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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!" i have no problem with any of that clem my problem is when human behaviour and needs for such things reach the point where as a species we are willing to exterminate another species for those beliefs . breed to supply i have no problem with if done right but this was a case of pure greed committed by criminals for financial gain , if china wants rhino horns where are all the breeding reserves in china to supply there needs . i believe genocide on other humans or on any species we share this planet with be one of the worst traits of the human condition and should be apposed at all costs. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!" Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff." You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! " clem you naughty wind up merchant | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! " . Haha you tell em it was just on the news on the radio, this expert said theres 600 species a week going bump, in the grand scheme of things this rhino is just a drop in the ocean | |||
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"People need to remember there is another point of view. As wrong as we think it is." i don't think such believes are wrong but when some of the consequences of those beliefs lead to the subjectification and dehumanising of women or whole groups of people based on purely grounds of belief then we have a moral duty to offer those subject to that subjectification a alternative option . as for hunting a fellow species we share this planet with for simple reasons as belief that is wrong we should be trying to find a way to sustain just species because its in the best interests of supplying those with said interests with that which they need from said animals concerned that's where sustainable ethical farming and animal management comes in . | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?! i have no problem with any of that clem my problem is when human behaviour and needs for such things reach the point where as a species we are willing to exterminate another species for those beliefs . breed to supply i have no problem with if done right but this was a case of pure greed committed by criminals for financial gain , if china wants rhino horns where are all the breeding reserves in china to supply there needs . i believe genocide on other humans or on any species we share this planet with be one of the worst traits of the human condition and should be apposed at all costs. " Don't see you being outraged over the near extinction of Orangutans due to the western world's thirst for corn syrup. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?! i have no problem with any of that clem my problem is when human behaviour and needs for such things reach the point where as a species we are willing to exterminate another species for those beliefs . breed to supply i have no problem with if done right but this was a case of pure greed committed by criminals for financial gain , if china wants rhino horns where are all the breeding reserves in china to supply there needs . i believe genocide on other humans or on any species we share this planet with be one of the worst traits of the human condition and should be apposed at all costs. Don't see you being outraged over the near extinction of Orangutans due to the western world's thirst for corn syrup." but i am don't be foolish . i am outraged by such actions and behaviour I'm a humanist at heart and believe that this planet with its teaming eco system should be protected by us as we are the only sentient species on it so we should be its keepers not its rapists , | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?! i have no problem with any of that clem my problem is when human behaviour and needs for such things reach the point where as a species we are willing to exterminate another species for those beliefs . breed to supply i have no problem with if done right but this was a case of pure greed committed by criminals for financial gain , if china wants rhino horns where are all the breeding reserves in china to supply there needs . i believe genocide on other humans or on any species we share this planet with be one of the worst traits of the human condition and should be apposed at all costs. Don't see you being outraged over the near extinction of Orangutans due to the western world's thirst for corn syrup. but i am don't be foolish . i am outraged by such actions and behaviour I'm a humanist at heart and believe that this planet with its teaming eco system should be protected by us as we are the only sentient species on it so we should be its keepers not its rapists , " Don't call me foolish. It's rude. | |||
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"It's a sad world. Foolish to not have dehorned him " . Was the rhinorosorus on here, he probably topped himself | |||
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"People need to remember there is another point of view. As wrong as we think it is." And that 'other' point of view is what?? | |||
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"People need to remember there is another point of view. As wrong as we think it is. And that 'other' point of view is what?? " I'm pretty sure I've already explained that? | |||
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"People need to remember there is another point of view. As wrong as we think it is. And that 'other' point of view is what?? I'm pretty sure I've already explained that? " The 'other' point of view is that in their culture it is OK. In other cultures FGM, beating dogs to death to eat, beheading etc etc is also ok. We consider those things barbaric because they are. | |||
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"People need to remember there is another point of view. As wrong as we think it is. And that 'other' point of view is what?? I'm pretty sure I've already explained that? " Not for what I can see - nothing that validates the slaughter of an animal for monetary gain. | |||
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"People need to remember there is another point of view. As wrong as we think it is. And that 'other' point of view is what?? I'm pretty sure I've already explained that? The 'other' point of view is that in their culture it is OK. In other cultures FGM, beating dogs to death to eat, beheading etc etc is also ok. We consider those things barbaric because they are." | |||
