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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ??" Only if you forgot the jiffy lemon | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ??" No, if they can't get along with regular waxing or shaving, sugaring is perfectly acceptable.. | |||
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"Its where an older man pays a student monthly allowance . And gets sexual favours" Ohhh, and then the student uses the money for hair removal. I get it now. | |||
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"Meh - if they're over 18 then they're adults. It's only wrong if you feel like it is. You're essentially paying for a prostitute. You get sex they get an education. It's better than they go to buy drugs with it " very true | |||
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"Are you considering this? If so have you spoken to a student about this? It all depends on the people involved I guess." no there was an item on bbc midlands news about it | |||
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"Are you considering this? If so have you spoken to a student about this? It all depends on the people involved I guess. no there was an item on bbc midlands news about it " As someone said. It's a form of prostitution. So long as both parties are agreeable, mature enough and in no way vulnerable it's their choice. | |||
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"Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds." Ok. | |||
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"Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds." Dafuuuuuuuuuq, if my child did stuff like that id reopen a Siberian labour camp just for some disciplinary correction | |||
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"Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds." And what about for your son(s)? | |||
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"Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)?" If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)? If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. " You don't get paid to swing so I don't see the comparison. I see prostitution as a needs must basis, where there are no skills to offer, education or other jobs to gain necessary funds to survive. I am amazed you would allow, condone even co-opt your sons/daughters into this, as I see absolutely no benefit whatsoever. | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. " What complete and utter codswallop. | |||
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"Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. Dafuuuuuuuuuq, if my child did stuff like that id reopen a Siberian labour camp just for some disciplinary correction" Correction for who? If you start University at 18, in my mind, although technically an adult, you are still extremely vulnerable. My labour camp would be for the John. | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)? If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. " You are bloody joking?... | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)? If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. You are bloody joking?..." I've heard McDonalds employees jokingly liken the job to being fucked in the arse for money... Turns out that some people think that this is literally a better career option... | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)? If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. " I've seen a few definitions of what swinging is. Not one of them says a true swinger advocates their child prosituting themselves.... | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)? If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. You are bloody joking?... I've heard McDonalds employees jokingly liken the job to being fucked in the arse for money... Turns out that some people think that this is literally a better career option..." Lmao | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. What complete and utter codswallop. " This! | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ??" live to sugar a students doughnuts lol | |||
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"You don't get paid to swing so I don't see the comparison. I see prostitution as a needs must basis, where there are no skills to offer, education or other jobs to gain necessary funds to survive. I am amazed you would allow, condone even co-opt your sons/daughters into this, as I see absolutely no benefit whatsoever. " The comparison is simple. Swinging and prostitution are deviations from the norms society has set regarding sex. My point was if you're liberal minded enough to let another person fuck your husband/wife, or indulge in various other fetishes that more closed minded people would judge you for, why on earth would you judge someone that was just another kind of sexual deviant. As for them having no skill, education etc, you've gotta wake up. There are girls studying for PHD's but earning £400ph on the side sleeping with wealthy men for cash. My original point was one many who responded have missed. If you're taking the moral high ground regarding jobs there are a great many worse than prostitution. Macdonalds is one, there are many more, some less obvious. | |||
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"I'm a student and work p/t (until a fortnight ago I worked 2 jobs), and sometimes find it hard juggling things. If I had the option, I would. I love sex, so it would be a win win for me L x" would love to sugar you xx | |||
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"I'm a student and work p/t (until a fortnight ago I worked 2 jobs), and sometimes find it hard juggling things. If I had the option, I would. I love sex, so it would be a win win for me L x would love to sugar you xx" How much???? x | |||
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"I'm a student and work p/t (until a fortnight ago I worked 2 jobs), and sometimes find it hard juggling things. If I had the option, I would. I love sex, so it would be a win win for me L x would love to sugar you xx How much???? x" How much you want?? And for what?? | |||
