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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

At a time of austerity they can still find £379million to hand out to oor sovereigns for a kitchen upgrade.

These kints are the biggest freeloaders on the planet fs.

Smh, kmt.

M1CKS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm more pissed off at the Palace of Westminster restoration at between 3.5 and 4 BILLION. And that truly is at the cost of the tax payer, rather than the monarch, which is paying for buck house.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It's shocking.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one."

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"I'm more pissed off at the Palace of Westminster restoration at between 3.5 and 4 BILLION. And that truly is at the cost of the tax payer, rather than the monarch, which is paying for buck house. "

I'd sell it as a hotel for £1Bn, save the £4Bn refurb cost, and relocate to a new building outside of central London.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced."

But it's true. I don't have time in my everyday life to be concerned about every single thing that's wrong with the world. Should I use Amazon, buy coffee in Starbucks? What about the homeless situation? How about the mps expenses scandal, the political situation, the famine in Africa?

I'm fleeced at every turn, I know that. I try and think about what the media, the powers that be and authority tell me and I'm naturally cynical but I simply can't care to any degree that will have any effect about all of it. Therefore while I'm aware of these things I choose to mange what I actively and meaningfully care about in the sense of actually doing something about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced."

Maybe educate yourself on exactly who's paying for it. It's a complex system, evolved many, many years ago and certainly wouldn't be one implemented today, but nevertheless, to jump on the daily fail bandwagon shows your lack of education and research into who is paying for what.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm more pissed off at the Palace of Westminster restoration at between 3.5 and 4 BILLION. And that truly is at the cost of the tax payer, rather than the monarch, which is paying for buck house.

I'd sell it as a hotel for £1Bn, save the £4Bn refurb cost, and relocate to a new building outside of central London."

An easy, lazy jump. And the loss would outweigh any perceived benefit. Never mind what English heritage would say. Far better to open it up to tourism more, cut the bureaucracy and reform the parliamentary system and benefits.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced.

Maybe educate yourself on exactly who's paying for it. It's a complex system, evolved many, many years ago and certainly wouldn't be one implemented today, but nevertheless, to jump on the daily fail bandwagon shows your lack of education and research into who is paying for what. "

I know who's not paying for it if that helps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced.

Maybe educate yourself on exactly who's paying for it. It's a complex system, evolved many, many years ago and certainly wouldn't be one implemented today, but nevertheless, to jump on the daily fail bandwagon shows your lack of education and research into who is paying for what.

I know who's not paying for it if that helps "

I doubt it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced.

Maybe educate yourself on exactly who's paying for it. It's a complex system, evolved many, many years ago and certainly wouldn't be one implemented today, but nevertheless, to jump on the daily fail bandwagon shows your lack of education and research into who is paying for what.

I know who's not paying for it if that helps

I doubt it "

Don't under estimate the knowledge of a common man with Google at his disposal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced.

Maybe educate yourself on exactly who's paying for it. It's a complex system, evolved many, many years ago and certainly wouldn't be one implemented today, but nevertheless, to jump on the daily fail bandwagon shows your lack of education and research into who is paying for what.

I know who's not paying for it if that helps

I doubt it "

I had to do some research recently to settle an argument. Apart from one off building work/refurbs etc., the Royal Family cost the UK taxpayer £33m/annum against a reported tourist income of £500m/annum. That seems to represent fairly decent value for money on their part, and I'm no monarchist by a long stretch (I'm ambivalent, at best).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced.

Maybe educate yourself on exactly who's paying for it. It's a complex system, evolved many, many years ago and certainly wouldn't be one implemented today, but nevertheless, to jump on the daily fail bandwagon shows your lack of education and research into who is paying for what.

I know who's not paying for it if that helps

I doubt it

I had to do some research recently to settle an argument. Apart from one off building work/refurbs etc., the Royal Family cost the UK taxpayer £33m/annum against a reported tourist income of £500m/annum. That seems to represent fairly decent value for money on their part, and I'm no monarchist by a long stretch (I'm ambivalent, at best)."

And let's not forget all the other income such as staffing, estate management etc. im not a royalist either, but can't stand the lazy, tabloid led thinking that some have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I find interesting is that some sections of the press that usually fawn all over them suddenly seem to be turning on William.

