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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think? "

No I don't think so at all. Yes it requires positivity but not sugar coating OP. You wouldn't sugar coat a physical illness so why sugar coat a mental health one?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think?

No I don't think so at all. Yes it requires positivity but not sugar coating OP. You wouldn't sugar coat a physical illness so why sugar coat a mental health one?

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Because if your sat there with a voice telling you that you have a problem constantly your going to struggle to combat that, and seeing as medication can only work so well it needs a long term positive reinforcement from yourself

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

But surely that doesn't mean trivialising the issue by giving it a silly name

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"But surely that doesn't mean trivialising the issue by giving it a silly name "

And calling it an issue or a problem isnt a silly name? Im just talking from the research that i did and all the patients i spoke to said that having this negative stigma wasnt helpful and marshmallows was the best one i heard after all who doesnt like a marshmallow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think?

No I don't think so at all. Yes it requires positivity but not sugar coating OP. You wouldn't sugar coat a physical illness so why sugar coat a mental health one?

Because if your sat there with a voice telling you that you have a problem constantly your going to struggle to combat that, and seeing as medication can only work so well it needs a long term positive reinforcement from yourself "

But i don't see how marshmallows is positive reinforcement. If medication compliance is an issue then referrring to their illness as marshmallows would not help anything. If anything I think it would be disrespectful

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think?

No I don't think so at all. Yes it requires positivity but not sugar coating OP. You wouldn't sugar coat a physical illness so why sugar coat a mental health one?

Because if your sat there with a voice telling you that you have a problem constantly your going to struggle to combat that, and seeing as medication can only work so well it needs a long term positive reinforcement from yourself

But i don't see how marshmallows is positive reinforcement. If medication compliance is an issue then referrring to their illness as marshmallows would not help anything. If anything I think it would be disrespectful "

The person who i got it from was particularly fond of marshmallows so he and his wife referred to his schisophrenia as his mental marshmallows because it was a postive thing to them and so he didnt have this stigma to fight too. I just thought it was funny and kind of cute.

Also only a small percentage of schizophrenics are really treatable with medication most are better with therapy, made a real bugger of my dissertation where im synthesising new forms of medication

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mental health is an illness - treat it as that and for most its curable or manageable -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I don't think they should be called "issues", but they are illnesses.

Surely by calling a mental illness something like a "marshmallow", it will set back the recognition of them being an actual illness. Remember, mental health is very much stigmatised and not seen as a real problem by many. I can't help but think I'm doing this, it'll just add to the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I don't think they should be called "issues", but they are illnesses.

Surely by calling a mental illness something like a "marshmallow", it will set back the recognition of them being an actual illness. Remember, mental health is very much stigmatised and not seen as a real problem by many. I can't help but think *in* doing this, it'll just add to the problem. "

I fixed it for myself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think?

No I don't think so at all. Yes it requires positivity but not sugar coating OP. You wouldn't sugar coat a physical illness so why sugar coat a mental health one?

Because if your sat there with a voice telling you that you have a problem constantly your going to struggle to combat that, and seeing as medication can only work so well it needs a long term positive reinforcement from yourself

But i don't see how marshmallows is positive reinforcement. If medication compliance is an issue then referrring to their illness as marshmallows would not help anything. If anything I think it would be disrespectful

The person who i got it from was particularly fond of marshmallows so he and his wife referred to his schisophrenia as his mental marshmallows because it was a postive thing to them and so he didnt have this stigma to fight too. I just thought it was funny and kind of cute.

Also only a small percentage of schizophrenics are really treatable with medication most are better with therapy, made a real bugger of my dissertation where im synthesising new forms of medication"

Well don't use the new anti-psychotics they're a waste of time, tried and tested haloperidol is my favourite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I don't think they should be called "issues", but they are illnesses.

Surely by calling a mental illness something like a "marshmallow", it will set back the recognition of them being an actual illness. Remember, mental health is very much stigmatised and not seen as a real problem by many. I can't help but think *in* doing this, it'll just add to the problem.

I fixed it for myself! "

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By *ystical_InkedBBWWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the Shire of Derby

I call them conditions as they effect your well-being, same as health conditions. They are something you live with, part of your every day life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't agree that this would prevent stigma, I do think it will trivialise genuine health concerns that many people struggle with.

