion from others. Ever the voice of reason " If we slowed down a bit and people had less pressure, I'd like to think that we'd stop and think more, before we debase and are harsh with those around us. | |||
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"self preservation is a very interesting thing also.
it's not that bad to see really.
people are who they are. they're a product of their experiences and surroundings and were not born like that, and often cannot help being the way they act. it takes understanding and knowledge to change a human mind, some people don't have those things.
True.
this place turns me into a man hater at times, depends what i've experienced. sometimes i hate the site itself even though it's done nothing.
i don't really hate men. got 3 sons i love who are turning into men, and there are some decent guys out there.
I have to say it doesn't turn me into a man hater, it does however allow me to witness viewpoints I find abhorrent. I respect people's right to different views, but that doesn't mean I have to respect some of the views (and those views are not gender specific either).
man hater is probably too strong of a word but i mean like i really don't want to interact with men on deeper level because every time i have the guy just leaves me feeling like shit.
no you don't have to respect anyone's views at all. i just had a nice debate with a guy and managed to respect him as a person and that matters the most (to me anyway).
i need to take that last bit away with me before i whinge about men again i think. thank you for making me think.
Interesting too, as I'm not sure I respect the person holding the view I don't respect (this is different to simply having a different view to me, it's in situations and on topics that are core values to me that they oppose, I mean), I will respect their right to hold a different view but not the view or them necessarily.
i can respect a person just by being compassionate, and by understanding that they (probably) just are as complicated as myself. it doesn't necessarily mean i condone anything they have done, but it's easy for me not to hate them or even feel anything for them at all (i know that probably sounds like a paradox but it is not).
empathising with someone means you understand them in a way relevant to yourself and your own experiences, so without a deeper explanation of anything you are basically empathising with yourself. easy enough to do unemotionally, and if you debate logically you also do not need to bring emotions into anything -which is how debating should be done btw.
with a deeper explanation you are still understanding them on your own level but you also have a deeper understanding of that person now. again you are empathising with yourself and that person more. which is why i stopped debating with the guy i mentioned because he brought some personal circumstances into it and anything now would be us debating emotionally...and all emotions (or lack of them) are validating to that person themselves and you cannot debate such things."Oh I totally agree, I'm playing semantics -- I'd have compassion and empathy. Not respect in terms of the definition of feeling a deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements!! Perhaps in terms of respect meaning due regard for their rights -- but I just wanted to make the distinction. | |||
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" If we slowed down a bit and people had less pressure, I'd like to think that we'd stop and think more, before we debase and are harsh with those around us. " | |||
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"Aimed at me....?" Oh my !! Still having a pop at you? I'm off to answer "what's my fave Easter Egg? I'm compassionate about answering proper questions | |||
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"Aimed at me....? Oh my !! Still having a pop at you? I'm off to answer "what's my fave Easter Egg? I'm compassionate about answering proper questions " | |||
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"Im very compassionate and empathetic but I think sometimes its how you were raised and the influences in your life if you are or arent. If you met my mum you would understand why im so compassionate, my mum can find good in even the worse person ever! " | |||
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"one thing i will mention, because i stuck up for the suicidal and think this is appropriate. there's the above reasons for not having empathy, all are valid. there's also reasons for not having empathy. and one of them is feelings cause yourself too much pain. not empathising with someone (or a situation) can be because it causes you pain. whether the pain is caused by something that is perceived as real or is actually real. i have had cPTSD and know this is a real thing. i think my cPTSD has actually given me a more logical thinking brain and kept emotions out of a lot of things actually. i'm not completely heartless, but can be if i have to to preserve myself." I think that's absolutely correct. I wonder if an inability to feel empathy because it causes too much pain results in an attack on those requiring it or providing it or whether in that circumstance would just mean an avoidance totally? Probably both, who knows how it manifests for someone... | |||
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"one thing i will mention, because i stuck up for the suicidal and think this is appropriate. there's the above reasons for not having empathy, all are valid. there's also reasons for not having empathy. and one of them is feelings cause yourself too much pain. not empathising with someone (or a situation) can be because it causes you pain. whether the pain is caused by something that is perceived as real or is actually real. i have had cPTSD and know this is a real thing. i think my cPTSD has actually given me a more logical thinking brain and kept emotions out of a lot of things actually. i'm not completely heartless, but can be if i have to to preserve myself." Oh I think we all can be like that. A lady of here mentioned a phrase which went something like this "be careful of the damaged people as they are the dangerous ones. As they know how to survive". Wise words as I count myself in that group too. | |||
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"I guess it depends if you follow the school of thought that there are different types of empathy. Emotional, or affective, empathy. And then cognitive empathy. " | |||
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"one thing i will mention, because i stuck up for the suicidal and think this is appropriate. there's the above reasons for not having empathy, all are valid. there's also reasons for not having empathy. and one of them is feelings cause yourself too much pain. not empathising with someone (or a situation) can be because it causes you pain. whether the pain is caused by something that is perceived as real or is actually real. i have had cPTSD and know this is a real thing. i think my cPTSD has actually given me a more logical thinking brain and kept emotions out of a lot of things actually. i'm not completely heartless, but can be if i have to to preserve myself. I think that's absolutely correct. I wonder if an inability to feel empathy because it causes too much pain results in an attack on those requiring it or providing it or whether in that circumstance would just mean an avoidance totally? Probably both, who knows how it manifests for someone..." yes, it could do as this validates yourself, your values, and continually ensures self preservation. and even if you do not speak it out loud you would still have these thoughts in your head. speaking them enables you to validate yourself to others. if they disagree respectfully it invalidates your argument somewhat but doesn't invalidate the person themselves or shame them, attacking the person for their own thoughts (which are basically themselves) is invalidating them for being who they are causing them shame, if they are able to be shamed. some are not able to be shamed. i was shamed a lot for when i was younger and have found ways around it and automatically trying to shame me wouldn't work coz i would have no interest in what that person was saying as they are being personal without knowing me as a person, this is contradictory in itself, illogical, and my brain just won't accept it. although i'm aware i do this myself also, it means nothing and is me 'venting' and getting something out of my system. people are complicated, there could be other reasons why someone might not like others getting empathy. for example in an actual situation that goes against your own beliefs, say you have kids you aren't gonna empathise easily with someone who killed them are you. say you valued life and had protected that then saw others wasting theirs, you aren't gonna respect that person easily probably. not sure what you mean by avoidance? | |||
