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"There are loads of cheating women too here lol." ![]() | |||
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"Walk in their shoes first, it's lonely on the moral high ground ![]() It's lovely whereever you are or whoever's shoes you are in, but it doesn't make it right. Can't people just be bloody honest? I do believe the vows include "I promise to be faithful" and for your info, I've been there - the high and low ground - and its not nice! | |||
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"There are loads of cheating women too here lol. ![]() When hubby is watching football down the pub ![]() | |||
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"Oh by the way, yes I'm cheating!" Me too, and there's a story behind all of us, granted some a lot worse than others, but we don't all have the perfect life.. | |||
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"Oh by the way, yes I'm cheating! Me too, and there's a story behind all of us, granted some a lot worse than others, but we don't all have the perfect life.." ![]() | |||
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"There are loads of cheating women too here lol." Very true Fab has opened my eyes with regards to this. Men have in history since the dawn of time have been stigmatised as dirty dogs/ cheats etc.. Tho my experience on fab has shown me that this is quite a level playing field as the female sex is just as bad as their male counterparts. | |||
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"Walk in their shoes first, it's lonely on the moral high ground ![]() Mine is a slightly different scenario I guess but I understand the reasons ppl cheat, I have no qualms about what I'm doing ![]() | |||
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"There are loads of cheating women too here lol." I agree..... anyone cheating is not acceptable.... however I can only comment from my experience, because being a straight female I have no experience of cheating females!! Both equally abhorrent! | |||
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"People have their reasons. If you don't like it, don't meet them. It's pretty simple... " Obviously I wouldn't, but Its annoying when you make an effort to chat to someone who seems nice and then they declare they are attached, or worse, tell you during the meet!! My time is precious!! | |||
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"Oh by the way, yes I'm cheating! Me too, and there's a story behind all of us, granted some a lot worse than others, but we don't all have the perfect life.. ![]() Thanks for the sympathy but really not needed we're consoling each other ![]() | |||
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"People have their reasons. If you don't like it, don't meet them. It's pretty simple... Obviously I wouldn't, but Its annoying when you make an effort to chat to someone who seems nice and then they declare they are attached, or worse, tell you during the meet!! My time is precious!! " I'm very upfront about it | |||
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"Oh by the way, yes I'm cheating! Me too, and there's a story behind all of us, granted some a lot worse than others, but we don't all have the perfect life.. ![]() Ohhhh trust me, my life is so far from perfect you wouldn't believe, but still no excuse to be dishonest and unfaithful. Lives are often far from perfect, but that seems like an excuse to me!! | |||
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"There are lots of people cheating who are not on here too. It's as high as 1 in 4 people I think I read somewhere. But yes. There are cheaters on here. And many of them will lie to you like they lie to their partners. There are lots of genuine reasons why people might cheat. And lots of spurious ones too. I decided not to cheat. I decided to persuade my wife to join here with me. It was one of the best decisions I made. It took years of talking but in the end it was worth it " Persuade or coerce? | |||
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"There are lots of people cheating who are not on here too. It's as high as 1 in 4 people I think I read somewhere. But yes. There are cheaters on here. And many of them will lie to you like they lie to their partners. There are lots of genuine reasons why people might cheat. And lots of spurious ones too. I decided not to cheat. I decided to persuade my wife to join here with me. It was one of the best decisions I made. It took years of talking but in the end it was worth it " Well done..... a good, honest man. I'm sure your marriage is happy and fulfilled because of it! | |||
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"People have their reasons. If you don't like it, don't meet them. It's pretty simple... Obviously I wouldn't, but Its annoying when you make an effort to chat to someone who seems nice and then they declare they are attached, or worse, tell you during the meet!! My time is precious!! " I've had this too. Now I ask upfront. I used to feel like you do about attached people being on here without permission, but then I realised that people have their reasons. I'm not going to judge people who are in a situation that I know nothing about. | |||
