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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Who has been caught by the seemingly army of policemen today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"eh?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who has been caught by the seemingly army of policemen today"
As I never use a mobile when driving I am not bothered how many checks the police do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The blitz on using mobiles whilst at the wheel

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. "
my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

6 points and up to 2000 fine will not stop idiots using their phones whilst driving, in the same way that a potential 3 points and up to 1000 fine didn't. I can never understand why anyone has a need to use their phone whilst driving.

I am fortunate that my phone connects to the stereo automatically so i never need to touch it, plus nobody likes me anyway lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you hear how many deaths were caused as a direct result of drivers using their mobiles then there is no argument for it. Not even when you are at traffic lights or stopping at a junction etc.

Just a shame this wasnt made illegal some years ago, it may have prevented so many deaths.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i no longer own a mobile phone, no problem here

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"The blitz on using mobiles whilst at the wheel"

Oh that. then I hope everyone who does it gets caught.

Considering the hands free options available, anyone who does that is a selfish bastard who doesn't care what danger they put other people in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket"

If he just pulled it out of his pocket and then put it down or on the seat next to him how did the police even see???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The blitz on using mobiles whilst at the wheel

Oh that. then I hope everyone who does it gets caught.

Considering the hands free options available, anyone who does that is a selfish bastard who doesn't care what danger they put other people in."

Agreed!! If im out walking and see a car approaching and can see they are on their phone I take a picture of them, and their licence plate. The amount who drop the phone immediately is shocking as they know they can be done if its handed over to the police

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i no longer own a mobile phone, no problem here "

Seriously? I only know of one other person who doesnt own one .. my brother in law.

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. "

The RoSPA added in a statement: “Although you won’t be taking your eyes off the road, merely engaging in a conversation will mean that your attention is elsewhere and not fully on the road and the environment around you, and if your driving is affected you could be charged with “not being in proper control of your vehicle”.”

Apparently even that might not even be considered safe enough now !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i no longer own a mobile phone, no problem here

Seriously? I only know of one other person who doesnt own one .. my brother in law. "

did away a few months ago, it's nice, peaceful and definitely no bother for using it whilst driving

i will however need a work one come may for a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll.

The RoSPA added in a statement: “Although you won’t be taking your eyes off the road, merely engaging in a conversation will mean that your attention is elsewhere and not fully on the road and the environment around you, and if your driving is affected you could be charged with “not being in proper control of your vehicle”.”

Apparently even that might not even be considered safe enough now !!"

What about a conversation with a passenger?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

I saw a guy driving with his finger in his ear holding his hands free in place or something.. what's the point in hands free if you need to hold it in place?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll.

The RoSPA added in a statement: “Although you won’t be taking your eyes off the road, merely engaging in a conversation will mean that your attention is elsewhere and not fully on the road and the environment around you, and if your driving is affected you could be charged with “not being in proper control of your vehicle”.”

Apparently even that might not even be considered safe enough now !!"
I think that is good advice . Using hands free may be fine for taking a brief message but not engaging in a lengthy conversation.

I have hands free but still pull in an stop if I have to say more that a few words .

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll.

The RoSPA added in a statement: “Although you won’t be taking your eyes off the road, merely engaging in a conversation will mean that your attention is elsewhere and not fully on the road and the environment around you, and if your driving is affected you could be charged with “not being in proper control of your vehicle”.”

Apparently even that might not even be considered safe enough now !!

What about a conversation with a passenger? "

The argument here is that a passenger is aware of what's going on. So will not distract you at crucial moments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i no longer own a mobile phone, no problem here "

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I saw several people holding their phone to their ear in really heavy traffic today, at busy junctions and on roundabouts. I have a pretty low opinion of them.

A couple of years ago a bloke driving a flat bed truck narrowly missed my car when he pulled on to a roundabout while I was on it. I had our daughter in the car with me and if I could have got hold of him I would have put the phone where he would have needed an endoscope to answer it. He waved at me to say sorry...so that's ok.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll.

The RoSPA added in a statement: “Although you won’t be taking your eyes off the road, merely engaging in a conversation will mean that your attention is elsewhere and not fully on the road and the environment around you, and if your driving is affected you could be charged with “not being in proper control of your vehicle”.”

Apparently even that might not even be considered safe enough now !!

What about a conversation with a passenger?

The argument here is that a passenger is aware of what's going on. So will not distract you at crucial moments."

