FabSwingers.com forum: Dropping standards...?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is just a shag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*pulls up chair and gets popcorn out*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?"

No, never. If I don't click with someone mentally and/or I'm not physically attracted to them then I won't meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"*pulls up chair and gets popcorn out*

Giz some of your popcorn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I often wonder what the list of demands would be from men, should the ratio be the other way around.

Must be able to accommodate

Must not complain about any of my habits

Must suck to completion

Don't expect foreplay..........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think fucking standards are different to relationship ones. Not just physically either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I often wonder what the list of demands would be from men, should the ratio be the other way around.

Must be able to accommodate

Must not complain about any of my habits

Must suck to completion

Don't expect foreplay..........

Must take it up the arse (this needs it's own thread)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I keep my 3am beer goggle standards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think fucking standards are different to relationship ones. Not just physically either.

Aye, you don't look at or talk to the mantlepiece when yer poking the fire fs.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"It is just a shag

So that's a yes then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is just a shag

So that's a yes then

"
No, a shag is a shag.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just waiting for the know-it-all brigade to rock up...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope as my standards are set, they are what I feel comfortable with and stick with them. Age/looks etc are so subjective to me. I always try to see the beauty in people, so therefore I am attracted to a range of women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I often wonder what the list of demands would be from men, should the ratio be the other way around.

Must be able to accommodate

Must not complain about any of my habits

Must suck to completion

Don't expect foreplay..........

Must take it up the arse (this needs it's own thread)"

I know it does, but I didn't want to open one, and come across as anti-men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just waiting for the know-it-all brigade to rock up... "
Yes, you alwais get them lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?"

What's the point of this?

To make women feel they're only being messaged because men are desperate?

Or for men to feel crap because the women they find attractive aren't what society deems as being socially acceptable to fancy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?"

I would rather have a wank than sex with someone I didn't really fancy.

Plus I'm lucky I have met a few nice ladies who are willing to see me for repeat meets so have not had the need to.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?

What's the point of this?

To make women feel they're only being messaged because men are desperate?

Or for men to feel crap because the women they find attractive aren't what society deems as being socially acceptable to fancy?

This is a good point .

It does seem a bit of a pointless post unlesss it is to make us feel a bit crap when we get meets .

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Isn't every hole a goal or is that golf?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, I try and up my game.

Hopefully people with similar interests, ideas and mindset will naturally gravitate towards my personality and I to them, as time goes on and more conversation develops.

If we don't 'click', it's not to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?"

What do you think OP as you didn't answer your own question ?

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By *eachPreacherMan
over a year ago

Kent/London

I have lowered my standards for a few meets and always ended up with a lackluster experience.

I'm normally pretty easy but I've still said no to more meets than I've said yes to.

There are some real weirdo's on here that even I won't go near

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is anyone going to admit to "lowering their standards"?

Posts like this make me feel like not meeting any more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is anyone going to admit to "lowering their standards"?

Posts like this make me feel like not meeting any more

^ yes they will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I often wonder what the list of demands would be from men, should the ratio be the other way around.

Must be able to accommodate

Must not complain about any of my habits

Must suck to completion

Don't expect foreplay..........

Hahah

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby

No I will not and never have lowered my standards. I've not had many meets in the time I've been on here but I'd sooner that than anything else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like anyone is going to admit to it.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?

What's the point of this?

To make women feel they're only being messaged because men are desperate?

Or for men to feel crap because the women they find attractive aren't what society deems as being socially acceptable to fancy?

Yep I agree. I hate it when people start talking about lowering of standards,I don't even know what it really mean's as far as men are concerned. If someone has sex with me does it mean men are lowering their standards?! Don't answer that...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?

What's the point of this? "

It's to establish if the sites environment effects what a chap outside of this environment would choose.

To make women feel they're only being messaged because men are desperate?

no - I'm interested in the sites artificial ecosystem and it's balance and the effect on mens and women's perception of each other

Or for men to feel crap because the women they find attractive aren't what society deems as being socially acceptable to fancy?

" no - I want to know if that social convention is magnified here due to the conditions.

Realistically we are none of us perfect... that said some verifications are breaching the trade descriptions act... primarily imo... because of the sites environment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Like anyone is going to admit to it."