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"I'm a student and work p/t (until a fortnight ago I worked 2 jobs), and sometimes find it hard juggling things. If I had the option, I would. I love sex, so it would be a win win for me L x would love to sugar you xx How much???? x How much you want?? And for what??" I don't mind... | |||
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"I'm a student and work p/t (until a fortnight ago I worked 2 jobs), and sometimes find it hard juggling things. If I had the option, I would. I love sex, so it would be a win win for me L x would love to sugar you xx How much???? x How much you want?? And for what?? I don't mind..." Hahahahahahaha I do actually enjoy random stuff like this. And who actually comes up with the names for these things? X | |||
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"I'm a student and work p/t (until a fortnight ago I worked 2 jobs), and sometimes find it hard juggling things. If I had the option, I would. I love sex, so it would be a win win for me L x would love to sugar you xx How much???? x How much you want?? And for what?? I don't mind... Hahahahahahaha I do actually enjoy random stuff like this. And who actually comes up with the names for these things? X" Ha ha! I love it too xx | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ??" Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ??" I don't know. im 50/50. Even reading other people views. But for me - I'd never get involved in something like that. | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you " To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! | |||
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"Most education establishments have clear rules against staff being involved with students in anyway other than a professional manner in keeping with the role they play in said students education. It usually results in dismissal for the teacher if found out and also as it would be on their reference from said educational establishment it would hinder if not make it impossible to gain employment in education again." I think OP means student in general not his own student. | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! " Go dutch or go ho'm'e | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! " I dont do that with strangers either. | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! Go dutch or go ho'm'e " | |||
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"It's prostitution by another name." Nice eyes fs ooooooffft | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)? If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. " All my sons my sisters son's and her daughter have degrees from university they got without prostituting their bodies. The student's get student finance, the extra money they want from an allowance from a client is for fancy clothes, booze, nights out, oh and probably drugs. Also don't knock all the McDonald's workers, a job is a job but by quoting McDonald's you are implying it's a bad job. | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! I dont do that with strangers either." Didn't say anything about strangers. Most Sugar relationships are just that. A relationship. Two people who get to know each other, to a degree. It's a mutual arrangement. It's like when one person in a relationship works and the other doesn't. Each contribute different things. Just a relationship where people are honest about what they want. Someone wants nice gifts another person wants sex. Like someone else has said, for a group of people you would think are open minded there are alot of judgemental people on here. | |||
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"Amazed people on a swingers site can be so closed minded about people's decisions. Clearly not true swingers. Why not? if I had a daughter I'd rather she did that than work in macdonalds. And what about for your son(s)? If I had a son I would rather he was a 'sugar toy boy' (if that's the equivalent) than work in Macdonalds. All my sons my sisters son's and her daughter have degrees from university they got without prostituting their bodies. The student's get student finance, the extra money they want from an allowance from a client is for fancy clothes, booze, nights out, oh and probably drugs. Also don't knock all the McDonald's workers, a job is a job but by quoting McDonald's you are implying it's a bad job. " How would you know? Not exactly something alot of people are open about so how would you know whether or not someone earned some extra money that way? | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! I dont do that with strangers either. Didn't say anything about strangers. Most Sugar relationships are just that. A relationship. Two people who get to know each other, to a degree. It's a mutual arrangement. It's like when one person in a relationship works and the other doesn't. Each contribute different things. " That's the bit where I can understand it is acceptable or even perfect for those in that relationship. And that's why I sit in the fence here. Because for me personally, I'd still always think they wouldn't be having sex with me otherwise. I need some kind of attraction to them, I'd hope they were attracted to me, and not just my gifts. | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! I dont do that with strangers either. Didn't say anything about strangers. Most Sugar relationships are just that. A relationship. Two people who get to know each other, to a degree. It's a mutual arrangement. It's like when one person in a relationship works and the other doesn't. Each contribute different things. Just a relationship where people are honest about what they want. Someone wants nice gifts another person wants sex. Like someone else has said, for a group of people you would think are open minded there are alot of judgemental people on here. " Its still a form of prostitution in my opinion. Hes fucking her and paying her and shes letting him for financial gain. Thats prostitution in my opinion | |||
