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Acceptable ? or an Abomination ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Childrens beauty pageants ????

Personally.......they are an abomination to me and should be banned till the child is AT LEAST 16 yrs old.

But thats just me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope I agree

There are plenty of other things fa kids to do my daughter (10) competition dances ballroom and I thinks that stuff like that is much better for em xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should be banned it's awful ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just watched some mother make up her two year old to look like she kin 30 yrs old....spray tan and all the other crap.

$75000 she has spent so far. disgusting.

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By *rs Sugar Mr SpiceCouple
over a year ago

We are about 15 mins outa Pontypridd and we do go to Crawley in west sussex 2-3 times a year so get in touch !!

CRUEL CRUEL AND CRUEL and its CRUELTY by the parents who put they nippers through that type of preassure, its not about the kids winning or loosing its about they parents pride and keeping up with the joneses and what the parents want but more to the fact ,What do the kids want ??????

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By *carletRomanceCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

to each there own.

If kid enjoys it go ahead, it's like anything competative.

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By *carletRomanceCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Things like this speed up a child's awareness of their sexuality - I don't see much of a difference between those shows and child porn.

Kids want to role play as adults, they need to, girls will steal their mother's make-up and try on their heels. But you shouldn't take it off them and teach them how to do it properly - they're kids! They'll learn that when they need to - when they're old enough!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Things like this speed up a child's awareness of their sexuality - I don't see much of a difference between those shows and child porn.

Kids want to role play as adults, they need to, girls will steal their mother's make-up and try on their heels. But you shouldn't take it off them and teach them how to do it properly - they're kids! They'll learn that when they need to - when they're old enough!"

Wholeheartedly agree, those young girls are encouraged to pout and pose and act in a most precocious manner.

They are only girls for such a short time.

I for one want the natural beauty and innocence of the child to shine through for as long as is possible. xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Most of what i have seen has nothing to do with the child wanting to do it or indeed liking doing it.

Its all about the parents bloody ego trip and dellusions of fame etc.

In fact some kids hate it but have to go along with ot to please mommy,. its a form of abuse ...nothing more

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

How outrageously awful that someone can profit from the bespoiling of a childs innocence and also that we know it will gain an audience. Whosoever suggested it should be placed on a offender register! .............along with parents who condone it.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"Just watched some mother make up her two year old to look like she kin 30 yrs old....spray tan and all the other crap.

$75000 she has spent so far. disgusting. "

Kin 'ell, is that the price of make-up these days.

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

It's absolutely disgusting!!!!!

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

The worst of American culture, very scary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is an ex-brit who gives her daughter botox in her face and waxes her legs for beauty pagents and her daughter is only eight. She's even tattooed her eyebrows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

natural beauty is the best..

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"natural beauty is the best.. "

Yep, brilliant Neil Young track, up there with his better work.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

shocking...........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't say child pageants bother me one way or another. Children have an annoying habit of growing up and when they do these particular parents will find a void in their meaningless lives.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

CREEPY

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

Agree with everything that`s been said. However, I do like to see small towns having their Junior Carnival Princesses and letting them their 1/2 a day of fame in the local rag along with their senior counterparts! Can`t see the harm in that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its uncomfortable to see very young girls with a full face of make up and a spray tan and a strapless dress. I think young girls should be dressed like Alice in Wonderland or Dorothy.

But.... my mother was obsessed with entering me for the mini carnival queen, though I was dressed age appropriately and no make up ever went near my face (was dressed in a ridiculous amount of pink satin and lacy underskirts with ribbons and ballet shoes though). It made her day when I won it, and I was grateful too. You couldnt ever win it twice so I was absolved of entering again. They only let me win cos they were so pissed off with seeing me every year since I could walk

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

i watch some of that tantrums and tiaras sometimes and its big business!!

its obvious that some mothers are pushing their kids to do it and the fathers are such walk overs that they just let them!

it isnt about who it the cutest kid anymore, its all about who has the nicest teeth (if the childs teeth have fallen out or arent 'right' they use a flipper to give them perfect teeth ), who has the nicest tean, who has the nicest hair (sprayed and back combed to within and inch of its life)

the routines they have to do and the clothes they wear are shocking and the see nothing wrong with it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Deffo cruelty. The parents should be ashamed of themselves. I go mad if my 14 year old daughter attempts to put make up on.

