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"Ffs sick of it all, keep religion private....at home and out of my breathing space.. " Well said. | |||
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"I don't like Islam, but thats not the same as disliking Muslims. I don't like any of the religions though, especially the abrahamic ones. I'd be interested to know what the actual fuck "British values" are though? Invading other countries and nicking all their stuff? "No, you see, its alright if WE do it. | |||
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"I don't like Islam, but thats not the same as disliking Muslims. I don't like any of the religions though, especially the abrahamic ones. I'd be interested to know what the actual fuck "British values" are though? Invading other countries and nicking all their stuff? "Damn straight | |||
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". Islam is, as all other religions, intrinsically one of peace. " Clearly you've never read a holy book | |||
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"Whats your views? Does it exist? Have you or anyone you know got it ? Do you think its irrational to have it or do you think its justified? "No i have Terroristphobia, a lot just happen to come from Islam. If that means they get tarred or treated differently to save British people well unfortunately that is a price they will pay for moving to our country. | |||
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"This is to serious and heavy for a Friday night "Well in that case. Fancy a shag? | |||
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"Always makes me laugh to see people quick to bash Christianity (often rightly), but then so quick and eager to lick the shoes of any Muslim." if that's aimed at me i couldn't give a fuck about any religions. i can see the good and bad points in all of them. satansim is my favourite. | |||
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"Whats your views? Does it exist? Have you or anyone you know got it ? Do you think its irrational to have it or do you think its justified? No i have Terroristphobia, a lot just happen to come from Islam. If that means they get tarred or treated differently to save British people well unfortunately that is a price they will pay for moving to our country. "Except the latest one was born here and converted to Islam as an adult. The problem isn't with religion it is with people taking it to extremes and warping it to match their twisted minds. | |||
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"Whats your views? Does it exist? Have you or anyone you know got it ? Do you think its irrational to have it or do you think its justified? No i have Terroristphobia, a lot just happen to come from Islam. If that means they get tarred or treated differently to save British people well unfortunately that is a price they will pay for moving to our country.
Except the latest one was born here and converted to Islam as an adult.
The problem isn't with religion it is with people taking it to extremes and warping it to match their twisted minds."ppfft Religion causes more wars than anything. It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist. | |||
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"Ffs sick of it all, keep religion private....at home and out of my breathing space.. " I hope you're including atheists in this too. | |||
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"It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist." or ignostic. | |||
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"Whats your views? Does it exist? Have you or anyone you know got it ? Do you think its irrational to have it or do you think its justified? No i have Terroristphobia, a lot just happen to come from Islam. If that means they get tarred or treated differently to save British people well unfortunately that is a price they will pay for moving to our country.
Except the latest one was born here and converted to Islam as an adult.
The problem isn't with religion it is with people taking it to extremes and warping it to match their twisted minds. ppfft Religion causes more wars than anything. It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist."Isn't that 'taking it to extremes and twisting it to match their twisted minds' ?? | |||
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Fancy a shag? "That's more like it,I come on here for a break from serious stuff!  | |||
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"It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist. or ignostic." You mean Agnostic, can't stand them sitting on the fence fuckers, just make your mind up. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else " Cool..if you say so dude. I would like to get back to the shagging part other folks mentioned.... | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else " What a load of arse. Tolernce is a thing that has been fought for by the population, in spite of christianity. | |||
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"Whats your views? Does it exist? Have you or anyone you know got it ? Do you think its irrational to have it or do you think its justified? No i have Terroristphobia, a lot just happen to come from Islam. If that means they get tarred or treated differently to save British people well unfortunately that is a price they will pay for moving to our country.
Except the latest one was born here and converted to Islam as an adult.
The problem isn't with religion it is with people taking it to extremes and warping it to match their twisted minds. ppfft Religion causes more wars than anything. It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist.
Isn't that 'taking it to extremes and twisting it to match their twisted minds' ??"No it's just history, Religion is the main cause of most wars. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else " Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Cool..if you say so dude. I would like to get back to the shagging part other folks mentioned...." Dude?  | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it." Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else " Hilarious view of a religion..... | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! " You have to take your shoes off, and cover your head. But then you do in most religious places. Just not churches for some reason. | |||
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" Except the latest one was born here and converted to Islam as an adult. The problem isn't with religion it is with people taking it to extremes and warping it to match their twisted minds. ppfft Religion causes more wars than anything. It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist. Isn't that 'taking it to extremes and twisting it to match their twisted minds' ?? No it's just history, Religion is the main cause of most wars." If you're not religious fine. I'm not, but am happy for other people to do as they wish, so long as they aren't harming others. Your intolerance of people wanting to follow their beliefs is harsher than what you are arguing against. WW1 and WW2 weren't religious wars and many others in modern history weren't. Many religious wars from ancient history exist of course. | |||
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"It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist. or ignostic. You mean Agnostic, can't stand them sitting on the fence fuckers, just make your mind up." ignostic is a thing. it means it's not even worth discussing. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! " try doing a ouija board in a church, or any other 'witchcraft', one and see if they chuck you out. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! " Try denying transubstantiation in sixteenth century France.... | |||
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" Except the latest one was born here and converted to Islam as an adult. The problem isn't with religion it is with people taking it to extremes and warping it to match their twisted minds. ppfft Religion causes more wars than anything. It is all a load of shite anyway anybody who is educated is normally an atheist. Isn't that 'taking it to extremes and twisting it to match their twisted minds' ?? No it's just history, Religion is the main cause of most wars. If you're not religious fine. I'm not, but am happy for other people to do as they wish, so long as they aren't harming others. Your intolerance of people wanting to follow their beliefs is harsher than what you are arguing against. WW1 and WW2 weren't religious wars and many others in modern history weren't. Many religious wars from ancient history exist of course." I said most not all, most of the trouble with Palestine etc religious, IRA religious. Their beliefs have been crushed by science anyway. | |||
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" satansim is my favourite." Interesting, it's mine. Curious to know what you know of it. No, Anton LaVey and Alastair Crowley are not satanists, they're hacks. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it." The bible or the old testment? Quick test what is the only commandment given by christ for christians. | |||
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" satansim is my favourite. Interesting, it's mine. Curious to know what you know of it. No, Anton LaVey and Alastair Crowley are not satanists, they're hacks." Alistair Crowley was not a hack. He was also not a Satanist and would be the first to correct anyone who said so. He was a Thelemite. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! " Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room" | |||
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" satansim is my favourite. Interesting, it's mine. Curious to know what you know of it. No, Anton LaVey and Alastair Crowley are not satanists, they're hacks." not that much really, i just like their commandments. | |||
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"Having personally suffered needless violence as a child by thoroughly evil nuns in a Catholic Primary school, I dismiss the idea that Christianity is a particularly tolerant religion. " Im sorry for the ill treatment that you endured, but surely that was down to the individual sadism of the nuns,not the religion itself? | |||
