FabSwingers.com forum: Attractiveness does it shape who you are?

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over a year ago

Heres an interesting thought.

Well I thought it was interesting anyway?

Do you think attractive people are treated differently?

Even from birth to adulthood?

Heres an extract I pulled regarding a few points...

Our genes cause genetic mutations forming a 'draft' personality.

During our early upbringing, our parents, teachers and friends treat us differently based on our looks and draft personality.

Once we are older we then form a narrative of our lives based on our experiences growing up, and make decisions consistent with the character we have created.

What do you think?

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

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over a year ago

"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

This.

Joggers or a suit.

Hot or not.

It all matters.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

Yes I thought the way people are said to treat an attractive child from birth and which apparently continued through to adulthood interesting though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes...though I don't think it should make a difference, it does to many

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't wholly shape who I am but it does shape how people react to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Avoid.

Yes. I think it does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

flowers thrown at me as I walk down the street tells me yes

of course attractive people are treated differently

we can be very shallow people here on Earth

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over a year ago

I have always considered myself to be average, so i act average.

I am shy in real life so i suppose it has effected my confidence levels.

Of course my personality is as beautiful as a mental butterfly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Should it matter? Probably not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have always considered myself to be average, so i act average.

I am shy in real life so i suppose it has effected my confidence levels.

Of course my personality is as beautiful as a mental butterfly.

mental butterfly

I like that

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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Definitely. We notice that we're treated very differently based on our appearance as far as age and dress is concerned so assume perceived attractiveness plays a part too.

When I was 18 a gorgeous blonde friend gave me a lift in her sports car which broke down by the clock tower in Brighton. All she had to do was jump out of the car and about 10 men appeared as if by magic. Obviously I didn't do a control experiment but I'm willing to bet fewer men would have offered help to a middle aged man.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

flowers thrown at me as I walk down the street tells me yes

of course attractive people are treated differently

we can be very shallow people here on Earth"

Yes I agree.

For all the political correctness and trying to do and say the right thing ?

We are a bunch of shallow twats underneath it all really arnt we ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it definitely does.

For example, a lot think some women get big headed on here because they get attention when they wouldn't get it in the real world. That's what's said by some men, I'm not saying it's true.

For me, it works the opposite.

Because I don't get attention in the real world because I'm not one of life's attractive women, I tend not to believe that men on here are really attracted to me. I'm just a pair of tits and a fanny and that's it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

flowers thrown at me as I walk down the street tells me yes

of course attractive people are treated differently

we can be very shallow people here on Earth

Yes I agree.

For all the political correctness and trying to do and say the right thing ?

We are a bunch of shallow twats underneath it all really arnt we ? "

not all of us, no

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

Yes I thought the way people are said to treat an attractive child from birth and which apparently continued through to adulthood interesting though?"

same for intelligence though and everything else that shapes you. if people tell you you're something (and the more they tell you this) it does make you believe it somewhat.

and this can boost you or not, depends what they're saying and what their intent is for that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

flowers thrown at me as I walk down the street tells me yes

of course attractive people are treated differently

we can be very shallow people here on Earth

Yes I agree.

For all the political correctness and trying to do and say the right thing ?

We are a bunch of shallow twats underneath it all really arnt we ?

not all of us, no

Figuratively speaking as a race I meant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have always considered myself to be average, so i act average.

I am shy in real life so i suppose it has effected my confidence levels.

Of course my personality is as beautiful as a mental butterfly.

mental butterfly

I like that "

its the mental bit you have to watch out for, meep meep.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Interesting topic. Women are treated differently based on their hair colour living up to the 'dumb blonde' stereotype. Or if they have big breasts guys don't talk to their face.

Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. No two people will find the same people attractive both in looks and personality. Looks can be deceiving so until you get to know someone you may have the wrong idea about them.

People have always chosen the best looking, fastest, cleverest first to be in teams at school, work, etc. Some of my closest friends are my friends because of their honesty, integrity and personality and not because of their looks. I had a so called good friend of 10 years who turned out to be shallow, deceitful and manipulative.

I'd rather my children chose their friends because of their personality and loyalty rather than based on their looks. Then I'll know I've brought them up to accept everyone.

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over a year ago

"I think it definitely does.

For example, a lot think some women get big headed on here because they get attention when they wouldn't get it in the real world. That's what's said by some men, I'm not saying it's true.

For me, it works the opposite.

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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

Yes.. classically pretty girls get further in terms of friends and opportunities throughout school. Normally not the ones who get bullied.

As you grow up sometimes it levels out but I do think its never a level playing field. Attractive women are always likely to get further in their careers than a woman with the same credentials who is deemed less attractive.

However that said confidence plays a big part. Its got me far in work situations however I completely lack it on a personal level.

