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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I have an idea for a very simple invention that would be extremely useful and very inexpensive to manufacture. It's also extremely easy for me to make a prototype.

I know obviously this makes it also easy to copy.

I haven't seen anything like it anywhere and it is very useful to a large proportion of the population.

Any ideas if it is worth me going somewhere with it, and where would I even start? Thank you so much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'd need to check patents to see if someone has already come up with it if not you then have to patent it

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By *r.ringMan
over a year ago

totton


"You'd need to check patents to see if someone has already come up with it if not you then have to patent it "

Yes as this. But first right down your idea and take pics. Print the pics and put them with your idea in an envelope and post this to yourself. Do two copy's of this. Don't open them when they arrive. As you know what's in them. this is a very simple way of protecting your idea. If someone copy's your idea before a formal patent is in place. As the letter is post marked and dated. This will stand as secure evidence in a court protecting you.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

You need to start working out what the actual demand is likely to be, whether there is anything similar and what it would take to manufacture it. Once you have that (and the patent) you can start raising the money for a prototype.

There are schemes you might be able to apply for.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I shalln't be investing in your hairbrained idea cos I'm skint. So for that reason, I'm oot

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

well after a quick look on google i found this below, so my advice is to start saving up your money.

Start

File UK Patent Application. Usually £3,000 to £5,000.

By 12 months

File PCT (International) Patent Application. Typically £4000 to £5000 depending on how much additional material needs to be included in the application.

About 1 year 6 months

Review International search report and decide whether to proceed with full International Examination. Typically £600 to £1,500 depending on how relevant the documents cited in the search report are.

For an outlay of around £10,000 it is possible to preserve the opportunity to obtain worldwide patent rights for nearly 2 and a half years and get a reliable indication of the scope of the patents that will be achieved.

2 years 6 months

Move from the International to the National Phase in the countries of interest. This is the most significant point in the process in terms of setting current and future levels of expenditure. Costs vary from £5,500 (for proceeding only with European and US patent applications) to £25,000 (for all major markets), possibly more if smaller, sector specific markets are also required.

During the following years there will be costs incurred to deal with formal and substantive Patent Office objections. It is during this stage that Applicants, through their representatives, enter into a dialogue with Patent Office Examiners about the merits of their invention. The level of costs will depend on the nature of the objections and the number of countries concerned. In the USA around £8,000 might be spent on such matters and in Europe around £4,000. In some countries annual renewal fees of a few hundred pounds are due on pending applications.

The next significant point of expenditure and decision making is when the European Patent grants. The patent must be validated in the individual countries by complying with local formalities, lodging translations, paying local patent office and attorney fees. The individual European countries of interest can be selected. The total cost depends largely on the number of translations required and the length of the patent document. Although a recent Agreement between European member states reduces the burden of preparing translations, most countries still require some translation into a national language. Typical total costs on grant for proceeding in 6 or 7 of the largest European countries would be around £12,000. Thus over a period of about 6 years £40,000 may have been spent in securing patent protection in a selection of major European countries and the USA. Each additional (non-European) country would usually cost £3-10,000, largely dependent on whether a translation is required at the 2 years 6 months stage, thus Japan and China are more expensive than Australia and Canada. After grant annual renewal fees of several hundred pounds are also payable in most countries.

Not everybody aims for international protection. For some companies just protecting the UK market is enough; taking a UK application from first filing through to grant would typically cost around £6 - 7,000. Others may also seek protection in the USA, but nowhere else, thereby increasing costs by £4 - 10,000+.

All of the patents will rely upon the original UK patent application and it is important that the invention is adequately described and its essential features identified in that application. If the overall expense of obtaining patents is not to be wasted, the initial investment in the UK application must be sufficient.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"You'd need to check patents to see if someone has already come up with it if not you then have to patent it

Yes as this. But first right down your idea and take pics. Print the pics and put them with your idea in an envelope and post this to yourself. Do two copy's of this. Don't open them when they arrive. As you know what's in them. this is a very simple way of protecting your idea. If someone copy's your idea before a formal patent is in place. As the letter is post marked and dated. This will stand as secure evidence in a court protecting you. "

Poor man's copyright is hard to prove in court even with special delivery since it doesn't prove who created it, who had the idea in the first place or that you personally own it. You're better off going through the IPO for a patent; part of the process is that they search for anything that already exists.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I love new ideas. Some words of caution though.

Is it commercially viable?

Are you going to have to sink a lot of money into getting it developed / tooling.

Get a patent, but be careful on costs. You can diy patent and you can spend thousands getting it done proffesionally with fewer loopholes.

Can somebody else rip it off even if patented?

Good luck and hope you find a good way forward.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Contact the Patent Office. They are very helpful and used to let one see an advisor for one free visit. Don't know if they still do it but worth asking their advice. Be careful of companies offering help. They eventually ask for money once you have signed idea over to them.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Sometimes being first to market is more important. Patents can be sidestepped or even illegally ignored.

Don't forget costs of packaging, distribution, the shops profit etc.

Dont let these things put you off though, just bear them in mind. I have worked in design and manufacturing all my life. It's do-able with determination, just don't blind yourself with the idea.

Let a friend be devils advocate maybe.

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex


"You'd need to check patents to see if someone has already come up with it if not you then have to patent it

Yes as this. But first right down your idea and take pics. Print the pics and put them with your idea in an envelope and post this to yourself. Do two copy's of this. Don't open them when they arrive. As you know what's in them. this is a very simple way of protecting your idea. If someone copy's your idea before a formal patent is in place. As the letter is post marked and dated. This will stand as secure evidence in a court protecting you. "

Include a masthead from today's paper, sign and date the outside of the package, close the envelope with see through tape. Send the package to yourself by registered post and keep all of the receipts. When you get the pack delivered store it carefully. It's a kind of "poor man's patent" until you get a formal one (which does cost money)

good luck with your idea.

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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

Thank you so much everybody for your input

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