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" I havent had any training as its not a role that ive gone into as im only supposed to be helping out? " What do they expect?... | |||
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"I don't get why you're asking. If you can afford not to work there then leave and find something else. C" Im asking I suppose to your views to see what the general consensus is about me not going back? I dont feel proud of giving up if you know what I mean? But I also dont want to be treated like shit. | |||
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"Was it the original transport manager who gave you the bollocking? I'm guessing so in which case I'd guess his nose is out of joint they asked you to cover him it's possible he's worried you'll get his job as they must have seen something they liked to ask you to cover. Personally I'd turn in tomorrow and ask who ever it was wanted you to cover for a meeting and discuss what's happened and how this guys making you feel. If you don't get the support you need then I'd be thinking it's time to look elsewhere. The last thing I'd do is just leave but then I'm a pig headed stubborn twat and won't let anyone beat me. Best of luck. Ps is divine intervention not an option. Ask dad to help " No logistics guy is ok. Its his boss that is the bellend and also hes my boss too. But not the main gaffer. The guy who treated me like shit is 2nd in command so to speak. But its not only his attitude but the fact they expect me to miraculously be able to do a job i have no exoerience of and not willing to give any proper structured training. | |||
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"I don't get why you're asking. If you can afford not to work there then leave and find something else. C Im asking I suppose to your views to see what the general consensus is about me not going back? I dont feel proud of giving up if you know what I mean? But I also dont want to be treated like shit." life is too short to be doing stuff that makes you unhappy if you don't really have to. That's the way I see it anyway. | |||
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"OP you could always go back to being a carpenter. Or a chef. Heard you could do wonders with a some loaves and some fish. " | |||
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"Was it the original transport manager who gave you the bollocking? I'm guessing so in which case I'd guess his nose is out of joint they asked you to cover him it's possible he's worried you'll get his job as they must have seen something they liked to ask you to cover. Personally I'd turn in tomorrow and ask who ever it was wanted you to cover for a meeting and discuss what's happened and how this guys making you feel. If you don't get the support you need then I'd be thinking it's time to look elsewhere. The last thing I'd do is just leave but then I'm a pig headed stubborn twat and won't let anyone beat me. Best of luck. Ps is divine intervention not an option. Ask dad to help No logistics guy is ok. Its his boss that is the bellend and also hes my boss too. But not the main gaffer. The guy who treated me like shit is 2nd in command so to speak. But its not only his attitude but the fact they expect me to miraculously be able to do a job i have no exoerience of and not willing to give any proper structured training. " In that case go to the 1st in command if you get no joy nothing lost and fuck them off. I'd still ask dad to strike the fucker down though | |||
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"Was it the original transport manager who gave you the bollocking? I'm guessing so in which case I'd guess his nose is out of joint they asked you to cover him it's possible he's worried you'll get his job as they must have seen something they liked to ask you to cover. Personally I'd turn in tomorrow and ask who ever it was wanted you to cover for a meeting and discuss what's happened and how this guys making you feel. If you don't get the support you need then I'd be thinking it's time to look elsewhere. The last thing I'd do is just leave but then I'm a pig headed stubborn twat and won't let anyone beat me. Best of luck. Ps is divine intervention not an option. Ask dad to help No logistics guy is ok. Its his boss that is the bellend and also hes my boss too. But not the main gaffer. The guy who treated me like shit is 2nd in command so to speak. But its not only his attitude but the fact they expect me to miraculously be able to do a job i have no exoerience of and not willing to give any proper structured training. In that case go to the 1st in command if you get no joy nothing lost and fuck them off. I'd still ask dad to strike the fucker down though " | |||
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"I don't get why you're asking. If you can afford not to work there then leave and find something else. C Im asking I suppose to your views to see what the general consensus is about me not going back? I dont feel proud of giving up if you know what I mean? But I also dont want to be treated like shit." If it's stressing you out or lowering your quality of life and making you unhappy then get it tae fuck, however have you tried asking your management to send you on a course to get you trained up in your new role it doesn't sound professional or fair for them just to expect you to learn on your feet. Hope it works out in your favour whatever you decide good luck | |||
