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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just reading the end of that pregnant smoking thread and was interested in reading people's views on addictions, so continue please....

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Millions of people manage to give up smoking, a baby is a great incentive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I said what i believe already

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it depends a lot on if you have an addictive personality..

its easier to give up anything if you don't have that..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didnt read the other thread but addictions are a strange thing.. even sugar is addictive.. my dad has to give up sugar and its a massive adjustment for him, he's had a headache for weeks and is so grumpy and surly at times its nuts.

Whilst other addictions to more harmful substances are being used as an escape from a shit life or events some people are addicted purely because they wanted to do it.. its a hard thing to go into really as every case is as unique as the person is

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"I didnt read the other thread but addictions are a strange thing.. even sugar is addictive.. my dad has to give up sugar and its a massive adjustment for him, he's had a headache for weeks and is so grumpy and surly at times its nuts.

Whilst other addictions to more harmful substances are being used as an escape from a shit life or events some people are addicted purely because they wanted to do it.. its a hard thing to go into really as every case is as unique as the person is "

Well, it was really a thread about not smoking while pregnant, but got twisted into a thing about addiction.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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molecular biology and neurology explains how we get something from chemicals and it causes drives in us. these chemicals seem important to our survival, singularly as well as for our species.

we can create these chemicals ourselves, naturally, when we give in to some of our desires that keep us alive. so eating, sex, hugs, breastfeeding, etc...anything that keeps us alive and propogates our species will/should cause chemical reactions that make us feel better after satiating our needs.

our brain latches onto these chemicals and the better the chemical fits to the receptors the the more satisfied and fulfilled we should feel.

drugs can be recreated to replace or enhance those chemicals. and these drugs can also latch onto the receptors and give a similar affect, or even better one as in a 'high'.

and the more you want those fulfilled feelings or happiness then the more you can become addicted to anything that fits your receptors.

now, here's a problem. if we are not brought up in a stable and fulfilling environment then our brains can become faulty. it is possible we were just not genetically given the correct brain also, but consensus between experts is the environment causes more problems.

the first few years of your life are vital to brain development, and that goes for mental health issues as well as cognitive ones.

trauma is the leading cause of a faulty brain. so even if you have a good environment it is always expected that trauma will affect you. you will recover sooner with a good environment than a rubbish unsupportive one.

addicts are just rewiring their brains so they feel something so they feel better, or sometimes nothing because they can't cope with what they feel.

it can be easy for some people to deprive their brain of these chemicals, and some need help. most will only do it when they want to and are in a place to be able to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Haven't been around much lately but I'm reading threads tonight that are just making me shake my head in disbelief, I'm too tired to tap a coherent response right now but I might in the morning.

That other one parent family thread had got my prickles up as well.

Some people on here really are ignorant to life and shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel that addictions depend on how mentally strong you are and your personality.

Two people can have the exact same shit life experiences, yet one will turn to drugs/drink and the other won't.

Some people are just better equipped mentally to cope with life and the shit it throws at you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel that addictions depend on how mentally strong you are and your personality.

Two people can have the exact same shit life experiences, yet one will turn to drugs/drink and the other won't.

Some people are just better equipped mentally to cope with life and the shit it throws at you.

"

I agree

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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science.

hope that was dumbed down enough for everyone to understand and i really don't mind explaining further coz i love talking about this shit.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"science.

hope that was dumbed down enough for everyone to understand and i really don't mind explaining further coz i love talking about this shit."

Doesnt need dumbing down. The intelligent pregnant women will have quit smoking.

Do a dumbed down version to explain to the smokers why they should quit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"science.

hope that was dumbed down enough for everyone to understand and i really don't mind explaining further coz i love talking about this shit.

Doesnt need dumbing down. The intelligent pregnant women will have quit smoking.

Do a dumbed down version to explain to the smokers why they should quit."

I think all smokers know the reasons they should quit. Even those with life shortening illnesses like copd know they should quit smoking.

Another example, are you truly happy with your body shape and think it's the best it could possibly look, you know that by going to a gym 2 hours a day and eating über healthy meals that your body would look even better. You know that by not eating a take away or a bar of chocolate you'll look better for it, but sometimes just knowing shit doesn't stop you doing things.

Seriously this place is fucking beyond.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"science.

hope that was dumbed down enough for everyone to understand and i really don't mind explaining further coz i love talking about this shit.

Doesnt need dumbing down. The intelligent pregnant women will have quit smoking.

Do a dumbed down version to explain to the smokers why they should quit.

I think all smokers know the reasons they should quit. Even those with life shortening illnesses like copd know they should quit smoking.