I have sort of zoned out on long journeys on the motorway more then once, One minute I was at junction 10 next minute am at junction 20, I don't remember in between but I know I was in full control of my actions, I think there is a word for it, My point is for most people they are fully aware of what's on the road and around them if and when they have to do something about it, I am more worried about other road users doing something stupid then me, But like most laws brought in if it saves just one life its probably worth doing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who uses a phone whilst driving is a cunt.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket

If he just pulled it out of his pocket and then put it down or on the seat next to him how did the police even see???"
they drove past with a camera mounted on the roof of their car, he too hates people who use mobiles etc whilst driving, his phone to is voice activated through stereo

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket

If he just pulled it out of his pocket and then put it down or on the seat next to him how did the police even see???they drove past with a camera mounted on the roof of their car, he too hates people who use mobiles etc whilst driving, his phone to is voice activated through stereo"

As I understand it, from all the press today, even touching the phone is punishable. Someone on Breakfast asked about the phone being used as a SatNav and you can do that as long as you don't touch it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket"

The fact that he was taking it out of his pocket means he didn't have full focus on his driving and that's the point of the law. It is incredibly grey though as things like changing the stereo, turning the heater up, eating or drinking also do this. It's an incredibly difficult law to enforce I would imagine

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket

The fact that he was taking it out of his pocket means he didn't have full focus on his driving and that's the point of the law. It is incredibly grey though as things like changing the stereo, turning the heater up, eating or drinking also do this. It's an incredibly difficult law to enforce I would imagine"

People have been ticketed for eating and drinking.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket

The fact that he was taking it out of his pocket means he didn't have full focus on his driving and that's the point of the law. It is incredibly grey though as things like changing the stereo, turning the heater up, eating or drinking also do this. It's an incredibly difficult law to enforce I would imagine"
he had2 phones and his wallet digging into his groin that distracted his focus, devil and the deep blue sea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket

The fact that he was taking it out of his pocket means he didn't have full focus on his driving and that's the point of the law. It is incredibly grey though as things like changing the stereo, turning the heater up, eating or drinking also do this. It's an incredibly difficult law to enforce I would imaginehe had2 phones and his wallet digging into his groin that distracted his focus, devil and the deep blue sea"

Absolutely and that's why I think it's quite controversial, not the fact that something needs to be done about people using phones/mobile devices, but where do you draw the line!

In the days of Blockbuster (RIP) I went in one afternoon for some DVD's. I had a film recommended to me by a guy in there, who went on to tell me he was a long distance HGV driver, and watched DVD's as he drove! Lunacy, but probably gets away with that easier than just taking phone out of pocket, and that can't be right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket"

Boyfriend comes up with crap excuse for using his phone while driving and gets ticket...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket

The fact that he was taking it out of his pocket means he didn't have full focus on his driving and that's the point of the law. It is incredibly grey though as things like changing the stereo, turning the heater up, eating or drinking also do this. It's an incredibly difficult law to enforce I would imaginehe had2 phones and his wallet digging into his groin that distracted his focus, devil and the deep blue sea"

He could have easily taken them out of his pocket prior to starting the engine.

He should suck it up and pay the fine simple as.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6 points and up to 2000 fine will not stop idiots using their phones whilst driving, in the same way that a potential 3 points and up to 1000 fine didn't. I can never understand why anyone has a need to use their phone whilst driving.

I am fortunate that my phone connects to the stereo automatically so i never need to touch it, plus nobody likes me anyway lol."

But it will put a lot of irresponsible drivers on 9 points (many will have one speeding violatipn)

That will dissuade a lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for"

You realise your defence proves absolutley nothing as you csn be using a phone for a lot more than just actively texting or calling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The blitz on using mobiles whilst at the wheel"

oh you mean the new law from today...

so more of a prolonged blitz...

and most welcome it is too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6 points and up to 2000 fine will not stop idiots using their phones whilst driving, in the same way that a potential 3 points and up to 1000 fine didn't. I can never understand why anyone has a need to use their phone whilst driving.

I am fortunate that my phone connects to the stereo automatically so i never need to touch it, plus nobody likes me anyway lol.

But it will put a lot of irresponsible drivers on 9 points (many will have one speeding violatipn)

That will dissuade a lot"

you are either a policeman or a solicitor...

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By *ficouldMan
over a year ago

a quandary, could you change my mind?

I'm having miss giving about the difference between using a Mobile phone for sat nav and touching that

Or Touching a aftermarket satellite navigation

Or an inbuilt satellite navigation system where "whilst Driving" you can access emails / texts messages / surf the Internet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for

You realise your defence proves absolutley nothing as you csn be using a phone for a lot more than just actively texting or calling.

"
I know fella but the onus is to prove guilt not innocence, I would struggle to read the phone unless it were right up close ,the proof can only a photo of a phone from pocket to seat,not proof enough really

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By *ettyboop61Woman
over a year ago

St Neots

I shouted at a motorist the other day whilst on a traffic jam she told me to f off!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for

You realise your defence proves absolutley nothing as you csn be using a phone for a lot more than just actively texting or calling.