Mental health illnesses/problems, however it is phrased, is an umbrella term for conditions where fundamentally there is a difficulty that needs supporting be it through a clinical or non-clinical intervention. Conditions have their own names -- bipolar, dissociative identity disorder, psychosis, schizophrenia etc -- these are not inherently negative words but are used in a stigmatising fashion in general language (and often incorrectly so) such as psycho, schizo etc. Let's work on raising awareness and challenging the real negative language used around mental health issues (nutter, headcase etc) rather than trivialise a coverall term for conditions by postulating that it is disempowering.

For those who suffer with musculoskeletal issues/conditions/problems do we start calling them musculoskeletal marshmallows? I find the notion misses the real problem of mental health stigma.

And one aspect of which is the fact we tend to call it stigma rather than discrimination. If it were re sex or race we would always push the word discrimination first and foremost. With mental health we still tend to lead with the slightly softer term stigma...

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think?

No I don't think so at all. Yes it requires positivity but not sugar coating OP. You wouldn't sugar coat a physical illness so why sugar coat a mental health one?

Because if your sat there with a voice telling you that you have a problem constantly your going to struggle to combat that, and seeing as medication can only work so well it needs a long term positive reinforcement from yourself

But i don't see how marshmallows is positive reinforcement. If medication compliance is an issue then referrring to their illness as marshmallows would not help anything. If anything I think it would be disrespectful

The person who i got it from was particularly fond of marshmallows so he and his wife referred to his schisophrenia as his mental marshmallows because it was a postive thing to them and so he didnt have this stigma to fight too. I just thought it was funny and kind of cute.

Also only a small percentage of schizophrenics are really treatable with medication most are better with therapy, made a real bugger of my dissertation where im synthesising new forms of medication

Well don't use the new anti-psychotics they're a waste of time, tried and tested haloperidol is my favourite."

Not sure prescriptions work on fab platforms

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I broke my elbow last year. It was a problem...it was "broken". That implied it required "fixing" or "treating"....... just as mental health issues require treating.

Tobtrivialise them with silly, fluffy names would just avoid or delay the treatment required.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Black dog? I can actually see the point the OP is trying to make but I think it may be an individual thing. And bottom line illness is negative!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

What i was trying to get at wasnt recalling them marshmallows, that was just a phrase i came across that i found fun and cute because it was what a couple called it.

Im just saying that words problem and issue are attached to the discriminating stigma and so i believe that a more positive word albeit something totally outside of the world of medicine will be of more benefit than a different word. My younger brother has schizophrenia hence my research and it broke my heart when he was diagnosed because all the movies and tv stuff that trivialise and discriminate against people, he thought he was predestined to be a serial killer because of the problem that he was told he had. We call it his marshmallows because he found it funny too

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By *8Roost88Man
over a year ago

Derby

Having worked with many people with mental health problems I agree. Other than giving more positive names to things I'd argue just trying to change the stigmas of existing words by getting people to be more aware in general. The thing is that will take time and arguably a major effort to get more people aware of mental health issues overall and how it isn't just dangerous people from movies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What i was trying to get at wasnt recalling them marshmallows, that was just a phrase i came across that i found fun and cute because it was what a couple called it.

Im just saying that words problem and issue are attached to the discriminating stigma and so i believe that a more positive word albeit something totally outside of the world of medicine will be of more benefit than a different word. My younger brother has schizophrenia hence my research and it broke my heart when he was diagnosed because all the movies and tv stuff that trivialise and discriminate against people, he thought he was predestined to be a serial killer because of the problem that he was told he had. We call it his marshmallows because he found it funny too"

On an individual level great, but you're suggesting putting a plaster over a gaping wound -- the issue with stigma is educating the wider public and normalising that it is merely an illness no different to a physical illness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine is my puppy-I don't like the black dog analogy.

Sometimes it behaves, is playful and keeps me company; sometimes it's badly behaved and gets sent to the corner to think about what it's done.

It can aggravate, sadden and tire me out, but it's my puppy and I look after it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Mine is my puppy-I don't like the black dog analogy.

Sometimes it behaves, is playful and keeps me company; sometimes it's badly behaved and gets sent to the corner to think about what it's done.

It can aggravate, sadden and tire me out, but it's my puppy and I look after it. "

I like that idea. On another dog related thing my brother has dogs which help to settle him on a bad day and stuff better than medication does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine is my puppy-I don't like the black dog analogy.

Sometimes it behaves, is playful and keeps me company; sometimes it's badly behaved and gets sent to the corner to think about what it's done.

It can aggravate, sadden and tire me out, but it's my puppy and I look after it.