Another example, are you truly happy with your body shape and think it's the best it could possibly look, you know that by going to a gym 2 hours a day and eating über healthy meals that your body would look even better. You know that by not eating a take away or a bar of chocolate you'll look better for it, but sometimes just knowing shit doesn't stop you doing things.

Seriously this place is fucking beyond."

Maybe they lack the willpower like us smokers

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"science.

hope that was dumbed down enough for everyone to understand and i really don't mind explaining further coz i love talking about this shit.

Doesnt need dumbing down. The intelligent pregnant women will have quit smoking.

Do a dumbed down version to explain to the smokers why they should quit.

I think all smokers know the reasons they should quit. Even those with life shortening illnesses like copd know they should quit smoking.

Another example, are you truly happy with your body shape and think it's the best it could possibly look, you know that by going to a gym 2 hours a day and eating über healthy meals that your body would look even better. You know that by not eating a take away or a bar of chocolate you'll look better for it, but sometimes just knowing shit doesn't stop you doing things.

Seriously this place is fucking beyond.

"

I was talking about pregnant smokers.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"science.

hope that was dumbed down enough for everyone to understand and i really don't mind explaining further coz i love talking about this shit.

Doesnt need dumbing down. The intelligent pregnant women will have quit smoking.

Do a dumbed down version to explain to the smokers why they should quit."

my mum's really intelligent, she didn't give up smoking. not because she is stupid but because addictions are not that simple.

this topic is about addictions btw and not about shaming pregnant women.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"science.

hope that was dumbed down enough for everyone to understand and i really don't mind explaining further coz i love talking about this shit.

Doesnt need dumbing down. The intelligent pregnant women will have quit smoking.

Do a dumbed down version to explain to the smokers why they should quit.

I think all smokers know the reasons they should quit. Even those with life shortening illnesses like copd know they should quit smoking.

Another example, are you truly happy with your body shape and think it's the best it could possibly look, you know that by going to a gym 2 hours a day and eating über healthy meals that your body would look even better. You know that by not eating a take away or a bar of chocolate you'll look better for it, but sometimes just knowing shit doesn't stop you doing things.

Seriously this place is fucking beyond.

"

i'm not happy with my body empress (love that name btw). i am going to the gym and hoping to improve it a little, more in terms of physically than aesthetically.

i've accepted my body for what it is. a lot more than before i had kids and it was way nicer then. as you age you just learn more and become more accepting of yourself and others i suppose.

i don't see the point in hating yourself when you're a complicated organism that often can't help the way it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel that addictions depend on how mentally strong you are and your personality.

Two people can have the exact same shit life experiences, yet one will turn to drugs/drink and the other won't.

Some people are just better equipped mentally to cope with life and the shit it throws at you.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Didn't read the other thread but our brains, minds and experiences are unbelievably complex - this, coupled with the brilliant system that is our body, should help people appreciate that addiction is not a simple thing, like binary options of either taking something or not. At a cellular level, our intricate biochemistry is phenomenal. Addiction can cut through from cellular level, all the way up and through our mind and our complex psychology.

I lean towards having a taste for addictive elements within me but am incredibly grateful that I'm not unfortunate to perhaps be more predisposed that way. But life and circumstances could have been very different. I am fortunate and would not knock anyone who's in a different position.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Mixing this thread with the one parent family thread cos some of the stuff written in there is ridiculous.

What was it, stopping child benefit, people know that child benefit is £20 a week and a few pence.

I worked in the DWP for years and seen first hand people struggling, that 20 quid a week could be the difference to a parent and child having a few quid has and electric and something to eat that day.

Honestly, I don't have a prostate, I'd never try and talk about how amazing or how bad prostates are cos I don't own one, don't know what it's like to live my life having a prostate up my arse so I don't comment. Same as people shouldn't try and talk about shit they have no clue about unless they've lived the life or experienced stuff for themselves.

Fuck I'm sleepy but you people are making me cross tonight.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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just put that anger to good use and fight them, tell them how you really feel and let them make their own more informed choices off that, if they even wanna do that coz half the time they just wanna confirm they are right and made the right choices for themselves even though they are unhappy with their own choices.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'll fight them on the beaches I'll fight them in the street, not now though I'm too sleepy and comfy. In the morning maybe!

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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i will fight for us all.

also tired here but never to tired to be a keyboard warrior.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mixing this thread with the one parent family thread cos some of the stuff written in there is ridiculous.

What was it, stopping child benefit, people know that child benefit is £20 a week and a few pence.

I worked in the DWP for years and seen first hand people struggling, that 20 quid a week could be the difference to a parent and child having a few quid has and electric and something to eat that day.