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"People need to remember there is another point of view. As wrong as we think it is. And that 'other' point of view is what?? I'm pretty sure I've already explained that? Not for what I can see - nothing that validates the slaughter of an animal for monetary gain." Oh dear God... | |||
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"If it's the same limerick gypsy gang that has being robbing rhino horn all across Europe for years now then this is only the start of a lot of rhinos being killed for their horns unless they are stopped " . We get a lot of gypos in Angelsey who steal sheep but there not as bad as the new age travelers, who just leave a right shit hole of a mess after they leave, thats if they leave, one layby has had a bunch in for over ten years | |||
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" . We get a lot of gypos in Angelsey who steal sheep but there not as bad as the new age travelers, who just leave a right shit hole of a mess after they leave, thats if they leave, one layby has had a bunch in for over ten years " In Anglesey isn't going off with someone elses sheep just classified as adultery? | |||
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" . We get a lot of gypos in Angelsey who steal sheep but there not as bad as the new age travelers, who just leave a right shit hole of a mess after they leave, thats if they leave, one layby has had a bunch in for over ten years In Anglesey isn't going off with someone elses sheep just classified as adultery?" . Depends on weather your related to them or not | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! " Rhino horn is composed of a protein called keratin. Basically keratin is the outermost layer on our and every other mammals skin. It is dead. It has no other function than to protect the layers underneath. It has no aphrodisiac properties whatsoever. There has never been published any research material endorsing this claim from ANYWHERE in the world. East or west. As has already been stated, you might as well eat toe nail clippings because it's the same substance. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! Rhino horn is composed of a protein called keratin. Basically keratin is the outermost layer on our and every other mammals skin. It is dead. It has no other function than to protect the layers underneath. It has no aphrodisiac properties whatsoever. There has never been published any research material endorsing this claim from ANYWHERE in the world. East or west. As has already been stated, you might as well eat toe nail clippings because it's the same substance." You're just not seeing it are you.... | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! Rhino horn is composed of a protein called keratin. Basically keratin is the outermost layer on our and every other mammals skin. It is dead. It has no other function than to protect the layers underneath. It has no aphrodisiac properties whatsoever. There has never been published any research material endorsing this claim from ANYWHERE in the world. East or west. As has already been stated, you might as well eat toe nail clippings because it's the same substance. You're just not seeing it are you.... " Please enlighten me and others. Just what are we not seeing? The fact that another species is for no useful purpose whatsoever, being destroyed. If that is your idea of being civilised then I pity you. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! Rhino horn is composed of a protein called keratin. Basically keratin is the outermost layer on our and every other mammals skin. It is dead. It has no other function than to protect the layers underneath. It has no aphrodisiac properties whatsoever. There has never been published any research material endorsing this claim from ANYWHERE in the world. East or west. As has already been stated, you might as well eat toe nail clippings because it's the same substance. You're just not seeing it are you.... Please enlighten me and others. Just what are we not seeing? The fact that another species is for no useful purpose whatsoever, being destroyed. If that is your idea of being civilised then I pity you. " Everyone else is getting it! Its not MY idea of being civilized for fuck sake! Save your pity! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!! | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! Rhino horn is composed of a protein called keratin. Basically keratin is the outermost layer on our and every other mammals skin. It is dead. It has no other function than to protect the layers underneath. It has no aphrodisiac properties whatsoever. There has never been published any research material endorsing this claim from ANYWHERE in the world. East or west. As has already been stated, you might as well eat toe nail clippings because it's the same substance. You're just not seeing it are you.... Please enlighten me and others. Just what are we not seeing? The fact that another species is for no useful purpose whatsoever, being destroyed. If that is your idea of being civilised then I pity you. Everyone else is getting it! Its not MY idea of being civilized for fuck sake! Save your pity! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!" Someone called ? | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! Rhino horn is composed of a protein called keratin. Basically keratin is the outermost layer on our and every other mammals skin. It is dead. It has no other function than to protect the layers underneath. It has no aphrodisiac properties whatsoever. There has never been published any research material endorsing this claim from ANYWHERE in the world. East or west. As has already been stated, you might as well eat toe nail clippings because it's the same substance. You're just not seeing it are you.... Please enlighten me and others. Just what are we not seeing? The fact that another species is for no useful purpose whatsoever, being destroyed. If that is your idea of being civilised then I pity you. Everyone else is getting it! Its not MY idea of being civilized for fuck sake! Save your pity! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!" Think you need to lie down in a darkened room dear. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!Because it's not a fucking aphrodisiac! Rhino horn is keratin, they might as well chew toe nail clippings, it's the same stuff. You would say that! You're white, and a rich westerner trying to impose your Christian belief system for capitalist gain! Rhino horn is composed of a protein called keratin. Basically keratin is the outermost layer on our and every other mammals skin. It is dead. It has no other function than to protect the layers underneath. It has no aphrodisiac properties whatsoever. There has never been published any research material endorsing this claim from ANYWHERE in the world. East or west. As has already been stated, you might as well eat toe nail clippings because it's the same substance. You're just not seeing it are you.... Please enlighten me and others. Just what are we not seeing? The fact that another species is for no useful purpose whatsoever, being destroyed. If that is your idea of being civilised then I pity you. Everyone else is getting it! Its not MY idea of being civilized for fuck sake! Save your pity! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!! Someone called ? " Yes please help! I've found a real one.. | |||