I like that idea. On another dog related thing my brother has dogs which help to settle him on a bad day and stuff better than medication does"

Mine just get on my nerves and wear me out on bad days. I get a duvet and try to get them to sleep on the sofa with me. Any excuse for a duvet day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think a name would change the way the person feels and their daily struggle would be the same. In fact I would probably be offended if I had an issue that someone tried to give a fluffy name to.

I do agree that the way we think about things needs to change but that comes with time and a greater understanding.

If you compare it to people with learning difficulties the names spastic and mongo have been replaced with terms which describe the issues better and are more positive but at the end of the day it is a difficulty not a marshmallow.

The person you spoke to has developed a way to describe his own issues and Thats a positive thing but it wouldn't work for everyone and could make them feel embarrassed even more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who don't suffer with mental health problems know sod all about the symptoms anyway and trivialise.

Giving them another name (other than their recognised medical name) would just increase the confusion surrounding the illness with the general public.

Within the confines of your own home, with close family and friends, you can refer to it any old way you want to, but when dealing with those who have no idea - stick to the facts.

That's my opinion.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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if you know what medical terms actually mean then there's no problem really.

idiot and moron used to be psychological terms also.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"if you know what medical terms actually mean then there's no problem really.

idiot and moron used to be psychological terms also."

And now they're just frequent contributors to the politics forum .

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"if you know what medical terms actually mean then there's no problem really.

idiot and moron used to be psychological terms also.

And now they're just frequent contributors to the politics forum ."

you could still use them as medically accurate terms also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you know what medical terms actually mean then there's no problem really.

idiot and moron used to be psychological terms also."

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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it's weird how people think schitzophrenia means duel/multiple personalities though when really it's means a loner personality.

wonder where that misconception came from?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if you know what medical terms actually mean then there's no problem really.

idiot and moron used to be psychological terms also."

If thats the case what about the word mental? Used to be used with the word asylum and lunatic, that sure has a lot of history of being used horribly and discriminatroy will that word die off too

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"it's weird how people think schitzophrenia means duel/multiple personalities though when really it's means a loner personality.

wonder where that misconception came from?"

From horror movies and from its greek definition it means split person

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"it's weird how people think schitzophrenia means duel/multiple personalities though when really it's means a loner personality.

wonder where that misconception came from?

From horror movies and from its greek definition it means split person"

Sorry mind not person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum has Dementia its Alzheimers Caused when the brain is damaged by diseases, I would wish this on no one . You cant Sugar coat this with a fun word as its living hell for them who live with it..

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"if you know what medical terms actually mean then there's no problem really.

idiot and moron used to be psychological terms also.

If thats the case what about the word mental? Used to be used with the word asylum and lunatic, that sure has a lot of history of being used horribly and discriminatroy will that word die off too"

well these words mean something.

mental just means of the mind. asylum means place of rest/peace, lunatic (relates to the moon obv) but is how they thought mental health worked when the term was coined.

most people see this stuff as a negative due to mental health support AND knowledge being poor and having to put up with the negative consequences of mental health issues, diseases, and illnesses has brought about a poor image of mental health overall i reckon.

a lot of mentally ill people are blissfully unaware and not being treated as well, this adds to the above. we used to treat a lot of mentally ill people as criminals but as our knowledge and understanding grows we are looking at this differently now. you will still get people complain that certain criminals are not ill and are using mental health as an excuse also, they do not understand anything we are talking about though.

it is a negative also and not a positive. they are illnesses of the mind and cause problems. if you think anyone with mental health issues would not want to be rid of them if they could i think you'll be disappointed. not many do not want to change or be helped.

acting like someone with issues is strong can be correct, although i don't understand why we expect people to be strong because there is nothing wrong with being weak also. every single person that exists is a product of their genes, their surroundings, and everything they have experienced, and nobody is 'incorrect' for being who they are, but when people become dysfunctional then is where we tend to feel others should step in and help them with that or, more rarely, to protect others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My mum has Dementia its Alzheimers Caused when the brain is damaged by diseases, I would wish this on no one . You cant Sugar coat this with a fun word as its living hell for them who live with it.."

Im not trying to sugar coat it,im just suggesting that the words commonly used to describe it are all negative and attached to a stigma. If you are in a dr office and he has to break it would you not rather hear that you arent a serial killer and such and that in fact there is not as big a thing as we are lead to believe by the words used

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if you know what medical terms actually mean then there's no problem really.

idiot and moron used to be psychological terms also.