Honestly, I don't have a prostate, I'd never try and talk about how amazing or how bad prostates are cos I don't own one, don't know what it's like to live my life having a prostate up my arse so I don't comment. Same as people shouldn't try and talk about shit they have no clue about unless they've lived the life or experienced stuff for themselves.

Fuck I'm sleepy but you people are making me cross tonight. "

I feel like all too often people miss the bigger picture.

Why fight for £20 when we should be fighting for a system where that £20 isn't make or break for someone?

I tried positing on that other thread that child benefits *as they are now* are not the best system for relieving the problems of those they claim to help. It's like slicing your arm open, sticking a band aid on it, and fighting to the death for that band aid when what is really needed is stitches. It's counterproductive - and as the other thread showed, breeds resentment.

Bigger changes are needed to fix the current problems in society. Fair changes. More productive solutions.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Mixing this thread with the one parent family thread cos some of the stuff written in there is ridiculous.

What was it, stopping child benefit, people know that child benefit is £20 a week and a few pence.

I worked in the DWP for years and seen first hand people struggling, that 20 quid a week could be the difference to a parent and child having a few quid has and electric and something to eat that day.

Honestly, I don't have a prostate, I'd never try and talk about how amazing or how bad prostates are cos I don't own one, don't know what it's like to live my life having a prostate up my arse so I don't comment. Same as people shouldn't try and talk about shit they have no clue about unless they've lived the life or experienced stuff for themselves.

Fuck I'm sleepy but you people are making me cross tonight.

I feel like all too often people miss the bigger picture.

Why fight for £20 when we should be fighting for a system where that £20 isn't make or break for someone?

I tried positing on that other thread that child benefits *as they are now* are not the best system for relieving the problems of those they claim to help. It's like slicing your arm open, sticking a band aid on it, and fighting to the death for that band aid when what is really needed is stitches. It's counterproductive - and as the other thread showed, breeds resentment.

Bigger changes are needed to fix the current problems in society. Fair changes. More productive solutions. "

child benefits been around for 100 years i think? it was brought out for the wealthy firstly for some strange reason, then given to everyone.

nobody wants to fix the problems, nobody with the power to anyway. there's protests going on all the time and the media never gives them publicity...i think this is why the government want to restrict the internet, so we never hear about them that way either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree

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over a year ago


"child benefits been around for 100 years i think? it was brought out for the wealthy firstly for some strange reason, then given to everyone.

nobody wants to fix the problems, nobody with the power to anyway. there's protests going on all the time and the media never gives them publicity...i think this is why the government want to restrict the internet, so we never hear about them that way either."

Why does it matter how long they've been around? I don't think they fix the problem they purport to, regardless of how old they are...

And if people want to fix the bigger problems, sometimes we have to look beyond immediate concerns. I get that it's difficult. But it's necessary. I don't think anyone hides the bigger issues from us. I think we choose to be willfully ignorant because the band aid seems good enough *for now*.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree"

won't shoot you down but i don't really agree.

there is still a basic wage being used that does not cover the cost of living expenses.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"child benefits been around for 100 years i think? it was brought out for the wealthy firstly for some strange reason, then given to everyone.

nobody wants to fix the problems, nobody with the power to anyway. there's protests going on all the time and the media never gives them publicity...i think this is why the government want to restrict the internet, so we never hear about them that way either.

Why does it matter how long they've been around? I don't think they fix the problem they purport to, regardless of how old they are...

And if people want to fix the bigger problems, sometimes we have to look beyond immediate concerns. I get that it's difficult. But it's necessary. I don't think anyone hides the bigger issues from us. I think we choose to be willfully ignorant because the band aid seems good enough *for now*. "

the problem hasn't been sorted for at least 100 years that meant.

poor people cope with being poor and that's half the problem. if they ever had a taste of being well off the system would change pretty sharp i reckon. no way would i cope with being poor now because i don't want to. but i used to not mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"child benefits been around for 100 years i think? it was brought out for the wealthy firstly for some strange reason, then given to everyone.

nobody wants to fix the problems, nobody with the power to anyway. there's protests going on all the time and the media never gives them publicity...i think this is why the government want to restrict the internet, so we never hear about them that way either.

Why does it matter how long they've been around? I don't think they fix the problem they purport to, regardless of how old they are...

And if people want to fix the bigger problems, sometimes we have to look beyond immediate concerns. I get that it's difficult. But it's necessary. I don't think anyone hides the bigger issues from us. I think we choose to be willfully ignorant because the band aid seems good enough *for now*.

the problem hasn't been sorted for at least 100 years that meant.

poor people cope with being poor and that's half the problem. if they ever had a taste of being well off the system would change pretty sharp i reckon. no way would i cope with being poor now because i don't want to. but i used to not mind."