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"Is sugaring a student morally wrong ?? Its a form of prostitution. Says alot about you To me.. it's not THAT different from a guy taking a girl out, buying her drinks or for a meal with the aim of having sex. Its just paying for it in a different way! I dont do that with strangers either. Didn't say anything about strangers. Most Sugar relationships are just that. A relationship. Two people who get to know each other, to a degree. It's a mutual arrangement. It's like when one person in a relationship works and the other doesn't. Each contribute different things. Just a relationship where people are honest about what they want. Someone wants nice gifts another person wants sex. Like someone else has said, for a group of people you would think are open minded there are alot of judgemental people on here. Its still a form of prostitution in my opinion. Hes fucking her and paying her and shes letting him for financial gain. Thats prostitution in my opinion" So a girl who always expects guys to pay for meals etc is also a prostitute? Because by not paying for meals you gain financially | |||
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" I'd much rather my children were in a sugar relationship with someone responsible and gaining valuable insight into their chosen field and getting a good allowance than being taken advantage of being made to work on a voluntary or pittance wage and sleeping with dumb shits picked up on d*unken night out to scratch their itch." Do you honestly believe someone sugaring is going to take someone into their industry after trying to gain sexual favours from them? If taken on do you not think those sexual favours will be continue? If passed on to their network of friends do you honestly think it'll stay quiet that a medical grad will somehow blend into a business environment and not lead to sexual requests? Realistically, they gain massive amounts of money rather than learning the value of hard work. Earning however much for being a companion or for sexual need as opposed to working in an industry and gaining an understanding of monetary value not least an education in work roles. I would love to see how someone would acclimatise to their chosen profession after being sugared. I seriously doubt whether expectation meets reality once the financial cost is realised when being sugared stops in taking on their desired role - if they are lucky enough to break into it. I also doubt that most of those sugaring are sugaring dispassionately. If they were, they would have set up philanthropic funds for students to apply to (to meet with business partners). I'd expect most are simply lecherous people attempting to buy sex. Which leads to the mentality of those being sugared if they are so educated and advanced in their studies. They would realise they are nothing more than a wilful commodity - a McDonald's worker but without experience, having a good escort fall-back option though. | |||
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" Also don't knock all the McDonald's workers, a job is a job but by quoting McDonald's you are implying it's a bad job. " I'm not implying it's a 'bad job'. I'm saying it's less moral than prostitution. Macdonalds goal is to make as much money as possible whilst showing disregard for poisoning its customers and committing atrocities to animals. An escort's goal is to make enough money to sustain themselves whilst providing a service that usually doesn't harm her customer or bystanders. | |||
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" I'd much rather my children were in a sugar relationship with someone responsible and gaining valuable insight into their chosen field and getting a good allowance than being taken advantage of being made to work on a voluntary or pittance wage and sleeping with dumb shits picked up on d*unken night out to scratch their itch. Do you honestly believe someone sugaring is going to take someone into their industry after trying to gain sexual favours from them? If taken on do you not think those sexual favours will be continue? If passed on to their network of friends do you honestly think it'll stay quiet that a medical grad will somehow blend into a business environment and not lead to sexual requests?" No they don't tend to take them on as an employee, they become a valuable business connection. It's not just medical grads we're talking about. "Realistically, they gain massive amounts of money rather than learning the value of hard work." The same could be said of students who's parents can afford to give them an allowance to live on through university, do only poorer people know the value of hard work? Do wealthy families not work hard to keep their wealth? "I would love to see how someone would acclimatise to their chosen profession after being sugared. I seriously doubt whether expectation meets reality once the financial cost is realised when being sugared stops in taking on their desired role - if they are lucky enough to break into it. I also doubt that most of those sugaring are sugaring dispassionately. If they were, they would have set up philanthropic funds for students to apply to (to meet with business partners). I'd expect most are simply lecherous people attempting to buy sex. Which leads to the mentality of those being sugared if they are so educated and advanced in their studies. They would realise they are nothing more than a wilful commodity - a McDonald's worker but without experience, having a good escort fall-back option though. " The highest fliers in this world learn to worker smarter, not harder. It's not always about hard graft, it's about fully utilising what you've got. You can't bring into question the mentality of people who choose to use their talents in ways that don't involve running themselves into the ground doing shift work. | |||
