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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/28/woman-who-found-20-on-the-floor-ended-up-with-a-criminal-record-for-pocketing-it-6477942/

A woman was arrested for finding a £20 note on the floor. This is absolute madness

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

That is absolutely crazy. I wouldn't have known there was anything wrong with keeping it, if you have no idea who owned it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And how is the person losing it supposed to prove it's theirs ? Unless they wrote down the serial number of every note they have

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it's called theft by finding you sre legally obligated to at least attempt to find the owner of proerty by handing it over to the aythorities if no one claims it it becomes yours after so many days.

.if you think about it makes 100% sense as without this law you could do insane things

Car parked at the side of the road , pop it on s flat bed "hey i found it"

Want to launder 100k of drug money?

"Hey look what i found in a brief case"

"No officer of course i didnt steal that persons wallet i found it lying on the floor"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And how is the person losing it supposed to prove it's theirs ? Unless they wrote down the serial number of every note they have

Cctv etc, but in a case like this you go hand it in to the station like 30 days later you get a call asking if you want to keep it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh this does tie into another thing about theft.

Theft must have "the intention to permanently deprive the owner".

So if you find an unlocked car say you can grab absolutley everything in it and cart it down to the police station and hand it in (police acfually did this for a while to teach people to lock thier cars)

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

This kind of nonsense gives the law and police a bad name.

You are supposed to take 'reasonable' steps to find the owner of something you find. But was she expected to go and hand it in at the local police station, then go back 4 weeks later if it hadn't been claimed??

Fair enough, if she had seen the guy drop it and didn't tell him, but he wasn't there. She was seen on cctv picking it up and keeping it.

MrB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" But was she expected to go and hand it in at the local police station, then go back 4 weeks later if it hadn't been claimed??.

MrB"

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This kind of nonsense gives the law and police a bad name.

Fair enough, if she had seen the guy drop it and didn't tell him, but he wasn't there. She was seen on cctv picking it up and keeping it.

MrB"

Errr no "reasonable" would have been to hand it into the store manager.

That way when mr came back for his lost money they would have checked the cctv as they did and gone "ah here you go sir a nice lady handed it in"

Instead of "omg lol look at her nick it"

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

" But was she expected to go and hand it in at the local police station, then go back 4 weeks later if it hadn't been claimed??.

MrB

Yes."

I don't think that's 'reasonable' for £20. If it was a higher value, fair enough, but where is the cut-off? A few hours wasted time and travel cost for the individual and paper-work for the police.

I'll pop round to my police station later to hand in 10 pence and see what they say to me. Probable get arrested for wasting police time.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Arrest me

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Instead of "omg lol look at her nick it""

Do you think most people would classify someone who picked up a note lying on the floor as a thief??

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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Instead of "omg lol look at her nick it"

Do you think most people would classify someone who picked up a note lying on the floor as a thief??"

legally it is, and i know that. but i'd only give it back to a person i saw drop it, otherwise i'd keep it as mine.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Instead of "omg lol look at her nick it"

Do you think most people would classify someone who picked up a note lying on the floor as a thief??

legally it is, and i know that. but i'd only give it back to a person i saw drop it, otherwise i'd keep it as mine."

Yeah, if you saw a person drop it and didn't tell them, then that is a different matter altogether.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" But was she expected to go and hand it in at the local police station, then go back 4 weeks later if it hadn't been claimed??.

MrB

Yes.

I don't think that's 'reasonable' for £20. If it was a higher value, fair enough, but where is the cut-off? A few hours wasted time and travel cost for the individual and paper-work for the police.

I'll pop round to my police station later to hand in 10 pence and see what they say to me. Probable get arrested for wasting police time."

i found seven quid in an unmarked envelope when i was younger and took it to the police station, why wouldn't you?

that seven quid might have made the difference between a warm night and one without gas. or it might have been someones food for the day.

twenty quid might be very little to you, it might be everything to the person who lost it.

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By *ndyandMandyCouple
over a year ago

swansea

"This kind of nonsense gives the law and police a bad name.

Fair enough, if she had seen the guy drop it and didn't tell him, but he wasn't there. She was seen on cctv picking it up and keeping it.

MrB"

My learned friend is still right. Theft by funding I'm afraid. Specific Offence under the Theft Act 1968

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So can I still see a penny, pick it up and all the day I'll have good luck?

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"This kind of nonsense gives the law and police a bad name.