That's an excuse for inaction. I've known plenty of poor people (and in the US you don't get anywhere near the same benefits as when you're poor in the UK) who didn't just sit back and accept their poverty. They fought for policy changes that would actually positively affect people. Its just easier to take the £20 a week than it is to spend what little time you have for yourself fighting for workers' rights. And so the place is riddled with band aids.

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over a year ago


"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree

won't shoot you down but i don't really agree.

there is still a basic wage being used that does not cover the cost of living expenses."

Yes but if the country wasn't so over populated with non British citizens then they'd be enough social housing to go around so people wouldn't have to go and rent privately and pay ridiculous amounts of money...One being my daughter. Her and her bf pay 13 hundred a month for a pokey 1 bedroom flat because they can't get a place off the local council. That's just one issue that pisses me off

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over a year ago


"child benefits been around for 100 years i think? it was brought out for the wealthy firstly for some strange reason, then given to everyone.

nobody wants to fix the problems, nobody with the power to anyway. there's protests going on all the time and the media never gives them publicity...i think this is why the government want to restrict the internet, so we never hear about them that way either.

Why does it matter how long they've been around? I don't think they fix the problem they purport to, regardless of how old they are...

And if people want to fix the bigger problems, sometimes we have to look beyond immediate concerns. I get that it's difficult. But it's necessary. I don't think anyone hides the bigger issues from us. I think we choose to be willfully ignorant because the band aid seems good enough *for now*.

the problem hasn't been sorted for at least 100 years that meant.

poor people cope with being poor and that's half the problem. if they ever had a taste of being well off the system would change pretty sharp i reckon. no way would i cope with being poor now because i don't want to. but i used to not mind.

That's an excuse for inaction. I've known plenty of poor people (and in the US you don't get anywhere near the same benefits as when you're poor in the UK) who didn't just sit back and accept their poverty. They fought for policy changes that would actually positively affect people. Its just easier to take the £20 a week than it is to spend what little time you have for yourself fighting for workers' rights. And so the place is riddled with band aids."

And for the record, I'm not arguing that it's better in the U.S. It's actually far worse. People everywhere like their quick fixes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree"

Sweeping generalised racism much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I tried positing on that other thread that child benefits *as they are now* are not the best system for relieving the problems of those they claim to help. It's like slicing your arm open, sticking a band aid on it, and fighting to the death for that band aid when what is really needed is stitches. It's counterproductive - and as the other thread showed, breeds resentment.

Bigger changes are needed to fix the current problems in society. Fair changes. More productive solutions. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree

Sweeping generalised racism much "

How the hell is that racist ffs!

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree

won't shoot you down but i don't really agree.

there is still a basic wage being used that does not cover the cost of living expenses.

Yes but if the country wasn't so over populated with non British citizens then they'd be enough social housing to go around so people wouldn't have to go and rent privately and pay ridiculous amounts of money...One being my daughter. Her and her bf pay 13 hundred a month for a pokey 1 bedroom flat because they can't get a place off the local council. That's just one issue that pisses me off"

25 years ago i wanted to stay in my home town but there was no housing then either. and this town does have a large community of muslims but they bought their own houses and never went for any council here at all.

now i'm being housed by a charity, so the rent is cheap, but still there were almost 4000 people applying for the 9 houses they built. i had to emphasise a few things i knew would get me higher on the list to get this and was surprised i got it.

dunno how many are waiting for a house but i'm guessing it's 1000s still.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"child benefits been around for 100 years i think? it was brought out for the wealthy firstly for some strange reason, then given to everyone.

nobody wants to fix the problems, nobody with the power to anyway. there's protests going on all the time and the media never gives them publicity...i think this is why the government want to restrict the internet, so we never hear about them that way either.

Why does it matter how long they've been around? I don't think they fix the problem they purport to, regardless of how old they are...

And if people want to fix the bigger problems, sometimes we have to look beyond immediate concerns. I get that it's difficult. But it's necessary. I don't think anyone hides the bigger issues from us. I think we choose to be willfully ignorant because the band aid seems good enough *for now*.

the problem hasn't been sorted for at least 100 years that meant.

poor people cope with being poor and that's half the problem. if they ever had a taste of being well off the system would change pretty sharp i reckon. no way would i cope with being poor now because i don't want to. but i used to not mind.

That's an excuse for inaction. I've known plenty of poor people (and in the US you don't get anywhere near the same benefits as when you're poor in the UK) who didn't just sit back and accept their poverty. They fought for policy changes that would actually positively affect people. Its just easier to take the £20 a week than it is to spend what little time you have for yourself fighting for workers' rights. And so the place is riddled with band aids.