Exactly

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

So lowering your standards mean's someone you don't find attractive?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hell no. Im a quality over quantity guy... even if I do have a fair few verifications

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure how is possible to have sex with someone you don't fancy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely not, if anything it's strengthened my resolve not to resort to the lowest common denominator.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?

What's the point of this?

It's to establish if the sites environment effects what a chap outside of this environment would choose.

To make women feel they're only being messaged because men are desperate?

no - I'm interested in the sites artificial ecosystem and it's balance and the effect on mens and women's perception of each other

Or for men to feel crap because the women they find attractive aren't what society deems as being socially acceptable to fancy?

no - I want to know if that social convention is magnified here due to the conditions.

Realistically we are none of us perfect... that said some verifications are breaching the trade descriptions act... primarily imo... because of the sites environment.

"Some verifications are breaching the trades description act" What does that mean? Someone they've found attractive, you think is a minger?

You are coming across as a complete arse at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So lowering your standards mean's someone you don't find attractive?!"

Absolutely not.

Attraction isn't black and white is it?

There's a loooooad of grey.

I wanna know how the environment effects the guys greyscale.

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston

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This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have noticed though that people who start these sort of threads never show much of themselves.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So lowering your standards mean's someone you don't find attractive?!

Absolutely not.

Attraction isn't black and white is it?

There's a loooooad of grey.

I wanna know how the environment effects the guys greyscale.

Well I haven't a clue because you're not saying,what exactly is dropping standard's?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well don't contribute, its a valid question. It's rationally proposed.

Your actually reduced to personal insults which says a lot.

I responded to your individual points.

Understand "I'm offended" is not the same as it's "offensive"...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, what would dropping your standards entail?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So lowering your standards mean's someone you don't find attractive?!

Absolutely not.

Attraction isn't black and white is it?

There's a loooooad of grey.

I wanna know how the environment effects the guys greyscale.

Well I haven't a clue because you're not saying,what exactly is dropping standard's?!"

Example...

You like black...

Due to:

ratio of m to F

Quantity of mail

Etc etc

Black is rarely if ever achieved.

So what shade of grey is acceptable.

Get it...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is just a shag

Yes you are.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So lowering your standards mean's someone you don't find attractive?!

Absolutely not.

Attraction isn't black and white is it?

There's a loooooad of grey.

I wanna know how the environment effects the guys greyscale.

Well I haven't a clue because you're not saying,what exactly is dropping standard's?!

Example...

You like black...

Due to:

ratio of m to F

Quantity of mail

Etc etc

Black is rarely if ever achieved.

So what shade of grey is acceptable.

Get it...?"

That's not a drop in standard's though that's a change in preference. If I went to McDonald's and asked for a banana milkshake and they didn't have that flavour I'd chose vanilla instead. It's not dropping my standard's.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Oh I give up...

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"OP, what would dropping your standards entail? "

Having sex with someone grey rather than black

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

•+• Access Denied •+•

i've lowered mine plenty of times, don't see why it's only men who do it.

so what if there's loads of men, not like any of them are quality.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"Is anyone going to admit to "lowering their standards"?

Posts like this make me feel like not meeting any more

Shag already has

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is anyone going to admit to "lowering their standards"?

Posts like this make me feel like not meeting any more

Shag already has

But Shag is an open book, bless him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. I still have preferences that I will not deviate from just to get a random shag.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So lowering your standards mean's someone you don't find attractive?!

Absolutely not.

Attraction isn't black and white is it?

There's a loooooad of grey.

I wanna know how the environment effects the guys greyscale.

Well I haven't a clue because you're not saying,what exactly is dropping standard's?!

Example...

You like black...

Due to:

ratio of m to F

Quantity of mail

Etc etc

Black is rarely if ever achieved.

So what shade of grey is acceptable.

Get it...?

Yes it is go to another fast food outlet to get what you want. Or make do with something you didn't want... therefore lowering your standards.

Your getting the Olympic gold for missing the point

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Going ugly early" is nothing new. And not restricted to swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No even the munters think they have the golden ticket hahah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No even the munters think they have the golden ticket hahah"

Some of us do

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

""Going ugly early" is nothing new. And not restricted to swinging. "

I'm not saying it is... am saying the environment exacerbates, accelerates and contorts what would be a regular choice.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

""Going ugly early" is nothing new. And not restricted to swinging.

I'm not saying it is... am saying the environment exacerbates, accelerates and contorts what would be a regular choice.

