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"Hi. I don't really know why I'm writing this. Or who I'm writing it for or what I intend to gain from writing it but writing it makes me feel like it's out there so here goes. I think I'm struggling with depression. Even though I've got friends and family around me I feel alone. Even though I'm doing well professionally I always fear failing. Even though I'm in a place where I'm comfortable and should feel happy, I'm not. I get irritated so easily, at the smallest of things and don't let go of things that frustrate me. I feel I'm never good enough or the right person, for anything, or anyone. I feel that people never understand me. Or want to... I feel like I'm always telling myself tomorrow will be a better day, but tomorrow only seems to get worse... I've been trying to change how I feel for months, living differently, being more active, taking time off Fab and other social media but nothing changes. Anyways, rant over. Thanks for listening." Sounds like you're teetering on the brink there - good time to get help! Good luck! | |||
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"Thank you everyone. I've been struggling with some long physical injuries and been reading recently how they can sometimes be a cause. I'm hopeful that I'll be straightened out soon. Couldn't wish this on anyone!" | |||
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"Thank you everyone. I've been struggling with some long physical injuries and been reading recently how they can sometimes be a cause. I'm hopeful that I'll be straightened out soon. Couldn't wish this on anyone!" Keep on rockin' chief. Every now and then I get little glimpses of what depression is like for a day or so...so far it's kept away and I've rallied the nextcouple of days.. But for dues to anyone having to handle it proper stay groovy, matey. | |||
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"Hi. I don't really know why I'm writing this. Or who I'm writing it for or what I intend to gain from writing it but writing it makes me feel like it's out there so here goes. I think I'm struggling with depression. Even though I've got friends and family around me I feel alone. Even though I'm doing well professionally I always fear failing. Even though I'm in a place where I'm comfortable and should feel happy, I'm not. I get irritated so easily, at the smallest of things and don't let go of things that frustrate me. I feel I'm never good enough or the right person, for anything, or anyone. I feel that people never understand me. Or want to... I feel like I'm always telling myself tomorrow will be a better day, but tomorrow only seems to get worse... I've been trying to change how I feel for months, living differently, being more active, taking time off Fab and other social media but nothing changes. Anyways, rant over. Thanks for listening." Have a look at Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, there are websites with forums that are also helpful. I had gone down the route of medication from my G.P. in the past and that did help personally. Seek help and advice is the best option.. P.m.me if you need someone to talk to. | |||
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"Hi. I don't really know why I'm writing this. Or who I'm writing it for or what I intend to gain from writing it but writing it makes me feel like it's out there so here goes. I think I'm struggling with depression. Even though I've got friends and family around me I feel alone. Even though I'm doing well professionally I always fear failing. Even though I'm in a place where I'm comfortable and should feel happy, I'm not. I get irritated so easily, at the smallest of things and don't let go of things that frustrate me. I feel I'm never good enough or the right person, for anything, or anyone. I feel that people never understand me. Or want to... I feel like I'm always telling myself tomorrow will be a better day, but tomorrow only seems to get worse... I've been trying to change how I feel for months, living differently, being more active, taking time off Fab and other social media but nothing changes. Anyways, rant over. Thanks for listening." Good luck on your road to recovery and remember your never alone. | |||
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"Hi. I don't really know why I'm writing this. Or who I'm writing it for or what I intend to gain from writing it but writing it makes me feel like it's out there so here goes. I think I'm struggling with depression. Even though I've got friends and family around me I feel alone. Even though I'm doing well professionally I always fear failing. Even though I'm in a place where I'm comfortable and should feel happy, I'm not. I get irritated so easily, at the smallest of things and don't let go of things that frustrate me. I feel I'm never good enough or the right person, for anything, or anyone. I feel that people never understand me. Or want to... I feel like I'm always telling myself tomorrow will be a better day, but tomorrow only seems to get worse... I've been trying to change how I feel for months, living differently, being more active, taking time off Fab and other social media but nothing changes. Anyways, rant over. Thanks for listening." First of all, you have opened up on here so I will commend you. This is the first step to admitting to yourself you are struggling. 4 years ago I was going through a very similar process and it was a circle that I could not get out off I would echo what others and said and reach out to doctor, and also seek counciling it helped me. Also encouraged me to open up about issues so that I am not so insular. There are a number of good resources around that could help Mind. I still have my darker days (kinda in that place at the moment) ,but I find writing a list helps what I can influence and what I can't. The can't list goes in the bin then I focus on the can and get on with that It is ok to be struggling and it's no sign of weakness. feel free to get in contact to talk buddy to buddy | |||