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"People have their reasons. If you don't like it, don't meet them. It's pretty simple... Obviously I wouldn't, but Its annoying when you make an effort to chat to someone who seems nice and then they declare they are attached, or worse, tell you during the meet!! My time is precious!! I've had this too. Now I ask upfront. I used to feel like you do about attached people being on here without permission, but then I realised that people have their reasons. I'm not going to judge people who are in a situation that I know nothing about. " And what if they lie when asked?! | |||
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"Oh by the way, yes I'm cheating! Me too, and there's a story behind all of us, granted some a lot worse than others, but we don't all have the perfect life.. ![]() So my bed is empty tonight and you know my story I see! | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? " They come for the fucking. ![]() | |||
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"People have their reasons. If you don't like it, don't meet them. It's pretty simple... Obviously I wouldn't, but Its annoying when you make an effort to chat to someone who seems nice and then they declare they are attached, or worse, tell you during the meet!! My time is precious!! I've had this too. Now I ask upfront. I used to feel like you do about attached people being on here without permission, but then I realised that people have their reasons. I'm not going to judge people who are in a situation that I know nothing about. And what if they lie when asked?! " Some will, the majority have been open, I've found. A guy misled me when I first joined. It was frustrating but I learnt from it and moved on. | |||
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"Oh by the way, yes I'm cheating! Me too, and there's a story behind all of us, granted some a lot worse than others, but we don't all have the perfect life.. ![]() So is mine, but through choice! If you aren't happy, you could always just be honest. I do realise that it's not always easy, but nothing in life is ever easy! Far from it! | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? They come for the fucking. ![]() Wrong not just that ![]() | |||
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"People have their reasons. If you don't like it, don't meet them. It's pretty simple... Obviously I wouldn't, but Its annoying when you make an effort to chat to someone who seems nice and then they declare they are attached, or worse, tell you during the meet!! My time is precious!! I've had this too. Now I ask upfront. I used to feel like you do about attached people being on here without permission, but then I realised that people have their reasons. I'm not going to judge people who are in a situation that I know nothing about. And what if they lie when asked?! " People lie about all sorts of shite, if you're that concerned about it take time to 'know' someone before meeting them, if they're attatched it's pretty easy to suss out. | |||
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"roll up roll up for today's cheating thread...." Hey we've not had one for a while!! I was getting withdrawal symptoms lol | |||
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"People have their reasons. If you don't like it, don't meet them. It's pretty simple... Obviously I wouldn't, but Its annoying when you make an effort to chat to someone who seems nice and then they declare they are attached, or worse, tell you during the meet!! My time is precious!! I've had this too. Now I ask upfront. I used to feel like you do about attached people being on here without permission, but then I realised that people have their reasons. I'm not going to judge people who are in a situation that I know nothing about. And what if they lie when asked?! People lie about all sorts of shite, if you're that concerned about it take time to 'know' someone before meeting them, if they're attatched it's pretty easy to suss out." I'm happy to give spot a cheat lessons, takes one to know one ![]() | |||
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"Walk in their shoes first, it's lonely on the moral high ground ![]() What she said. | |||
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"There are lots of people cheating who are not on here too. It's as high as 1 in 4 people I think I read somewhere. But yes. There are cheaters on here. And many of them will lie to you like they lie to their partners. There are lots of genuine reasons why people might cheat. And lots of spurious ones too. I decided not to cheat. I decided to persuade my wife to join here with me. It was one of the best decisions I made. It took years of talking but in the end it was worth it " There is a lot of 'I' and no 'We' in this post, is she still in need of persuading... | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? I don't have any problem with couple's having fun or hotwives having fun WITH their husband's knowledge or vice versa (this is a huge turn on for a lot of people Inc me!!) but not if the men are looking for 'extra' sex behind their partner's backs! Call me old fashioned or perhaps I'm someone with morals or some judgement, but I find cheating offensive!!! " For gods sake, let this topic go, people have their reasons, if you don't like them don't interact with them but stop keep going over and over this subject | |||
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"roll up roll up for today's cheating thread.... Hey we've not had one for a while!! I was getting withdrawal symptoms lol" It's been all of 24 hours I believe.. ![]() | |||