I don't think that fact has ever been contested here. The winner is the "munter" who's got to fuck a desperate Adonis....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Going ugly early" is nothing new. And not restricted to swinging.

I'm not saying it is... am saying the environment exacerbates, accelerates and contorts what would be a regular choice.

I don't think that fact has ever been contested here. The winner is the "munter" who's got to fuck a desperate Adonis...."

Winner winner chicken dinner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hoping some ladies are willing to drop their standards or I fear I'll be twiddling nothing but my thumbs

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So lowering your standards mean's someone you don't find attractive?!

Absolutely not.

Attraction isn't black and white is it?

There's a loooooad of grey.

I wanna know how the environment effects the guys greyscale.

Well I haven't a clue because you're not saying,what exactly is dropping standard's?!

Example...

You like black...

Due to:

ratio of m to F

Quantity of mail

Etc etc

Black is rarely if ever achieved.

So what shade of grey is acceptable.

Get it...?

Yes it is go to another fast food outlet to get what you want. Or make do with something you didn't want... therefore lowering your standards.

Your getting the Olympic gold for missing the point

...because you're not explaining yourself very well! Just spit it out exactly what you mean

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"OP, what would dropping your standards entail? "

I don't think this question was answered either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!"

And I miss my kidney !

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!

And I miss my kidney ! "

I'll get you another one,not mine though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!

And I miss my kidney !

I'll get you another one,not mine though

You better ! While we are at it, I also need a new car and two light bulbs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Going ugly early" is nothing new. And not restricted to swinging.

I'm not saying it is... am saying the environment exacerbates, accelerates and contorts what would be a regular choice.

I don't think that fact has ever been contested here. The winner is the "munter" who's got to fuck a desperate Adonis...."

I am eternally grateful to those desperate men, as a munter I'm doing splendidly

#winning#smugaftersexface

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!

And I miss my kidney !

I'll get you another one,not mine though

You better ! While we are at it, I also need a new car and two light bulbs "

I'm still considering whether to lower my standards for you Beardy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!

And I miss my kidney !

I'll get you another one,not mine though

You better ! While we are at it, I also need a new car and two light bulbs

I'm still considering whether to lower my standards for you Beardy. "

Please do, I desperately need to get laid and empty my testicles inside a womb

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!

And I miss my kidney !

I'll get you another one,not mine though

You better ! While we are at it, I also need a new car and two light bulbs "

Why are men never happy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. I'm pretty happy sticking to what makes me happy. After all its after a meet that's just as important?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I did it once but ended up in a bathtub full of ice and one of my kindney was missing !

Let me tell you that I will never again lower my stantards and trust a woman who drives a kia ceed, listen to Celine Dion while cooking and have two gold front teeth!

Having say that she had lovely kneecaps and beautiful elbows.

I've missed you!

And I miss my kidney !

I'll get you another one,not mine though

You better ! While we are at it, I also need a new car and two light bulbs

Why are men never happy!

Im only happy when it rains

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?"

No. Anything good is worth the wait. Fortunately, being bi means you never have to wait too long.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like anyone is going to admit to it."
That is right, noone will do it lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah I'm fussy, it's paid off as I've done sexy stuff with some lovely women over the years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is just a shag

Yes you are."
lol good one.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong. "

Ok maybe you'll answer my question. When you say 'anything' what exactly is anything? Op said it's nothing to do with attraction so what is lowering of standard's for you. Are you 'anything,am I,who is on this thread?!

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

I din't think men are fussy in real life either.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong.

For me, whenever I see someone say they lower their standards I do think they mean they will fuck someone they don't find attractive just to get their rocks off.

My question was more to illustrate the rather sexist nature of the OP.

I have to say, reading through the thread and some of the OP's replies I think the subject is confused and ill thought out.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong.

For me, whenever I see someone say they lower their standards I do think they mean they will fuck someone they don't find attractive just to get their rocks off.

My question was more to illustrate the rather sexist nature of the OP.

I have to say, reading through the thread and some of the OP's replies I think the subject is confused and ill thought out. "

Thankyou Evie,I agree!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So the question was:

'Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?'

My god the offence that such a question seems to have caused! Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who doesn't take personal offence to these type of threads!

Mrs

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So the question was:

'Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?'

My god the offence that such a question seems to have caused! Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who doesn't take personal offence to these type of threads!