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"Samaritans have a helpline you can call anytime. Please use it if you're in crisis. " They also have email and lots of online services you can use. They may even have a forum. I know it can be hard to motivate yourself if you feel low, but setting small achievable tasks can help. Walking or exercise will get the endorphins going which can be of great help. If you have a good friend you can talk to, please do, you'll be surprised how much talking therapy can help. Some Doctors surgeries offer 6 weeks of counselling and your employer might have an assistance programme that might be of help too. Keep talking on here or anyone you feel comfortable to. Talking it out is really important. | |||
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"Don't believe in it, it's a first world problem, look at all the people who should be the ones saying they are depressed and don't. We all have a shitty day or two but you have to keep a positive mind frame and positive things will happen. Man up and chin up OP everything will be fine." Do you not think that maybe these people who you say should be depressed arent worried about something else first and so are fighting the depression as well as other things? | |||
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"Don't believe in it, it's a first world problem, look at all the people who should be the ones saying they are depressed and don't. We all have a shitty day or two but you have to keep a positive mind frame and positive things will happen. Man up and chin up OP everything will be fine. Do you not think that maybe these people who you say should be depressed arent worried about something else first and so are fighting the depression as well as other things?" I once cried because I had no shoes until I saw someone with no feet. | |||
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"Chin up is the last thing you wanna hear if ur feeling down . That and 'Shake ya sen' lol" That and oh its not a real thing everyone gets upset | |||
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"Don't believe in it, it's a first world problem, look at all the people who should be the ones saying they are depressed and don't. We all have a shitty day or two but you have to keep a positive mind frame and positive things will happen. Man up and chin up OP everything will be fine." OP, this can be a typical reply to someone with depression. Ignore it. | |||
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"Don't believe in it, it's a first world problem, look at all the people who should be the ones saying they are depressed and don't. We all have a shitty day or two but you have to keep a positive mind frame and positive things will happen. Man up and chin up OP everything will be fine." Man up? It's that kind of shitty comment that drives people over the top I had that for years, knowing there was something wrong inside and having people say, oh don't be so soft,it's all in your head,behave like a man and think positive Well, there was something wrong inside my head as it turns out, a pituitary tumour, so forgive me, but your comments about man up are just offensive to me | |||
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"m1cks, I'm pretty appalled at your need to trivialise someone else's experience in this way. At the very least (whatever your personal views) can you not think about the potential impact that kind of flippancy could have? Suicide is a real thing whether you believe in depression as a cause or not. You never know where somebody is / how somebody is when they read that kind of negating of their experience type of drivel. You should have passed this by. I though you were more compassionate than that. " *thought | |||
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"The forums are meant to be fun, if you find yourself fuming, offended or writing long angry messages you're probably best taking a break from it." The op reached out for support, not to be told to man up, that deserves a response | |||
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"The forums are meant to be fun, if you find yourself fuming, offended or writing long angry messages you're probably best taking a break from it." I'd say that if you find yourself writing replies trivialising someone's very real, genuine issue, then you maybe need to re-evaluate a few things. | |||
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"Hey, its just my opinion is all the OP will have a choice to read from and follow the advice best suited to them. I personally don't believe in it, I've helped others turn their lives around by not beliving in it." I don't believe you. | |||
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"The forums are meant to be fun, if you find yourself fuming, offended or writing long angry messages you're probably best taking a break from it." My friend was close to suicide last year. Lucky we could get her the help she needed before it went that far. Asking them to snap out of it or ignoring a REAL problem could potentially have been devastating. No one asks to feel like that. I'm not sure what FUN you find in this topic, but try not to trivialise it | |||
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"Hey, its just my opinion is all the OP will have a choice to read from and follow the advice best suited to them. I personally don't believe in it, I've helped others turn their lives around by not beliving in it. I don't believe you. " Perhaps your taking credit for the work other people where also doing? | |||