Why don't the parents let their kids grow up naturally? Maybe they have something lacking in their lives.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"How outrageously awful that someone can profit from the bespoiling of a childs innocence and also that we know it will gain an audience. Whosoever suggested it should be placed on a offender register! .............along with parents who condone it. "

Hang on a minute.

So people who allow their kids to wear outfits that you think are attractive to paedophiles should be labelled sex offenders and placed on a register?

That's the best argument against school uniforms I've ever seen, but I don't think it's what you intended.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

No and you know full well I didn't. You do seem to have researched your subject though???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How outrageously awful that someone can profit from the bespoiling of a childs innocence and also that we know it will gain an audience. Whosoever suggested it should be placed on a offender register! .............along with parents who condone it.

Hang on a minute.

So people who allow their kids to wear outfits that you think are attractive to paedophiles should be labelled sex offenders and placed on a register?

That's the best argument against school uniforms I've ever seen, but I don't think it's what you intended."

Olympic gold for the jumping to conclusions post.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"No and you know full well I didn't. You do seem to have researched your subject though??? "

I think you need to stop right there and consider what you've just said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Banned it's bloody weird.

You even see it spilling out in the UK with kids dressed like mini adults.

Children should be allowed to be children not exposed to adult life,dress and social pressures.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"How outrageously awful that someone can profit from the bespoiling of a childs innocence and also that we know it will gain an audience. Whosoever suggested it should be placed on a offender register! .............along with parents who condone it.

Hang on a minute.

So people who allow their kids to wear outfits that you think are attractive to paedophiles should be labelled sex offenders and placed on a register?

That's the best argument against school uniforms I've ever seen, but I don't think it's what you intended.

Olympic gold for the jumping to conclusions post. "

In what way? I'm intrigued....

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton


"No and you know full well I didn't. You do seem to have researched your subject though??? "

that is totally out of order and unrequired . the guy made a very valid point against your post !

with your _iew and argument i should be strung up or at least on the sex offenders list as i allow my 10 year old daughter to wear shorts in summer and bikinis on the beach .after all that could be considered "provocative" in your _iew.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How outrageously awful that someone can profit from the bespoiling of a childs innocence and also that we know it will gain an audience. Whosoever suggested it should be placed on a offender register! .............along with parents who condone it.

Hang on a minute.

So people who allow their kids to wear outfits that you think are attractive to paedophiles should be labelled sex offenders and placed on a register?

That's the best argument against school uniforms I've ever seen, but I don't think it's what you intended.

Olympic gold for the jumping to conclusions post.

In what way? I'm intrigued...."

Where did _obbytupper mention, clothing paedophiles and a sex offenders register?

I took his comment to be in the same vein as other posters and that those involved in the pageants were guilty of abuse in a completely different manner.

And since when did school uniform sexualise children? adults took that particular form of dress and sexualised it, in my opinion children are the only ones who should be seen in school uniform.

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

People these days seem to have kids for a variety of reasons - more benefits, bigger council house etc some, I understand, even like the little shits.

Maybe they parade their kids in beauty pageants because they're not responsible enough to own dogs? I still think ear-piercing should be illegal for under 16s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why oh why does the 'abuse' argument have to be thrown in every single time a parent does something that is a teensy weensy bit out of the ordinary?

Those that are calling these competitions 'obscene' or that the parents are 'abusers' should really go and see one of these pageants and see that the kids actually enjoy it. Those of us that are parents know full well that when a child really doesn't want to do something it aint gonna happen without floods of tears and temper tantrums. Hardly conducive to a competition winning attitude.