Mrs "

I 'personally' didn't take offence I just want to know what he mean's and he's not saying apart from a load of waffle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meh. ..why would I give a fuck if a man has to lower his standards to meet me. I'm not the loser in that situation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So the question was:

'Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?'

My god the offence that such a question seems to have caused! Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who doesn't take personal offence to these type of threads!

Mrs

I 'personally' didn't take offence I just want to know what he mean's and he's not saying apart from a load of waffle. "

I thought it was a straightforward question

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So the question was:

'Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?'

My god the offence that such a question seems to have caused! Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who doesn't take personal offence to these type of threads!

Mrs

I 'personally' didn't take offence I just want to know what he mean's and he's not saying apart from a load of waffle.

I thought it was a straightforward question"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guys who can be fussy and still get meets will be and those who can't won't.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My question was more to illustrate the rather sexist nature of the OP.

I have to say, reading through the thread and some of the OP's replies I think the subject is confused and ill thought out. "

So despite listing the formula that leads to a question and replying to people who have been aggressive and personally offensive, in a calm and rational manor... It's sexist and I'll thought out.

So currently there are 43 post live with ladies complaining for where quantity of mail.

Separately there are complainants citing their hatred of copy paste and fancy a fuck now mail.

One lady and her friend have over 1100 messages.

So my question asks of those lengthy threads and contributors are those 1100 men or are those 43 posts derived from what men are doing a cause of the sites ecosystem or environment. I'd argue they are.

My question poses then... at a ration of 18:1 how is that possible without certain esteemed gentlemen lowering a standard they would have in their normal social circles just to chuck their muck.

I would argue they (A majority) do.

I think that's a reasonable thought pattern.

I don't think it's I'll thought out it's just evident you don't like the line of the question so you attack using egregious terms - which I have not returned.

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way. "

You have a wonderful way with words

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

"So the M to F ratio has been discussed.

The quantity of mail women get discussed.

So assuming ladies are saturated with offers and opportunities...

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?"

How desperate do you have to be to have sex ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong.

For me, whenever I see someone say they lower their standards I do think they mean they will fuck someone they don't find attractive just to get their rocks off.

My question was more to illustrate the rather sexist nature of the OP.

I have to say, reading through the thread and some of the OP's replies I think the subject is confused and ill thought out.

Thankyou Evie,I agree!"

Are you 8...?

Your playground milkshake analogy was infantile so your reduced to this.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"OP, what would dropping your standards entail?

I don't think this question was answered either! "

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over a year ago

Absolutely not, I don't mean to sound arrogant but I don't struggle to meet women in the real world so why should I.

If we're not on the same level regarding opinion towards each other and expectations then I'd rather not anyway.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"OP, what would dropping your standards entail?

I don't think this question was answered either!

Nearly 9...

Why do you keep ignoring this question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

You have a wonderful way with words

Well it's true I get all kinda straight guys asking for oral or wanting to fuck me, not your 'fab straight curious wanna suck on cock' guys

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way. "

100% agree and the initial part I have suggested is a lowering of standards...

However I fear I will be crucified prior to completing my point by the willfully ignorant spouting vitriolical terms.

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over a year ago

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

You have a wonderful way with words

Well it's true I get all kinda straight guys asking for oral or wanting to fuck me, not your 'fab straight curious wanna suck on cock' guys "

My local updates would seem to agree with you here

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong.

For me, whenever I see someone say they lower their standards I do think they mean they will fuck someone they don't find attractive just to get their rocks off.

My question was more to illustrate the rather sexist nature of the OP.

I have to say, reading through the thread and some of the OP's replies I think the subject is confused and ill thought out.

Thankyou Evie,I agree!

Are you 8...?

Your playground milkshake analogy was infantile so your reduced to this."

How was it any different to your black/grey one?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

100% agree and the initial part I have suggested is a lowering of standards...

However I fear I will be crucified prior to completing my point by the willfully ignorant spouting vitriolical terms.

Well for heaven's sake spit your point out I'm losing the will to live

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?"

With that theory your assuming I have standards. Once I removed a door handle and humped the hole that was there.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

100% agree and the initial part I have suggested is a lowering of standards...

However I fear I will be crucified prior to completing my point by the willfully ignorant spouting vitriolical terms.