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"Hey, its just my opinion is all the OP will have a choice to read from and follow the advice best suited to them. I personally don't believe in it, I've helped others turn their lives around by not beliving in it." If you'd have helped me when i was ill,id be dead years ago | |||
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"I think folk should stop mentioning the word suicidal the OP hasn't, that's the only thing 'trivalising' this thred. " m1cks I said clearly you don't know where he's at -- not saying the word 'suicidal' in his OP doesn't mean he might not be (also doesn't mean he is I warrant, which is clear in my comment) -- to not think about the potential impact of your comment is what's being trivial, IMO. | |||
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"I think folk should stop mentioning the word suicide, the OP hasn't used it, that's the only thing 'trivalising' this thred. " See my response to your first posting of this point. | |||
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"I think folk should stop mentioning the word suicide, the OP hasn't used it, that's the only thing 'trivalising' this thred. " Why? It was the depression that led her to feel that way. You can't pick and choose what parts you want to ignore. Saying you don't think it's a thing is quite frankly ridiculous | |||
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"I think folk should stop mentioning the word suicide, the OP hasn't used it, that's the only thing 'trivalising' this thred. Why? It was the depression that led her to feel that way. You can't pick and choose what parts you want to ignore. Saying you don't think it's a thing is quite frankly ridiculous" No disrespect to your friend bud, but she is not him. | |||
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"I think the OP is just having a bad few days, it happens to everyone my advise would be to firstly go see a Dr and then maybe take some time out and do stuff you enjoy doing find your smile again. I don't think sympathy is what you need at all." Saying *that* is better than saying his feelings don't exist (his feelings which at the time he expressed as depression, rightly or wrongly) and saying it's a first world problem -- as what you've done is expressed here that he should seek qualified advice. In your first post you didn't say that. You negated his experience with no mention of seeking advice from someone better qualified than you to give it. Irresponsible. | |||
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"I think folk should stop mentioning the word suicide, the OP hasn't used it, that's the only thing 'trivalising' this thred. Why? It was the depression that led her to feel that way. You can't pick and choose what parts you want to ignore. Saying you don't think it's a thing is quite frankly ridiculous No disrespect to your friend bud, but she is not him." Maybe don't say crap like you "don't believe in it" then. Because unfortunately you're wrong | |||
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"I think the OP is just having a bad few days, it happens to everyone my advise would be to firstly go see a Dr and then maybe take some time out and do stuff you enjoy doing find your smile again. I don't think sympathy is what you need at all." Few bad days? That's probably your most arrogant suggestion yet,read his op properly. And if can't see the underlying message then stop posting | |||
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"I think my point m1cks in the main is actually if this had been a general discussion around mental health then maybe there's a place for your comment. You're entitled to your opinion, however much I fundamentally disagree with you (and wonder how you can disagree with qualified clinicians?) but there we go. Given it was someone "reaching out" and not feeling in a good state however, you merely trivialising his experience without the possible further knowledge that he was/is ok wasn't really the most compassionate thing to do. Does that make sense? " Aye it does make sense however on the other hand in my humble experience depression doesn't even exist in some situations where it should and does in situations it shouldn't, in situations that it does; not everyone deals with it the same way. Comprende? | |||
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"I think my point m1cks in the main is actually if this had been a general discussion around mental health then maybe there's a place for your comment. You're entitled to your opinion, however much I fundamentally disagree with you (and wonder how you can disagree with qualified clinicians?) but there we go. Given it was someone "reaching out" and not feeling in a good state however, you merely trivialising his experience without the possible further knowledge that he was/is ok wasn't really the most compassionate thing to do. Does that make sense? Aye it does make sense however on the other hand in my humble experience depression doesn't even exist in some situations where it should and does in situations it shouldn't, in situations that it does; not everyone deals with it the same way. Comprende? " Every person is individual. Comprende? | |||