I know fella but the onus is to prove guilt not innocence, I would struggle to read the phone unless it were right up close ,the proof can only a photo of a phone from pocket to seat,not proof enough really"

They have photograohic proof of guilt you have your phone in your hand.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for

You realise your defence proves absolutley nothing as you csn be using a phone for a lot more than just actively texting or calling.

I know fella but the onus is to prove guilt not innocence, I would struggle to read the phone unless it were right up close ,the proof can only a photo of a phone from pocket to seat,not proof enough really

They have photograohic proof of guilt you have your phone in your hand."
stand ten feet away from a mirror sideways on, place your index finger on the side of your nose opposite side to mirror and gently and poke finger up and down, are you scratching or picking your nose?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You had the phone in your hand simple as that.

If u had a gram of Coke in your hand could u use the excuse ur holding it for a friend???? No!!!.

It takes a second of distraction to kill someone

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

They showed a man on telly earlier driving while using his phone but he also had his sat nav fixed to the windscreen right in front of him. I swear some people think they replace actually looking at the road.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You had the phone in your hand simple as that.

If u had a gram of Coke in your hand could u use the excuse ur holding it for a friend???? No!!!.

It takes a second of distraction to kill someone "
there's no distractions, it's no different to pulling sun visor down, looking in your mirrors before changing direction,and as for a gram of if I told the police it was mine they would punish me less and nick me for possession and not dealing, lol

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll.

The RoSPA added in a statement: “Although you won’t be taking your eyes off the road, merely engaging in a conversation will mean that your attention is elsewhere and not fully on the road and the environment around you, and if your driving is affected you could be charged with “not being in proper control of your vehicle”.”

Apparently even that might not even be considered safe enough now !!

What about a conversation with a passenger?

The argument here is that a passenger is aware of what's going on. So will not distract you at crucial moments."

I look forward to seeing all young children in cars with their mouths gaffer taped up then- wouldn't want them to distract the driver would we?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You had the phone in your hand simple as that.

If u had a gram of Coke in your hand could u use the excuse ur holding it for a friend???? No!!!.

It takes a second of distraction to kill someone there's no distractions, it's no different to pulling sun visor down, looking in your mirrors before changing direction,and as for a gram of if I told the police it was mine they would punish me less and nick me for possession and not dealing, lol"

I'm sorry but it's very different.

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By *ensualNorthantsMan
over a year ago

Northampton


"Hands free on Bluetooth. That's how I roll. my bf phones are both bluetoothed to vehicle and normally in his pockets , today he drives down the road, takes his phone out of his pocket because of it being uncomfortable, police pull him over and dispite him telling the officer he could check the call and txt/emails , he got a ticket"
serves him right...a secibds dostraction could kill someone

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town

Never use my phone while I'm driving

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

A close friend of mine was killed 6 years ago by a truck driver distracted by texting on his phone.

His 40 ton truck reduced her car to 1/3rd its original length and half its original height when he slammed into her at over 40 mph as she waited at traffic lights.

He got off with a five year driving ban; he will be back driving now!

All because he was more interested in his phone. When I drive, my phone goes in the glove compartment, switched off and stays there till my breaks or my destination.

Anyone who drives and uses a phone does so with the full knowledge they're doing so.

No if's, but's or maybe's, it is as simple as that.

Get caught, you deserve all you get and you get no sympathy from me. There's no excuse at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A close friend of mine was killed 6 years ago by a truck driver distracted by texting on his phone.

His 40 ton truck reduced her car to 1/3rd its original length and half its original height when he slammed into her at over 40 mph as she waited at traffic lights.

He got off with a five year driving ban; he will be back driving now!

All because he was more interested in his phone. When I drive, my phone goes in the glove compartment, switched off and stays there till my breaks or my destination.

Anyone who drives and uses a phone does so with the full knowledge they're doing so.

No if's, but's or maybe's, it is as simple as that.

Get caught, you deserve all you get and you get no sympathy from me. There's no excuse at all.

"
so is it wrong to open a sweet whilst driving?

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over a year ago

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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago

Chester

Only the terminally stupid use phones while driving. Sadly the terminal part usually happens to some poor sod who gets hit by the dickhead whose dinner choice text message is more important than road safety.

There are precisely ZERO acceptable reasons for using a phone while driving. Give them 12 points, a ten grand fine and a 3 year ban.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Only the terminally stupid use phones while driving. Sadly the terminal part usually happens to some poor sod who gets hit by the dickhead whose dinner choice text message is more important than road safety.