And for the record, I'm not arguing that it's better in the U.S. It's actually far worse. People everywhere like their quick fixes."

i know america is worse, people lose their homes when they need health treatments. i'm glad i live here.

it is easier to just be a part of that system, sometimes you think that's all you can be as well as nobody used to give you any way how to get out of it.

i think now most people have access to the internet that's good as you can find out more of your rights or help each other out and even campaign and organise, or just there's so many more options for people now we have that.

i've spent a lot of time studying since i got the internet, which before that wasn't available to me as financially i couldn't afford to do that but now it's free.

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over a year ago


"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree

Sweeping generalised racism much

How the hell is that racist ffs!"

You blamed all the countries problems on being over populated by "non British" citizens ... what else would you call it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree

Sweeping generalised racism much

How the hell is that racist ffs!

You blamed all the countries problems on being over populated by "non British" citizens ... what else would you call it "

I blame you too...What do you think about that? I'm fed up with all the do gooders and I can't be bothered replying to this thread nomore...zzzzz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well if they didn't let any Tom Dick or harry into this country they'd be enough money to go round for everyone and the country wouldn't be in such a state.

I could go on but I won't so feel free to shoot me now if you disagree

Sweeping generalised racism much

How the hell is that racist ffs!

You blamed all the countries problems on being over populated by "non British" citizens ... what else would you call it

I blame you too...What do you think about that? I'm fed up with all the do gooders and I can't be bothered replying to this thread nomore...zzzzz"

I think it sounds like you buy in to the media too much rather than educate yourself and form your own opinions so rather than be able to articulate a defense for your view point you just went childish instead

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By *ink magnolia s yorksWoman
over a year ago

south yorkshire

I have a condition that causes massive pain and tolerance to mess and booze.so

I'm not addicted to anything I take including morphine. I don't understand why anyone else is, particularly those who take it as a drug. Why is it though there's more sympathy for people addicted to Street drugs than people who are addicted to meds they've been prescribed?

My thoughts on people who drink, smoke and take drugs during pregnancy...it's 9 month get a grip put someone else first. That's my thoughts on swinging for both parents while pregnant too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I'm one of those shit mums who didn't stop smoking when I was pregnant with any of our 3.

Always said I would, but saying and doing were 2 different things.

Some woman just can, hats of to them. I was clearly one of the weaker ones. I can deal with that cos sometimes shit just happens.

But since doing whatever damage I did to my then unborn children, I have repented my sins and stopped smoking (we both have)

Why? Cos I'm such a shit mum I decided I (we) couldn't afford to both smoke and feed the kids so we stopped.

Things happen in life, shit things to people who don't deserve it. But often these shit things happen regardless of how great a person you are, and despite the fact you've never had an addiction.

I'm not going to let anyone make me feel bad for the decisions I made then. My kids are all healthy, despite my initial 'bad' parenting. Some kids are born with medical issues despite their parents angelic lifestyles.

Life is full of uncertainties and it doesn't matter if we try to lessens the risks or not, noone has a crystal ball so we just do the best we can and hope for the best x

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over a year ago


"So I'm one of those shit mums who didn't stop smoking when I was pregnant with any of our 3.

Always said I would, but saying and doing were 2 different things.

Some woman just can, hats of to them. I was clearly one of the weaker ones. I can deal with that cos sometimes shit just happens.

But since doing whatever damage I did to my then unborn children, I have repented my sins and stopped smoking (we both have)

Why? Cos I'm such a shit mum I decided I (we) couldn't afford to both smoke and feed the kids so we stopped.

Things happen in life, shit things to people who don't deserve it. But often these shit things happen regardless of how great a person you are, and despite the fact you've never had an addiction.

I'm not going to let anyone make me feel bad for the decisions I made then. My kids are all healthy, despite my initial 'bad' parenting. Some kids are born with medical issues despite their parents angelic lifestyles.

Life is full of uncertainties and it doesn't matter if we try to lessens the risks or not, noone has a crystal ball so we just do the best we can and hope for the best x

"

Him without sin

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I feel that addictions depend on how mentally strong you are and your personality.

Two people can have the exact same shit life experiences, yet one will turn to drugs/drink and the other won't.

Some people are just better equipped mentally to cope with life and the shit it throws at you.

"

Couldn't agree more.

That said I gave up smoking without any trouble in 2000 and not been tempted once, yet struggle with my diet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

are you an addict or are you just obsessive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am absolutely fascinated about addictions and how addictions work and it tight relation to the environment.