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" satansim is my favourite. Interesting, it's mine. Curious to know what you know of it. No, Anton LaVey and Alastair Crowley are not satanists, they're hacks. Alistair Crowley was not a hack. He was also not a Satanist and would be the first to correct anyone who said so. He was a Thelemite." He was indeed a hack barely making any use of ancient sources. People mainly know him just for his written work on sex magick. Not the kind of convo I can have on a phone right now but the O9A have written scorching criticisms of both LaVey and Crowley. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room"" Your a man,and you know a woman wouldn't have been asked, excuse me | |||
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" satansim is my favourite. Interesting, it's mine. Curious to know what you know of it. No, Anton LaVey and Alastair Crowley are not satanists, they're hacks. Alistair Crowley was not a hack. He was also not a Satanist and would be the first to correct anyone who said so. He was a Thelemite. He was indeed a hack barely making any use of ancient sources. People mainly know him just for his written work on sex magick. Not the kind of convo I can have on a phone right now but the O9A have written scorching criticisms of both LaVey and Crowley." A satanic group writing articles against other religious groups? I am sure that's as objective as some of the Fab members opinions of Islam. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room" Your a man,and you know a woman wouldn't have been asked, excuse me " Where exactly do you think Islamic women worship then? At mosques. | |||
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"I work with two muslims. They hate ISIS and radical islamists with a vengeance. They are two great guys." I'm Christian and hate radical Christians. You know, the type that cause terror or protest outside family planning clinics. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! " When visiting Catholic Churches in Florence I had to cover my shoulders - what's the difference ? | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room" Your a man,and you know a woman wouldn't have been asked, excuse me Where exactly do you think Islamic women worship then? At mosques." Are they next to their husband and son's? | |||
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"I work with two muslims. They hate ISIS and radical islamists with a vengeance. They are two great guys. I'm Christian and hate radical Christians. You know, the type that cause terror or protest outside family planning clinics." Cos that's the same as driving a truck through a bunch of people and children or beheading soldiers in the street  | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room" Your a man,and you know a woman wouldn't have been asked, excuse me Where exactly do you think Islamic women worship then? At mosques. Are they next to their husband and son's? " No, but then neither did Christians until relatively recently. Islam is 800 years younger then Christianity and Judaism is even older, so they have a bit of catching up to do. I am sure however your objections have nothing to do with the treatment of women. You just get your knee jerk reactions from what you read in the media, without actually investigating further. Personally I think we should all go back to 11th century Cordoba, when all three Abrahamic faiths worked together to enable some of the largest philosophical and scientific strides forward ever. But Christianity buggered that up. | |||
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"It may be argued that other religions share some of these ridiculous traits, and when I read of some Jehovah's Witnesses or Baptists mowing down innocent civilians in the name of their own particular invisible being, I'll concede that all religion is as evil as Islam in the 21st century. "Religion of Peace" my arse." Not JW or Baptists specifically, but various Christians: - Anti-balaka groups in Africa - National Liberation Front of Tripura - Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland - Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres - Sabra and Shatila massacre - The Lord's Resistance Army - Army of God - Christ's Lambs - Centennial Olympic Park bombing - The Covenant - The Sword - Arm of the Lord (CSA) - Defensive Action - Montana Freemen - The Hutaree Christian militia movement - Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting I mean, I'm Christian (as I said above). But we've got our own fair share of awful extremists who are prepared to murder and indeed massacre in God's name. So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks. | |||
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"I work with two muslims. They hate ISIS and radical islamists with a vengeance. They are two great guys. I'm Christian and hate radical Christians. You know, the type that cause terror or protest outside family planning clinics. Cos that's the same as driving a truck through a bunch of people and children or beheading soldiers in the street "Massacres are massacres. Doesn't matter if they're done by a truck or a gun or a bomb. | |||
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"So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks." How about we just fear insane wackos? I have more problem with them than the Pakistani down the next street. | |||
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"So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks. How about we just fear insane wackos? I have more problem with them than the Pakistani down the next street." I agree. I can't fear someone because of their faith. But I can fear someone because they have radical views and intention to harm others. | |||
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"I don't like Islam, but thats not the same as disliking Muslims. I don't like any of the religions though, especially the abrahamic ones. I'd be interested to know what the actual fuck "British values" are though? Invading other countries and nicking all their stuff?
No, you see, its alright if WE do it."That's my understanding too. Except, I don't get to qualify as part of the 'WE' because of my funny name and permanent tan. OP, no, I do not fear Muslims or Islam. Some of the most generous and compassionate people I have met are practising Muslims. Any rude people that happen to be Muslims tend to be that way because they are rude idiots not because of the religion that are associated with. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room" Your a man,and you know a woman wouldn't have been asked, excuse me Where exactly do you think Islamic women worship then? At mosques. Are they next to their husband and son's? No, but then neither did Christians until relatively recently. Islam is 800 years younger then Christianity and Judaism is even older, so they have a bit of catching up to do. I am sure however your objections have nothing to do with the treatment of women. You just get your knee jerk reactions from what you read in the media, without actually investigating further. Personally I think we should all go back to 11th century Cordoba, when all three Abrahamic faiths worked together to enable some of the largest philosophical and scientific strides forward ever. But Christianity buggered that up." Of course there not, but you try and bluster over that, again!, with a torrent of justification so you can have the last word, doesn't make you right though | |||
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"I work with two muslims. They hate ISIS and radical islamists with a vengeance. They are two great guys. I'm Christian and hate radical Christians. You know, the type that cause terror or protest outside family planning clinics. Cos that's the same as driving a truck through a bunch of people and children or beheading soldiers in the street
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room" Your a man,and you know a woman wouldn't have been asked, excuse me Where exactly do you think Islamic women worship then? At mosques. Are they next to their husband and son's? No, but then neither did Christians until relatively recently. Islam is 800 years younger then Christianity and Judaism is even older, so they have a bit of catching up to do. I am sure however your objections have nothing to do with the treatment of women. You just get your knee jerk reactions from what you read in the media, without actually investigating further. Personally I think we should all go back to 11th century Cordoba, when all three Abrahamic faiths worked together to enable some of the largest philosophical and scientific strides forward ever. But Christianity buggered that up. Of course there not, but you try and bluster over that, again!, with a torrent of justification so you can have the last word, doesn't make you right though " The problem is, ever since you felt you had to tell the forums I deleted a message from you, I haven't been able to take you seriously at all. And the fact your opinions are so much recycled tabloid makes that easier. Instead of reading and believing the papers, why not research a bit? Religions are fascinating, and you might learn that their followers aren't the caricatures you've been led to believe. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! " I have been in to mosques in my everyday clothing (shoes off to enter a prayer room). My hair is always uncovered and, as can been seen from my pictures, I usually have a cleavage on show. I have always been treated with respect and deference for my knowledge. I wouldn't take a bacon sandwich into church with (it's a bread and wine type of place) so I can't see why I would even think of taking a bacon sarnie into a mosque. It's a really odd thing to suggest. | |||