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"Oh by the way, yes I'm cheating! Me too, and there's a story behind all of us, granted some a lot worse than others, but we don't all have the perfect life.." ![]() | |||
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"roll up roll up for today's cheating thread.... Hey we've not had one for a while!! I was getting withdrawal symptoms lol It's been all of 24 hours I believe.. ![]() Do you mean I missed it ![]() | |||
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"Because they choose to be? They want a sex life for a myriad of reasons? If it's something you disagree with, make it clear on your profile. Ask the people you're talking with - quite often they'll be open about it." Yes and even when people are not cheating we all have a history and can understand other people's situations, because believe it or not marriage like life is not just black and white... | |||
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"Think I'll go jump off the roof, might make things easier all round here. Good night." Drama llama. The day you let a random persons opinon on a sex site get to you is the day you need to have a rethink. | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? I don't have any problem with couple's having fun or hotwives having fun WITH their husband's knowledge or vice versa (this is a huge turn on for a lot of people Inc me!!) but not if the men are looking for 'extra' sex behind their partner's backs! Call me old fashioned or perhaps I'm someone with morals or some judgement, but I find cheating offensive!!! For gods sake, let this topic go, people have their reasons, if you don't like them don't interact with them but stop keep going over and over this subject " EXCUSE ME???? This happens to be the FIRST time I've posted on the forum so I am NOT "going on about it".... I have an opinion and a right to be annoyed as anyone else on here.... it's not as easy as you state, because people are DISHONEST strangely enough. I would obviously not meet someone who was upfront about it from the start and I appreciate it when they are and decline the chat going any further. | |||
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"There are lots of people cheating who are not on here too. It's as high as 1 in 4 people I think I read somewhere. But yes. There are cheaters on here. And many of them will lie to you like they lie to their partners. There are lots of genuine reasons why people might cheat. And lots of spurious ones too. I decided not to cheat. I decided to persuade my wife to join here with me. It was one of the best decisions I made. It took years of talking but in the end it was worth it " So you could cheat in front of her face!!!!! | |||
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"Think I'll go jump off the roof, might make things easier all round here. Good night." please dont joke or trivialise suicide | |||
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"Think I'll go jump off the roof, might make things easier all round here. Good night. please dont joke or trivialise suicide " Well said! | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? I don't have any problem with couple's having fun or hotwives having fun WITH their husband's knowledge or vice versa (this is a huge turn on for a lot of people Inc me!!) but not if the men are looking for 'extra' sex behind their partner's backs! Call me old fashioned or perhaps I'm someone with morals or some judgement, but I find cheating offensive!!! For gods sake, let this topic go, people have their reasons, if you don't like them don't interact with them but stop keep going over and over this subject EXCUSE ME???? This happens to be the FIRST time I've posted on the forum so I am NOT "going on about it".... I have an opinion and a right to be annoyed as anyone else on here.... it's not as easy as you state, because people are DISHONEST strangely enough. I would obviously not meet someone who was upfront about it from the start and I appreciate it when they are and decline the chat going any further. " I wouldn't stay on a site that made me this annoyed. | |||
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"I've slept with more than a couple of married women who were cheating, and married guys. It doesn't bother me unless they decide to unload why they are doing it on me. Dunno why it would bother me because I'm 100% sure everyone will cheat at some point, but it does. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Think I'll go jump off the roof, might make things easier all round here. Good night. please dont joke or trivialise suicide " ![]() | |||
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"Think I'll go jump off the roof, might make things easier all round here. Good night. please dont joke or trivialise suicide " Here, Here Scarlett... | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process." Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? They come for the fucking. ![]() ![]() What else then? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! " I'm far from defensive, I have no need to be my conscience is clear ![]() | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! " I was referring to your opening post ![]() | |||