Fair enough, if she had seen the guy drop it and didn't tell him, but he wasn't there. She was seen on cctv picking it up and keeping it.

MrB

My learned friend is still right. Theft by funding I'm afraid. Specific Offence under the Theft Act 1968"

I don't doubt the law, as it's been to court and she was found guilty. But maybe, most people would find it strange, hence it's in the paper as an amazing story????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" But was she expected to go and hand it in at the local police station, then go back 4 weeks later if it hadn't been claimed??.

MrB

Yes.

I don't think that's 'reasonable' for £20. If it was a higher value, fair enough, but where is the cut-off? A few hours wasted time and travel cost for the individual and paper-work for the police.

I'll pop round to my police station later to hand in 10 pence and see what they say to me. Probable get arrested for wasting police time."

It was inside a shop she could hsve jist hsnded it to the staff

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

I don't think that's 'reasonable' for £20. If it was a higher value, fair enough, but where is the cut-off? A few hours wasted time and travel cost for the individual and paper-work for the police.

I'll pop round to my police station later to hand in 10 pence and see what they say to me. Probable get arrested for wasting police time."

- yea. Where's the cut-off etc.

I mean seriously its not exactly crimewatch material.

Waste of police time/resources etc

Also what happened to "finders keepers".

I could see if it was like a briefcase of money with say like 50k in it.

Then that's a different story.

Best hand in something like that

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I don't think that's 'reasonable' for £20. If it was a higher value, fair enough, but where is the cut-off? A few hours wasted time and travel cost for the individual and paper-work for the police.

I'll pop round to my police station later to hand in 10 pence and see what they say to me. Probable get arrested for wasting police time.

It was inside a shop she could hsve jist hsnded it to the staff"

OK, a bit different inside a staffed shop. Makes the action to reasonably find the owner more straightforward.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

No not mad at all that money is not legally yours even if you find it unfortunately the old saying of finders keepers isn't legal. And £20 can make a big difference to a low income family for the more frugal amongst us it can feed a family for a week

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think that's 'reasonable' for £20. If it was a higher value, fair enough, but where is the cut-off? A few hours wasted time and travel cost for the individual and paper-work for the police.

I'll pop round to my police station later to hand in 10 pence and see what they say to me. Probable get arrested for wasting police time.

- yea. Where's the cut-off etc.

I mean seriously its not exactly crimewatch material.

Waste of police time/resources etc

Also what happened to "finders keepers".

I could see if it was like a briefcase of money with say like 50k in it.

Then that's a different story.

Best hand in something like that"

finders keepers only applies untill your about twelve.

and it might not be crimewatch material but again, that money may be the difference between someone eating and someone not being able to afford food, twenty quid is alot to me right now, i'd hate to loose that and would pray someone handed it in rather than just steal it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think that's 'reasonable' for £20. If it was a higher value, fair enough, but where is the cut-off? A few hours wasted time and travel cost for the individual and paper-work for the police.

I'll pop round to my police station later to hand in 10 pence and see what they say to me. Probable get arrested for wasting police time.

- yea. Where's the cut-off etc.

I mean seriously its not exactly crimewatch material.

Waste of police time/resources etc

Also what happened to "finders keepers".

I could see if it was like a briefcase of money with say like 50k in it.

Then that's a different story.

Best hand in something like that"
No chance I'd be off on my world tour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No not mad at all that money is not legally yours even if you find it unfortunately the old saying of finders keepers isn't legal. And £20 can make a big difference to a low income family for the more frugal amongst us it can feed a family for a week "

this. i wish i was well off enough to just dismiss twenty quid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How much did the court case cost? Disproportionate use of police resources

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I saw someone drop it, fair play .

If not its mine , the law doesn't over rule finders keepers .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Law abiding cunts get on me tits

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

this. i wish i was well off enough to just dismiss twenty quid. "

That's a fair enough comment, but it does assume the woman who found it on the floor didn't need it and the man who dropped it did.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"How much did the court case cost? Disproportionate use of police resources"

This is the crunch.

In the news today the Police are saying they don't want to bother with court for men who download child porn, because they are too busy. Well , why are they bothering with things like this if they don't have resources??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theft by Finding - offence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Law abiding cunts get on me tits "
That's a good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

£20 is a lot of money to some people , as others have said it could feed a family in food etc.

I personally would,ve handed it in to the police station ( you never know if it was handed into the store some member of staff could possibly keep it and say nothing etc ).