If thats the case what about the word mental? Used to be used with the word asylum and lunatic, that sure has a lot of history of being used horribly and discriminatroy will that word die off too

well these words mean something.

mental just means of the mind. asylum means place of rest/peace, lunatic (relates to the moon obv) but is how they thought mental health worked when the term was coined.

most people see this stuff as a negative due to mental health support AND knowledge being poor and having to put up with the negative consequences of mental health issues, diseases, and illnesses has brought about a poor image of mental health overall i reckon.

a lot of mentally ill people are blissfully unaware and not being treated as well, this adds to the above. we used to treat a lot of mentally ill people as criminals but as our knowledge and understanding grows we are looking at this differently now. you will still get people complain that certain criminals are not ill and are using mental health as an excuse also, they do not understand anything we are talking about though.

it is a negative also and not a positive. they are illnesses of the mind and cause problems. if you think anyone with mental health issues would not want to be rid of them if they could i think you'll be disappointed. not many do not want to change or be helped.

acting like someone with issues is strong can be correct, although i don't understand why we expect people to be strong because there is nothing wrong with being weak also. every single person that exists is a product of their genes, their surroundings, and everything they have experienced, and nobody is 'incorrect' for being who they are, but when people become dysfunctional then is where we tend to feel others should step in and help them with that or, more rarely, to protect others."

You know my issues with mental health as i told you long ago, so you can understand my point of view

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum has Dementia its Alzheimers Caused when the brain is damaged by diseases, I would wish this on no one . You cant Sugar coat this with a fun word as its living hell for them who live with it..

Im not trying to sugar coat it,im just suggesting that the words commonly used to describe it are all negative and attached to a stigma. If you are in a dr office and he has to break it would you not rather hear that you arent a serial killer and such and that in fact there is not as big a thing as we are lead to believe by the words used"
I need the words I can lookup on the net and find out about it .. And I don't find them negative at all ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum has Dementia its Alzheimers Caused when the brain is damaged by diseases, I would wish this on no one . You cant Sugar coat this with a fun word as its living hell for them who live with it..

Im not trying to sugar coat it,im just suggesting that the words commonly used to describe it are all negative and attached to a stigma. If you are in a dr office and he has to break it would you not rather hear that you arent a serial killer and such and that in fact there is not as big a thing as we are lead to believe by the words used"

But surely that is achieved by using the terms correctly, reclaiming medical terms, raising awareness etc rather than trying to sidestep it all by changing a term? Are you suggesting everyone has their own "positive" names for things or nationally (or internationally) we change the word? People have made good points about individuals using terminology that fits for them about their personal experience of their illness but in a medical environment surely there needs to commonality of understanding purely from a safety and comprehension perspective?

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"You know my issues with mental health as i told you long ago, so you can understand my point of view"

most people do not want to be viewed negatively, whether they have an illness or not. so i do understand why you might feel things need different labels.

you've just got to understand some issues are not your problem but their ignorance is. idk if changing the names of things will help when so many are already ignorant of what exists now and is not offensive.

do we continue dumbing down society so that the ignorant get it or do we start forcing people to learn/think before they speak? personally i see the dumbing down as helping a lot overall but for individuals i see it a problem and the other option would be better for themselves.

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By *evils-couple13Couple
over a year ago

Neath

As someone who suffers from mental illness it's taken me awhile to find a doctor who takes it seriously.It is a illness because it does interfere with my life.Sugar coating it would make it worse for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You know my issues with mental health as i told you long ago, so you can understand my point of view

most people do not want to be viewed negatively, whether they have an illness or not. so i do understand why you might feel things need different labels.

you've just got to understand some issues are not your problem but their ignorance is. idk if changing the names of things will help when so many are already ignorant of what exists now and is not offensive.

do we continue dumbing down society so that the ignorant get it or do we start forcing people to learn/think before they speak? personally i see the dumbing down as helping a lot overall but for individuals i see it a problem and the other option would be better for themselves."

Im not on about sugar coatingor dumbing down. Im saying that the whole approach could do with a rethink and from a sufferer id rather have not been told it by using these words which are already associated with a stigma

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

WOW! STUPID is strong in this thread. (lol)

Anyway here's my take on it.. and I could be entirely wrong lol and sincerely hope I don't offend anyone.

But it has got a name it's called "whacko" "screwball" "nut job" by morons who don't understand it, and by "it" I mean mental health.