This short document about heroin addiction on rats is fascinating

https://youtu.be/ao8L-0nSYzg

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"are you an addict or are you just obsessive? "

obsessions are more ritualistic and based on fear, whereas addictions satisfy a craving and are based on escapism.

good point though coz i feel like smoking is an obsession now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"are you an addict or are you just obsessive?

obsessions are more ritualistic and based on fear, whereas addictions satisfy a craving and are based on escapism.

good point though coz i feel like smoking is an obsession now."

Some of my friends are obsessed with smoking...... or are they obsessed with putting things in their mouths? Oral fixation? Lol

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"are you an addict or are you just obsessive?

obsessions are more ritualistic and based on fear, whereas addictions satisfy a craving and are based on escapism.

good point though coz i feel like smoking is an obsession now.

Some of my friends are obsessed with smoking...... or are they obsessed with putting things in their mouths? Oral fixation? Lol "

i did have some success using a dummy to quit smoking (until the 3 day thing kicked in), but felt stupid using it also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"are you an addict or are you just obsessive?

obsessions are more ritualistic and based on fear, whereas addictions satisfy a craving and are based on escapism.

good point though coz i feel like smoking is an obsession now.

Some of my friends are obsessed with smoking...... or are they obsessed with putting things in their mouths? Oral fixation? Lol

i did have some success using a dummy to quit smoking (until the 3 day thing kicked in), but felt stupid using it also."

Guys who read this thread will no doubt offer you an alternative to a dummy lol

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"are you an addict or are you just obsessive?

obsessions are more ritualistic and based on fear, whereas addictions satisfy a craving and are based on escapism.

good point though coz i feel like smoking is an obsession now.

Some of my friends are obsessed with smoking...... or are they obsessed with putting things in their mouths? Oral fixation? Lol

i did have some success using a dummy to quit smoking (until the 3 day thing kicked in), but felt stupid using it also.

Guys who read this thread will no doubt offer you an alternative to a dummy lol"

i'm vaping now, so i don't need anything else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didnt read the other thread but addictions are a strange thing.. even sugar is addictive.. my dad has to give up sugar and its a massive adjustment for him, he's had a headache for weeks and is so grumpy and surly at times its nuts.

Whilst other addictions to more harmful substances are being used as an escape from a shit life or events some people are addicted purely because they wanted to do it.. its a hard thing to go into really as every case is as unique as the person is "

You don't seriously believe that anyone gets addicted just because they wanted to do it? Really? Behind any addicted person are deep seated psychological issues or trauma that led to the addiction, and for some a pre-disposed genetic trait to add to their problem. Addiction is a powerful and all consuming illness, not a life choice

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I didnt read the other thread but addictions are a strange thing.. even sugar is addictive.. my dad has to give up sugar and its a massive adjustment for him, he's had a headache for weeks and is so grumpy and surly at times its nuts.

Whilst other addictions to more harmful substances are being used as an escape from a shit life or events some people are addicted purely because they wanted to do it.. its a hard thing to go into really as every case is as unique as the person is

You don't seriously believe that anyone gets addicted just because they wanted to do it? Really? Behind any addicted person are deep seated psychological issues or trauma that led to the addiction, and for some a pre-disposed genetic trait to add to their problem. "

Oh I dunno, I started smoking at school 'cos I was a rebel and I thought it was cool! Nicotine is a highly addictive substance, but I reckon it was the dopamine I needed because I gave up easily on Zyban.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no feelings towards it what so ever.

People are free to make their own decisions in life, im not here to judge any one.

Interestingly enough I was born with pneumonia and asthma, my sister with autism and my mother didn't smoke or drink during pregnancy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Addiction in a person in my opinion is when they enjoy something to such an extent that they need it to function on a daily basis.

The reasons why addictions are so hard to control is because your body craves what ever it is addicted to.

Whether its drugs alcohol sex cigarettes unhealthy foods etc.

Addictions to substances or a sex release feel good hormones that the body and mind crave and this makes people feel good at the time of indulgence of their addiction.

Imagine trying to live without food or water on a daily basis?

Imagine the all consuming cravings you would have when your body is telling you that you need food and water to survive?

This is exactly how an addict feels when they need their next fix.

Its not as simple as just being mentally weak that you get addicted?

Its a chemical imbalance in the brain and some people are more susceptible to become addicts than others.

People try and find reason as to why they become addicted to alcohol or drugs or sex etc?

But truth is if you pick away at all the reasons and excuses as to why they think they are an addict. Most will tell you that they don't really know themselves?

Its said Susceptibility to becoming an addict can also have a genetic background too and can be seen in families through generations.

There are also different levels of addictions.

Theres functioning addicts and non functional addicts.