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"I don't get why you're asking. If you can afford not to work there then leave and find something else. C Im asking I suppose to your views to see what the general consensus is about me not going back? I dont feel proud of giving up if you know what I mean? But I also dont want to be treated like shit. If it's stressing you out or lowering your quality of life and making you unhappy then get it tae fuck, however have you tried asking your management to send you on a course to get you trained up in your new role it doesn't sound professional or fair for them just to expect you to learn on your feet. Hope it works out in your favour whatever you decide good luck " Cheers pal | |||
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" No logistics guy is ok. Its his boss that is the bellend and also hes my boss too. But not the main gaffer. The guy who treated me like shit is 2nd in command so to speak. But its not only his attitude but the fact they expect me to miraculously be able to do a job i have no exoerience of and not willing to give any proper structured training. " That changes things a lot. I was going to say, go and see the next guy up and say youve given your all but are going to have to leave. But it sounds like it's your bosses boss who's the twat, leaving only the md to speak to. I think you've been treated badly, but the rot goes so far up, theres little way to fix it. Live with the crap environment or leave. I.e probably leave. | |||
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"Is it the guy who'd been off sick who lambasted you? I'll answer once I know as I couldn't tell" Think it was the guy above him. | |||
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"Is it the guy who'd been off sick who lambasted you? I'll answer once I know as I couldn't tell" Guy above him | |||
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"Sounds like your agency is mugging you off!, you were contracted to do a lesser paid role I'm guessing, so now you've stepped up with no raise in pay! (The agency will be keeping that!!). And your being treated like shit by your "superiors" who are always off sick with stress. Sounds like a Mickey Mouse company relying on agency staff due to massive turn around and sickness. My thoughts would be. A ask the agency for a raise or you'll walk. B ask the head gaffer of the company to set you on and give you the training you need, offer to agree to a 12 month probation with no sickness and no major fuck ups. C. Make a monumental fuck up that will go down in company history. Join a union and good luck buddy " Thanks mate | |||
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"I'd ask for an appointment with the agency to discuss the issue. They're bound to have other jobs that they could offer you but as you say they do make money while you're in a position. I wouldn't stay if it's going to cause stress. Are you signed up with other agencies? I'd get your cv updated and circulated and upload to online job websites like Indeed. Good luck" Thankyou x | |||
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"Look at this way, The guy doing the job along side you is suffering stress and he knows what the job entails.. You are not getting any support or training and getting a bollocking for it too.. Unless you wanna end up with stress issues too, get the agency to fund you something else.. They sound a bit of a poor company if they put their staff under such pressure. " Sound advice thanks | |||
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"Is it the guy who'd been off sick who lambasted you? I'll answer once I know as I couldn't tell Guy above him " Ok then I think it's fair to say the stress the other guys in is probably from the workload and working for this guy. Sounds a bad manager. If you feel able, speak privately with him and tell him never to speak to you again. Your job is at risk, I've lost mine in this situation but the alternative is to put up with it but you'll end up stressed and off like the other bloke. It's not worth it. Report him to HR if you think it'll help and talk to your agency. Wish you luck with it. | |||
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"Is it the guy who'd been off sick who lambasted you? I'll answer once I know as I couldn't tell Guy above him Ok then I think it's fair to say the stress the other guys in is probably from the workload and working for this guy. Sounds a bad manager. If you feel able, speak privately with him and tell him never to speak to you again. Your job is at risk, I've lost mine in this situation but the alternative is to put up with it but you'll end up stressed and off like the other bloke. It's not worth it. Report him to HR if you think it'll help and talk to your agency. Wish you luck with it. " Thankyou x | |||