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"It may be argued that other religions share some of these ridiculous traits, and when I read of some Jehovah's Witnesses or Baptists mowing down innocent civilians in the name of their own particular invisible being, I'll concede that all religion is as evil as Islam in the 21st century. "Religion of Peace" my arse. Not JW or Baptists specifically, but various Christians: - Anti-balaka groups in Africa - National Liberation Front of Tripura - Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland - Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres - Sabra and Shatila massacre - The Lord's Resistance Army - Army of God - Christ's Lambs - Centennial Olympic Park bombing - The Covenant - The Sword - Arm of the Lord (CSA) - Defensive Action - Montana Freemen - The Hutaree Christian militia movement - Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting I mean, I'm Christian (as I said above). But we've got our own fair share of awful extremists who are prepared to murder and indeed massacre in God's name. So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks." All comparatively minor and insignificant groups. It's all about perspective and numbers. However, I'm obviously not as cool and trendy as you are. I remember another post of yours from a while back where you stated that Nazi soldiers deserved respect because they were doing what they believed in. Your attitude toward Islam is comparable. | |||
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"It may be argued that other religions share some of these ridiculous traits, and when I read of some Jehovah's Witnesses or Baptists mowing down innocent civilians in the name of their own particular invisible being, I'll concede that all religion is as evil as Islam in the 21st century. "Religion of Peace" my arse. Not JW or Baptists specifically, but various Christians: - Anti-balaka groups in Africa - National Liberation Front of Tripura - Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland - Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres - Sabra and Shatila massacre - The Lord's Resistance Army - Army of God - Christ's Lambs - Centennial Olympic Park bombing - The Covenant - The Sword - Arm of the Lord (CSA) - Defensive Action - Montana Freemen - The Hutaree Christian militia movement - Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting I mean, I'm Christian (as I said above). But we've got our own fair share of awful extremists who are prepared to murder and indeed massacre in God's name. So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks. All comparatively minor and insignificant groups. It's all about perspective and numbers. However, I'm obviously not as cool and trendy as you are. I remember another post of yours from a while back where you stated that Nazi soldiers deserved respect because they were doing what they believed in. Your attitude toward Islam is comparable." Muslims have killed comparatively few in terror attacks. IIRC, more white British people have killed British people than Muslims in terror attacks. The IRA, for example, murdered over 1800 civilians and security forces. Between 2010-2015, only 2% of terrorist incidents in Europe were committed by Muslims. Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his 'pro-Christian' stance. Between 1980-2005, 42% of terrorist attacks in the US were committed by Latinos. Not muslims. 24% were committed by the extreme left. In 2013 you were more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist in the US. The chances of being harmed by a Muslim must be miniscule. 16% of all violent crime in the UK is thought to be domestic violence. The main perpetrators of DV are male. A woman is killed at the hands of her male partner approximately every 4 days in Britain. Around 80 deaths a year. When we will call for all men to be deported? They are one of the biggest safety risks to women... | |||
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"You know Jewish people don't eat pork either... so would you offend jews by eating pork? This whole pork hating muslims is a myth... they don't eat it because they see at as an unclean animal but... they don't hate pigs it's still gods creation in their eyes... I have plenty of Muslim friends and I've actually asked and talked about certain issues but if you speak to someone who actually has some knowledge they will answer you're questions Worst thing people do is speak as they have so much knowledge on a topic and you can just tell it's right wing propaganda " My sisters ex is a Muslim and he knows loads of Muslims who eat bacon. And drink. hell, there are Muslims, Christians, and Jews on here who all engage in extra marital sex. I'm not sure why Muslims are held to a higher standard than anyone else on here but it seems odd for a Christian to be so combative about it, when they're on a swinging site. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! I have been in to mosques in my everyday clothing (shoes off to enter a prayer room). My hair is always uncovered and, as can been seen from my pictures, I usually have a cleavage on show. I have always been treated with respect and deference for my knowledge. I wouldn't take a bacon sandwich into church with (it's a bread and wine type of place) so I can't see why I would even think of taking a bacon sarnie into a mosque. It's a really odd thing to suggest. Were you allowed to pray alongside male Muslims? You know Jewish people don't eat pork either... so would you offend jews by eating pork? This whole pork hating muslims is a myth... they don't eat it because they see at as an unclean animal but... they don't hate pigs it's still gods creation in their eyes... I have plenty of Muslim friends and I've actually asked and talked about certain issues but if you speak to someone who actually has some knowledge they will answer you're questions Worst thing people do is speak as they have so much knowledge on a topic and you can just tell it's right wing propaganda " Thanks for that bollocks,the statement went to the fact, see how tolerant a mosque would be of anyone or thing that would not be considered offensive in a christian building | |||
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"It may be argued that other religions share some of these ridiculous traits, and when I read of some Jehovah's Witnesses or Baptists mowing down innocent civilians in the name of their own particular invisible being, I'll concede that all religion is as evil as Islam in the 21st century. "Religion of Peace" my arse. Not JW or Baptists specifically, but various Christians: - Anti-balaka groups in Africa - National Liberation Front of Tripura - Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland - Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres - Sabra and Shatila massacre - The Lord's Resistance Army - Army of God - Christ's Lambs - Centennial Olympic Park bombing - The Covenant - The Sword - Arm of the Lord (CSA) - Defensive Action - Montana Freemen - The Hutaree Christian militia movement - Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting I mean, I'm Christian (as I said above). But we've got our own fair share of awful extremists who are prepared to murder and indeed massacre in God's name. So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks. All comparatively minor and insignificant groups. It's all about perspective and numbers. However, I'm obviously not as cool and trendy as you are. I remember another post of yours from a while back where you stated that Nazi soldiers deserved respect because they were doing what they believed in. Your attitude toward Islam is comparable. Muslims have killed comparatively few in terror attacks. IIRC, more white British people have killed British people than Muslims in terror attacks. The IRA, for example, murdered over 1800 civilians and security forces. Between 2010-2015, only 2% of terrorist incidents in Europe were committed by Muslims. Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his 'pro-Christian' stance. Between 1980-2005, 42% of terrorist attacks in the US were committed by Latinos. Not muslims. 24% were committed by the extreme left. In 2013 you were more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist in the US. The chances of being harmed by a Muslim must be miniscule. 16% of all violent crime in the UK is thought to be domestic violence. The main perpetrators of DV are male. A woman is killed at the hands of her male partner approximately every 4 days in Britain. Around 80 deaths a year. When we will call for all men to be deported? They are one of the biggest safety risks to women..." That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world " What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! I have been in to mosques in my everyday clothing (shoes off to enter a prayer room). My hair is always uncovered and, as can been seen from my pictures, I usually have a cleavage on show. I have always been treated with respect and deference for my knowledge. I wouldn't take a bacon sandwich into church with (it's a bread and wine type of place) so I can't see why I would even think of taking a bacon sarnie into a mosque. It's a really odd thing to suggest. Were you allowed to pray alongside male Muslims? You know Jewish people don't eat pork either... so would you offend jews by eating pork? This whole pork hating muslims is a myth... they don't eat it because they see at as an unclean animal but... they don't hate pigs it's still gods creation in their eyes... I have plenty of Muslim friends and I've actually asked and talked about certain issues but if you speak to someone who actually has some knowledge they will answer you're questions Worst thing people do is speak as they have so much knowledge on a topic and you can just tell it's right wing propaganda Thanks for that bollocks,the statement went to the fact, see how tolerant a mosque would be of anyone or thing that would not be considered offensive in a christian building " You are talking absolute tripe... you're being intolerant to people who choose to follow a faith they want to from a personal choice... have you ever set in foot inside a mosque? I doubt it.. or have you ever been to church unless it's a wedding or a christening? If you entered someone's home and they told you to take you're shoes off as they have a clean carpet would you think they are being in tolerant | |||