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" Also don't knock all the McDonald's workers, a job is a job but by quoting McDonald's you are implying it's a bad job. I'm not implying it's a 'bad job'. I'm saying it's less moral than prostitution. Macdonalds goal is to make as much money as possible whilst showing disregard for poisoning its customers and committing atrocities to animals. An escort's goal is to make enough money to sustain themselves whilst providing a service that usually doesn't harm her customer or bystanders." But you would gladly have your son's or daughters exposed to sex at a young age and think they'll be ok. | |||
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" I'd much rather my children were in a sugar relationship with someone responsible and gaining valuable insight into their chosen field and getting a good allowance than being taken advantage of being made to work on a voluntary or pittance wage and sleeping with dumb shits picked up on d*unken night out to scratch their itch. Do you honestly believe someone sugaring is going to take someone into their industry after trying to gain sexual favours from them? If taken on do you not think those sexual favours will be continue? If passed on to their network of friends do you honestly think it'll stay quiet that a medical grad will somehow blend into a business environment and not lead to sexual requests? No they don't tend to take them on as an employee, they become a valuable business connection. It's not just medical grads we're talking about. Realistically, they gain massive amounts of money rather than learning the value of hard work. The same could be said of students who's parents can afford to give them an allowance to live on through university, do only poorer people know the value of hard work? Do wealthy families not work hard to keep their wealth? I would love to see how someone would acclimatise to their chosen profession after being sugared. I seriously doubt whether expectation meets reality once the financial cost is realised when being sugared stops in taking on their desired role - if they are lucky enough to break into it. I also doubt that most of those sugaring are sugaring dispassionately. If they were, they would have set up philanthropic funds for students to apply to (to meet with business partners). I'd expect most are simply lecherous people attempting to buy sex. Which leads to the mentality of those being sugared if they are so educated and advanced in their studies. They would realise they are nothing more than a wilful commodity - a McDonald's worker but without experience, having a good escort fall-back option though. The highest fliers in this world learn to worker smarter, not harder. It's not always about hard graft, it's about fully utilising what you've got. You can't bring into question the mentality of people who choose to use their talents in ways that don't involve running themselves into the ground doing shift work." Your last paragraph sums up that was scares me most. That as an adult, you would not dissuade your child from entering into a sexual contract to get ahead. It is the equivalent of being denied a job because someone sucked off the boss on interview despite you being the best candidate and it being called a talent. | |||
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" I'd much rather my children were in a sugar relationship with someone responsible and gaining valuable insight into their chosen field and getting a good allowance than being taken advantage of being made to work on a voluntary or pittance wage and sleeping with dumb shits picked up on d*unken night out to scratch their itch. Do you honestly believe someone sugaring is going to take someone into their industry after trying to gain sexual favours from them? If taken on do you not think those sexual favours will be continue? If passed on to their network of friends do you honestly think it'll stay quiet that a medical grad will somehow blend into a business environment and not lead to sexual requests? No they don't tend to take them on as an employee, they become a valuable business connection. It's not just medical grads we're talking about. Realistically, they gain massive amounts of money rather than learning the value of hard work. The same could be said of students who's parents can afford to give them an allowance to live on through university, do only poorer people know the value of hard work? Do wealthy families not work hard to keep their wealth? I would love to see how someone would acclimatise to their chosen profession after being sugared. I seriously doubt whether expectation meets reality once the financial cost is realised when being sugared stops in taking on their desired role - if they are lucky enough to break into it. I also doubt that most of those sugaring are sugaring dispassionately. If they were, they would have set up philanthropic funds for students to apply to (to meet with business partners). I'd expect most are simply lecherous people attempting to buy sex. Which leads to the mentality of those being sugared if they are so educated and advanced in their studies. They would realise they are nothing more than a wilful commodity - a McDonald's worker but without experience, having a good escort fall-back option though. The highest fliers in this world learn to worker smarter, not harder. It's not always about hard graft, it's about fully utilising what you've got. You can't bring into question the mentality of people who choose to use their talents in ways that don't involve running themselves into the ground doing shift work. Your last paragraph sums up that was scares me most. That as an adult, you would not dissuade your child from entering into a sexual contract to get ahead. It is the equivalent of being denied a job because someone sucked off the boss on interview despite you being the best candidate and it being called a talent. " It's not being denied a job because there is no job! These young adults are setting their sights on where they want to be. I know many people who won't go drinking round town because they don't want to be seen as part of "that crowd". They go further afield to mingle with the right kinds of people in the right kinds of places to gain contacts that with further their life/business plans, and it works. It's not what you know, it's who you know....if this wasn't true it wouldn't have become a well known saying | |||
