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By *ouple in Lancashire OP Couple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

..if it transpires that(and its just an allegation at present) the 'spook' working for the NOTW was indeed deleting the voice mail messages from her phone in order to have new ones added which might be 'of interest' to said employer.

and in all likelihood with the poor girl probably murdered as this occured,just how fucking low has 'journalism' gotten for some in that industry ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the whole case has been dealt with badly by the media i mean and what they did to that poor girls dad, just glad that they got the guy

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By *ouple in Lancashire OP Couple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

it sickens me that someone could do such a thing, knowing that her parents would surely think she may be deleting them herself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How did a journo get hold of her phone to be deleting messages from it?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"How did a journo get hold of her phone to be deleting messages from it?"

I was thinking that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything to do with that f*****g paper (not worth what it's printed on) is usually invasive or utter bullshit.

In 2002 they managed to reach levels lower than hell would entertain the f*****g w******s.

Anyone with the slightest bit of humanity would not bring themselves to hack the voicemail of a missing girl and go as far as deleting messages from the poor girls frantic family so they could free-up space for more messages.

Those journalists were giving false hope to poor family and friends because they thought she was listening to and deleting messages.... meaning she was alive to do it

....I cried when I heard what those idiots had done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How did a journo get hold of her phone to be deleting messages from it?"

They were hacking her voicemail. They used the preset pin code of network to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'd have thought that the police would have locked down her accounts/mobiles ect. That should be a prerequisite in a missing person's case, one would think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How did a journo get hold of her phone to be deleting messages from it?"

Some 'friend' of hers will have sold them her mobile number. Most people keep the factory setting for their voicemail access or change it to one dead easy to guess.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

"You'd have thought that the police would have locked down her accounts/mobiles ect. That should be a prerequisite in a missing person's case, one would think."

In the news tonight, it was stated that the Police had actually topped up the credit on her phone, in the hope that if she was still alive, she might be able to use the phone to summon help.

It was just that this scum bag of a journalist - and I use that description loosely - hacked into her phone. What the hell did he think he was doing?

Probably thought it was high powered journalism. Best thing for him is to give himself up, but he's probably too up his own a*** to even have the guts to do that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only one word. Heartbreaking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You'd have thought that the police would have locked down her accounts/mobiles ect. That should be a prerequisite in a missing person's case, one would think."

I'm sure it is now. 9 years ago journalists were filling their boots hence the hacking scandals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe someone should set up a Facebook profile boycott news of the world a wonder how many ppl add the names to it this

absolutely fucking despicable.

* crEepS rOunD grAveYaRd * -|-

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You'd have thought that the police would have locked down her accounts/mobiles ect. That should be a prerequisite in a missing person's case, one would think.

In the news tonight, it was stated that the Police had actually topped up the credit on her phone, in the hope that if she was still alive, she might be able to use the phone to summon help.

It was just that this scum bag of a journalist - and I use that description loosely - hacked into her phone. What the hell did he think he was doing?

Probably thought it was high powered journalism. Best thing for him is to give himself up, but he's probably too up his own a*** to even have the guts to do that!"

The only thing I'd would say to this type would be C U Next Tuesday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe someone should set up a Facebook profile boycott news of the world a wonder how many ppl add the names to it this

absolutely fucking despicable.

* crEepS rOunD grAveYaRd * -|-"

You'd have no problem getting people to sign up for this but whether they'd actually boycott the NotW would be a different matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boycott NOTW?..... what would people wipe their arses with?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe someone should set up a Facebook profile boycott news of the world a wonder how many ppl add the names to it this

absolutely fucking despicable.

* crEepS rOunD grAveYaRd * -|-

You'd have no problem getting people to sign up for this but whether they'd actually boycott the NotW would be a different matter."

I actually see the reasoning sadly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boycott NOTW?..... what would people wipe their arses with?"

Journalists?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why can't people just let the girl rest in peace.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boycott NOTW?..... what would people wipe their arses with?

Journalists?