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"It may be argued that other religions share some of these ridiculous traits, and when I read of some Jehovah's Witnesses or Baptists mowing down innocent civilians in the name of their own particular invisible being, I'll concede that all religion is as evil as Islam in the 21st century. "Religion of Peace" my arse. Not JW or Baptists specifically, but various Christians: - Anti-balaka groups in Africa - National Liberation Front of Tripura - Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland - Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres - Sabra and Shatila massacre - The Lord's Resistance Army - Army of God - Christ's Lambs - Centennial Olympic Park bombing - The Covenant - The Sword - Arm of the Lord (CSA) - Defensive Action - Montana Freemen - The Hutaree Christian militia movement - Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting I mean, I'm Christian (as I said above). But we've got our own fair share of awful extremists who are prepared to murder and indeed massacre in God's name. So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks. All comparatively minor and insignificant groups. It's all about perspective and numbers. However, I'm obviously not as cool and trendy as you are. I remember another post of yours from a while back where you stated that Nazi soldiers deserved respect because they were doing what they believed in. Your attitude toward Islam is comparable. Muslims have killed comparatively few in terror attacks. IIRC, more white British people have killed British people than Muslims in terror attacks. The IRA, for example, murdered over 1800 civilians and security forces. Between 2010-2015, only 2% of terrorist incidents in Europe were committed by Muslims. Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his 'pro-Christian' stance. Between 1980-2005, 42% of terrorist attacks in the US were committed by Latinos. Not muslims. 24% were committed by the extreme left. In 2013 you were more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist in the US. The chances of being harmed by a Muslim must be miniscule. 16% of all violent crime in the UK is thought to be domestic violence. The main perpetrators of DV are male. A woman is killed at the hands of her male partner approximately every 4 days in Britain. Around 80 deaths a year. When we will call for all men to be deported? They are one of the biggest safety risks to women..." Good facts, I see the extreme left weren't being that liberal then again. | |||
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"Islamophobia is defined as an irrational fear of Islam, which I think is the wrong descriptor. There's nothing irrational about fearing Islam. Muslims believe in an invisible being. They believe that their invisible being is more important than any human being. They prostrate themselves on the ground at least twice a day to show their subservience to an invisible being. They starve themselves form dusk til dawn for a month because that's what they believe this invisible being wants them to do. These are not the acts of rational human beings. It may be argued that other religions share some of these ridiculous traits, and when I read of some Jehovah's Witnesses or Baptists mowing down innocent civilians in the name of their own particular invisible being, I'll concede that all religion is as evil as Islam in the 21st century. "Religion of Peace" my arse." You see that's where you are mistaken.....you lump all Muslims as one, the reality is the majority of British born Muslims in their late teens and twenties don't attend mosque, nor do they pray. No more than the majority of British born Christians in the same age group attend church or pray to Jesus before they go to bed at night. It's your fear of Islam that dictates your thinking, fear clouds your vision. | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people?" We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! Ive done the latter the outcome was "excuse me but could you take your shoes off if you want to use the prayer room" Your a man,and you know a woman wouldn't have been asked, excuse me " They would have been told the same and directed to wards the womans prayer room | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway " Although domestic violence is a problem for men too, more women die at the hands of men via domestic violence than men at the hands of women, if purely down to the difference in strength. We're singling out women because its still going on, in the 21st century, 100 years after female emancipation. And its wrong. Do try not to take this personally. Her figures are correct. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! I have been in to mosques in my everyday clothing (shoes off to enter a prayer room). My hair is always uncovered and, as can been seen from my pictures, I usually have a cleavage on show. I have always been treated with respect and deference for my knowledge. I wouldn't take a bacon sandwich into church with (it's a bread and wine type of place) so I can't see why I would even think of taking a bacon sarnie into a mosque. It's a really odd thing to suggest. Were you allowed to pray alongside male Muslims?" I am not a Muslim. Charedi Jews don't allow men and women to pray together in the same prayer hall. There are still some Christian churches where the congregation splits. It doesn't make sense to me but it does to them. I hope in time that it will change. However, I have prayed at interfaith/ecumenical events with Muslims and Jews and Christians. | |||
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"It may be argued that other religions share some of these ridiculous traits, and when I read of some Jehovah's Witnesses or Baptists mowing down innocent civilians in the name of their own particular invisible being, I'll concede that all religion is as evil as Islam in the 21st century. "Religion of Peace" my arse. Not JW or Baptists specifically, but various Christians: - Anti-balaka groups in Africa - National Liberation Front of Tripura - Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland - Karantina and Tel al-Zaatar massacres - Sabra and Shatila massacre - The Lord's Resistance Army - Army of God - Christ's Lambs - Centennial Olympic Park bombing - The Covenant - The Sword - Arm of the Lord (CSA) - Defensive Action - Montana Freemen - The Hutaree Christian militia movement - Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting I mean, I'm Christian (as I said above). But we've got our own fair share of awful extremists who are prepared to murder and indeed massacre in God's name. So... if you could stop fearing those who follow Islam specifically and also fear all Christians - that would be cool. Thanks. All comparatively minor and insignificant groups. It's all about perspective and numbers. However, I'm obviously not as cool and trendy as you are. I remember another post of yours from a while back where you stated that Nazi soldiers deserved respect because they were doing what they believed in. Your attitude toward Islam is comparable. Muslims have killed comparatively few in terror attacks. IIRC, more white British people have killed British people than Muslims in terror attacks. The IRA, for example, murdered over 1800 civilians and security forces. Between 2010-2015, only 2% of terrorist incidents in Europe were committed by Muslims. Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his 'pro-Christian' stance. Between 1980-2005, 42% of terrorist attacks in the US were committed by Latinos. Not muslims. 24% were committed by the extreme left. In 2013 you were more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist in the US. The chances of being harmed by a Muslim must be miniscule. 16% of all violent crime in the UK is thought to be domestic violence. The main perpetrators of DV are male. A woman is killed at the hands of her male partner approximately every 4 days in Britain. Around 80 deaths a year. When we will call for all men to be deported? They are one of the biggest safety risks to women... Good facts, I see the extreme left weren't being that liberal then again. The extreme left isn't liberal. Anything with the word 'extreme' in can't be liberal. Its an oxymoron. Yeah it's contradictory but I bet most of them identified as liberal that is the hypocrisy." You really don't like liberals, do you? | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! I have been in to mosques in my everyday clothing (shoes off to enter a prayer room). My hair is always uncovered and, as can been seen from my pictures, I usually have a cleavage on show. I have always been treated with respect and deference for my knowledge. I wouldn't take a bacon sandwich into church with (it's a bread and wine type of place) so I can't see why I would even think of taking a bacon sarnie into a mosque. It's a really odd thing to suggest. Were you allowed to pray alongside male Muslims? I don't think Lickety is a Muslim. Although she is brown so I can see why some people might make that assumption. "It's amazing how often it happens... just because of my colour, I assume. | |||
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It's amazing how often it happens... just because of my colour, I assume."I remember that post a year or so ago where they accused you of being a radical Muslim. My point about people being indiscriminately prejudiced against brown people stands on this site sometimes. | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people?" I don't think it's as simple as that. These 'minority incidents' are flamed by speculation but are designed (if they pull it off correctly) to maim / kill in numbers, to affect & shaken our daily normality....a teacher, a tourist, someone retired, everyday people. I have no idea on the murder stats so you're probably correct & it makes horrible reading but overall it doesn't seem to have the same impact for me as this 'minority incident'... | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway Although domestic violence is a problem for men too, more women die at the hands of men via domestic violence than men at the hands of women, if purely down to the difference in strength. We're singling out women because its still going on, in the 21st century, 100 years after female emancipation. And its wrong. Do try not to take this personally. Her figures are correct." Her figure are completely wrong and are very much a fraction of what they should be but I'm not one for putting figures up,I'm not taking it personal at all I work a lot with WOMEN and MEN who suffer domestic violence as part of a group in my home town and yes it shouldn't be happening at all by both party's male and women at all,it's not about stregth at all cos most domestic abuse involve object | |||