We tend to only point the finger at the non functioning addicts. The ones you see in the street high and jobless looking like a mess.

But addicts are among all of us in different forms from collegues family members to police officers and doctors etc.

The reason we dont see it is because they are functional addicts and can hold down a job and family life etc etc.

But they are still addicts just the same as the non functioning addicts.

How many of you hand on heart know of someone or yourself? Who drinks too much on a regular basis ? Eats too much of the wrong foods? Smokes ? Is having sex that puts them in risky situations safety wise or health wise?

All because they go to work and pay their bills and have a family etc doesnt mean they are any less of an addict than the addict on the street asleep in a shop doorway for instance.

Addiction is a terrible disease and affects people from all walks of life but we only choose to see it in those who are non functioning addicts.

There are many people who are in denial about either their own addiction or of those around them and refuse to admit it exists.

I know many people who have alcohol addiction and drug addiction but they refuse to admit it. Because they go to work and keep their life together they think they dont have a problem?

They use the excuse of socialising? Or relaxing after a stressful day? Or its the weekend its time for a blow out?

Any excuse for a reason to get to the pub or open the vino at home or roll a spliff etc.

Addiction is all around us in various forms and extents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I said on the last thread, if you've never experienced an addiction you'll never know what it's really like.

However they're are people fighting their addictions on a daily basis so it is possible if you can find the right help.

Also no 2 people will ever have the same experience so all this going back & forth trying to convince the other they are right is pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didnt read the other thread but addictions are a strange thing.. even sugar is addictive.. my dad has to give up sugar and its a massive adjustment for him, he's had a headache for weeks and is so grumpy and surly at times its nuts.

Whilst other addictions to more harmful substances are being used as an escape from a shit life or events some people are addicted purely because they wanted to do it.. its a hard thing to go into really as every case is as unique as the person is

You don't seriously believe that anyone gets addicted just because they wanted to do it? Really? Behind any addicted person are deep seated psychological issues or trauma that led to the addiction, and for some a pre-disposed genetic trait to add to their problem. Addiction is a powerful and all consuming illness, not a life choice "

If a person chooses to smoke, drink alcohol, take drugs they know there is a very good chance you will become addicted so in a way they did make the choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....Its not as simple as just being mentally weak that you get addicted?....

"

No it's not that simple i agree, but it plays a part.

I never took up smoking because apart from it smelling foul, i knew that i would become addicted and i don't think i could have just given up cold turkey.

I made a choice not to do it.

Anybody can have a seriously shit life. Some turn to d*unk or drugs to ease their own pain or suffering and other people use that pain and suffering to push themselves forwards in life.

There is a whole plethera of reasons why people have addictions, and their mental strength (or lack thereof) is, in my opinion, just one of them.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"I have no feelings towards it what so ever.

People are free to make their own decisions in life, im not here to judge any one.

Interestingly enough I was born with pneumonia and asthma, my sister with autism and my mother didn't smoke or drink during pregnancy. "

People who say 'I smoked and my kids were ok' or 'I know someone who didn't smoke and their baby had a problem' are missing the point.

On average over 1000's of people the pregnant smokers and drinkers will have more problems than the non smokers/drinkers.

Yes, people make their own choices, correct, that's mostly fine, but I do judge people who put other people at risk by their actions.

MrB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....Its not as simple as just being mentally weak that you get addicted?....

No it's not that simple i agree, but it plays a part.

I never took up smoking because apart from it smelling foul, i knew that i would become addicted and i don't think i could have just given up cold turkey.

I made a choice not to do it.

Anybody can have a seriously shit life. Some turn to d*unk or drugs to ease their own pain or suffering and other people use that pain and suffering to push themselves forwards in life.

There is a whole plethera of reasons why people have addictions, and their mental strength (or lack thereof) is, in my opinion, just one of them.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a highly addictive personality and the only have one left is food!

Everyday is a battle not to give in - but I continue to fight because I don't think the world owes me a favour.

I support myself - I live on my own and I don't have any family to lean on.

I would never have brought a child in the world with all the issues I had as a young woman!

And I simply don't have words for the people that do and expect everyone else to pay for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Addiction in a person in my opinion is when they enjoy something to such an extent that they need it to function on a daily basis.

The reasons why addictions are so hard to control is because your body craves what ever it is addicted to.

Whether its drugs alcohol sex cigarettes unhealthy foods etc.

Addictions to substances or a sex release feel good hormones that the body and mind crave and this makes people feel good at the time of indulgence of their addiction.

Imagine trying to live without food or water on a daily basis?

Imagine the all consuming cravings you would have when your body is telling you that you need food and water to survive?