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"I think my point m1cks in the main is actually if this had been a general discussion around mental health then maybe there's a place for your comment. You're entitled to your opinion, however much I fundamentally disagree with you (and wonder how you can disagree with qualified clinicians?) but there we go. Given it was someone "reaching out" and not feeling in a good state however, you merely trivialising his experience without the possible further knowledge that he was/is ok wasn't really the most compassionate thing to do. Does that make sense? Aye it does make sense however on the other hand in my humble experience depression doesn't even exist in some situations where it should and does in situations it shouldn't, in situations that it does; not everyone deals with it the same way. Comprende? Every person is individual. Comprende? " My point exactly Ella not everyone is going to want the sympathy vote some of us need a kick up the erse every now and then to get ourselves back into gear, no. | |||
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"My advise was to the OP not to the masses he can take it or it ignore it, I don't feel folk negating things and assuming the OP is at their worst is going to help. OP first and formost contact a medical professional. Secondly remain optimistic stay positive you can and will beat this. Chin up." Thank you for modifying your comment to include seeking qualified clinical advice. That's all I was seeking, ultimately. I merely used extrapolation to a worst case to try and cause a rethink of your initial comment. Don't put words in my mouth, I never assumed OP was at his worst or not. My points have been direct to you, challenging you. For some reason you appear to have taken on board some need for a modification of your original post. Which is great | |||
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"I think my point m1cks in the main is actually if this had been a general discussion around mental health then maybe there's a place for your comment. You're entitled to your opinion, however much I fundamentally disagree with you (and wonder how you can disagree with qualified clinicians?) but there we go. Given it was someone "reaching out" and not feeling in a good state however, you merely trivialising his experience without the possible further knowledge that he was/is ok wasn't really the most compassionate thing to do. Does that make sense? Aye it does make sense however on the other hand in my humble experience depression doesn't even exist in some situations where it should and does in situations it shouldn't, in situations that it does; not everyone deals with it the same way. Comprende? Every person is individual. Comprende? My point exactly Ella not everyone is going to want the sympathy vote some of us need a kick up the erse every now and then to get ourselves back into gear, no." Qualified clinical advice is not a sympathy vote. | |||
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"OP Lifestyle changes that can treat depression. Exercise. Regular exercise can be as effective at treating depression as medication. ... Nutrition. Eating well is important for both your physical and mental health. ... Sleep. Sleep has a strong effect on mood. ... Social support. ... Stress reduction. " Treating "depression" -- even better, we're acknowledging it's existence finally. Great tips. | |||
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"OP Lifestyle changes that can treat depression. Exercise. Regular exercise can be as effective at treating depression as medication. ... Nutrition. Eating well is important for both your physical and mental health. ... Sleep. Sleep has a strong effect on mood. ... Social support. ... Stress reduction. Treating "depression" -- even better, we're acknowledging it's existence finally. Great tips. " Its** (hate typos) | |||
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"Hi. I don't really know why I'm writing this. Or who I'm writing it for or what I intend to gain from writing it but writing it makes me feel like it's out there so here goes. I think I'm struggling with depression. Even though I've got friends and family around me I feel alone. Even though I'm doing well professionally I always fear failing. Even though I'm in a place where I'm comfortable and should feel happy, I'm not. I get irritated so easily, at the smallest of things and don't let go of things that frustrate me. I feel I'm never good enough or the right person, for anything, or anyone. I feel that people never understand me. Or want to... I feel like I'm always telling myself tomorrow will be a better day, but tomorrow only seems to get worse... I've been trying to change how I feel for months, living differently, being more active, taking time off Fab and other social media but nothing changes. Anyways, rant over. Thanks for listening." I know exactly how you feel mate...i fully Sympathise with you but im sure you will work it all out. Fair play writing this..i couldnt do that. All the best | |||
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"I think the OP is just having a bad few days, it happens to everyone my advise would be to firstly go see a Dr and then maybe take some time out and do stuff you enjoy doing find your smile again. I don't think sympathy is what you need at all." It doesn't sound like the Op is having a bad few days, it sounds to me like depressive symptoms. And he's not asking for sympathy, he's asking for advice. I live with someone who has clinical depression and was suicidal. It is not something you can snap out of and doing happy things will not make it go away. He is very brave writing about it in an open Forum and clearly needs some medical help. | |||