I recently was in town and saw a guy drop some money, he was totally unaware, it was on the street and by the time I'd picked it all up before the wind could blow it in all directions the guy had disappeared around a corner , I then set off to find him....which I did , I told him he.d dropped this ( showed him the notes ), he was shocked that I had found him and was returning the cash to him, it was £80 , he was so thankful and offered me a reward, I told him no need, he wouldn't take no for an answer and kept pushing a £10 in my hand , I said no, keep it its yours.

He finally accepted I didn't want the money and said " right...I'm going over to that charity shop and giving them the £10"....and he did.

He was happy, I was happy I'd made a person happy and a charity was £10 better off.....win win win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this. i wish i was well off enough to just dismiss twenty quid.

That's a fair enough comment, but it does assume the woman who found it on the floor didn't need it and the man who dropped it did."

i'm going to assume that COULD be the case. it might not be, but if i dropped 20 quid today, it would make a difference to me, it really would, that's not peanuts to me and i would hope there was enough decency left in the world that someone would think to hand it in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Law abiding cunts get on me tits "

nowt to do with the law, i'll take or leave the law, it's about decency to me, the ability to empathise with someone who has just lost what is hard earned

see selfish cunts get on my tits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I saw someone drop it, fair play .

If not its mine , the law doesn't over rule finders keepers ."

Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.

You do as you wish but if you wind up in court on a theft charge for picking up and taking away something that does not belong to you remember you were advised it is a criminal offence on Fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Law abiding cunts get on me tits

nowt to do with the law, i'll take or leave the law, it's about decency to me, the ability to empathise with someone who has just lost what is hard earned

see selfish cunts get on my tits "
I doubt he meant he hates people who lost their hard earned money and look to the law for help, probably more about pencil pushers and people using laws to take liberties at least that's what I think

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

Then that's a different story.

Best hand in something like that

finders keepers only applies untill your

about twelve.

and it might not be crimewatch material but again, that money may be the difference between someone eating and someone not being able to afford food, twenty quid is alot to me right

now, i'd hate to loose that and would pray someone handed it in rather than just steal it.

If I drop/loose money, that's MY fault.

Theft/stealing is different when your

intentonally stealing/robbing someone.

So your hoping that someone would hand in £20.

Even I think the police

couldn't really do much to PROVE who's money it is.

Ok, so I find £20, better hand it in eh.

C'mon, if were being REAL honest here YOU wouldn't pocket £20 you found it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Law abiding cunts get on me tits

nowt to do with the law, i'll take or leave the law, it's about decency to me, the ability to empathise with someone who has just lost what is hard earned

see selfish cunts get on my tits I doubt he meant he hates people who lost their hard earned money and look to the law for help, probably more about pencil pushers and people using laws to take liberties at least that's what I think"

perhaps, but that has nothing to do with this thread really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then that's a different story.

Best hand in something like that

finders keepers only applies untill your

about twelve.

and it might not be crimewatch material but again, that money may be the difference between someone eating and someone not being able to afford food, twenty quid is alot to me right

now, i'd hate to loose that and would pray someone handed it in rather than just steal it.

If I drop/loose money, that's MY fault.

Theft/stealing is different when your

intentonally stealing/robbing someone.

So your hoping that someone would hand in £20.

Even I think the police

couldn't really do much to PROVE who's money it is.

Ok, so I find £20, better hand it in eh.

C'mon, if were being REAL honest here YOU wouldn't pocket £20 you found it.

no, i wouldn't. i've handed in less. it's not mine to keep is it?

i was raised not to be a thief, even if it's conveniently impersonal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd stand in court all dressed to impress in a suit and when the judge asks me what I have to say for myself I'd take a sip of water clear my throat and put my hands by my ears fingers open turning them I'd blow a raspberry and go "finders keepers losers weepers net ner ner ner"

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Ok, so I find £20, better hand it in eh.

C'mon, if were being REAL honest here YOU wouldn't pocket £20 you found it.

no, i wouldn't. i've handed in less. it's not mine to keep is it?

i was raised not to be a thief, even if it's conveniently impersonal. "

99% of the site were raised to not be a thieves thanks, we all try to do the right thing, just because you handed in that £7 years ago doesn't make you holier than everyone else.

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

Ok, so I find £20, better hand it in eh.