But that's what people were saying you were implying and you said it wasn't. It was nothing to do with attraction, just Fucking a different type of person.

You are so desperately trying to be some sort of pseudo intellectual you have managed to confuse yourself lol

All you needed to say is 'lads, is any hole a goal on here for you?'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I ask this of the gentlemen...

Gents, do you find you lower what you consider to be your standards to facilitate a meet?

With that theory your assuming I have standards. Once I removed a door handle and humped the hole that was there.

Chortle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

You have a wonderful way with words

Well it's true I get all kinda straight guys asking for oral or wanting to fuck me, not your 'fab straight curious wanna suck on cock' guys

My local updates would seem to agree with you here

Wonder how many get all self loathing after

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I don't see the point in going ugly early on fab. If your desperate have a wank. If you're at a club and its late and the creature from the black lagoon offers you a hand job, go with it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong. "

I think it's quite a fair question to be aimed specifically at men in this instance.

I'm struggling with how to word this without sounding like an arse but there are a fair proportion (IMO) of people on here of both sexes who based on the physicality defined by the photos that they choose to share probably don't have a lot of luck in real life.

The difference between that and gender on here is that a man will not get anywhere and either become bitter or leave whilst, in lots of cases (as can be seen with a quick search) the woman will still receive lots of attention and her demands will increase.. words like 'picky' and 'apply' will appear along with higher expectations upon appearance for their prospective partners.

I'm not going to give any details.. but I know of a couple of women who have stepped back from this lifestyle and towards normal dating and can't for the life of them understand? why their messages to men aren't received in the same way.

I think that says that men probably do drop their standards.. or join without any in the first place really, but i still think it's a fair question to be aimed just at men.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Men complain about not getting meets, then insult women on here that do meet - same old double standard around sex.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I don't see the point in going ugly early on fab. If your desperate have a wank. If you're at a club and its late and the creature from the black lagoon offers you a hand job, go with it!

Ahhhh my favourite hunting hour!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OP, what would dropping your standards entail?

Nearly 9...

Why do you keep ignoring this question?"

It's been answered above. Your not getting it.

Dropping standards - simplistic terms.

You aim for someone you consider a 10. After 500 mesaages you get one you consider a 3. What constitutes a 10 or 3 is subjective to the individual.

Irrespective, this is still a drop in standards.

That's a dropping of standards. I do not see what's so hard to see a out that.

Also what I refer to above is heightened or exacerbated by the sites environment.

So again... to me it's a totally reasonable question and slightly better than the bullshit - post if you like breathing options in the forum.

Question answered my little nettle x

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I read an article that said horny men consider almost any female a potential partner while horny women showed a far greater interest towards the most attractive mates

No idea if it's bulls..t but hey it might ad to the discussion

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

100% agree and the initial part I have suggested is a lowering of standards...

However I fear I will be crucified prior to completing my point by the willfully ignorant spouting vitriolical terms.

But that's what people were saying you were implying and you said it wasn't. It was nothing to do with attraction, just Fucking a different type of person.

You are so desperately trying to be some sort of pseudo intellectual you have managed to confuse yourself lol

All you needed to say is 'lads, is any hole a goal on here for you?' "

Yeah I give up now he's chosing not to answer what it means to him,so I can only presume he doesn't know or doesn't want to admit it's down to attraction.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong.

I think it's quite a fair question to be aimed specifically at men in this instance.

I think that says that men probably do drop their standards.. or join without any in the first place really, but i still think it's a fair question to be aimed just at men. "

Believe you me there are a fair few men who have overly inflated opinions of their own attractiveness on here..... It's not just the women lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the point in going ugly early on fab. If your desperate have a wank. If you're at a club and its late and the creature from the black lagoon offers you a hand job, go with it!

How about the creature from the black leather lagoon?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Men complain about not getting meets, then insult women on here that do meet - same old double standard around sex.

'Some' men.

. But the negativity of some people's views and voices are the ones that stand out and take centre stage in life. Sad but true.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

100% agree and the initial part I have suggested is a lowering of standards...

However I fear I will be crucified prior to completing my point by the willfully ignorant spouting vitriolical terms.

But that's what people were saying you were implying and you said it wasn't. It was nothing to do with attraction, just Fucking a different type of person.

You are so desperately trying to be some sort of pseudo intellectual you have managed to confuse yourself lol

All you needed to say is 'lads, is any hole a goal on here for you?'