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"My advise was to the OP not to the masses he can take it or it ignore it, I don't feel folk negating things and assuming the OP is at their worst is going to help. OP first and formost contact a medical professional. Secondly remain optimistic stay positive you can and will beat this. Chin up. Thank you for modifying your comment to include seeking qualified clinical advice. That's all I was seeking, ultimately. I merely used extrapolation to a worst case to try and cause a rethink of your initial comment. Don't put words in my mouth, I never assumed OP was at his worst or not. My points have been direct to you, challenging you. For some reason you appear to have taken on board some need for a modification of your original post. Which is great " Ella if you wanted to challenge me or anyone else would it not be better to do it via pm as opposed to on this guys thred? I don't think seeing folk being 'challenged' is gonna help his cause tbh. Anyhow this isn't about point scoring, it's about this dude who feels he's depressed I hope he gets the help he needs or snaps out of it on his own. | |||
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"My advise was to the OP not to the masses he can take it or it ignore it, I don't feel folk negating things and assuming the OP is at their worst is going to help. OP first and formost contact a medical professional. Secondly remain optimistic stay positive you can and will beat this. Chin up. Thank you for modifying your comment to include seeking qualified clinical advice. That's all I was seeking, ultimately. I merely used extrapolation to a worst case to try and cause a rethink of your initial comment. Don't put words in my mouth, I never assumed OP was at his worst or not. My points have been direct to you, challenging you. For some reason you appear to have taken on board some need for a modification of your original post. Which is great Ella if you wanted to challenge me or anyone else would it not be better to do it via pm as opposed to on this guys thred? I don't think seeing folk being 'challenged' is gonna help his cause tbh. Anyhow this isn't about point scoring, it's about this dude who feels he's depressed I hope he gets the help he needs or snaps out of it on his own." No m1cks, I challenge in public to help anyone reading understand the potential negative impact of your statement and recognise the importance of seeking qualified support alongside finding what works for them as an individual to combat their issue. (As per my original comments in response to OP at top of thread). It's the longevity of your public statement being written without challenge that concerns me. You're entirely missing my point if you think I would achieve what I held important by taking it to PM. I'm not point scoring. This is a subject that I feel strongly about and to think I would be interested in point scoring around a topic like this is way off the mark as to who I am as a person. It says more about you, than I. | |||
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"My advise was to the OP not to the masses he can take it or it ignore it, I don't feel folk negating things and assuming the OP is at their worst is going to help. OP first and formost contact a medical professional. Secondly remain optimistic stay positive you can and will beat this. Chin up. Thank you for modifying your comment to include seeking qualified clinical advice. That's all I was seeking, ultimately. I merely used extrapolation to a worst case to try and cause a rethink of your initial comment. Don't put words in my mouth, I never assumed OP was at his worst or not. My points have been direct to you, challenging you. For some reason you appear to have taken on board some need for a modification of your original post. Which is great Ella if you wanted to challenge me or anyone else would it not be better to do it via pm as opposed to on this guys thred? I don't think seeing folk being 'challenged' is gonna help his cause tbh. Anyhow this isn't about point scoring, it's about this dude who feels he's depressed I hope he gets the help he needs or snaps out of it on his own. No m1cks, I challenge in public to help anyone reading understand the potential negative impact of your statement and recognise the importance of seeking qualified support alongside finding what works for them as an individual to combat their issue. (As per my original comments in response to OP at top of thread). It's the longevity of your public statement being written without challenge that concerns me. You're entirely missing my point if you think I would achieve what I held important by taking it to PM. I'm not point scoring. This is a subject that I feel strongly about and to think I would be interested in point scoring around a topic like this is way off the mark as to who I am as a person. It says more about you, than I. " Now you've just hijacked this dudes thred and made it about you fs. | |||
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"My advise was to the OP not to the masses he can take it or it ignore it, I don't feel folk negating things and assuming the OP is at their worst is going to help. OP first and formost contact a medical professional. Secondly remain optimistic stay positive you can and will beat this. Chin up. Thank you for modifying your comment to include seeking qualified clinical advice. That's all I was seeking, ultimately. I merely used extrapolation to a worst case to try and cause a rethink of your initial comment. Don't put words in my mouth, I never assumed OP was at his worst or not. My points have been direct to you, challenging you. For some reason you appear to have taken on board some need for a modification of your original post. Which is great Ella if you wanted to challenge me or anyone else would it not be better to do it via pm as opposed to on this guys thred? I don't think seeing folk being 'challenged' is gonna help his cause tbh. Anyhow this isn't about point scoring, it's about this dude who feels he's depressed I hope he gets the help he needs or snaps out of it on his own. No m1cks, I challenge in public to help anyone reading understand the potential negative impact of your statement and recognise the importance of seeking qualified support alongside finding what works for them as an individual to combat their issue. (As per my original comments in response to OP at top of thread). It's the longevity of your public statement being written without challenge that concerns me. You're entirely missing my point if you think I would achieve what I held important by taking it to PM. I'm not point scoring. This is a subject that I feel strongly about and to think I would be interested in point scoring around a topic like this is way off the mark as to who I am as a person. It says more about you, than I. Now you've just hijacked this dudes thred and made it about you fs. " Man up m1cks, move on. | |||