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"Good facts, I see the extreme left weren't being that liberal then again. The extreme left isn't liberal. Anything with the word 'extreme' in can't be liberal. Its an oxymoron. Yeah it's contradictory but I bet most of them identified as liberal that is the hypocrisy. You really don't like liberals, do you? No because a lot are hypocrites, just like them facts are showing."Yes, some liberals exhibit hypocrisy. But they're not the only ones. | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else Have you ever read the Bible? It's horrific. And I don't recall Henry VIII being that tolerant of other religions. Or his daughters. I am very thankful that, as a woman, I was born in modern day Britain, where I am not considered a chattel, or a whore if I sin. But just because C of E has degenerated to a religion of church fayres and afternoon tea doesn't make it any more tolerant than other religions. They're just quieter about it. Go on then, try and carry a bacon sandwich into a mosque, in fact, try and walk into a mosque in your every day clothing, see what happens! I have been in to mosques in my everyday clothing (shoes off to enter a prayer room). My hair is always uncovered and, as can been seen from my pictures, I usually have a cleavage on show. I have always been treated with respect and deference for my knowledge. I wouldn't take a bacon sandwich into church with (it's a bread and wine type of place) so I can't see why I would even think of taking a bacon sarnie into a mosque. It's a really odd thing to suggest. Were you allowed to pray alongside male Muslims? You know Jewish people don't eat pork either... so would you offend jews by eating pork? This whole pork hating muslims is a myth... they don't eat it because they see at as an unclean animal but... they don't hate pigs it's still gods creation in their eyes... I have plenty of Muslim friends and I've actually asked and talked about certain issues but if you speak to someone who actually has some knowledge they will answer you're questions Worst thing people do is speak as they have so much knowledge on a topic and you can just tell it's right wing propaganda Thanks for that bollocks,the statement went to the fact, see how tolerant a mosque would be of anyone or thing that would not be considered offensive in a christian building " How many Christian sects are there? Are they all the same? Do you actually just mean CofE when you keep referring to Christian? | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway Although domestic violence is a problem for men too, more women die at the hands of men via domestic violence than men at the hands of women, if purely down to the difference in strength. We're singling out women because its still going on, in the 21st century, 100 years after female emancipation. And its wrong. Do try not to take this personally. Her figures are correct. Her figure are completely wrong and are very much a fraction of what they should be but I'm not one for putting figures up,I'm not taking it personal at all I work a lot with WOMEN and MEN who suffer domestic violence as part of a group in my home town and yes it shouldn't be happening at all by both party's male and women at all,it's not about stregth at all cos most domestic abuse involve object " OK OK, if it will make you feel better, men suffer equally from death by DV as women. Better now? | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway Although domestic violence is a problem for men too, more women die at the hands of men via domestic violence than men at the hands of women, if purely down to the difference in strength. We're singling out women because its still going on, in the 21st century, 100 years after female emancipation. And its wrong. Do try not to take this personally. Her figures are correct. Her figure are completely wrong and are very much a fraction of what they should be but I'm not one for putting figures up,I'm not taking it personal at all I work a lot with WOMEN and MEN who suffer domestic violence as part of a group in my home town and yes it shouldn't be happening at all by both party's male and women at all,it's not about stregth at all cos most domestic abuse involve object OK OK, if it will make you feel better, men suffer equally from death by DV as women. Better now?" I'm not asking for you to agree with me I'm just making the point that the lady's stats are wrong that all and are on her part are one sided that all | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway " More men are killed overall... largely by other men. Her facts on DV deaths are spot on. I have never read a domestic homicide review where the perpetrator was a woman (there may be one but it would be so exceptional it would have been big news). | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on "Yeah, I just saw that pic. And they managed to level the middle of Manchester too. But because they were Christians I suspect they'll get a free pass from some of the people on here. | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway Although domestic violence is a problem for men too, more women die at the hands of men via domestic violence than men at the hands of women, if purely down to the difference in strength. We're singling out women because its still going on, in the 21st century, 100 years after female emancipation. And its wrong. Do try not to take this personally. Her figures are correct. Her figure are completely wrong and are very much a fraction of what they should be but I'm not one for putting figures up,I'm not taking it personal at all I work a lot with WOMEN and MEN who suffer domestic violence as part of a group in my home town and yes it shouldn't be happening at all by both party's male and women at all,it's not about stregth at all cos most domestic abuse involve object OK OK, if it will make you feel better, men suffer equally from death by DV as women. Better now?" Do you have to be so patronising over absolutely everything? For goodness sake let someone else have an opinion without trying to prove them wrong or belittle them Obviously you have to have the final word so enjoy it,bored with your nonsense now | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway Although domestic violence is a problem for men too, more women die at the hands of men via domestic violence than men at the hands of women, if purely down to the difference in strength. We're singling out women because its still going on, in the 21st century, 100 years after female emancipation. And its wrong. Do try not to take this personally. Her figures are correct. Her figure are completely wrong and are very much a fraction of what they should be but I'm not one for putting figures up,I'm not taking it personal at all I work a lot with WOMEN and MEN who suffer domestic violence as part of a group in my home town and yes it shouldn't be happening at all by both party's male and women at all,it's not about stregth at all cos most domestic abuse involve object OK OK, if it will make you feel better, men suffer equally from death by DV as women. Better now? Do you have to be so patronising over absolutely everything? For goodness sake let someone else have an opinion without trying to prove them wrong or belittle them Obviously you have to have the final word so enjoy it,bored with your nonsense now " I have as much right as you to post on here. And the guy I replied to responded with grace, which is more than you do. If you don't like me, don't engage me. Simple. | |||
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" That's sexiest an by no means true at all and can I say the reason the terroriests don't kill more people is because we the UK have exceptional police forces,border agency's (like me ha ha) as well as other agency keeping us the people of the U.K. Relatively safe compared to other parts of the world What's sexist? Is it sexist to say that a woman is killed every four days at the hands of her male partner? That's not sexist - it's truth. If our police are so good, why aren't they stopping men killing women? Why are they so hung up on minority incidents just because they involve some brown people? We're so you get your stats from? I can tell you this they are wrong from the stats I have seen,male or female death at the hands of a partner is not acceptable in any way shape or form,for you to single out women is poor and not jusifyable in anyway Although domestic violence is a problem for men too, more women die at the hands of men via domestic violence than men at the hands of women, if purely down to the difference in strength. We're singling out women because its still going on, in the 21st century, 100 years after female emancipation. And its wrong. Do try not to take this personally. Her figures are correct. Her figure are completely wrong and are very much a fraction of what they should be but I'm not one for putting figures up,I'm not taking it personal at all I work a lot with WOMEN and MEN who suffer domestic violence as part of a group in my home town and yes it shouldn't be happening at all by both party's male and women at all,it's not about stregth at all cos most domestic abuse involve object OK OK, if it will make you feel better, men suffer equally from death by DV as women. Better now?" Why do you feel the need to confine it to death rather than just DV? | |||
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"Were you allowed to pray alongside male Muslims? I don't think Lickety is a Muslim. Although she is brown so I can see why some people might make that assumption.