My only qualm would be that these kids should be taught the value of taking part above the value of winning and that not winning isn't the end of the world. Having seen one or two of the progs, it strikes me that the mothers get more upset at losing than the children.

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

think you made a good point wishy . alil competion isnt bad .its when thing are unballenced that problems occur ,but thats the same with anything in life. if the parents have the righ outlook and ensure that its isnt the be all and end all and that their child is happy and has other interests then can be a great exsperice for the child.however the exstreams parent will go to with tanning ect is when this becomes unballenced and unhealthy

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"How outrageously awful that someone can profit from the bespoiling of a childs innocence and also that we know it will gain an audience. Whosoever suggested it should be placed on a offender register! .............along with parents who condone it.

Hang on a minute.

So people who allow their kids to wear outfits that you think are attractive to paedophiles should be labelled sex offenders and placed on a register?

That's the best argument against school uniforms I've ever seen, but I don't think it's what you intended.

Olympic gold for the jumping to conclusions post.

In what way? I'm intrigued....

Where did _obbytupper mention, clothing paedophiles and a sex offenders register?

I took his comment to be in the same vein as other posters and that those involved in the pageants were guilty of abuse in a completely different manner.

And since when did school uniform sexualise children? adults took that particular form of dress and sexualised it, in my opinion children are the only ones who should be seen in school uniform."

Here's what he said.


"How outrageously awful that someone can profit from the bespoiling of a childs innocence and also that we know it will gain an audience. Whosoever suggested it should be placed on a offender register!"

If I misinterpreted that, I'll think again. But I don't think I did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it disturbing when I see six year olds made up, coiffured and dressed provocably in these pagents: it doesn't sit well with me.

However, from what I've seen it's the mother's attitude that is so scary: living vicariously through their daughter's. Not all the children seem to be enjoying it - they're children, they don't have a voice if their parents enter them in these pagents.

Before we start castigating these mother's however, take a look when you're out shopping. You'll see the mini Lolita's out in force...same difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

should be banned ....they sexualise children , its a weird fetish thing or something in my _iew and doesnt look natural or right . gives out the wrong impression of life to these children that looks are more important than anything esle . its just so so wrong . and for people t profit from it is sickening . thankfully as far as i know it seems to be limited to the americas . but i may be wrong there .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ohhhhhh unfortunately its something us brits have taken on board along with school proms etc.

In my veiw it should have stayed over there.

There are now pageants over here and some poor 5yr old kid is probably being dressed up to the nines as we speak.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think that because parents allow their child to enter beauty pageants, have spray tans and wear make up is sexual abuse, it absolutely is not and its outrageous to suggest placing people on the sex offenders register for dressing up their kids. Paedophiles are sexually interested in children, and a child wearing a nappy could be enticing to some.

I agree its uncomfortable to look at, children dressing like models doesn't sit right with me.

I was entered quite a lot, albeit very different from the american pageants. The children entering looked and dressed like children. Admittedly I wasn't keen, not because I didn't want to dress in pink satin but because I was a little shy and I didn't want to walk around a stage without my mother. She got pleasure from it, again not because she was a pushy parent living her life through me, but because she finally got her little girl in her 40s after years of trying and she was proud and wanted everyone to see how lovely (in her eyes) her little girl was. I expect its a similar thing for the american mothers, albeit they up the ante in the US and its a whole different ball game to the village carnival pageants I entered.

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

Abomineptable.

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By *havenangel1Couple
over a year ago

Worcester

My daughter is 5 and does ballet which she loves she wanted to do modeling too but i will only let her do one as i think she won't be a child for long and i want her to have time for friends and to play. She recently asked for a pair of heals and some make up the answer was a resounding no. There is plenty of time for all that when they are older.

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By *ustyWoman
over a year ago

inverclyde

not right at all ban them a kid is a kid not something that has to dressed up like a doll

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