This is exactly how an addict feels when they need their next fix.

Its not as simple as just being mentally weak that you get addicted?

Its a chemical imbalance in the brain and some people are more susceptible to become addicts than others.

People try and find reason as to why they become addicted to alcohol or drugs or sex etc?

But truth is if you pick away at all the reasons and excuses as to why they think they are an addict. Most will tell you that they don't really know themselves?

Its said Susceptibility to becoming an addict can also have a genetic background too and can be seen in families through generations.

There are also different levels of addictions.

Theres functioning addicts and non functional addicts.

We tend to only point the finger at the non functioning addicts. The ones you see in the street high and jobless looking like a mess.

But addicts are among all of us in different forms from collegues family members to police officers and doctors etc.

The reason we dont see it is because they are functional addicts and can hold down a job and family life etc etc.

But they are still addicts just the same as the non functioning addicts.

How many of you hand on heart know of someone or yourself? Who drinks too much on a regular basis ? Eats too much of the wrong foods? Smokes ? Is having sex that puts them in risky situations safety wise or health wise?

All because they go to work and pay their bills and have a family etc doesnt mean they are any less of an addict than the addict on the street asleep in a shop doorway for instance.

Addiction is a terrible disease and affects people from all walks of life but we only choose to see it in those who are non functioning addicts.

There are many people who are in denial about either their own addiction or of those around them and refuse to admit it exists.

I know many people who have alcohol addiction and drug addiction but they refuse to admit it. Because they go to work and keep their life together they think they dont have a problem?

They use the excuse of socialising? Or relaxing after a stressful day? Or its the weekend its time for a blow out?

Any excuse for a reason to get to the pub or open the vino at home or roll a spliff etc.

Addiction is all around us in various forms and extents.

"

Absolutely agree with this. And yes, I see myself in a lot of what is said in this post too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Addiction in a person in my opinion is when they enjoy something to such an extent that they need it to function on a daily basis.

The reasons why addictions are so hard to control is because your body craves what ever it is addicted to.

Whether its drugs alcohol sex cigarettes unhealthy foods etc.

Addictions to substances or a sex release feel good hormones that the body and mind crave and this makes people feel good at the time of indulgence of their addiction.

Imagine trying to live without food or water on a daily basis?

Imagine the all consuming cravings you would have when your body is telling you that you need food and water to survive?

This is exactly how an addict feels when they need their next fix.

Its not as simple as just being mentally weak that you get addicted?

Its a chemical imbalance in the brain and some people are more susceptible to become addicts than others.

People try and find reason as to why they become addicted to alcohol or drugs or sex etc?

But truth is if you pick away at all the reasons and excuses as to why they think they are an addict. Most will tell you that they don't really know themselves?

Its said Susceptibility to becoming an addict can also have a genetic background too and can be seen in families through generations.

There are also different levels of addictions.

Theres functioning addicts and non functional addicts.

We tend to only point the finger at the non functioning addicts. The ones you see in the street high and jobless looking like a mess.

But addicts are among all of us in different forms from collegues family members to police officers and doctors etc.

The reason we dont see it is because they are functional addicts and can hold down a job and family life etc etc.

But they are still addicts just the same as the non functioning addicts.

How many of you hand on heart know of someone or yourself? Who drinks too much on a regular basis ? Eats too much of the wrong foods? Smokes ? Is having sex that puts them in risky situations safety wise or health wise?

All because they go to work and pay their bills and have a family etc doesnt mean they are any less of an addict than the addict on the street asleep in a shop doorway for instance.

Addiction is a terrible disease and affects people from all walks of life but we only choose to see it in those who are non functioning addicts.

There are many people who are in denial about either their own addiction or of those around them and refuse to admit it exists.

I know many people who have alcohol addiction and drug addiction but they refuse to admit it. Because they go to work and keep their life together they think they dont have a problem?

They use the excuse of socialising? Or relaxing after a stressful day? Or its the weekend its time for a blow out?

Any excuse for a reason to get to the pub or open the vino at home or roll a spliff etc.

Addiction is all around us in various forms and extents.

"

Finally some sense and understanding amongst the ignorance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But the point is that functioning addicts pay for themselves!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have just been watching an item on the BBC news...

the reason we become addicted to something is that if we like it we release dopamine into our system, and that makes us happy, and therefore we remember it more... so the next time if we see it again then we are more likely to choose that thing which made us happy...and so it goes on, and on and on...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doesnt need dumbing down. The intelligent pregnant women will have quit smoking.

Do a dumbed down version to explain to the smokers why they should quit."

So any woman who smokes when pregnant is now by your standards now less intelligent aswell ?

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