There are precisely ZERO acceptable reasons for using a phone while driving. Give them 12 points, a ten grand fine and a 3 year ban.

"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Only the terminally stupid use phones while driving. Sadly the terminal part usually happens to some poor sod who gets hit by the dickhead whose dinner choice text message is more important than road safety.

There are precisely ZERO acceptable reasons for using a phone while driving. Give them 12 points, a ten grand fine and a 3 year ban.

"
totally agree

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By *owdyboy 890Man
over a year ago

Country West


"Only the terminally stupid use phones while driving. Sadly the terminal part usually happens to some poor sod who gets hit by the dickhead whose dinner choice text message is more important than road safety.

There are precisely ZERO acceptable reasons for using a phone while driving. Give them 12 points, a ten grand fine and a 3 year ban.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Only the terminally stupid use phones while driving. Sadly the terminal part usually happens to some poor sod who gets hit by the dickhead whose dinner choice text message is more important than road safety.

There are precisely ZERO acceptable reasons for using a phone while driving. Give them 12 points, a ten grand fine and a 3 year ban.

"
even better sieze the vehicle on the spot £1k fine to get it back 14 days to pay or its scrapped/'sold auto 1 year ban that would focus a few minds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A close friend of mine was killed 6 years ago by a truck driver distracted by texting on his phone.

His 40 ton truck reduced her car to 1/3rd its original length and half its original height when he slammed into her at over 40 mph as she waited at traffic lights.

He got off with a five year driving ban; he will be back driving now!

All because he was more interested in his phone. When I drive, my phone goes in the glove compartment, switched off and stays there till my breaks or my destination.

Anyone who drives and uses a phone does so with the full knowledge they're doing so.

No if's, but's or maybe's, it is as simple as that.

Get caught, you deserve all you get and you get no sympathy from me. There's no excuse at all.

so is it wrong to open a sweet whilst driving?"

Yes and is covered ubder driving without due care and attention iirc.

People have been done for drinking water etx while driving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for

You realise your defence proves absolutley nothing as you csn be using a phone for a lot more than just actively texting or calling.

I know fella but the onus is to prove guilt not innocence, I would struggle to read the phone unless it were right up close ,the proof can only a photo of a phone from pocket to seat,not proof enough really

They have photograohic proof of guilt you have your phone in your hand.stand ten feet away from a mirror sideways on, place your index finger on the side of your nose opposite side to mirror and gently and poke finger up and down, are you scratching or picking your nose?"

Simple question.

Was the screen on?

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By *ishandwantCouple
over a year ago

Wellingborough


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

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and 200 pound fine is meaningless.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for

You realise your defence proves absolutley nothing as you csn be using a phone for a lot more than just actively texting or calling.

I know fella but the onus is to prove guilt not innocence, I would struggle to read the phone unless it were right up close ,the proof can only a photo of a phone from pocket to seat,not proof enough really

They have photograohic proof of guilt you have your phone in your hand.stand ten feet away from a mirror sideways on, place your index finger on the side of your nose opposite side to mirror and gently and poke finger up and down, are you scratching or picking your nose?

Simple question.

Was the screen on?"
no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who has been caught by the seemingly army of policemen today"

Not yet op! You?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not me - and I never will because when I'm in the car, my phone stays where it belongs - in my pocket. Bluetooth handles things very well for me.

I'm really happy to see the increase in penalties - lets hope the police are able to follow it through and make mobile use, whilst driving, equally as antisocial and abhorrent as drink/drug driving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have long said that phones should introduce a driving mode in the same way as they have a flight mode. It would simple technology.

If you are using your phone as a GPS then message functions should be disbled. It would solve a lot of the problems

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have long said that phones should introduce a driving mode in the same way as they have a flight mode. It would simple technology.

If you are using your phone as a GPS then message functions should be disbled. It would solve a lot of the problems "

Shame if you're a passenger though .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have long said that phones should introduce a driving mode in the same way as they have a flight mode. It would simple technology.

If you are using your phone as a GPS then message functions should be disbled. It would solve a lot of the problems

Shame if you're a passenger though ..... "

Tough on the passenger but I'm sure if you were that passenger, you'd want the driver concentrating on the road?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

"

Totally agree the amount of times you get cut up or pulled out on and it's because there using the phone. Shocks me how many truck drivers you see using them and before I get slatted for singling out trucks drivers I'm one myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have long said that phones should introduce a driving mode in the same way as they have a flight mode. It would simple technology.

If you are using your phone as a GPS then message functions should be disbled. It would solve a lot of the problems

Shame if you're a passenger though ..... "

Why would it? I said "like flight mode". Planes don't automatically acivate flight mode. So why would having a 'driving mode' have any impact on passengers?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I'm always amazed to see a driver using their phone when they have a passenger. Why doesn't the passenger make the clearly life or death phone call?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sneezed once on a roundabout and nearly rear ended someone. Distractions could only take a split second but a distraction never the less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have long said that phones should introduce a driving mode in the same way as they have a flight mode. It would simple technology.