It's routinely called an "issue" or a "disease" or [Insert any label you want here] simply because nobody has a damn clue how mental health works, how to deal with it, work with it, manage it or even how to solve it.

Heck most don't even UNDERSTAND it, let alone rectify any possible mental instability somebody coming to them has, they just recognise it as an "Issue".

You can't give mental health any other label than an "issue" because that's what it is, at least not for the interim until it's properly understood.

NOBODY can give it any other name until it's properly and accurately understood.... it's impossible.

People try though. . .hence the phrases "whacko" "nut job" "screwball/screwloose" descriptions.

And as for "marshmallow" that would be stigmatising it in the same way "whacko" stigmatises it.

Disclaimer: I don't have any mental health issues, have never studied it either. I'm just commenting on the post as it's asked.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"When i was doing my dissertation at uni i did it on schizophrenia and the thing that struck me was that there are no positive names for mental health problems.

They get called issues, problems, diseases, etc but never anything positive. A lot of mental health requires a positive outloo and so im proposing we rename them.

I think mental health marshmallows would be suitably positive what do you think? "

How can any kind of illness be a 'positive'? Is Cancer a 'positive'? If not, then how can bipolar disorder be anything else but a negative?

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"You know my issues with mental health as i told you long ago, so you can understand my point of view

most people do not want to be viewed negatively, whether they have an illness or not. so i do understand why you might feel things need different labels.

you've just got to understand some issues are not your problem but their ignorance is. idk if changing the names of things will help when so many are already ignorant of what exists now and is not offensive.

do we continue dumbing down society so that the ignorant get it or do we start forcing people to learn/think before they speak? personally i see the dumbing down as helping a lot overall but for individuals i see it a problem and the other option would be better for themselves.

Im not on about sugar coatingor dumbing down. Im saying that the whole approach could do with a rethink and from a sufferer id rather have not been told it by using these words which are already associated with a stigma"

well, like i already said, my thoughts on why there is the stigma is more based on ignorance of proper interpretation of the words rather than the words themselves.

i have noticed a dumbing down of a lot of things and this increases awareness of many issues and this helps somewhat, i'm not sure why it helps but it just seems to.

i suppose my thoughts are based more on do we have an aware and more tolerant society (as we are becoming) or an actual more understanding one? ideally it would be both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Im not on about sugar coatingor dumbing down. Im saying that the whole approach could do with a rethink and from a sufferer id rather have not been told it by using these words which are already associated with a stigma"

Read my post immediately below yours, because I cannot for the life of me get my head around the point you are making.

..or attempting to make.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"WOW! STUPID is strong in this thread. (lol)

Anyway here's my take on it.. and I could be entirely wrong lol and sincerely hope I don't offend anyone.

But it has got a name it's called "whacko" "screwball" "nut job" by morons who don't understand it, and by "it" I mean mental health.

It's routinely called an "issue" or a "disease" or [Insert any label you want here] simply because nobody has a damn clue how mental health works, how to deal with it, work with it, manage it or even how to solve it.

Heck most don't even UNDERSTAND it, let alone rectify any possible mental instability somebody coming to them has, they just recognise it as an "Issue".

You can't give mental health any other label than an "issue" because that's what it is, at least not for the interim until it's properly understood.

NOBODY can give it any other name until it's properly and accurately understood.... it's impossible.

People try though. . .hence the phrases "whacko" "nut job" "screwball/screwloose" descriptions.

And as for "marshmallow" that would be stigmatising it in the same way "whacko" stigmatises it.

Disclaimer: I don't have any mental health issues, have never studied it either. I'm just commenting on the post as it's asked.

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mental health is very much understood, by experts. unfortunately it affects individuals differently, thanks to their physical composition, what they've experienced in life, and what they understand about themselves. but there are a lot of broad terms that are enough to cover general ideas.

they should not be offensive terms (even moron just meant someone of low IQ at one time and was not used as an insult but just as a measure of low intelligence).

i do think because a lot of people like to see themselves as something they are not, or cannot handle others who are different to themselves, then these negative connotations arose from that.

no-one likes to be 'lesser', eugenics has been the focus of humans for a long time now. if people could accept their own 'faults' then maybe they'd be more willing to accept others and not be so hostile?

this is why i'm not naturally competitive and see that as a fault in humans. there's nothing to compete with. you are you, you can improve yourself however you see fit and nobody really has the right to tell you you aren't right for being who you are and who you want to be. society might tell you based on their collective objectives and experiences, but who's to say they're right either?

the logical approach works most of the time, OP has brought emotions into it and we are right to consider those too. not sure which way would bring about the best solution as people are complicated as individuals.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Im not on about sugar coatingor dumbing down. Im saying that the whole approach could do with a rethink and from a sufferer id rather have not been told it by using these words which are already associated with a stigma

Read my post immediately below yours, because I cannot for the life of me get my head around the point you are making.