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"Think I'll go jump off the roof, might make things easier all round here. Good night. please dont joke or trivialise suicide ![]() I didn't get the feeling he was joking or trivialising suicide. These cheating threads always make out the person cheating is the bad one but it doesn't always work that way. People cheat for a reason. | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! " I was going to be gentle in my comment but then just thought how many times I've seen comments like yours from people your age...!!! Please just GROW up... You will end up doing yourself a favour ![]() | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? They come for the fucking. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Can't speak for every cheat on the site and I'm not prepared to expand further on a thread, feel free to pm, I'd be happy to discuss ![]() | |||
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"this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... " You think? ![]() | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! " Oh FFS, just because someone tries to explain their own situation doesn't mean they are justifying it or being defensive. | |||
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"Think I'll go jump off the roof, might make things easier all round here. Good night. please dont joke or trivialise suicide ![]() So by suggesting he would go jump off a roof he was? Making a serious comment? Like cool, we get it. Cheaters get a hard time on here. Lots of people in this thread have said people cheat for different reasons. I think often the villain role is given to cheaters but still? I don't think it was an appropriate comment in the slightest ergo, shitty joke. | |||
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"I'm 100% sure everyone will cheat at some point " You're wrong there - I haven't and I won't If people are unhappy in their marriage they should leave ![]() | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! I was going to be gentle in my comment but then just thought how many times I've seen comments like yours from people your age...!!! Please just GROW up... You will end up doing yourself a favour ![]() If you LOOK at my age, you will see that I am just a few years younger than you so your ridiculous post has no bearing!! As for "growing up"... I'm not the dishonest one. I'd rather be immature (which I'm not) than dishonest. You don't need to be "gentle" with me lol! | |||
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"I'm 100% sure everyone will cheat at some point You're wrong there - I haven't and I won't If people are unhappy in their marriage they should leave ![]() Yeah and back in the real world | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? They come for the fucking. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But you're not a man? This thread is specifically about married men on fab, it's right there in the OP. | |||
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"I'm 100% sure everyone will cheat at some point You're wrong there - I haven't and I won't If people are unhappy in their marriage they should leave ![]() Absolutely agreed! (Or at least be honest with their partner) | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! I was going to be gentle in my comment but then just thought how many times I've seen comments like yours from people your age...!!! Please just GROW up... You will end up doing yourself a favour ![]() I ain't going to argue with you... my point 'age wise' was exactly what u replied with, so you should be old and experienced enough to fully understand people, relationships etc., by now... | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? I don't have any problem with couple's having fun or hotwives having fun WITH their husband's knowledge or vice versa (this is a huge turn on for a lot of people Inc me!!) but not if the men are looking for 'extra' sex behind their partner's backs! Call me old fashioned or perhaps I'm someone with morals or some judgement, but I find cheating offensive!!! For gods sake, let this topic go, people have their reasons, if you don't like them don't interact with them but stop keep going over and over this subject EXCUSE ME???? This happens to be the FIRST time I've posted on the forum so I am NOT "going on about it".... I have an opinion and a right to be annoyed as anyone else on here.... it's not as easy as you state, because people are DISHONEST strangely enough. I would obviously not meet someone who was upfront about it from the start and I appreciate it when they are and decline the chat going any further. " You can write in as many capitals with as many question marks as you like, your perogative, but this topic has been gone over again and again and again in the forums, slightly different word's each time but with the same underlying theme Again, don't like people cheating?, fine,your own opinion and its as valid as anyone's, but after how many now of these posts on this topic by various members?, people who do have reason to seek others whilst attached are going to get fed up being judged and not put up with it | |||