C'mon, if were being REAL honest here YOU wouldn't pocket £20 you found it.

no, i wouldn't. i've handed in less. it's not mine to keep is it?

i was raised not to be a thief, even if it's conveniently impersonal.

99% of the site were raised to not be a thieves thanks, we all try to do the right thing, just because you handed in that £7 years ago doesn't make you holier than everyone else."

Oh, I never made out I was mr perfect, Oh I ain't no thief either, so don't confuse with finding £20, and intentionally thieving it from someone, cause I've never done that.

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

99% of the site were raised to not be a thieves thanks, we all try to do the right thing, just because you handed in that £7 years ago doesn't make you holier than everyone else."

Wow where did you come up with that stat from. and how do you know 99% of the people on this site that well to judge.

And £7 I handed in years ago, how did you know that are you psychic or psychotic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive ALWAYS handed in any money ive found unless its coinage

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

99% of the site were raised to not be a thieves thanks, we all try to do the right thing, just because you handed in that £7 years ago doesn't make you holier than everyone else.

Wow where did you come up with that stat from. and how do you know 99% of the people on this site that well to judge.

And £7 I handed in years ago, how did you know that are you psychic or psychotic

I wasn't replying to your post, I was replying to somebody else's, read the thread, maybe worth checking that before getting too upset.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How much did the court case cost? Disproportionate use of police resources"

The courts are not the police

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then that's a different story.

Best hand in something like that

finders keepers only applies untill your

about twelve.

and it might not be crimewatch material but again, that money may be the difference between someone eating and someone not being able to afford food, twenty quid is alot to me right

now, i'd hate to loose that and would pray someone handed it in rather than just steal it.

If I drop/loose money, that's MY fault.

Theft/stealing is different when your

intentonally stealing/robbing someone.

So your hoping that someone would hand in £20.

Even I think the police

couldn't really do much to PROVE who's money it is.

Ok, so I find £20, better hand it in eh.

C'mon, if were being REAL honest here YOU wouldn't pocket £20 you found it.

You find 20 quid in a shop full of cctv and think it would be hard to prove it wasnt your money?

Ad thid shows its very easy.

The guy came back for his money staff checked cctv and found woman stealing it.

Its then very simple to identify her if she used a card to pay etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this. i wish i was well off enough to just dismiss twenty quid.

That's a fair enough comment, but it does assume the woman who found it on the floor didn't need it and the man who dropped it did."

Well as we dont have sone random robin hood law it's an irrelevant idea

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Did the same eagle eyed CCTV operator see and identify the person who dropped the 20 so it could be returned?

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

Couldn't they have simply asked her to give it back ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Law abiding cunts get on me tits

nowt to do with the law, i'll take or leave the law, it's about decency to me, the ability to empathise with someone who has just lost what is hard earned

see selfish cunts get on my tits "

Spot on

We wouldn't dream of keeping money that someone else dropped .

If it isn't ours , it's someone else's and we want no part of depriving anyone of anything that's theirs .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the same eagle eyed CCTV operator see and identify the person who dropped the 20 so it could be returned?"

If youd bothered to read the man cam back told the staff he'd lost his money they checked the cctv and founf the woman stealing it

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

I don't doubt the law, as it's been to court and she was found guilty. But maybe, most people would find it strange, hence it's in the paper as an amazing story????"

It's a standard Metro headline..

"This woman with diarrhoea sat on the toilet...You won't beeeeeelieve what happened next!"

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Ok, so I find £20, better hand it in eh.

C'mon, if were being REAL honest here YOU wouldn't pocket £20 you found it."

You might pocket it, others wouldn't.

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would cite the case of Englebert Vs The people "finders keepers losers weepers"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged. "

Man might have pressed charges.

Its an open and shut case with cctv evidence and a confession (after an inital denial).

It will have simply been a paper work excercise for the magistrates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would cite the case of Englebert Vs The people "finders keepers losers weepers""

Also Cholmondley Warner Vs The People. "Find a penny pick it up for that day you'd have good luck!"

Before you ask.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok, so I find £20, better hand it in eh.

C'mon, if were being REAL honest here YOU wouldn't pocket £20 you found it.

no, i wouldn't. i've handed in less. it's not mine to keep is it?

i was raised not to be a thief, even if it's conveniently impersonal.

99% of the site were raised to not be a thieves thanks, we all try to do the right thing, just because you handed in that £7 years ago doesn't make you holier than everyone else."

some are happy to take what's not theirs, some aren't. it's that simple.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged. "

This is the strange thing.