..or attempting to make."

The point im trying to make was that when you are diagnosed there is no way of them phrasing it that isnt going to instill a negative attitude, i was just trying to say that if there was a new way to phrase it it might help begin the process of recovery faster. For example if you get diagnosed with cancer does the dr say to youve got this problem which is going to kill you and theres nothing you can do about it? No they phrase it better, all im asking is if there was a better way with which to phrase the diagnosis of a mental health condition that doesnt immediately make your mind jump to the words like nutcase and stuff

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over a year ago


"Personally, I don't think they should be called "issues", but they are illnesses.

Surely by calling a mental illness something like a "marshmallow", it will set back the recognition of them being an actual illness. Remember, mental health is very much stigmatised and not seen as a real problem by many. I can't help but think in doing this, it'll just add to the problem. "

Exactly this! I'd rather deal with the negative stigma around my mental illnesses than be made to feel even more like they're not real!

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over a year ago


"Personally, I don't think they should be called "issues", but they are illnesses.

Surely by calling a mental illness something like a "marshmallow", it will set back the recognition of them being an actual illness. Remember, mental health is very much stigmatised and not seen as a real problem by many. I can't help but think in doing this, it'll just add to the problem.

Exactly this! I'd rather deal with the negative stigma around my mental illnesses than be made to feel even more like they're not real!"

I agree with what you said, im only coming at it from a first diagnosis place, when your dr broke it to you did you attach any thought to the stigmas attached to the words

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By *edonistic ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Stratford


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Im not on about sugar coatingor dumbing down. Im saying that the whole approach could do with a rethink and from a sufferer id rather have not been told it by using these words which are already associated with a stigma

Read my post immediately below yours, because I cannot for the life of me get my head around the point you are making.

..or attempting to make.

The point im trying to make was that when you are diagnosed there is no way of them phrasing it that isnt going to instill a negative attitude, i was just trying to say that if there was a new way to phrase it it might help begin the process of recovery faster. For example if you get diagnosed with cancer does the dr say to youve got this problem which is going to kill you and theres nothing you can do about it? No they phrase it better, all im asking is if there was a better way with which to phrase the diagnosis of a mental health condition that doesnt immediately make your mind jump to the words like nutcase and stuff"

I think there may be some professionals who have a better 'bedside manner' than others. Oncologists breaking news to patients do so after a multi disciplinary team meeting where the whole patient is reviewed to ensure the news is given in a manner that the person affected can understand, cope with and fully appreciate. Often patients are told a diagnosis backed up with facts about prognosis. Maybe a similar system could be brought in for mental health diagnoses (if it's not already - apologies as this isn't my area of expertise). Every patient is an individual and will hear things differently. One may focus on the negative whilst another be thankful that there's a diagnosis and treatment is available. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's more than one way to break the news of a diagnosis and making it fluffy with a sweet sounding name isn't going to be helpful to everyone.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


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For example if you get diagnosed with cancer does the dr say to youve got this problem which is going to kill you and theres nothing you can do about it?

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Very good point. That is exactly what one is told; 50% chance of survival for more than one year

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over a year ago


"Personally, I don't think they should be called "issues", but they are illnesses.

Surely by calling a mental illness something like a "marshmallow", it will set back the recognition of them being an actual illness. Remember, mental health is very much stigmatised and not seen as a real problem by many. I can't help but think in doing this, it'll just add to the problem.

Exactly this! I'd rather deal with the negative stigma around my mental illnesses than be made to feel even more like they're not real!

I agree with what you said, im only coming at it from a first diagnosis place, when your dr broke it to you did you attach any thought to the stigmas attached to the words"

Personally my doctor never broke it to me. I've been around people with mental illnesses my whole life, so I know what to look out for and I had to go to my doctor and demand a referral because he's one of these arseholes who doesn't seem to believe in mental illness.

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over a year ago

I always thought monumental health was a good. Cause it's like that. A big fucking monument enters your head. Positive outlook. Absolutely and,a good support network.

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