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"Take my advice, look for another job dont leave til you find one and for fucks sake dont get into Logistics again cause it will ruin you eventually, 25 yrs in it, dont know a single soul who has a good word to say about " I disagree. Don't waste a moment staying somewhere that doesn't make you happy. If you can get by for a bit, stay in bed tomorrow and tell them to shove it. I've done this three times in life and always ended up better off. | |||
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"Take my advice, look for another job dont leave til you find one and for fucks sake dont get into Logistics again cause it will ruin you eventually, 25 yrs in it, dont know a single soul who has a good word to say about I disagree. Don't waste a moment staying somewhere that doesn't make you happy. If you can get by for a bit, stay in bed tomorrow and tell them to shove it. I've done this three times in life and always ended up better off. " Thanks x | |||
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"Take my advice, look for another job dont leave til you find one and for fucks sake dont get into Logistics again cause it will ruin you eventually, 25 yrs in it, dont know a single soul who has a good word to say about I disagree. Don't waste a moment staying somewhere that doesn't make you happy. If you can get by for a bit, stay in bed tomorrow and tell them to shove it. I've done this three times in life and always ended up better off. " Just a shame the boss isn't here to defend himself, or is he??????? Hi Jesus | |||
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"You would be better off keeping your sanity, with no stress, So tell him to .S.T.F.J.U.H.A" | |||
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"Appalling behaviour, completely unacceptable. Good luck " Thanks | |||
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"I work with a agentcey my self. If I wos you I wood be on the fone seeing if that's a nother job avalball. Till then i wood stay with it just cos at lest its paid work. And if you go you may not get a nother job come in for a while." Could ask his dad (god) to strike the bad man down maybe??? | |||
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"Is it the guy who'd been off sick who lambasted you? I'll answer once I know as I couldn't tell Guy above him " Go to the one above him. If the regular guy is going off sick because of stress etc. and his immediate boss is a total prick to you then if I were temping (and had shit all to lose) I'd go to the main boss and tell him/her what happened. If nothing else it's the right thing to do. He shouldn't have spoken to you that way, certainly not in front of other people. His management skills are terrible and he shouldn't be managing other people. Good luck | |||
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"Is it the guy who'd been off sick who lambasted you? I'll answer once I know as I couldn't tell Guy above him Go to the one above him. If the regular guy is going off sick because of stress etc. and his immediate boss is a total prick to you then if I were temping (and had shit all to lose) I'd go to the main boss and tell him/her what happened. If nothing else it's the right thing to do. He shouldn't have spoken to you that way, certainly not in front of other people. His management skills are terrible and he shouldn't be managing other people. Good luck " Thanks x | |||
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"Was it the original transport manager who gave you the bollocking? I'm guessing so in which case I'd guess his nose is out of joint they asked you to cover him it's possible he's worried you'll get his job as they must have seen something they liked to ask you to cover. Personally I'd turn in tomorrow and ask who ever it was wanted you to cover for a meeting and discuss what's happened and how this guys making you feel. If you don't get the support you need then I'd be thinking it's time to look elsewhere. The last thing I'd do is just leave but then I'm a pig headed stubborn twat and won't let anyone beat me. Best of luck. Ps is divine intervention not an option. Ask dad to help " This Everyday is a learning day, use the place to your advantage, learn what you can and look for another job in the meantime. It's easier to get a job when you have a job. Good luck. | |||
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"I work with a agentcey my self. If I wos you I wood be on the fone seeing if that's a nother job avalball. Till then i wood stay with it just cos at lest its paid work. And if you go you may not get a nother job come in for a while. Could ask his dad (god) to strike the bad man down maybe???" Smite him oh mighty smiter.. Op, have you ever considered carpentery as a career path? | |||
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"Lol I now work for myself ..as in the past I ....well I just headbutt them and fight ppl that talk to me like that..I wont have it..its that simple for me..ive done managers/ supervisors..who ever.. Find what u like in life and give that a go..too many ppl do jobs they dont like. Im just a humble painter and I love it...love it...love it.. Good luck op " Thanks pal | |||