If you are using your phone as a GPS then message functions should be disbled. It would solve a lot of the problems

Shame if you're a passenger though .....

Why would it? I said "like flight mode". Planes don't automatically acivate flight mode. So why would having a 'driving mode' have any impact on passengers? "

There is a drive mode. Power off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The male half here, I get really wound up with people who dont pay attention when driving,especially phones,ladies and make up, the ticket says on offence USE MOBILE PHONE, I will be appealing, if I take something out of my pocket why should I be punished, my daughter and I were hit by a lady on a phone, if I just accept this bull I have my insurance increased etc , it's my opinion that they think I was using my phone, so my numbers will be surrendered for phone logs to be asked for"

The issue you have, is that for your claim of "removing from pocket" to place elsewhere for comfort reasons, simply indicates that you were driving whilst distracted by doing something else.

How did the cop establish from a moving car (or stationery?) that you had a mobile phone?

If it went from someone driving, to being pulled out of trousers (I'm talking phone here) then unless you waved it around before placing it on centre console or elsewhere? It doesn't make sense.

I recall past mobile phone legal cases, where people were prosecuted simply for doing something else, other than driving, in a moving car. Even stationery cars, and use of mobile phone, don't escape punishment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Has anyone appealed and been successful, im thinking that the answer is no

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Has anyone appealed and been successful, im thinking that the answer is no"

I don't know. Do you have to be actually using the phone or just holding it with intent to use it. The first would be easy to disprove the second not so easy to prove or disprove.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Has anyone appealed and been successful, im thinking that the answer is no

I don't know. Do you have to be actually using the phone or just holding it with intent to use it. The first would be easy to disprove the second not so easy to prove or disprove."
apparently you can be prosecuted for just touching a mobile device including sat nav

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Has anyone appealed and been successful, im thinking that the answer is no

I don't know. Do you have to be actually using the phone or just holding it with intent to use it. The first would be easy to disprove the second not so easy to prove or disprove.apparently you can be prosecuted for just touching a mobile device including sat nav"

I see. It's not looking good is it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The blitz on using mobiles whilst at the wheel

Oh that. then I hope everyone who does it gets caught.

Considering the hands free options available, anyone who does that is a selfish bastard who doesn't care what danger they put other people in.

Agreed!! If im out walking and see a car approaching and can see they are on their phone I take a picture of them, and their licence plate. The amount who drop the phone immediately is shocking as they know they can be done if its handed over to the police "

Grass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has anyone appealed and been successful, im thinking that the answer is no

I don't know. Do you have to be actually using the phone or just holding it with intent to use it. The first would be easy to disprove the second not so easy to prove or disprove.apparently you can be prosecuted for just touching a mobile device including sat nav"

Sounds like he'll be fine get him to call a brief asap though explain the circumstances and get professional advice fusty consultation over the phone is normally free. GL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i no longer own a mobile phone, no problem here "

can i call you later !

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

"
Here here .even if you are talking via Bluetooth is your mind 100% on your driving .I doubt that v much .why can't people say what they have to before they get in a car or after .do you know you are actually driving a potentially lethal device .if your phone is more important to you maybe you should be walking not driving

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"Has anyone appealed and been successful, im thinking that the answer is no

I don't know. Do you have to be actually using the phone or just holding it with intent to use it. The first would be easy to disprove the second not so easy to prove or disprove.apparently you can be prosecuted for just touching a mobile device including sat nav

Sounds like he'll be fine get him to call a brief asap though explain the circumstances and get professional advice fusty consultation over the phone is normally free. GL "
when the new fines were introduced on Wednesday .the police up here declared zero tolerance on mobile users .no excuses whatsoever .when driving you need full concentration on the road.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

Here here .even if you are talking via Bluetooth is your mind 100% on your driving .I doubt that v much .why can't people say what they have to before they get in a car or after .do you know you are actually driving a potentially lethal device .if your phone is more important to you maybe you should be walking not driving "

People walking while talking on their mobiles or texting are a flaming menace. They stop without warning, cut across your path, step in to the road without looking and ignore retail staff.

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By *illdeeCouple
over a year ago

St Andrews this week

Is the new law open to interpretation? As a taxi driver l have a bluetooth headset, it's so unclear if l should answer calls for bookings.

Additionally, sat on rank, freezing outside, engine running to keep me warm. Can l not use my phone for web/FB etc?