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"I'm 100% sure everyone will cheat at some point You're wrong there - I haven't and I won't If people are unhappy in their marriage they should leave ![]() Sorry everyone cheats. By thought or action everyone strays. | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? They come for the fucking. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Do you think I don't chat with men who cheat. I'm not a hypocrite, I have a lot of insight on the subject. I spent a year on a chat site which was full of married/attached men. Listening is the key and it isn't just about sex for the majority ![]() | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? They come for the fucking. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() See that is a worry. I can understand a guy looking elsewhere for sex. But if he's looking for more than that then he really should consider changing things at home. Mind you never forget, guys will tell you anything to get use your vagina for an hour. | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! I was going to be gentle in my comment but then just thought how many times I've seen comments like yours from people your age...!!! Please just GROW up... You will end up doing yourself a favour ![]() I "understand people/relationships" etc perfectly, what I don't understand is dishonest people or those who choose to cheat on someone they may share a bed with, someone who likely cooks/cleans/irons etc for them, someone they may say they care about and may even say "I love you" to on a regular basis?! I'm guessing that at least one or two of the above options apply to some of the people who are cheating?! | |||
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"I have been seeing a girl for a short while.. Decided to get the snip.. Both have kids and 'not youngish anymore' total mutual agreement. A week later she says I didn't want kids not her. Things obviously turn sour. Sex becomes non existent What else can I do when she is totally incomprehensible? " Leave. | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? I don't have any problem with couple's having fun or hotwives having fun WITH their husband's knowledge or vice versa (this is a huge turn on for a lot of people Inc me!!) but not if the men are looking for 'extra' sex behind their partner's backs! Call me old fashioned or perhaps I'm someone with morals or some judgement, but I find cheating offensive!!! Just down to morales." Yes her own morals, not mine as everyone lives by their own moral code. | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people on a site, who show their most private parts to a world of strangers, who throw themselves out there to meet strangers for sex can be so bloody judgemental. At the end of the day, as has been mentioned many times above you cannot possibly know the dynamics of someones relationship. No one needs to explain why they are here and it is pretty easy to jusy say "no I don't want to meet attatched people" Some will be honest and some won't Why should it matter to anyone else what someone does away from their 'real life' Everyone has stuff, reasons for needing that little bit more. People say leave....sometimes it just isn't that easy. Until you are in the situation yourself you couldn't possibly know. Stop trying to make sense or get people to justify their purpose on here and just enjoy your own journey. And yes I've cheated, no I don't feel guilty and I happily meet attached people. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people on a site, who show their most private parts to a world of strangers, who throw themselves out there to meet strangers for sex can be so bloody judgemental. At the end of the day, as has been mentioned many times above you cannot possibly know the dynamics of someones relationship. No one needs to explain why they are here and it is pretty easy to jusy say "no I don't want to meet attatched people" Some will be honest and some won't Why should it matter to anyone else what someone does away from their 'real life' Everyone has stuff, reasons for needing that little bit more. People say leave....sometimes it just isn't that easy. Until you are in the situation yourself you couldn't possibly know. Stop trying to make sense or get people to justify their purpose on here and just enjoy your own journey. And yes I've cheated, no I don't feel guilty and I happily meet attached people. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people on a site, who show their most private parts to a world of strangers, who throw themselves out there to meet strangers for sex can be so bloody judgemental. At the end of the day, as has been mentioned many times above you cannot possibly know the dynamics of someones relationship. No one needs to explain why they are here and it is pretty easy to jusy say "no I don't want to meet attatched people" Some will be honest and some won't Why should it matter to anyone else what someone does away from their 'real life' Everyone has stuff, reasons for needing that little bit more. People say leave....sometimes it just isn't that easy. Until you are in the situation yourself you couldn't possibly know. Stop trying to make sense or get people to justify their purpose on here and just enjoy your own journey. And yes I've cheated, no I don't feel guilty and I happily meet attached people. ![]() THIS! ![]() | |||
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"And the haters gonna, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate and I just wanna slake, shake, shake, shake, shake, shake it off, shake it off. Well I don't actually want to shake it off but I think you get my gist ![]() I get it lol ![]() | |||
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"There are lots of people cheating who are not on here too. It's as high as 1 in 4 people I think I read somewhere. But yes. There are cheaters on here. And many of them will lie to you like they lie to their partners. There are lots of genuine reasons why people might cheat. And lots of spurious ones too. I decided not to cheat. I decided to persuade my wife to join here with me. It was one of the best decisions I made. It took years of talking but in the end it was worth it " It's rare for couples to admit this. You're lucky you persuaded her after so many years of talking her into it | |||