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By *edonistic ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Stratford


"I'm more pissed off at the Palace of Westminster restoration at between 3.5 and 4 BILLION. And that truly is at the cost of the tax payer, rather than the monarch, which is paying for buck house.

I'd sell it as a hotel for £1Bn, save the £4Bn refurb cost, and relocate to a new building outside of central London."

It's riddled with asbestos, damp, bad wiring and as leaky as a sieve. Apart from the fact it's not called the "Palace' of Westminster for no good reason, there's no way any developer in their right mind would pay a £Bn for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are so many things to be outraged, fed up, cross and just generally pissed off about that i simply don't have time or energy for this one.

That's exactly what they want, for the common person not to have the time to notice being fleeced.

Maybe educate yourself on exactly who's paying for it. It's a complex system, evolved many, many years ago and certainly wouldn't be one implemented today, but nevertheless, to jump on the daily fail bandwagon shows your lack of education and research into who is paying for what.

I know who's not paying for it if that helps

I doubt it

I had to do some research recently to settle an argument. Apart from one off building work/refurbs etc., the Royal Family cost the UK taxpayer £33m/annum against a reported tourist income of £500m/annum. That seems to represent fairly decent value for money on their part, and I'm no monarchist by a long stretch (I'm ambivalent, at best).

And let's not forget all the other income such as staffing, estate management etc. im not a royalist either, but can't stand the lazy, tabloid led thinking that some have. "

Will the non-freeloading proles still be working into their 90's too? You'd suspect not...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like them....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They'd keep a lot more than 15% (25% for the next ten years) of the £300m profit that they hand to the Treasury every year, if they became a PLC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?"

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss."

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time. "

I'd assume the weak pound would be a benefit to tourists?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time. "

Really? The number of tourists to the UK has risen by 1.5m/annum, year on year since around 2008. Their total spend has flattened out a little but still makes up 7.1% of UK GDP.

Apart from anything else, it's cheap as chips to visit here from the US at the minute and they spend the most money while they're here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Ubiquitous Chip won't be going out of business anytime soon.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time.

Really? The number of tourists to the UK has risen by 1.5m/annum, year on year since around 2008. Their total spend has flattened out a little but still makes up 7.1% of UK GDP.

Apart from anything else, it's cheap as chips to visit here from the US at the minute and they spend the most money while they're here."

I'm not a believer of statistics, I am however a firm believer of what I see and experience around me, tourism is tits up.

Still doesn't retract from why the taxpayer should have to support a monarchy in a capitalist and equal society, it's hypocrisy at best and stupidity at worst.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time.

Really? The number of tourists to the UK has risen by 1.5m/annum, year on year since around 2008. Their total spend has flattened out a little but still makes up 7.1% of UK GDP.

Apart from anything else, it's cheap as chips to visit here from the US at the minute and they spend the most money while they're here.

I'm not a believer of statistics, I am however a firm believer of what I see and experience around me, tourism is tits up.

Still doesn't retract from why the taxpayer should have to support a monarchy in a capitalist and equal society, it's hypocrisy at best and stupidity at worst. "

You can either have an equal society or a capitalist society, to achieve both at the same time is a virtual impossibility! Capitalism just doesn't work like that.

One of my daughter's lives in Manchester, the other lives in Cornwall, as I'm not seeing the death of tourism in either. If tourism died in Cornwall, it would cease to exist. They're already going to be FUBAR unless the government decides to continue the subsidies that they currently get from the EU.

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By *edonistic ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Stratford


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time.

Really? The number of tourists to the UK has risen by 1.5m/annum, year on year since around 2008. Their total spend has flattened out a little but still makes up 7.1% of UK GDP.

Apart from anything else, it's cheap as chips to visit here from the US at the minute and they spend the most money while they're here.

I'm not a believer of statistics, I am however a firm believer of what I see and experience around me, tourism is tits up.

Still doesn't retract from why the taxpayer should have to support a monarchy in a capitalist and equal society, it's hypocrisy at best and stupidity at worst. "

Tourism is alive and thriving around here but maybe Stratford in Spring has more attraction to offer than where you are - who knows? It's a shame you don't believe the statistics - they're based on fact rather than conjecture.

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By *ugs and JunkCouple
over a year ago

Bellshill

The lot of them are inbred parasites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time.

Really? The number of tourists to the UK has risen by 1.5m/annum, year on year since around 2008. Their total spend has flattened out a little but still makes up 7.1% of UK GDP.