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"m1cks, I'm pretty appalled at your need to trivialise someone else's experience in this way. At the very least (whatever your personal views) can you not think about the potential impact that kind of flippancy could have? Suicide is a real thing whether you believe in depression as a cause or not. You never know where somebody is / how somebody is when they read that kind of negating of their experience type of drivel. You should have passed this by. I though you were more compassionate than that. " My Nana suffered with depression even from an early age, when it got worse after a med change my uncle said to her depression isnt real and trivialised it, 2days later she committed suicide! | |||
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"m1cks, I'm pretty appalled at your need to trivialise someone else's experience in this way. At the very least (whatever your personal views) can you not think about the potential impact that kind of flippancy could have? Suicide is a real thing whether you believe in depression as a cause or not. You never know where somebody is / how somebody is when they read that kind of negating of their experience type of drivel. You should have passed this by. I though you were more compassionate than that. My Nana suffered with depression even from an early age, when it got worse after a med change my uncle said to her depression isnt real and trivialised it, 2days later she committed suicide! " I'm sorry for your loss. X | |||
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"m1cks, I'm pretty appalled at your need to trivialise someone else's experience in this way. At the very least (whatever your personal views) can you not think about the potential impact that kind of flippancy could have? Suicide is a real thing whether you believe in depression as a cause or not. You never know where somebody is / how somebody is when they read that kind of negating of their experience type of drivel. You should have passed this by. I though you were more compassionate than that. My Nana suffered with depression even from an early age, when it got worse after a med change my uncle said to her depression isnt real and trivialised it, 2days later she committed suicide! I'm sorry for your loss. X" Thank you, just wanted to highlight jusy how very real it is when people dismiss depression, i believe I was born with MDD same as her and that its just how the brain is made up! | |||
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"m1cks, I'm pretty appalled at your need to trivialise someone else's experience in this way. At the very least (whatever your personal views) can you not think about the potential impact that kind of flippancy could have? Suicide is a real thing whether you believe in depression as a cause or not. You never know where somebody is / how somebody is when they read that kind of negating of their experience type of drivel. You should have passed this by. I though you were more compassionate than that. My Nana suffered with depression even from an early age, when it got worse after a med change my uncle said to her depression isnt real and trivialised it, 2days later she committed suicide! I'm sorry for your loss. X Thank you, just wanted to highlight jusy how very real it is when people dismiss depression, i believe I was born with MDD same as her and that its just how the brain is made up! " This was exactly my point, and why I found it irresponsible posting, IMO, and wanted to challenge it rather than leave it to be read without further debate. | |||
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"m1cks, I'm pretty appalled at your need to trivialise someone else's experience in this way. At the very least (whatever your personal views) can you not think about the potential impact that kind of flippancy could have? Suicide is a real thing whether you believe in depression as a cause or not. You never know where somebody is / how somebody is when they read that kind of negating of their experience type of drivel. You should have passed this by. I though you were more compassionate than that. My Nana suffered with depression even from an early age, when it got worse after a med change my uncle said to her depression isnt real and trivialised it, 2days later she committed suicide! I'm sorry for your loss. X Thank you, just wanted to highlight jusy how very real it is when people dismiss depression, i believe I was born with MDD same as her and that its just how the brain is made up! This was exactly my point, and why I found it irresponsible posting, IMO, and wanted to challenge it rather than leave it to be read without further debate. " I know, some dont realise just how irresponsible words can be and how much they can hurt if you arent able to think rationally at that time. Your words and my experience of it happening hopefully stand out to others with this view and make them think twice. X | |||
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