It's amazing how often it happens... just because of my colour, I assume.
I remember that post a year or so ago where they accused you of being a radical Muslim. My point about people being indiscriminately prejudiced against brown people stands on this site sometimes."Ah yes, I'd forgotten that. Me a former Sunday school teacher, wannabe nun, confirmed by two bishops in the Church of England makes me such a radical. Muslim or otherwise. 
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It's amazing how often it happens... just because of my colour, I assume.
I remember that post a year or so ago where they accused you of being a radical Muslim. My point about people being indiscriminately prejudiced against brown people stands on this site sometimes.
Ah yes, I'd forgotten that. Me a former Sunday school teacher, wannabe nun, confirmed by two bishops in the Church of England makes me such a radical. Muslim or otherwise.
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"Were you allowed to pray alongside male Muslims? I don't think Lickety is a Muslim. Although she is brown so I can see why some people might make that assumption.
It's amazing how often it happens... just because of my colour, I assume.
I remember that post a year or so ago where they accused you of being a radical Muslim. My point about people being indiscriminately prejudiced against brown people stands on this site sometimes.
Ah yes, I'd forgotten that. Me a former Sunday school teacher, wannabe nun, confirmed by two bishops in the Church of England makes me such a radical. Muslim or otherwise.
Im confused is this some kind of injoke as you look white as snow in your pics?"Really? I assure you I'm not. A whole bunch of forum folk can also attest that I am not. I even have a funny last name to prove I'm not. | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
Yeah, I just saw that pic. And they managed to level the middle of Manchester too. But because they were Christians I suspect they'll get a free pass from some of the people on here."maybe not the guys who did it, people will still hate them, but they won't tar the irish nation with the same brush, they'll know it was just some of them, but that's different, they're all white and speak our language and stuff like that, of course they're ok  | |||
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Yeah, I just saw that pic. And they managed to level the middle of Manchester too. But because they were Christians I suspect they'll get a free pass from some of the people on here.
maybe not the guys who did it, people will still hate them, but they won't tar the irish nation with the same brush, they'll know it was just some of them, but that's different, they're all white and speak our language and stuff like that, of course they're ok " | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
Yeah, I just saw that pic. And they managed to level the middle of Manchester too. But because they were Christians I suspect they'll get a free pass from some of the people on here.
maybe not the guys who did it, people will still hate them, but they won't tar the irish nation with the same brush, they'll know it was just some of them, but that's different, they're all white and speak our language and stuff like that, of course they're ok "Yep, and many like their accents (based purely on the accent threads on Fab  ). | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
I was here in London during the IRA attacks. London was being locked down on a regular basis, particularly the City with its Ring of Steel. There was discrimination against Irish people but that had existed before. We carried on. Just as we do now.
"i'm wondering if in london and the major cities the atmosphere was different? a little more tense? as perhaps in alot of major cities, but i don't remember there being such a big phobia..i don't know, i was young then (alas...to be young again!) and maybe alot of factors like social media and the speed of information and misinformation was a lot slower back then so i was more ignorant of it perhaps.. in your opinion is it comparable? the feeling toward irish people back then and the feeling of islamaphobia now? what do you reckon? you have a wise head on you | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
Yeah, I just saw that pic. And they managed to level the middle of Manchester too. But because they were Christians I suspect they'll get a free pass from some of the people on here.
maybe not the guys who did it, people will still hate them, but they won't tar the irish nation with the same brush, they'll know it was just some of them, but that's different, they're all white and speak our language and stuff like that, of course they're ok
Yep, and many like their accents (based purely on the accent threads on Fab )."a very jolly people, all wearing geen and drinking guiness merrily, not like these other ones now, all mucky coloured and they disrespect their women so we send our missles to tickle their little grand children and liberate them from their burqas. but now they're over here! oh my....... | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
I was here in London during the IRA attacks. London was being locked down on a regular basis, particularly the City with its Ring of Steel. There was discrimination against Irish people but that had existed before. We carried on. Just as we do now.
i'm wondering if in london and the major cities the atmosphere was different? a little more tense? as perhaps in alot of major cities, but i don't remember there being such a big phobia..i don't know, i was young then (alas...to be young again!) and maybe alot of factors like social media and the speed of information and misinformation was a lot slower back then so i was more ignorant of it perhaps..
in your opinion is it comparable? the feeling toward irish people back then and the feeling of islamaphobia now? what do you reckon? you have a wise head on you"Islamaphobia is much worse but I think it is about the constant news cycle and internet now. When you only got the news on the radio every hour and three times on the telly it was easier to live in a more blinkered way. Also, people found it easier to separate out the religious and country of origin aspects because it was Irish people killing Irish people too. Bringing it to the mainland was an escalation of that and brought in everyone as a clearly political message. It was organised, with warnings and statements after. IS has killed more Muslims than they have killed Christians (or any other religion) just as the IRA would end up killing some of their own, as collateral damage, but we appear not to care about the innocent Muslims killed. There are no warnings, the statements that come out now may not actually be from the organising perpetrators as it may be lone wolves trying to prove themselves in some way. Plus, it is easier to fear and be suspicious of someone who looks different. The Irish looked like everyone else. I was the one being stared at whenever there was evacuation back then as I didn't look like the majority of people on that scene. In fact, when I was evacuated from County Hall I only remember one other black person in the meeting room I was in. | |||
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It definitely exists. I know lots of people who have it, i think. But i can't work out if they are scared or racist. I think there is an awful lot of propaganda out there. I blame the media. They like to keep you scared. If you are scared you want information. It's a vicious circle. The media has always tried to get us riled up by somebody. First it was blacks, then Indians, then Polish and now muslims. Personally i would rather all religious beliefs be kept to ones self. Half of them have this quest to either push it onto others or shun (and worse) their fellow human if in disagreement with their beliefs. "That's true of all ideas, though. Vegans have posters extolling the evil of not only eating meat but also eggs and dairy. Safer sex messages are promoted, quite zealously by some. Capitalism is pushed by others. Atheists are quite vocal about not having religion anywhere and extolling their belief in science. I could go on but you get the point. I don't believe religion is the cause of the wars or terror but the excuse. | |||
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It definitely exists. I know lots of people who have it, i think. But i can't work out if they are scared or racist. I think there is an awful lot of propaganda out there. I blame the media. They like to keep you scared. If you are scared you want information. It's a vicious circle. The media has always tried to get us riled up by somebody. First it was blacks, then Indians, then Polish and now muslims. Personally i would rather all religious beliefs be kept to ones self. Half of them have this quest to either push it onto others or shun (and worse) their fellow human if in disagreement with their beliefs.
That's true of all ideas, though. Vegans have posters extolling the evil of not only eating meat but also eggs and dairy. Safer sex messages are promoted, quite zealously by some. Capitalism is pushed by others. Atheists are quite vocal about not having religion anywhere and extolling their belief in science. I could go on but you get the point. I don't believe religion is the cause of the wars or terror but the excuse.