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"I've temped and been in a similar situation and it's made me ill. If the guy you're working with has been off with stress then the writing is on the wall. Depending on your contract, WALK my friend, if it's casual employment you owe them nothing ... and if not casual, get on the phone to other agencies, line something up and work your notice. Ps if your a contractor and you walk, you tell the job centre that the contract ended because you covered sick leave and the guy returned. They accept that casual work and contracts do end, Good luck to you x" Thanks | |||
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"Out of curiosity why the hell did the company hire yoy for such an important roll with zero experience? Logistics can make or break a company in engineering " Exactly Probably because they don't want to hire properly and pay the wages of an experienced logistics manager? So they just stick people in on peanuts and expect them to sink or swim as its no loss to them if you sink proberly as you are just another agency guy? Who knows? | |||
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"Out of curiosity why the hell did the company hire yoy for such an important roll with zero experience? Logistics can make or break a company in engineering Exactly Probably because they don't want to hire properly and pay the wages of an experienced logistics manager? So they just stick people in on peanuts and expect them to sink or swim as its no loss to them if you sink proberly as you are just another agency guy? Who knows? " Sounds abour right | |||
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"I started a new job 3 weeks ago doing something I've never done before working in logistics for an engineering company. The position came up as thd original logistics guy was off on sick and I was asked if I could come into the office and help out while hes on the sick? I said yes even though I know nothing about engineering,logistics or wagons, sizes,loads etc etc. So Im a complete novice. The second day the logistics guy decided to come back to work but they kept me there to help him out as his work load is huge and difficult for one person thats the reason he has time off on the sick as hes ready for a breakdown with the stress of the job plus he has problems at home. Anyway.... I havent had any training as its not a role that ive gone into as im only supposed to be helping out? Posdibly if I do well maybe take over from the original logistics guy if he leaves because of stress. Im finding it difficult to know what the hell im doing as i have no experience of it but im trying to pick things up best i can. Im learning on my feet more each day but its really hard work and stressful with no real help or advice or any training. Today i was lambasted in front of everyone in the office as i handt completed a task he set me thatcwas to his satisfaction in the timescale he had set. I tried to explain that im still trying to find my way and find my feet but he basically said... Ive shown you once! I wont be showing you again ! All this was done quite condescendingly and made me feel like shit in front of others. Who I may add also thought his actions was unfair and out of order for the reason i explained earlier. Me being new and no experience in this role. Im really fucked off and I dont want to go back. The jobs through an agency and i called them tonight on way home after work to explain how im feeling and he said he would speak to the main boss to see what the score is. Obviously the agency want me to stay as they make money out of me as they tag on a couple of £ onto my hourly rate. What shall i do ? The money is pretty poor tbh and theres deffo no training on offer ever so thats not an option to ask for. Shall i just leave and not bother going in tomorrow? I can afford to cope if i left until i find another job. Whats your thoughts guys ? Stay or leave? " If you can't decide what's the best course of action for you, how do you expect a group of strangers to help you? | |||
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"I started a new job 3 weeks ago doing something I've never done before working in logistics for an engineering company. The position came up as thd original logistics guy was off on sick and I was asked if I could come into the office and help out while hes on the sick? I said yes even though I know nothing about engineering,logistics or wagons, sizes,loads etc etc. So Im a complete novice. The second day the logistics guy decided to come back to work but they kept me there to help him out as his work load is huge and difficult for one person thats the reason he has time off on the sick as hes ready for a breakdown with the stress of the job plus he has problems at home. Anyway.... I havent had any training as its not a role that ive gone into as im only supposed to be helping out? Posdibly if I do well maybe take over from the original logistics guy if he leaves because of stress. Im finding it difficult to know what the hell im doing as i have no experience of it but im trying to pick things up best i can. Im learning on my feet more each day but its really hard work and stressful with no real help or advice or any training. Today i was lambasted in front of everyone in the office as i handt completed a task he set me thatcwas to his satisfaction in the timescale he had set. I tried to explain that im still trying to find my way and find my feet but he basically said... Ive shown you once! I wont be showing you again ! All