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"one thing i will mention, because i stuck up for the suicidal and think this is appropriate. there's the above reasons for not having empathy, all are valid. there's also reasons for not having empathy. and one of them is feelings cause yourself too much pain. not empathising with someone (or a situation) can be because it causes you pain. whether the pain is caused by something that is perceived as real or is actually real. i have had cPTSD and know this is a real thing. i think my cPTSD has actually given me a more logical thinking brain and kept emotions out of a lot of things actually. i'm not completely heartless, but can be if i have to to preserve myself. Oh I think we all can be like that. A lady of here mentioned a phrase which went something like this "be careful of the damaged people as they are the dangerous ones. As they know how to survive". Wise words as I count myself in that group too." i've seen that on facebook, usually on the sociopath survivors support pages. not sure what it means exactly though, does it relate to that last line about being heartless? | |||
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"Do empathy and compassion equate to the same? " Compassion is not the same as empathy or altruism, though the concepts are related. While empathy refers more generally to our ability to take the perspective of and feel the emotions of another person, compassion is when those feelings and thoughts include the desire to help. from berkley edu. | |||
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"Do empathy and compassion equate to the same? Compassion is not the same as empathy or altruism, though the concepts are related. While empathy refers more generally to our ability to take the perspective of and feel the emotions of another person, compassion is when those feelings and thoughts include the desire to help. from berkley edu. "Ah yes, that was a good response. Basically, it means you can understand a person's problems, or the above and be proactive and try to help them out? | |||
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"Do empathy and compassion equate to the same? Compassion is not the same as empathy or altruism, though the concepts are related. While empathy refers more generally to our ability to take the perspective of and feel the emotions of another person, compassion is when those feelings and thoughts include the desire to help. from berkley edu. "What if you want to help people, but don't understand their problems? | |||
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"Do empathy and compassion equate to the same? Compassion is not the same as empathy or altruism, though the concepts are related. While empathy refers more generally to our ability to take the perspective of and feel the emotions of another person, compassion is when those feelings and thoughts include the desire to help. from berkley edu.
Ah yes, that was a good response.
Basically, it means you can understand a person's problems, or the above and be proactive and try to help them out? "yes. empathy means you can relate to that person, compassion means the same as sympathy and you care enough to do something. so you could be compassionate without even relating i suppose. | |||
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"Do empathy and compassion equate to the same? Compassion is not the same as empathy or altruism, though the concepts are related. While empathy refers more generally to our ability to take the perspective of and feel the emotions of another person, compassion is when those feelings and thoughts include the desire to help. from berkley edu.
What if you want to help people, but don't understand their problems? "you can do that. i think it'd be harder to do in some ways (and you might have to learn what coping mechanisms are needed to help them) but in others it might be helpful because you are not emotionally involved as much and can concentrate more on the other person and how they feel rather than relate to yourself and your own feelings.i'm not sure as it's not something i've really thought about but the above makes sense to me. someone else might have a better answer? | |||
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"Do empathy and compassion equate to the same? Compassion is not the same as empathy or altruism, though the concepts are related. While empathy refers more generally to our ability to take the perspective of and feel the emotions of another person, compassion is when those feelings and thoughts include the desire to help. from berkley edu.
What if you want to help people, but don't understand their problems?
you can do that. i think it'd be harder to do in some ways (and you might have to learn what coping mechanisms are needed to help them) but in others it might be helpful because you are not emotionally involved as much and can concentrate more on the other person and how they feel rather than relate to yourself and your own feelings.i'm not sure as it's not something i've really thought about but the above makes sense to me. someone else might have a better answer?"It's a great answer | |||
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"Do empathy and compassion equate to the same? Compassion is not the same as empathy or altruism, though the concepts are related. While empathy refers more generally to our ability to take the perspective of and feel the emotions of another person, compassion is when those feelings and thoughts include the desire to help. from berkley edu.
What if you want to help people, but don't understand their problems?
you can do that. i think it'd be harder to do in some ways (and you might have to learn what coping mechanisms are needed to help them) but in others it might be helpful because you are not emotionally involved as much and can concentrate more on the other person and how they feel rather than relate to yourself and your own feelings.i'm not sure as it's not something i've really thought about but the above makes sense to me. someone else might have a better answer?
It's a great answer "i could be wrong though, lol. empathy helps us to almost fully understand someone elses situation, because we have gone through similar. but every experience is subject to that person only and so is how they deal with it so you will never 100% be able to empathise anyway but you can come pretty close. just got 100% on my first forensics psych test here so feeling pretty confident right now.
does where you work offer training? they'd be able to assess this better than me i reckon. | |||
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"When did people stop having it? "Out of curiosity what gauge or base of comparison do you use to conclude people are less compassionate now? Is it an opinion borne? of a specific recent experience /observation or something else? | |||
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"When did people stop having it?
Out of curiosity what gauge or base of comparison do you use to conclude people are less compassionate now?
Is it an opinion borne? of a specific recent experience /observation or something else?"It was in dismay at another thread this evening. However I'm not further debating the specifics of that. | |||
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