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"I'm a cheater, I always slip myself an extra £500 when playing banker in monopoly. ![]() ![]() I am a cheat I confess. I don't steal hotels though. | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people on a site, who show their most private parts to a world of strangers, who throw themselves out there to meet strangers for sex can be so bloody judgemental. At the end of the day, as has been mentioned many times above you cannot possibly know the dynamics of someones relationship. No one needs to explain why they are here and it is pretty easy to jusy say "no I don't want to meet attatched people" Some will be honest and some won't Why should it matter to anyone else what someone does away from their 'real life' Everyone has stuff, reasons for needing that little bit more. People say leave....sometimes it just isn't that easy. Until you are in the situation yourself you couldn't possibly know. Stop trying to make sense or get people to justify their purpose on here and just enjoy your own journey. And yes I've cheated, no I don't feel guilty and I happily meet attached people. ![]() No harm in asking questions. How can people learn new things if they don't ask? It's a Swinging site. Couples have to put a lot of trust in their relationship and partner to Swing. It's not cheating. Unless one or both has secret ulterior motives and then it is cheating labelled as Swinging. Their relationship is the most important thing to them. So who they meet is also important. They can use whatever criteria they wish when choosing who to meet. If they choose not to meet liars or cheaters that is their prerogative. Seems to be the liars and cheaters and people that get turned down that whine the most about it. Entitled. ![]() | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me how people on a site, who show their most private parts to a world of strangers, who throw themselves out there to meet strangers for sex can be so bloody judgemental. At the end of the day, as has been mentioned many times above you cannot possibly know the dynamics of someones relationship. No one needs to explain why they are here and it is pretty easy to jusy say "no I don't want to meet attatched people" Some will be honest and some won't Why should it matter to anyone else what someone does away from their 'real life' Everyone has stuff, reasons for needing that little bit more. People say leave....sometimes it just isn't that easy. Until you are in the situation yourself you couldn't possibly know. Stop trying to make sense or get people to justify their purpose on here and just enjoy your own journey. And yes I've cheated, no I don't feel guilty and I happily meet attached people. ![]() ![]() Who is entitled? No one is saying not to ask but why be so negative about 'cheats' | |||
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"There are loads of cheating women too here lol. I agree..... anyone cheating is not acceptable.... however I can only comment from my experience, because being a straight female I have no experience of cheating females!! Both equally abhorrent! " That's a poor excuse...do you think that only men in this world Cheat lol?! Sounds to me like you've been strung along by a married bloke and now you've got ...ermmmmmm...sour grapes? It's life people cheat..you say I don't judge but you've opened a full forum post just to ...well...do exactly that. Lol | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? I don't have any problem with couple's having fun or hotwives having fun WITH their husband's knowledge or vice versa (this is a huge turn on for a lot of people Inc me!!) but not if the men are looking for 'extra' sex behind their partner's backs! Call me old fashioned or perhaps I'm someone with morals or some judgement, but I find cheating offensive!!! " There are many reasons why men and women cheat and unless you have lived their life you can't understand their reasons, yes they made the promise to be faithful but then maybe they didn't expect to be in an abusive relationship ! It's not easy to leave when you have children and a mortgage etc and you are emotionally abused ... yes that was my life with my first husband. I turned to swinging and it saved my life. I did always make it clear i was already married though with guys i met. Thankfully though it ended well and G is wonderful ![]() | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process. Not as easy as that as I've already said.... as for not getting on the moral highground, I wouldn't have needed to if the cheaters had not got so defensive and tried to justify their immorality! " There are different levels of morality why there's even people that believe ur morals are in the gutter for just being here but then ud not like them imposing their morals on u so don't impose urs on others block and move on there's plenty here for every one | |||