this was done quite condescendingly and made me feel like shit in front of others. Who I may add also thought his actions was unfair and out of order for the reason i explained earlier. Me being new and no experience in this role. Im really fucked off and I dont want to go back. The jobs through an agency and i called them tonight on way home after work to explain how im feeling and he said he would speak to the main boss to see what the score is. Obviously the agency want me to stay as they make money out of me as they tag on a couple of £ onto my hourly rate. What shall i do ? The money is pretty poor tbh and theres deffo no training on offer ever so thats not an option to ask for. Shall i just leave and not bother going in tomorrow? I can afford to cope if i left until i find another job. Whats your thoughts guys ? Stay or leave? If you can't decide what's the best course of action for you, how do you expect a group of strangers to help you? " I like the personal opinions from individuals in here and it can give you sound realistic advice as a collective too. It helps me get good understanding on the best course of action to take from peoples unbiased views on it. Thats why I enjoy the forums as theres some great people in here who can give sound realistic advice | |||
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"I guess now you can see why the other guy is overwhelmed and stressed out. If you want to stay, you'll have to tackle the issue head on, by approaching the appropriate person to ask for proper training and make it clear to the person who berated you that you aren't prepared to accept that treatment. Personally, I wouldn't bother, as toxic workplace environments are caused by poor senior management and it tends to be pervasive, you won't change it from the bottom up. " Well explained thankyou x | |||
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"I guess now you can see why the other guy is overwhelmed and stressed out. If you want to stay, you'll have to tackle the issue head on, by approaching the appropriate person to ask for proper training and make it clear to the person who berated you that you aren't prepared to accept that treatment. Personally, I wouldn't bother, as toxic workplace environments are caused by poor senior management and it tends to be pervasive, you won't change it from the bottom up. Well explained thankyou x " If you do decide to stay, give it a specific timespan in which you expect improvement, don't just go in every day hoping today might be better, you end up more invested and feeling more of a failure at the thought of leaving. | |||
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"They've already driven one poor guy to the verge of a breakdown and now they are starting on you? I'd jump ship and swim like hell personally, life's to short for that kind of bs." Cheers x | |||
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"Have a word all round with those concerned - the agency and the work place. Treatment like that is unacceptable. On the brightside - soon be Easter, which I believe is YOUR time. Just think how amazed they will be when they hear of your demise on the Friday and you walk back amongst them 3 days later. " Ha Ha Thanks | |||
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"I go with what fire blade said. Leaving with no closure sounds like what bellend might quite like you to do, I wouldn't give him the satisfaction. And, because I'm a stranger I do have your best interests at heart " Of course you do darling ? I decided not to go back today. So think i will spring clean my house | |||
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" Of course you do darling ? Sarcasm? That's sad " No it was playful and innocent. You know id have no problem messaging you in person if i wanted to say something derogatory x | |||
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" Of course you do darling ? Sarcasm? That's sad No it was playful and innocent. You know id have no problem messaging you in person if i wanted to say something derogatory x" Meow. I'm out. | |||
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"IMO, never walk from a job unless you have something bigger and better to go after. Is 'He' the guy who was off sick and is now back, if so he's obviously feels threatened. Don't let the actions of one guy put you off, if it's a role you can develop into maybe it's worth sticking at??? " Thanks mate but without any training in place or any structure in that place then nothing will improve. Thats why people havent stuck it as its too much of a mess and with that comes stress all for peanuts agency rates with no intention of them giving anyone contracts. Ive sent sn email in explaining my reasons for leaving. Lifes too short go be treated like shit and im too old for it too. | |||
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"How's it going? Have you found a new job?" Um, he UNLOSed | |||
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"Was that Jesus?" It's not even Easter yet. I'll keep an eye out three days after.... | |||
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"Oh! I liked his posts " Sounds like he quit his job though so that's good. | |||