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"It's terrible, but can easily see more similar cases happening. It's simple risk vs reward. Poach in Africa, get caught and you get shot.. break into a European zoo and its trespass or similar." Should shoot them here too. Billions of people, not many Rhinos. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?!" 7/10 - I didn't think it would fly at first. Kudos. | |||
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"The irony of not being human is somehow lost on me. It is very human to kill animals for gain, weve been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years, its actually a very very modern trend to be animal cuddly" The irony is that humans have virtually wiped out that species. It was brought into captivity for protection of it and hopefully its' species. It was slaughtered while there for its horn. It's not complicated. | |||
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"The irony of not being human is somehow lost on me. It is very human to kill animals for gain, weve been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years, its actually a very very modern trend to be animal cuddly The irony is that humans have virtually wiped out that species. It was brought into captivity for protection of it and hopefully its' species. It was slaughtered while there for its horn. It's not complicated." . Its a flipping zoo for gawping humans to look at animals while sucking on ice cream and turning a profit. Dont kid ourselves | |||
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" The irony is that humans have virtually wiped out that species. It was brought into captivity for protection of it and hopefully its' species. It was slaughtered while there for its horn. It's not complicated.. Its a flipping zoo for gawping humans to look at animals while sucking on ice cream and turning a profit. Dont kid ourselves" Cba explaining to you. | |||
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" The irony is that humans have virtually wiped out that species. It was brought into captivity for protection of it and hopefully its' species. It was slaughtered while there for its horn. It's not complicated.. Its a flipping zoo for gawping humans to look at animals while sucking on ice cream and turning a profit. Dont kid ourselves Cba explaining to you." . Cba? | |||
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"The irony of not being human is somehow lost on me. It is very human to kill animals for gain, weve been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years, its actually a very very modern trend to be animal cuddly" This is spot on. Humanity has taken, killed and destroyed over its entire existence, as pointed out it is ironically am incredibly human act. | |||
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"Im disturbed that the western world thinks that it's so superior to countries in the "far East" and middle East that it can limit it's supply of aphrodisiac. Yet again trying to push western beliefs globally. "Dont eat whale meat". "Dont eat shark fin soup"."stop killing all the elephants". "Women are equal and should be educated". Etc etc.. what gives us the right?! 7/10 - I didn't think it would fly at first. Kudos. " I was surprised at the results myself! | |||
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"Cant be arsed?. Ha brilliant more irony " Are you sure you know what irony is? It isn't something like metal you know. Ask Jeeves is your friend.. | |||
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" Should play them at their own game, like they have factories producing fake tobacco made from who knows what use toe nail clippings powdered up and packaged as rhino horn aphrodisiac, it's not gonna make any difference to the effect on the user... xx " Maybe folk could donate one dreadlock, to pass off a rhino horn. | |||
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" Should play them at their own game, like they have factories producing fake tobacco made from who knows what use toe nail clippings powdered up and packaged as rhino horn aphrodisiac, it's not gonna make any difference to the effect on the user... xx " That's not such a bad idea, devalue the rhino horn by oversupply in the market. Many things about this are a concern, not the least of which is someone in France has a gun capable of killing a rhino, and after firing it had time to cut off the horn and make an escape... for those on this thread who say it's wrong to kill an animal for money, think that over while putting on your leather shoes and wandering off to buy your burger and chips... If you happen to be vegan, them consider what happens to stop rats mice & rabbits eating your pulses and carrots... It's sad and worrying that it happened, but it's one of the many sick and sad things humans do every day. | |||
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"It's sort of on thread .... but if anyone expressing the true (and very real) horror of the situation buys 2.99 chickens at Tesco, or looks for the cheapest non organic milk, or eats cheap farmed fish, or value sausages, or feeds their dogs tinned meat, or buys cheap eggs or turns a blind eye to inhumane farming practices on our doorstep which is all about making money from the suffering of animals.... you really cannot justify your high horse. What happened to the rhino was sick. What happens every day ,fuelled by us, the bargain driven consumer, is equally sick. .... passes on soap box to the next person ..... " Both are sick, agreed. I diverge on the 'equally sick'. The intensive farming is bad, but has some crap level of justification. The rhino is nearly extinct due to humans and has been killed for nothing. | |||
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