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
I was here in London during the IRA attacks. London was being locked down on a regular basis, particularly the City with its Ring of Steel. There was discrimination against Irish people but that had existed before. We carried on. Just as we do now.
i'm wondering if in london and the major cities the atmosphere was different? a little more tense? as perhaps in alot of major cities, but i don't remember there being such a big phobia..i don't know, i was young then (alas...to be young again!) and maybe alot of factors like social media and the speed of information and misinformation was a lot slower back then so i was more ignorant of it perhaps..
in your opinion is it comparable? the feeling toward irish people back then and the feeling of islamaphobia now? what do you reckon? you have a wise head on you
Islamaphobia is much worse but I think it is about the constant news cycle and internet now. When you only got the news on the radio every hour and three times on the telly it was easier to live in a more blinkered way.
Also, people found it easier to separate out the religious and country of origin aspects because it was Irish people killing Irish people too. Bringing it to the mainland was an escalation of that and brought in everyone as a clearly political message. It was organised, with warnings and statements after.
IS has killed more Muslims than they have killed Christians (or any other religion) just as the IRA would end up killing some of their own, as collateral damage, but we appear not to care about the innocent Muslims killed. There are no warnings, the statements that come out now may not actually be from the organising perpetrators as it may be lone wolves trying to prove themselves in some way.
Plus, it is easier to fear and be suspicious of someone who looks different. The Irish looked like everyone else. I was the one being stared at whenever there was evacuation back then as I didn't look like the majority of people on that scene. In fact, when I was evacuated from County Hall I only remember one other black person in the meeting room I was in.
"so fear is more readily generated these days i feel, your never away from news now really...i mean, i joined fab to get my willy tampered with but still end up hearing about and discussing the news, it's always there and the news is geared to these kind of stories i think. i read recently that statistically we're safer now from terror attacks than 20 years ago but there seems more fear (disclaimer, i'm not sure where i read that or if indeed it is reliable) but it makes sense to me that in this age of information fear might spread far more quickly. i might fuck off and build a log cabin some place ya know...the world is a little bit hectic and crazy just now. | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
I was here in London during the IRA attacks. London was being locked down on a regular basis, particularly the City with its Ring of Steel. There was discrimination against Irish people but that had existed before. We carried on. Just as we do now.
i'm wondering if in london and the major cities the atmosphere was different? a little more tense? as perhaps in alot of major cities, but i don't remember there being such a big phobia..i don't know, i was young then (alas...to be young again!) and maybe alot of factors like social media and the speed of information and misinformation was a lot slower back then so i was more ignorant of it perhaps..
in your opinion is it comparable? the feeling toward irish people back then and the feeling of islamaphobia now? what do you reckon? you have a wise head on you
Islamaphobia is much worse but I think it is about the constant news cycle and internet now. When you only got the news on the radio every hour and three times on the telly it was easier to live in a more blinkered way.
Also, people found it easier to separate out the religious and country of origin aspects because it was Irish people killing Irish people too. Bringing it to the mainland was an escalation of that and brought in everyone as a clearly political message. It was organised, with warnings and statements after.
IS has killed more Muslims than they have killed Christians (or any other religion) just as the IRA would end up killing some of their own, as collateral damage, but we appear not to care about the innocent Muslims killed. There are no warnings, the statements that come out now may not actually be from the organising perpetrators as it may be lone wolves trying to prove themselves in some way.
Plus, it is easier to fear and be suspicious of someone who looks different. The Irish looked like everyone else. I was the one being stared at whenever there was evacuation back then as I didn't look like the majority of people on that scene. In fact, when I was evacuated from County Hall I only remember one other black person in the meeting room I was in.
so fear is more readily generated these days i feel, your never away from news now really...i mean, i joined fab to get my willy tampered with but still end up hearing about and discussing the news, it's always there and the news is geared to these kind of stories i think. i read recently that statistically we're safer now from terror attacks than 20 years ago but there seems more fear (disclaimer, i'm not sure where i read that or if indeed it is reliable) but it makes sense to me that in this age of information fear might spread far more quickly.
i might fuck off and build a log cabin some place ya know...the world is a little bit hectic and crazy just now."I'll come with you and bring the fishing rods | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
I was here in London during the IRA attacks. London was being locked down on a regular basis, particularly the City with its Ring of Steel. There was discrimination against Irish people but that had existed before. We carried on. Just as we do now.
i'm wondering if in london and the major cities the atmosphere was different? a little more tense? as perhaps in alot of major cities, but i don't remember there being such a big phobia..i don't know, i was young then (alas...to be young again!) and maybe alot of factors like social media and the speed of information and misinformation was a lot slower back then so i was more ignorant of it perhaps..
in your opinion is it comparable? the feeling toward irish people back then and the feeling of islamaphobia now? what do you reckon? you have a wise head on you
Islamaphobia is much worse but I think it is about the constant news cycle and internet now. When you only got the news on the radio every hour and three times on the telly it was easier to live in a more blinkered way.
Also, people found it easier to separate out the religious and country of origin aspects because it was Irish people killing Irish people too. Bringing it to the mainland was an escalation of that and brought in everyone as a clearly political message. It was organised, with warnings and statements after.
IS has killed more Muslims than they have killed Christians (or any other religion) just as the IRA would end up killing some of their own, as collateral damage, but we appear not to care about the innocent Muslims killed. There are no warnings, the statements that come out now may not actually be from the organising perpetrators as it may be lone wolves trying to prove themselves in some way.
Plus, it is easier to fear and be suspicious of someone who looks different. The Irish looked like everyone else. I was the one being stared at whenever there was evacuation back then as I didn't look like the majority of people on that scene. In fact, when I was evacuated from County Hall I only remember one other black person in the meeting room I was in.
so fear is more readily generated these days i feel, your never away from news now really...i mean, i joined fab to get my willy tampered with but still end up hearing about and discussing the news, it's always there and the news is geared to these kind of stories i think. i read recently that statistically we're safer now from terror attacks than 20 years ago but there seems more fear (disclaimer, i'm not sure where i read that or if indeed it is reliable) but it makes sense to me that in this age of information fear might spread far more quickly.
i might fuck off and build a log cabin some place ya know...the world is a little bit hectic and crazy just now.
I'll come with you and bring the fishing rods "we'd only need to catch one fish with you about, we'd be onto a winner | |||
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"no, i don't suffer it. irishaphobia wasn't a thing during the times of the troubles..someone posted a pic on facebook of the damage the ira bombs did back then and it was fucking horrific compared to most stuff since, but nobody went and developed a phobia of irish folk, people just knew it was a few none representative nutters running about the place being dick heads...is there even a word for it? i'm not sure... anyhow, my point is it's easier to point to folk who perhaps look different to us and use tongues we don't understand it gives idiots a 'them' to point at and to demonise, they're a recognisable 'enemy' if you will and folk don't like vague fears...they like good solid ones they can keep their eye on
I was here in London during the IRA attacks. London was being locked down on a regular basis, particularly the City with its Ring of Steel. There was discrimination against Irish people but that had existed before. We carried on. Just as we do now.
i'm wondering if in london and the major cities the atmosphere was different? a little more tense? as perhaps in alot of major cities, but i don't remember there being such a big phobia..i don't know, i was young then (alas...to be young again!) and maybe alot of factors like social media and the speed of information and misinformation was a lot slower back then so i was more ignorant of it perhaps..
in your opinion is it comparable? the feeling toward irish people back then and the feeling of islamaphobia now? what do you reckon? you have a wise head on you
Islamaphobia is much worse but I think it is about the constant news cycle and internet now. When you only got the news on the radio every hour and three times on the telly it was easier to live in a more blinkered way.