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"Oh! I liked his posts Sounds like he quit his job though so that's good. " His boss will be relieved | |||
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"IMO, never walk from a job unless you have something bigger and better to go after. Is 'He' the guy who was off sick and is now back, if so he's obviously feels threatened. Don't let the actions of one guy put you off, if it's a role you can develop into maybe it's worth sticking at??? " Bad advice. Sanity is more important than money. | |||
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"I started a new job 3 weeks ago doing something I've never done before working in logistics for an engineering company. The position came up as thd original logistics guy was off on sick and I was asked if I could come into the office and help out while hes on the sick? I said yes even though I know nothing about engineering,logistics or wagons, sizes,loads etc etc. So Im a complete novice. The second day the logistics guy decided to come back to work but they kept me there to help him out as his work load is huge and difficult for one person thats the reason he has time off on the sick as hes ready for a breakdown with the stress of the job plus he has problems at home. Anyway.... I havent had any training as its not a role that ive gone into as im only supposed to be helping out? Posdibly if I do well maybe take over from the original logistics guy if he leaves because of stress. Im finding it difficult to know what the hell im doing as i have no experience of it but im trying to pick things up best i can. Im learning on my feet more each day but its really hard work and stressful with no real help or advice or any training. Today i was lambasted in front of everyone in the office as i handt completed a task he set me thatcwas to his satisfaction in the timescale he had set. I tried to explain that im still trying to find my way and find my feet but he basically said... Ive shown you once! I wont be showing you again ! All this was done quite condescendingly and made me feel like shit in front of others. Who I may add also thought his actions was unfair and out of order for the reason i explained earlier. Me being new and no experience in this role. Im really fucked off and I dont want to go back. The jobs through an agency and i called them tonight on way home after work to explain how im feeling and he said he would speak to the main boss to see what the score is. Obviously the agency want me to stay as they make money out of me as they tag on a couple of £ onto my hourly rate. What shall i do ? The money is pretty poor tbh and theres deffo no training on offer ever so thats not an option to ask for. Shall i just leave and not bother going in tomorrow? I can afford to cope if i left until i find another job. Whats your thoughts guys ? Stay or leave? " Leave. They are not worth your time. You come across as a genuine guy with a lot to offer. They're at it. Good luck, let us know how you get on xxx | |||
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"You lot made him leave the site! " No, apparently his wife did. Or his mistress, or her lover, or the cats step uncle. It gets so confusing at times! | |||
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"You lot made him leave the site! No, apparently his wife did. Or his mistress, or her lover, or the cats step uncle. It gets so confusing at times!" I *think* you've got the wrong person... Unless I've got the wrong person... | |||
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"You lot made him leave the site! " I thought we were advising leaving his job. | |||
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"You lot made him leave the site! No, apparently his wife did. Or his mistress, or her lover, or the cats step uncle. It gets so confusing at times! I *think* you've got the wrong person... Unless I've got the wrong person..." I dont think you have Courtney | |||
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"You lot made him leave the site! No, apparently his wife did. Or his mistress, or her lover, or the cats step uncle. It gets so confusing at times! I *think* you've got the wrong person... Unless I've got the wrong person..." Oh, that. Me too then. I thought it was jesus who asked about his job. | |||
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"He was Fab logistics manager. Leaving the job and unlos were the same thing." :D makes perfect sense now | |||
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"Get the strangly innapropriate to anyone who hasn't had enough lysergic acid diethylamide in their lives, chocolate eggs and rabbits handy, Rumor has it that Jesus has risen again" His 3rd coming? | |||
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"Get the strangly innapropriate to anyone who hasn't had enough lysergic acid diethylamide in their lives, chocolate eggs and rabbits handy, Rumor has it that Jesus has risen again His 3rd coming? " 3RD, 5TH how the bloody hell should I know, My youth is sufficiently miss spent to get the rabbit and egg connections, struggling with the chocolate, thought that was what happened when a Portuguese Italian shagged a Spanish queen and was sent west with a boat load of criminals | |||
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