Bricking it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lets be honest when you are driving you shouldnt be doing anything other than driving

Which includes rummaging about it your pockets to move your phone / sweets/ putting on makeup /anything else .... your hands should be on the wheel and your eyes on the road ... it only takes a second of change on the road to cause an accident, wether that be sonething youve done as a driver, or something another driver/ pedestrian has caused but you were unable to react to as your focus was elsewhere

Your partner should take the points and fine and learn his lesson and be thankful the lesson wasnt killing someone instead

I suspect such a big fuss is being made as he already has points to add it to which suggests he was already an unsafe driver

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

Here here .even if you are talking via Bluetooth is your mind 100% on your driving .I doubt that v much .why can't people say what they have to before they get in a car or after .do you know you are actually driving a potentially lethal device .if your phone is more important to you maybe you should be walking not driving

People walking while talking on their mobiles or texting are a flaming menace. They stop without warning, cut across your path, step in to the road without looking and ignore retail staff."
They might well be a menace but they are not breaking any law unlike many motorists .there's no comparison other than your comment being silly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i no longer own a mobile phone, no problem here

can i call you later !"

you can call me whatever you want if it keeps you happy

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

Here here .even if you are talking via Bluetooth is your mind 100% on your driving .I doubt that v much .why can't people say what they have to before they get in a car or after .do you know you are actually driving a potentially lethal device .if your phone is more important to you maybe you should be walking not driving

People walking while talking on their mobiles or texting are a flaming menace. They stop without warning, cut across your path, step in to the road without looking and ignore retail staff.They might well be a menace but they are not breaking any law unlike many motorists .there's no comparison other than your comment being silly"

oh ok. I thought I was broadening out the discussion and illustrating that phones are a distraction in many circumstances.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

They did a survey on the local radio station the other day picking out a stretch of road and watched motorists pass by .in one hour alone 29 people went by apparently on their mobiles .of these 21_ were women .perhaps an automatic ban might deter some .but "the hey fuck the law mob" will still try it on .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the new law open to interpretation? As a taxi driver l have a bluetooth headset, it's so unclear if l should answer calls for bookings.

Additionally, sat on rank, freezing outside, engine running to keep me warm. Can l not use my phone for web/FB etc?

Bricking it!"

Its not a new law at all.

The law is exactly how it was its just now 6 points and 2k fine instead of 3 points and 1k fi e

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The government has cut public service funding, so there are fewer police to do any work - it will probably be a law that barely scratches the surface of the problem. Using phones whilst driving is terrible and I can't understand why people do it and think it's okay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To assist with reduction of climate change I think it should be illegal to drive sober and not on the phone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you use your phone while driving you get what you deserve and they should be allowed to confiscate your phone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you use your phone while driving you get what you deserve and they should be allowed to confiscate your phone."

Why the phone and not the car?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Instant ban and lose your phone people will be more bothered about losing their phone than they would their licence.

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By *eus n EuropaCouple
over a year ago

louth


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a driver you HAVE to take responsibility for anything you do, or don't do, that means that your attention is as focused on the roads as much as could be considered reasonably practical.

That includes, but is clearly not limited to, eating, drinking, smoking, sat navs, singing, talking etc etc etc

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"The government has cut public service funding, so there are fewer police to do any work - it will probably be a law that barely scratches the surface of the problem. Using phones whilst driving is terrible and I can't understand why people do it and think it's okay. "

That's very true.

I have a dash-cam, wonder if they want me to start sending them stills taken from it?

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"The government has cut public service funding, so there are fewer police to do any work - it will probably be a law that barely scratches the surface of the problem. Using phones whilst driving is terrible and I can't understand why people do it and think it's okay.

That's very true.

I have a dash-cam, wonder if they want me to start sending them stills taken from it?"

The advent of the speed camera and the reduction of beat/patrol officers has lead in large part to the disgusting driving standards on our roads today.

In the early 80's I got done for driving with undue care, not because of an accident, simply because I wandered over the centre line after some shopping fell off the passenger seat. No gripes, it COULD have led to a nasty accident.

Nowadays you have to CAUSE the nasty accident first, because there are no cops on the road to police driving standards.

Rather a horse & stable door mentality really.