Yeah I give up now he's chosing not to answer what it means to him,so I can only presume he doesn't know or doesn't want to admit it's down to attraction."

Ignore that...^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nah, i just have not got any standards, lol.

I am the sort that "goes ugly early" at a nightclub just so i pull.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never waivered on my desires (or standards if you prefer); and before you say I can't answer because I'm lacking a Y chromosome, I'm meeting women so fishing in a similar pool to the OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dropping standards - simplistic terms.

You aim for someone you consider a 10. After 500 mesaages you get one you consider a 3. What constitutes a 10 or 3 is subjective to the individual.

Irrespective, this is still a drop in standards.

That's a dropping of standards.

That's interesting, if a guy messages me first there's more chance he finds me attractive than me messaging the guy and him thinking hmm well I'm not getting anywhere so you'll do!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So I think guys will discreetly meet women on here that they would never date or introduce to their mates.

They also cross the gender line in a kinda gay for the stay prison desperate kinda way.

100% agree and the initial part I have suggested is a lowering of standards...

However I fear I will be crucified prior to completing my point by the willfully ignorant spouting vitriolical terms.

But that's what people were saying you were implying and you said it wasn't. It was nothing to do with attraction, just Fucking a different type of person.

You are so desperately trying to be some sort of pseudo intellectual you have managed to confuse yourself lol

All you needed to say is 'lads, is any hole a goal on here for you?' "

No offence am born and bread on a council estate in Liverpool. Intellectual am not.

Am confused about nothing I merely posed a question that you saw fit to attack and disect to nuance your perspective.

I clearly set the parameters around why the question was being posed. It's not a simple as any holes a goal that polarises it... like I said there's a lot of grey.

Please don't attack me again it's not fair I've only asked a question.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dropping standards - simplistic terms.

You aim for someone you consider a 10. After 500 mesaages you get one you consider a 3. What constitutes a 10 or 3 is subjective to the individual.

Irrespective, this is still a drop in standards.

That's a dropping of standards.

That's interesting, if a guy messages me first there's more chance he finds me attractive than me messaging the guy and him thinking hmm well I'm not getting anywhere so you'll do! "

Cool response thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why is the question only posed to the men of the site?

Just because there are lots of guys to choose from doesn't mean the ones women like are readily available. Perhaps some women just fancy a fuck and will fuck anything when the urge is strong.

I think it's quite a fair question to be aimed specifically at men in this instance.

I think that says that men probably do drop their standards.. or join without any in the first place really, but i still think it's a fair question to be aimed just at men.

Believe you me there are a fair few men who have overly inflated opinions of their own attractiveness on here..... It's not just the women lol "

I'm sure you're right to be fair.. i guess ratios may make it seem more skewed too.. that and the fact i don't look at blokes lol

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"OP, what would dropping your standards entail?

Nearly 9...

Why do you keep ignoring this question?

It's been answered above. Your not getting it.

Dropping standards - simplistic terms.

You aim for someone you consider a 10. After 500 mesaages you get one you consider a 3. What constitutes a 10 or 3 is subjective to the individual.

Irrespective, this is still a drop in standards.

That's a dropping of standards. I do not see what's so hard to see a out that.

Also what I refer to above is heightened or exacerbated by the sites environment.

So again... to me it's a totally reasonable question and slightly better than the bullshit - post if you like breathing options in the forum.

Question answered my little nettle x"

Not really no. For YOU what does it mean? Cut the waffle just spit it out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't lower my standards at all. As I can go out and find a good looking women to have fun with off this site. Why I am here is to find a like minded female to have adventures, open fun and someone to attend clubs with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP, what would dropping your standards entail?

Nearly 9...

Why do you keep ignoring this question?

It's been answered above. Your not getting it.

Dropping standards - simplistic terms.

You aim for someone you consider a 10. After 500 mesaages you get one you consider a 3. What constitutes a 10 or 3 is subjective to the individual.

Irrespective, this is still a drop in standards.

That's a dropping of standards. I do not see what's so hard to see a out that.

Also what I refer to above is heightened or exacerbated by the sites environment.

So again... to me it's a totally reasonable question and slightly better than the bullshit - post if you like breathing options in the forum.

Question answered my little nettle x

Not really no. For YOU what does it mean? Cut the waffle just spit it out."