Apart from anything else, it's cheap as chips to visit here from the US at the minute and they spend the most money while they're here.

I'm not a believer of statistics, I am however a firm believer of what I see and experience around me, tourism is tits up.

Still doesn't retract from why the taxpayer should have to support a monarchy in a capitalist and equal society, it's hypocrisy at best and stupidity at worst. "

Glasgow is a wonderful city but does it really have a thriving to tidy trade?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for the monarchy, I've explained the figures, they're getting a 25% dividend on their earnings for ten years, instead of a 15% dividend.

You can bet your arse that the UK's business leaders get a better return than that.

It's the equivalent of you earning thirty grand a year and only taking home £4,500 (or £7000 at the higher rate).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As for the monarchy, I've explained the figures, they're getting a 25% dividend on their earnings for ten years, instead of a 15% dividend.

You can bet your arse that the UK's business leaders get a better return than that.

It's the equivalent of you earning thirty grand a year and only taking home £4,500 (or £7000 at the higher rate)."

Aye i understand your point however I don't see tourism (flourishing or not) being a justifiable reason for supporting their existence especially in modern day society.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How do you think Brexit and referendum part duex is going to effect tourism?

What do you think? Genuine question, not taking the piss.

Tbh I think it's already in decline and about to further decline big time.

Really? The number of tourists to the UK has risen by 1.5m/annum, year on year since around 2008. Their total spend has flattened out a little but still makes up 7.1% of UK GDP.

Apart from anything else, it's cheap as chips to visit here from the US at the minute and they spend the most money while they're here.

I'm not a believer of statistics, I am however a firm believer of what I see and experience around me, tourism is tits up.

Still doesn't retract from why the taxpayer should have to support a monarchy in a capitalist and equal society, it's hypocrisy at best and stupidity at worst.

Glasgow is a wonderful city but does it really have a thriving to tidy trade?"

Have you ever been to Loch lomand and the Highlands? If I was a tourist I'd much rather go there than to see the Queen wave her hand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As for the monarchy, I've explained the figures, they're getting a 25% dividend on their earnings for ten years, instead of a 15% dividend.

You can bet your arse that the UK's business leaders get a better return than that.

It's the equivalent of you earning thirty grand a year and only taking home £4,500 (or £7000 at the higher rate).

Aye i understand your point however I don't see tourism (flourishing or not) being a justifiable reason for supporting their existence especially in modern day society.

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We don't support their existence, is it so difficult to understand? They give the Treasury over £300m every year, they get 25% back (usually 15%) to spend on themselves! Charlie doesn't even cost that, he lives off the income he makes as the Duchy of Cornwall.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The lot of them are inbred parasites"

A tad harsh but aye i get yer point

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As for the monarchy, I've explained the figures, they're getting a 25% dividend on their earnings for ten years, instead of a 15% dividend.

You can bet your arse that the UK's business leaders get a better return than that.

It's the equivalent of you earning thirty grand a year and only taking home £4,500 (or £7000 at the higher rate).

Aye i understand your point however I don't see tourism (flourishing or not) being a justifiable reason for supporting their existence especially in modern day society.

We don't support their existence, is it so difficult to understand? They give the Treasury over £300m every year, they get 25% back (usually 15%) to spend on themselves! Charlie doesn't even cost that, he lives off the income he makes as the Duchy of Cornwall."

Says who? Government produced statistics or maybe the treasury, God forbid they may be misleading or even biased.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As for the monarchy, I've explained the figures, they're getting a 25% dividend on their earnings for ten years, instead of a 15% dividend.

You can bet your arse that the UK's business leaders get a better return than that.

It's the equivalent of you earning thirty grand a year and only taking home £4,500 (or £7000 at the higher rate).

Aye i understand your point however I don't see tourism (flourishing or not) being a justifiable reason for supporting their existence especially in modern day society.

We don't support their existence, is it so difficult to understand? They give the Treasury over £300m every year, they get 25% back (usually 15%) to spend on themselves! Charlie doesn't even cost that, he lives off the income he makes as the Duchy of Cornwall.

Says who? Government produced statistics or maybe the treasury, God forbid they may be misleading or even biased. "

Says at least three or four different sources that I found. Do I have to start Harvard Referencing everything now, given that it would work both ways?

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