The news is full of stories about Police staffing, not bothering to come out to reported burglaries, not bothering with online sex offenders etc etc But they have used cctv to track down this woman, then it's gone through the courts to convict her, with all the associated paperwork and Police reports. Where did the manpower suddenly come from ?

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

Man might have pressed charges.

Its an open and shut case with cctv evidence and a confession (after an inital denial).

It will have simply been a paper work excercise for the magistrates "

That's still a lot of man hours fir the sake of £20.

If the man had insisted on pressing charges instead of just having the money back then I hoped was forced to pay costs.

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

Man might have pressed charges.

Its an open and shut case with cctv evidence and a confession (after an inital denial).

It will have simply been a paper work excercise for the magistrates

That's still a lot of man hours fir the sake of £20.

If the man had insisted on pressing charges instead of just having the money back then I hoped was forced to pay costs.

But thinking about it no one is going to insist on someone being charged with theft if they get their money back.

Nobody is that petty surely ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

Man might have pressed charges.

Its an open and shut case with cctv evidence and a confession (after an inital denial).

It will have simply been a paper work excercise for the magistrates

That's still a lot of man hours fir the sake of £20.

If the man had insisted on pressing charges instead of just having the money back then I hoped was forced to pay costs.

No she was made to pay the £175 costs that was basicaly her entire punishment

You would completely break the legal system if the victim had to pay costs for prosecutions.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

Man might have pressed charges.

Its an open and shut case with cctv evidence and a confession (after an inital denial).

It will have simply been a paper work excercise for the magistrates "

'Pressing charges' isn't a British law thing, it's in the US. In England the CPS have to decide if there is sufficient evidence and a court case is in the public interest.

It isn't up to the police, or the victim of the crime to decide either way.

So, for example when Clarkson assaulted his producer, there was evidence and a criminal act had taken place, but the CPS decided that it was a waste of court time to prosecute him.

In this case, they believe making an example of the woman for the £20 she picked up, was a good use of Police and court time.

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over a year ago

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

This is the strange thing.

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview"

OK, no need to get in a twist. The point still stands. Read BBC news today, the Police don't want to charge thousands of Paedophiles who 'only' download child porn, because they don't have manpower to take it to court. But they have manpower to do this?

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

Man might have pressed charges.

Its an open and shut case with cctv evidence and a confession (after an inital denial).

It will have simply been a paper work excercise for the magistrates

That's still a lot of man hours fir the sake of £20.

If the man had insisted on pressing charges instead of just having the money back then I hoped was forced to pay costs.

No she was made to pay the £175 costs that was basicaly her entire punishment

You would completely break the legal system if the victim had to pay costs for prosecutions.

He's hardly a victim. If he was pressing charges I presume it was in a smal claims court. It would then cost him £1,200 to get twenty pounds back.

So he didn't want to press charges he can't make that sesision only the cps can.

So my original point stands. Why didn't they simply ask her to give it back ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview

Because this requires hardly any man power 1 officer for maybe an hour.

Tracking down thw downloading of anything is a massive effort involving very specialised officers and also extreme working conditions.

Its akin to the nhs saying they dont have the man power to do regular brain surgey but you saying "but how come a nurse could still treat a random drubk who fell over!?".

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over a year ago

"I'm baffled as to how this gets to court.

This was not in the publics interest to prosecute.

Simply ask her to give it back , I'm sure she would have obliged.

Man might have pressed charges.

Its an open and shut case with cctv evidence and a confession (after an inital denial).

It will have simply been a paper work excercise for the magistrates

That's still a lot of man hours fir the sake of £20.

If the man had insisted on pressing charges instead of just having the money back then I hoped was forced to pay costs.

No she was made to pay the £175 costs that was basicaly her entire punishment

You would completely break the legal system if the victim had to pay costs for prosecutions.

He's hardly a victim. If he was pressing charges I presume it was in a smal claims court. It would then cost him £1,200 to get twenty pounds back.

So he didn't want to press charges he can't make that sesision only the cps can.

So my original point stands. Why didn't they simply ask her to give it back ? "

Maybe they wpuld have if she hasn't denied it at first to avoid giving the money back?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I found a purse with £70 and a house key.

It didn't have any bank cards or I.D. so I went to police station and he scoffed and said thanks love as I handed it over.

I said you adding to your Christmas drinks fund?

He actually smirked!