No, these people have no right to call themselves journalists. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

totally shocking from this paper,

dont really read it much now since the hacking started.

hope they get shut down

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

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NOTW!! Unfortunately they give the populace the journalism they demand! Fill a paper with scandal and filth and it will sell to the sort of people who love that stuff! The same people who are up in arms about this phone hacking scandle, but will still go out on Sunday and buy it!

Lowest common denominator...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However did this and was involved in the hacking should be charged with interfering in a criminal case. Sadly it just another example of how the Murdoch empire believes it's self to above the law. I won't buy the Sun, Times or get Sky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly it just another example of how the Murdoch empire believes it's self to above the law. I won't buy the Sun, Times or get Sky"

Never buy the Sun, never buy the Times and have just cancelled Sky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I knew that a lot of journalists were complete scum (apologies to the genuine ones that usually work for local papers and pub mags)

But if this turns out to be true then the powers that be need to introduce powerful laws against it happening again and against untrue and inflated reporting of ALL types

I cannot believe sometimes who we have to share this beautiful world with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why they do it , i dont understand it what were they hoping to achieve ? has that poor family no been through enough ? i hate the media not just the red top the full lot they twist everything thats been said had personal dealings with that shower many a year ago , so maybe i a bit biased but ffs leave ppl alone that are having to go through that , its hard enough without those invasive tosspots prying and making life harder , id lock the sob up ! sorry thats a bloody sorepoint for me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched this on the news last night in utter disbelief and disgust. I hope the so called journalist is prosecuted for perverting the course of justice. People at the newspaper must have known he was doing it. it's appalling what he must have put their family through thinking that she was still alive by deleting her messages. Ms

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I hope that for a lot of people this is finally a step too far....

in effect this is tampering with evidence, and also obstructing the course of justice....

the then editor of the NOTW was Rebekah Wade (now Brooks).... she is now the chief exec for News International....

she will not budge....

I hope the backlash is huge.. but i fear they were probably be shunted in the redtops as they were probably doing it as well...

nice to see the guardian and the telegraph really going after them today!!!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"I hope that for a lot of people this is finally a step too far....

in effect this is tampering with evidence, and also obstructing the course of justice....

the then editor of the NOTW was Rebekah Wade (now Brooks).... she is now the chief exec for News International....

she will not budge....

I hope the backlash is huge.. but i fear they were probably be shunted in the redtops as they were probably doing it as well...

nice to see the guardian and the telegraph really going after them today!!!"

I do have to agree with you Fabio, but I fear that despite the disgust, "normal" Red Top Readers will revert to old habits! They want their sleaze and they want to be able to ridicule people like swingers when they go into work on Monday! Can you imagine the conversation?

"Did you see the news about what the News of the Screws did to that poor family? That was disgusting and made me feel sick! But did you see what they printed about ******** and the pictures we a bit raunchy!"

That, sadly is the way of people! They have the type of press that they demand! No point in blaming Murdoch, he is the manifestation of what the purchasers want!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I think it may well be their downfall. After the Hillsborough reporting many years ago, the Sun and the NOTW were boycotted by a lot of people, their sales suffered terribly.

Let people vote with stopping buying these papers and maybe ( pigs may fly probably ) it will make anyone else doing it/ considering doing it ,to think again.

As for the poor parents, god knows what they must be feeling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hit them where it hurts,

don't buy the papers and don't watch their telly.

And as for needing laws to stop this sort of thing, surely anyone with any morals just wouldn't do anything so low to begin with.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I don't buy newspapers and certainly don't buy tabloids and the Hello/OK type mags.

It always takes something like the MIllie case to get a big reaction.... but we all know they stoop in the gutter after celebs... raiding bins, zoom lens you could take photos of Penzance with from Plymouth, invasion of privacy is the norm with the gutter press. Did the phone tapping of celebs get such a horrified reaction? Did the phone tapping of PM's bring about uproar from society at larger... something which could impact on national security?

If the guy did what they say he did he needs locking up along with whoever paid him for what he got from it... but sadly I am not surprised it happened.