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" This debate will never be resolved to the satisfaction of all perspectives...end of. So as a consequence, surely,the sensible thing is for those who are opposed to it happening, have no contact with people involved in extra marital sex, and those advocating it simply carry on without feeling the need to publicly justify their actions? The world is full of polar opposites...just learn to accept that other people's lives are their own to either make or destroy in their own fashion. I'm sure a lot of married people come on here to indulge then have that moment of epiphany about what's happening to them and where they're going in life. Others just carry on blindly. That's life...you get the exam first then the lesson after." When someone lies about being single there is no option to have no contact with married people. It takes away their choice. | |||
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" This debate will never be resolved to the satisfaction of all perspectives...end of. So as a consequence, surely,the sensible thing is for those who are opposed to it happening, have no contact with people involved in extra marital sex, and those advocating it simply carry on without feeling the need to publicly justify their actions? The world is full of polar opposites...just learn to accept that other people's lives are their own to either make or destroy in their own fashion. I'm sure a lot of married people come on here to indulge then have that moment of epiphany about what's happening to them and where they're going in life. Others just carry on blindly. That's life...you get the exam first then the lesson after." I try to avoid the married/attached ones but lots don't advertise it until you've been chatting for a while, always frustrating!! It doesn't bother me why people are on here but being open about it from the word go would be helpful. | |||
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"Hi fellow fabbers!! This has likely been asked hundred's of times, but it is becoming extremely annoying to me!! Now please understand that I don't want to get on the moral highground, nor do i wish to attract any conflict..... this is after all a 'swingers' site!!... But why are there so many married or attached men on here doing so WITHOUT their wives/partner's consent or knowledge?? They come for the fucking. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Why me as well? | |||
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"Always wonder why people get so uptight about married guys. For me, that's their burden to carry as long as their wife isn't in MI5 or a Private Investigator with a firearms license and a jiu jitsu master... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I find married guys have loads of pent-up wanton frustrated desire - feel free to unleash all that on me please ![]() | |||
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"Always wonder why people get so uptight about married guys. For me, that's their burden to carry as long as their wife isn't in MI5 or a Private Investigator with a firearms license and a jiu jitsu master... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 'Married men whose wives AREN'T in the secret services' thread... roll up, roll up ![]() | |||
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"There are lots of women who are married or attached here too and who's other half doesn't know. I don't have an issue with it as long as people are honest so those meeting them can make informed choices. I'm not living their life so it's not down to me to judge. " I agree with this, however I struggle with the term "honest" as surely they can't be honest people if they are in that situation. | |||
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"There are lots of women who are married or attached here too and who's other half doesn't know. I don't have an issue with it as long as people are honest so those meeting them can make informed choices. I'm not living their life so it's not down to me to judge. I agree with this, however I struggle with the term "honest" as surely they can't be honest people if they are in that situation." I get what you're saying too. | |||
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"Always wonder why people get so uptight about married guys. For me, that's their burden to carry as long as their wife isn't in MI5 or a Private Investigator with a firearms license and a jiu jitsu master... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sounds good - hopefully us singles who like a good married/attached can play too sometimes ![]() ![]() | |||
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"There are lots of women who are married or attached here too and who's other half doesn't know. I don't have an issue with it as long as people are honest so those meeting them can make informed choices. I'm not living their life so it's not down to me to judge. " Sound a bit of a contradition there. You don't have an issue with them lying to their partner just as long as they're not lying on heret? I'm not sure how they are being 'honest' about anything like that. One thing I see often on thread is that people are ok if they are not lied to.... ie. It's not personal to them, yet many will soon try to name and shame. I just find this behaviour strange....don't understand it. | |||
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"I don't think you succeeded in not getting on the moral high ground with your opening post. If you don't want to meet married men, then don't. As someone above suggested, change/improve your selection process." Its alright us all saying 'if you dont wanna meet M/A men then don't' this is exactly her point.... shes trying not to but the swines still lie to get her in the sack xx | |||
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