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview

Because this requires hardly any man power 1 officer for maybe an hour.

Tracking down thw downloading of anything is a massive effort involving very specialised officers and also extreme working conditions.

Its akin to the nhs saying they dont have the man power to do regular brain surgey but you saying "but how come a nurse could still treat a random drubk who fell over!?".

Court time isn't cheap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview

Because this requires hardly any man power 1 officer for maybe an hour.

Tracking down thw downloading of anything is a massive effort involving very specialised officers and also extreme working conditions.

Its akin to the nhs saying they dont have the man power to do regular brain surgey but you saying "but how come a nurse could still treat a random drubk who fell over!?".

Court time isn't cheap. "

Hence why the criminal pays costs

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview

Because this requires hardly any man power 1 officer for maybe an hour.

Tracking down thw downloading of anything is a massive effort involving very specialised officers and also extreme working conditions.

Its akin to the nhs saying they dont have the man power to do regular brain surgey but you saying "but how come a nurse could still treat a random drubk who fell over!?".

Court time isn't cheap.

Hence why the criminal pays costs"

Victim ?

Criminal ?

Someone picked up a score FFS

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview

Because this requires hardly any man power 1 officer for maybe an hour.

Tracking down thw downloading of anything is a massive effort involving very specialised officers and also extreme working conditions.

Its akin to the nhs saying they dont have the man power to do regular brain surgey but you saying "but how come a nurse could still treat a random drubk who fell over!?".

Not at all. The evidence is there. They know the people and have internet history of their downloads. Equally simple, and a much more serious offender is punished.

Why was Clarkson never taken to court? Easy to prove assault. 'Not in the public interest' .

There are also thousands of anti-social crimes being carried out daily that the Police can't cope with.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

"Did the same eagle eyed CCTV operator see and identify the person who dropped the 20 so it could be returned?

If youd bothered to read the man cam back told the staff he'd lost his money they checked the cctv and founf the woman stealing it "
if they'd asked her nicely she would have probably given it back ...

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over a year ago

"Did the same eagle eyed CCTV operator see and identify the person who dropped the 20 so it could be returned?

If youd bothered to read the man cam back told the staff he'd lost his money they checked the cctv and founf the woman stealing it if they'd asked her nicely she would have probably given it back ...

They did ask her she denied taking it...

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

When i was a kid i found a fiver! I spent all if it on E.T. stickers! Nearly completed the album to!

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over a year ago

Has no one read the fuckibg article?

They didnt use cctv to track her down the manager knew her and they phoned her up and asked her to come in for an interview

Because this requires hardly any man power 1 officer for maybe an hour.

Tracking down thw downloading of anything is a massive effort involving very specialised officers and also extreme working conditions.

Its akin to the nhs saying they dont have the man power to do regular brain surgey but you saying "but how come a nurse could still treat a random drubk who fell over!?".

Not at all. The evidence is there. They know the people and have internet history of their downloads. Equally simple, and a much more serious offender is punished.

Why was Clarkson never taken to court? Easy to prove assault. 'Not in the public interest' .

There are also thousands of anti-social crimes being carried out daily that the Police can't cope with."

They dont have thier internet history. Thes peeople use tor and multiple other techniques to disguise thier acrivity.

If your referring to the snoopers charter thats not even in force yet.

Operations like this require officers to infiltrate the circles and try to track them down.

This will involve a lot of offixers trawling through huge numbera of child abuse images looking for amything thwy can use to identify th child, the location or any people in the images

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Not at all. The evidence is there. They know the people and have internet history of their downloads. Equally simple, and a much more serious offender is punished.

Why was Clarkson never taken to court? Easy to prove assault. 'Not in the public interest' .

There are also thousands of anti-social crimes being carried out daily that the Police can't cope with.

They dont have thier internet history. Thes peeople use tor and multiple other techniques to disguise thier acrivity.

If your referring to the snoopers charter thats not even in force yet.

Operations like this require officers to infiltrate the circles and try to track them down.

This will involve a lot of offixers trawling through huge numbera of child abuse images looking for amything thwy can use to identify th child, the location or any people in the images

They are arresting 400 people a month and say they can't keep up with the court case workload and want to scale back who they prosecute. Anyway that is really a thread of its own.

Suffice to say the Police struggle to keep up with varying levels of crime. Where does this womans actions actions fall on the scale? I'd say well below other crimes that they routinely ignore.

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