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By *almh5Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Glen Mulclaire was jailed in 2006 for phone hacking, I wonder whyhe didnt mention it then?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Glen Mulclaire was jailed in 2006 for phone hacking, I wonder whyhe didnt mention it then?"

well there has been an investigation by the NOTW and they said they didn't turn up anything....

and there has been an investigation by the press complaints council (PCC) and they said they didn't turn up anything.....

and there has been an investigation by surrey police and they didn't turn up anything....

so it was only the investigation by the Met police that seems to have brought this up... which makes you wonder what the other's were looking for or had brought up......

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

i wont buy a Murdoch paper or subscribe to sky.However many clearly like what he produces.This will be a 7 day wonder and i doubt it will affect business.

i do hope their can be a criminal prosecution for obstructing the police though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A|nd now the police investigating this are talking to the parents of the two girls from Soham.

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

It's just been on the radio, Ford have pulled their advertising from the paper

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"It's just been on the radio, Ford have pulled their advertising from the paper"

Now that would hurt them,perhaps those who want to enact change should be contacting their advertisers,thats where they really make their money.

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

Yes like the big 4 supermarkets

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Yes like the big 4 supermarkets"

well apparently tesco's, virgin media and easyjet are all "re_iewing the situation" with regards to advertising..

but notice that it is only the NOTW that is being boycotted rather than the whole of news international.. what means any advertising will just be moved to other papers in the portfolio...

its only going to get worse in the next 24 hrs.. especially if they do make the Soham link, and the emergency debate in parliament tomorrow on phone hacking....

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"Glen Mulclaire was jailed in 2006 for phone hacking, I wonder whyhe didnt mention it then?"

Could it be because News International were paying his legal bills and told him to shut up and he'd be looked after? See Greenslade's column in today's Grauniad...

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"Glen Mulclaire was jailed in 2006 for phone hacking, I wonder whyhe didnt mention it then?

well there has been an investigation by the NOTW and they said they didn't turn up anything....

and there has been an investigation by the press complaints council (PCC) and they said they didn't turn up anything.....

and there has been an investigation by surrey police and they didn't turn up anything....

so it was only the investigation by the Met police that seems to have brought this up... which makes you wonder what the other's were looking for or had brought up...... "

Yeah, I'm surprised the NOTW investigation didn't reveal that the NOTW had been up to this too...

Surrey Police ballsed up the original investigation into the Dowler killing too.

The PCC investigation amounted to the PCC phoning up the NOTW and asking if they'd been naughty.

And the Met sat on the evidence until politicians forced them to reopen the case...

Only a public inquiry will do...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmm... so Ford, in an altruistic display of public concern pull their ads from NOTW - and they're now on everyone's lips.

Clever Ford Motor Co.

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By *ixplayMan
over a year ago

tamworth & Edinburgh

N O T W should be totaly boycoted, its a rag mag anyway & not worth the paper its written on before this but this really is as low as it can get & more allagations about hacking those pour soham girls parents phones.

words cant explain how i & many others feel about this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why?

Journos are known to be the scum of the earth anyway so why is anyone in the least bit surprised. How do you think these people obtain 'scoops' that nobody else knew about.

If people weren't so enthralled by the seedy sex lives of the rich and famous these types of 'newspapers' would get half the readership they currently enjoy. It's their readers that feed the frenzy.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"N O T W should be totaly boycoted, its a rag mag anyway & not worth the paper its written on before this but this really is as low as it can get & more allagations about hacking those pour soham girls parents phones.

words cant explain how i & many others feel about this "

You do rag mags an injustice. The funny ones produced by college students. Well they used to be funny in pre PC days.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Why?

Journos are known to be the scum of the earth anyway so why is anyone in the least bit surprised. How do you think these people obtain 'scoops' that nobody else knew about.

If people weren't so enthralled by the seedy sex lives of the rich and famous these types of 'newspapers' would get half the readership they currently enjoy. It's their readers that feed the frenzy."