Also, people found it easier to separate out the religious and country of origin aspects because it was Irish people killing Irish people too. Bringing it to the mainland was an escalation of that and brought in everyone as a clearly political message. It was organised, with warnings and statements after.
IS has killed more Muslims than they have killed Christians (or any other religion) just as the IRA would end up killing some of their own, as collateral damage, but we appear not to care about the innocent Muslims killed. There are no warnings, the statements that come out now may not actually be from the organising perpetrators as it may be lone wolves trying to prove themselves in some way.
Plus, it is easier to fear and be suspicious of someone who looks different. The Irish looked like everyone else. I was the one being stared at whenever there was evacuation back then as I didn't look like the majority of people on that scene. In fact, when I was evacuated from County Hall I only remember one other black person in the meeting room I was in.
so fear is more readily generated these days i feel, your never away from news now really...i mean, i joined fab to get my willy tampered with but still end up hearing about and discussing the news, it's always there and the news is geared to these kind of stories i think. i read recently that statistically we're safer now from terror attacks than 20 years ago but there seems more fear (disclaimer, i'm not sure where i read that or if indeed it is reliable) but it makes sense to me that in this age of information fear might spread far more quickly.
i might fuck off and build a log cabin some place ya know...the world is a little bit hectic and crazy just now.
I'll come with you and bring the fishing rods
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" Fear lives in the mind and that can easily influenced by repetition of things that make us feel fearful, even if we never experience the actuality of the thing we fear. Your shed needs to go off grid. I too joined Fab to tamper will some willies but ended up here talking about the news (and other nonsense). " works a bit like advertising then....repeating the idea untill it sinks in.. and maybe, we could pop it on the back of a flatbed and call it a camper shed | |||
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"The teachings of islam,in essence, says that there is no other god or religion but islam,anyone who has a different belief is not tolerated Whether people like it or not, the United Kingdom is a christian country and our laws and government are based upon that premise Christianity provides for tolerance for all, islam tolerates no one else " Laws and government shouldn't be based on any religious premise. | |||
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"What about Islamaphobiaphobia? N those that like to virtue signal by defending a culture/religion that would have them killed without a second thought in the name of moral decency? Some religions do have their good points....but the bad points far outweigh them I reckon!" I don't agree, but you would expect that from my other posts. I don't think the religion is going to kill me. All the Abrahamic faiths have the same basic tenets. It is the extreme interpretation of the punishments for apostasy and difference in belief while ignoring the teachings on peace and reconciliation that is at fault. By the very definition of extreme, most adherents to any religion are not extreme. | |||
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"What about Islamaphobiaphobia? N those that like to virtue signal by defending a culture/religion that would have them killed without a second thought in the name of moral decency? Some religions do have their good points....but the bad points far outweigh them I reckon! I don't agree, but you would expect that from my other posts. I don't think the religion is going to kill me. All the Abrahamic faiths have the same basic tenets. It is the extreme interpretation of the punishments for apostasy and difference in belief while ignoring the teachings on peace and reconciliation that is at fault. By the very definition of extreme, most adherents to any religion are not extreme. " I think the media has a lot to answer for,demonising the religion/culture as a whole n feeding the fear n ignorance of those already brought up with bigoted ideas. The bigger culprits though are the governments that send in the military that more often than not end up killing innocents thus creating more enemies seeking revenge for their killed families! And I can't say I blame them.....if my family had been blown to bits by a bomb from a drone or similar then I'd be looking to join the fight against those responsible! I don't claim to be particularly knowledgeable about the intricacies of the politics involved,this is just how I see it,a vicious cycle with the only winners being the warmongering fuckers that profiteer from death n destruction. | |||
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"What about Islamaphobiaphobia? N those that like to virtue signal by defending a culture/religion that would have them killed without a second thought in the name of moral decency? Some religions do have their good points....but the bad points far outweigh them I reckon! I don't agree, but you would expect that from my other posts. I don't think the religion is going to kill me. All the Abrahamic faiths have the same basic tenets. It is the extreme interpretation of the punishments for apostasy and difference in belief while ignoring the teachings on peace and reconciliation that is at fault. By the very definition of extreme, most adherents to any religion are not extreme. I think the media has a lot to answer for,demonising the religion/culture as a whole n feeding the fear n ignorance of those already brought up with bigoted ideas. The bigger culprits though are the governments that send in the military that more often than not end up killing innocents thus creating more enemies seeking revenge for their killed families! And I can't say I blame them.....if my family had been blown to bits by a bomb from a drone or similar then I'd be looking to join the fight against those responsible! I don't claim to be particularly knowledgeable about the intricacies of the politics involved,this is just how I see it,a vicious cycle with the only winners being the warmongering fuckers that profiteer from death n destruction. "war drives alot of money, and depending on sources britain is the second or third largest exporter of arms on the planet, worth an estimated £7.7 billion so that keeps alot of money sloshing into britain. war drives alot of tech and development too. the bottom line is it's profitable to keep folk thinking in such divisive ways and to keep them hating each other just enough to want to spend money on weapons of death. social engineered conditioning of the human being to will it's own destruction for the profit of a select few. | |||
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"What about Islamaphobiaphobia? N those that like to virtue signal by defending a culture/religion that would have them killed without a second thought in the name of moral decency? Some religions do have their good points....but the bad points far outweigh them I reckon! I don't agree, but you would expect that from my other posts. I don't think the religion is going to kill me. All the Abrahamic faiths have the same basic tenets. It is the extreme interpretation of the punishments for apostasy and difference in belief while ignoring the teachings on peace and reconciliation that is at fault. By the very definition of extreme, most adherents to any religion are not extreme. I think the media has a lot to answer for,demonising the religion/culture as a whole n feeding the fear n ignorance of those already brought up with bigoted ideas. The bigger culprits though are the governments that send in the military that more often than not end up killing innocents thus creating more enemies seeking revenge for their killed families! And I can't say I blame them.....if my family had been blown to bits by a bomb from a drone or similar then I'd be looking to join the fight against those responsible! I don't claim to be particularly knowledgeable about the intricacies of the politics involved,this is just how I see it,a vicious cycle with the only winners being the warmongering fuckers that profiteer from death n destruction.
war drives alot of money, and depending on sources britain is the second or third largest exporter of arms on the planet, worth an estimated £7.7 billion so that keeps alot of money sloshing into britain. war drives alot of tech and development too. the bottom line is it's profitable to keep folk thinking in such divisive ways and to keep them hating each other just enough to want to spend money on weapons of death.
social engineered conditioning of the human being to will it's own destruction for the profit of a select few. "Sad but true! I'm not trying to say that there are no peaceful muslims,but it's another sad but true fact that in a lot of countries under sharia law women are treated as second class citizens,gays n transgendered are put to death by being thrown off buildings......not very peaceful or tolerant is it! There are of course fundamentalists/extremists in other faiths whose evil deeds go unreported by our media.....but they're not the ones waging war on us in our own country by mowing down/beheading civilians on the street. Plenty of people are of the same opinion but don't say anything for fear of being branded a racist nazi bigot by so called liberals that can't see the wood for the trees! | |||
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