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

New drivers will lose their licence as on probation for 2 years with a 6 point limit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instant ban and lose your phone people will be more bothered about losing their phone than they would their licence."

just go get another phone, how will they police it? buy a pay as you go, get a spare off a mate, whatever. when i used to have phone's none were ever contract or registered to my name ever. as easy to get as a pint of milk.

a driving licence however is considerably harder and alot more expensive to replace once banned.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Instant ban and lose your phone people will be more bothered about losing their phone than they would their licence.

just go get another phone, how will they police it? buy a pay as you go, get a spare off a mate, whatever. when i used to have phone's none were ever contract or registered to my name ever. as easy to get as a pint of milk.

a driving licence however is considerably harder and alot more expensive to replace once banned. "
as siad above take the damn car/truck/bus or whatever else they are driving on the spot impounded gone there and then 28days to pat recovery fee of £1000 or its gone .driver gets 1 year ban and a huge fine that would focus minds pretty damn quicly " oh hiya boss that new Audi company car you gave me well i was on the phone to the misses and you never guess what this policeman saw me and ......boss boss"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn it you are all too sensible, razor wire seat belts, minimum blood alcohol level and compulsory sexting while driving... and let's add in a bit of flashing at truckers too, get the population down solve climate change and reduce congestion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you stand if you use your mobile for google maps. Like a sat nav? I gave mine blue tacked to my dashboard.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"How do you stand if you use your mobile for google maps. Like a sat nav? I gave mine blue tacked to my dashboard."

You program your device with your destination

before you set off and you switch it off after you've arrived. If you get lost then you stop.

Rocket science it is not.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"How do you stand if you use your mobile for google maps. Like a sat nav? I gave mine blue tacked to my dashboard."
iirc as long as you are not touching it whilst driving bugger all they can do . you can be prosecuted for fiddling with your satnav whilst driving and quite rightly as your atention is not on the road

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rocket science it is not. "

Well actually, as the GPS uses satellites it kind of is rocket science

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you stand if you use your mobile for google maps. Like a sat nav? I gave mine blue tacked to my dashboard."

You're fine. In the same way as receiving a text message is okay but reading it isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think of the poor folk that are no longer with their loved ones or made disabled etc,due to an arsehole answering their phone or sending messages while behind a wheel. Ask them if their still or their families what the penalty should be.

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By *obitoutMan
over a year ago

somewhere in the middle


"How do you stand if you use your mobile for google maps. Like a sat nav? I gave mine blue tacked to my dashboard.iirc as long as you are not touching it whilst driving bugger all they can do . you can be prosecuted for fiddling with your satnav whilst driving and quite rightly as your atention is not on the road "

.... so shouldn't the same be said for having a Radio in a vehicle if that's the case?

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"How do you stand if you use your mobile for google maps. Like a sat nav? I gave mine blue tacked to my dashboard.iirc as long as you are not touching it whilst driving bugger all they can do . you can be prosecuted for fiddling with your satnav whilst driving and quite rightly as your atention is not on the road

.... so shouldn't the same be said for having a Radio in a vehicle if that's the case?"
have an accident whilst fiddling with the radio eating reading a map unwrapping a sweet or anything else and you can quite rightly be prosecuted for careless driving or driving without due care and attention. you can have any amount of gizmos screen bleeps or idiots light withing your vehicle if they cause sufficient distraction that you have an accident you face the consequences.dont allow them to distract you and you are fine saddly far to many people are addicted to fiddling on there phone and have caused major accidents until the incidences of this decrease laws will b escalate there punishment till it stops pretty much as what happened from the early 70s to today with drink driving and rightly so modify your behavior or face the consequences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theoretical question, what about semi or fully automated cars?

If your car has lane control and automatic breaking, should you be able to use a phone / radio / sweet wrapper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theoretical question, what about semi or fully automated cars?

If your car has lane control and automatic breaking, should you be able to use a phone / radio / sweet wrapper "

Nobody want to examine the future?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have long said that phones should introduce a driving mode in the same way as they have a flight mode. It would simple technology.

If you are using your phone as a GPS then message functions should be disbled. It would solve a lot of the problems

Shame if you're a passenger though .....

Why would it? I said "like flight mode". Planes don't automatically acivate flight mode. So why would having a 'driving mode' have any impact on passengers? "

Because you are then relying on the driver switching the phone to that mode and if the said driver is prone to using his/her phone when driving do you really think that will happen ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Lets be honest when you are driving you shouldnt be doing anything other than driving

Which includes rummaging about it your pockets to move your phone / sweets/ putting on makeup /anything else .... your hands should be on the wheel and your eyes on the road ... it only takes a second of change on the road to cause an accident, wether that be sonething youve done as a driver, or something another driver/ pedestrian has caused but you were unable to react to as your focus was elsewhere

Your partner should take the points and fine and learn his lesson and be thankful the lesson wasnt killing someone instead

I suspect such a big fuss is being made as he already has points to add it to which suggests he was already an unsafe driver "
clean licence, if he drives1mph over the speed limit he gets a dissaplinary from work, he has voice activated Bluetooth, there are more of his bosses than traffic cops and public can complain on facebook so if he was using his phone with out Bluetooth he would be sacked ,his bosses back him100% btw

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

Got to love the pathetic cretins calling 'grass' on those willing to report potentially lethal law breakers to the police.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got to love the pathetic cretins calling 'grass' on those willing to report potentially lethal law breakers to the police.