That's right Wishy! Sadly the great British public get the tabloids they deserve!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I just find it interesting that a lot of the broadsheets ran with this splashed across the front pages.. but redtops and middle papers didn't..

you all think that some of the are trying to bury it to deflect as much attention as possible... mail,express,sun, star....

the other thing that was missed by a lot of papers yesterday is that the sun and the mirror were in the high court on contempt charges in relation to the "jo yates" murder case and there portrayal of one of the then suspects who was found to be completely innocent...

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

To correct you, The Daily Mail and The Daily express have covered the story.

But I'm beginning to wonder if the "red tops" are maybe all guilty of this, not just the NOTW.

Just as we are hearing this morning that the phone hacking scandal has now extended to include the families of those killed in the 7/7 bombings, whose phones might have been hacked into.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"To correct you, The Daily Mail and The Daily express have covered the story.

But I'm beginning to wonder if the "red tops" are maybe all guilty of this, not just the NOTW.

I can't see it just being one of them doing it or any other underhand tactics that we don't know about.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

_enguy... if they have changed the later editions then i apologise.. the early edition of the express had some story about salt being good for you splashed across its front page... and the mail had a story of public sector pay....

interesting that the news international titles.. the times went with a report about the make up of most judges (rich, male and white apparently... like we didn't already know) and the sun went with the IVF lotto

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

apart from the advertising boycot the paper should be rejected by all on sunday. And to add gross insult to all of this the met police were paid FOR info and assistance in cover up......ALL known by the bosses who sanctioned it all.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

well jemima khan tweeted something which is actually ironic and true..

so rebekah brooks ceo of news international is leading an enquiry into a paper led at the time by rebekah brooks then editor of the NOTW.....

just watching PMQ's now... although I don't normally agree with milliband, I think he has gotten this one spot on.....

will watch the debate this afternoon with a keen eye...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the advertisers boycott has gotten bigger... joining ford in taking away the advertising are Halifax, Lloyds TSB, Virgin Holidays, and Renault and i am sure this will end up being the tip of the iceberg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The debate in the Commons is interesting but Milliband does not have a leg to stand on in his "outrage" because for the past few months his staff have been explicitly telling Labour MPs to AVOID linking the phone hacking scandals with the N.I. takeover of BSkyB. Right up until last night Labour were still more concerned about upsetting Mr Murdoch.

The Co-Op have just announced they are not advertising in the News of the World, but again, what the hell took them so long to act when their only point of difference is supposed to be acting ethically.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"The debate in the Commons is interesting but Milliband does not have a leg to stand on in his "outrage" because for the past few months his staff have been explicitly telling Labour MPs to AVOID linking the phone hacking scandals with the N.I. takeover of BSkyB. Right up until last night Labour were still more concerned about upsetting Mr Murdoch.

Milliband seems to have a very short memory, if not amnesia, from his time in NuLabours government.

Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't all of this "scandal" date back to when NuLabour were in power.

To me , the most interesting twist is the "buying" of the Police, either as an organisation or individually, which Rebakah Brook ( Wade ) let slip years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" To me , the most interesting twist is the "buying" of the Police, either as an organisation or individually, which Rebakah Brook ( Wade ) let slip years ago.

Funnily enough, when I read about the Met receiving money over this it didn't surprise me at all. I've long stopped seeing the police force as a public service and more of a private entity focused on raising cash the same as any other business does. I'm not saying it is inherently corrupt, I just think it's boundaries have become blurred somewhat over the past two decades.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Small steps but I won't buy there publications again and brought the independent today which did run with the story! Plus the point about jonyates story is bang on that guy maybe slightly different but they hung drew and quartered the poor bugger cos they put 2 and 2 together!! Also wasn't rebekka wade convicted of assault on Ross kemp when they were married that the notw ignored!!??

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

have to say it was fascinating watching the parlimentary debate this afternoon.... i don't think i have seen a time when everyone has stood up and agreed on a topic...

lets see how long the backlash lasts....

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Ya buy the tripe... Ya drive the behaviours...

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