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" Tequila Mockingbird - I am fucking saddened with your excuses. " And you have every right to be... and it makes absolutely no difference to my life. Have a happy Friday | |||
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" Also don't knock all the McDonald's workers, a job is a job but by quoting McDonald's you are implying it's a bad job. I'm not implying it's a 'bad job'. I'm saying it's less moral than prostitution. Macdonalds goal is to make as much money as possible whilst showing disregard for poisoning its customers and committing atrocities to animals. An escort's goal is to make enough money to sustain themselves whilst providing a service that usually doesn't harm her customer or bystanders. But you would gladly have your son's or daughters exposed to sex at a young age and think they'll be ok. " Exposed to sex at a young age how? Most students are 18 and over and more than likely already having sex... so not sure what your argument is. | |||
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" Also don't knock all the McDonald's workers, a job is a job but by quoting McDonald's you are implying it's a bad job. I'm not implying it's a 'bad job'. I'm saying it's less moral than prostitution. Macdonalds goal is to make as much money as possible whilst showing disregard for poisoning its customers and committing atrocities to animals. An escort's goal is to make enough money to sustain themselves whilst providing a service that usually doesn't harm her customer or bystanders. But you would gladly have your son's or daughters exposed to sex at a young age and think they'll be ok. Exposed to sex at a young age how? Most students are 18 and over and more than likely already having sex... so not sure what your argument is. " Consensual sex with somebody equally inexperienced is not the same as an old man buying your body. Surely you can see the difference? Also; I don't think as many people are having sex as youngsters as there are youngsters who claim to be having regular sex. I wonder how many people would feel the same if their straight son felt that he could only get ahead by selling sexual favours to a gay businessman..... | |||
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" Tequila Mockingbird - I am fucking saddened with your excuses. And you have every right to be... and it makes absolutely no difference to my life. Have a happy Friday " Friday | |||
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" Tequila Mockingbird - I am fucking saddened with your excuses. And you have every right to be... and it makes absolutely no difference to my life. Have a happy Friday Friday " Fridays are the new thursdays didnt you know? | |||
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"Is it a form of prostitution? Of course it is, and if it’s morally wrong so is all prostitution by that logic. As long as the younger one is in control and not vulnerable then it has to be a better deal for anyone concerned than the young lady or man working full time in the industry with a succession of different clients. Good luck to them I say " | |||
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" Tequila Mockingbird - I am fucking saddened with your excuses. And you have every right to be... and it makes absolutely no difference to my life. Have a happy Friday Friday Fridays are the new thursdays didnt you know? " Well he already said he'd been saddened today so here's to a happy tomorrow! Lol | |||
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" Also don't knock all the McDonald's workers, a job is a job but by quoting McDonald's you are implying it's a bad job. I'm not implying it's a 'bad job'. I'm saying it's less moral than prostitution. Macdonalds goal is to make as much money as possible whilst showing disregard for poisoning its customers and committing atrocities to animals. An escort's goal is to make enough money to sustain themselves whilst providing a service that usually doesn't harm her customer or bystanders. But you would gladly have your son's or daughters exposed to sex at a young age and think they'll be ok. Exposed to sex at a young age how? Most students are 18 and over and more than likely already having sex... so not sure what your argument is. Consensual sex with somebody equally inexperienced is not the same as an old man buying your body. Surely you can see the difference? Also; I don't think as many people are having sex as youngsters as there are youngsters who claim to be having regular sex. I wonder how many people would feel the same if their straight son felt that he could only get ahead by selling sexual favours to a gay businessman....." Yes, kids are lying about having so much sex. That's why we have such a low teen pregnancy rate... oop wait ... nope. It's one of the highest in Europe. 18 years old is legally an adult. Can drink, have sex, vote. If you can go off and fight for your country at 16 why shouldn't you be allowed to have sex with whoever you like. There is a massive difference between doing it to get ahead and doing it because it's fun and the money/gifts is and bonus. Ok then. So how do you feel about when you watch girl on girl porn? Most of them are straight and just doing it for the money, which is the same thing... but I'm guessing you've got no objection to that? Porn is basically a legal form of prostitution. You get paid to have sex. Where's the difference? | |||
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"I wonder how many people would feel the same if their straight son felt that he could only get ahead by selling sexual favours to a gay businessman....." Your argument contains a faulty analogy. Also you mentioned meritocracy, you live in England right? With the rest of us?.... meritocracy | |||
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"Its where an older man pays a student monthly allowance . And gets sexual favours" Pleased you know I didn't have a clue! | |||
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