"
it's not about grass lol he genuinely drives like he is on his driving test lol

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By *eanontiWoman
over a year ago

Limerick

Mobiles and driving scare the bejaysus out of me. Especially when you see those texting or facebooking. My phone stays in my handbag when I'm in the car.

Massive blitz here in Ireland too on it. And rightly so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back when it was legal to answer the phone while driving, I refused, and got grief for it from my bosses. So I was glad when they made it illegal, as we used hire cars they were never Bluetooth ed up so I could carry on ignoring my phone. I have never understood how people don't get it is a treasured pleasure to be uncontactable just every now and then.

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By *romeYTMan
over a year ago

South West

As a biker, it's amazing to see how many people are messing with their phones whilst driving. Those that aren't usually reach for them as soon as they've stopped at traffic lights.

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley

I saw a guy cycle past me on the way to work this evening talking on a mobile approaching a busy roundabout. Not sure if he made it where he was going in one piece.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale


"I saw a guy cycle past me on the way to work this evening talking on a mobile approaching a busy roundabout. Not sure if he made it where he was going in one piece. "

Strangely enough, its not actually illegal to use a phone whilst cycling. It should be, but appears those who wrote the law missed that bit out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6 points is still not enough. Treat it the same as drink driving with an automatic ban

Here here .even if you are talking via Bluetooth is your mind 100% on your driving .I doubt that v much .why can't people say what they have to before they get in a car or after .do you know you are actually driving a potentially lethal device .if your phone is more important to you maybe you should be walking not driving

People walking while talking on their mobiles or texting are a flaming menace. They stop without warning, cut across your path, step in to the road without looking and ignore retail staff."

I have my headphones in when using my phone and walking but im always looking around and probably quadruple check the road before crossing, though i have the headphones in to ignore retail workers, though not at the till then im polite, in the store I dont want to have the 'are you ok' chat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it ayeeeeeeeee

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By *tep121Man
over a year ago

manchester

Most of those that cycle don't drive, so they are not aware of how traffic lights work etc..

As for mobile phones, my phone sits on dashboard face down (unless charging) It's connected through Bluetooth.

What I don't get is I see a number of flashy cars racing past, with the driver on the phone held up against their ear. If my car has Bluetooth (non flashy one) then I'm pretty sure the higher end cars have it already in. Why not just use it?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale


"Most of those that cycle don't drive, so they are not aware of how traffic lights work etc..

As for mobile phones, my phone sits on dashboard face down (unless charging) It's connected through Bluetooth.

What I don't get is I see a number of flashy cars racing past, with the driver on the phone held up against their ear. If my car has Bluetooth (non flashy one) then I'm pretty sure the higher end cars have it already in. Why not just use it?"

Over 80% of adult cyclists own a driving license according to at least one study. That's a slightly higher percentage than the adult population as a whole.

I have a helmet camera,the number of drivers I see at junctions using a phone is astounding. Just this week i came out of my house at 07:30 to find 3 drivers playing with their phone & one with the newspaper spread across his steering wheel! Once my local force has the system in place for dealing with it I'll be sending them the footage.

When the clowns realise that there doesn't need to be a cop around for them to be pinged,they may just wise up.

West Mids police already have plainclothes cops on bikes & on foot with cameras for doing exactly this, they are seen as the leaders in this area & other forces are following their lead.

Personally, the penalty is nowhere near severe enough. Instant removal of license should be the penalty.

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"Most of those that cycle don't drive, so they are not aware of how traffic lights work etc..

As for mobile phones, my phone sits on dashboard face down (unless charging) It's connected through Bluetooth.

What I don't get is I see a number of flashy cars racing past, with the driver on the phone held up against their ear. If my car has Bluetooth (non flashy one) then I'm pretty sure the higher end cars have it already in. Why not just use it?

Over 80% of adult cyclists own a driving license according to at least one study. That's a slightly higher percentage than the adult population as a whole.

I have a helmet camera,the number of drivers I see at junctions using a phone is astounding. Just this week i came out of my house at 07:30 to find 3 drivers playing with their phone & one with the newspaper spread across his steering wheel! Once my local force has the system in place for dealing with it I'll be sending them the footage.

When the clowns realise that there doesn't need to be a cop around for them to be pinged,they may just wise up.

West Mids police already have plainclothes cops on bikes & on foot with cameras for doing exactly this, they are seen as the leaders in this area & other forces are following their lead.

Personally, the penalty is nowhere near severe enough. Instant removal of license should be the penalty. "

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