If I look at my friends who are all better looking than me, none of them remain single. The one who also divorced had no issues finding someone else.

If I was in a bar and fell over and one of my friends also did, I can guarantee they would be helped first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

Yes I thought the way people are said to treat an attractive child from birth and which apparently continued through to adulthood interesting though?"

i was an ugly baby.

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over a year ago

"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

Yes I thought the way people are said to treat an attractive child from birth and which apparently continued through to adulthood interesting though?

same for intelligence though and everything else that shapes you. if people tell you you're something (and the more they tell you this) it does make you believe it somewhat.

and this can boost you or not, depends what they're saying and what their intent is for that."

Gaslighting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

Yes I thought the way people are said to treat an attractive child from birth and which apparently continued through to adulthood interesting though?

i was an ugly baby.

Me too and its carried on to my adulthood unfortunately lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

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I AGREE

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"definitely.

just the way you present yourself, whether attractive or not, will also change the way people act with you. and there have been loads of studies about that.

Yes I thought the way people are said to treat an attractive child from birth and which apparently continued through to adulthood interesting though?

same for intelligence though and everything else that shapes you. if people tell you you're something (and the more they tell you this) it does make you believe it somewhat.

and this can boost you or not, depends what they're saying and what their intent is for that.

Gaslighting.

or just putting you down to big themselves up as well.

i was brought up by a narcissist, that was hard, then had a relationship with a sociopath. it was the sociopath that made me realise to never listen to abusive people again.

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over a year ago

Being conventionally attractive does open doors for people, but that person still has to work for it and prove themselves whether in the workplace or with friends.

It doesn't make someone more interesting or a better person.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes.. classically pretty girls get further in terms of friends and opportunities throughout school. Normally not the ones who get bullied.

However that said confidence plays a big part. Its got me far in work situations however I completely lack it on a personal level.

If I look at my friends who are all better looking than me, none of them remain single. The one who also divorced had no issues finding someone else.

If I was in a bar and fell over and one of my friends also did, I can guarantee they would be helped first. "

Crazy really isnt it ?

Its made me think for sure.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Interesting topic. Women are treated differently based on their hair colour living up to the 'dumb blonde' stereotype. Or if they have big breasts guys don't talk to their face.

I'd rather my children chose their friends because of their personality and loyalty rather than based on their looks. Then I'll know I've brought them up to accept everyone. "

I think it quickly becomes obvious when people aren't very nice whatever they look like. We can't help forming an impression when we first meet or see someone, it's instinctive and designed to keep us alive. Now we no longer need to decide if the person in front of us is likely to kill us (often) we still use it to decide how to treat them in the short term. Long term is different and I don't think many of us choose our long term friends based on their attractiveness.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

I think our own measure of whether or not we consider ourselves attractive has more of a part to play. I have always been professionally and academically confident but I have never been a gregarious social animal since I am naturally fairly shy. I have never not considered myself attractive but it doesn't make a difference to who I am since I am also fully aware I am in the minority with that opinion. I have never been seen or treated as one of the pretty girls and therefore 'other' by the people around me so I have been free to just be me without having to deal with visual preconceptions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rich people can make themselves look more attractive by better grooming and possessions.

Intelligence can make some people more attractive to others too.

Some people with unconventional faces can be attractive because of their personality.

If you take both ends of the attractiveness spectrum and gave the bottom end money and the high end were poor, I'm betting the bottom people would get more respect from the general public.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"Rich people can make themselves look more attractive by better grooming and possessions.

Intelligence can make some people more attractive to others too.

Some people with unconventional faces can be attractive because of their personality.

If you take both ends of the attractiveness spectrum and gave the bottom end money and the high end were poor, I'm betting the bottom people would get more respect from the general public. "

I think Bernie Ecclestone illustrates that point. He isn't conventionally physically attractive but power and money is a strong magnet.

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By *londie8399Couple
over a year ago

blackpool

I do agree at school i was not popular had a select few friends i had which im still friends with today,but when i moved back to my home town people spoke to me who wouldent have give me the light of day years ago or bullied me when i was at school i just say a polite hi and move on if they cnt accept you for your personality and not your looks then i dont bother with them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think our own measure of whether or not we consider ourselves attractive has more of a part to play. I have always been professionally and academically confident but I have never been a gregarious social animal since I am naturally fairly shy. I have never not considered myself attractive but it doesn't make a difference to who I am since I am also fully aware I am in the minority with that opinion. I have never been seen or treated as one of the pretty girls and therefore 'other' by the people around me so I have been free to just be me without having to deal with visual preconceptions. "

I'm very similar. As a teenager I didn't have boys throwing themselves at me. I shied away from most until I met my husband.

I never considered myself attractive, not even when a man turned his head to me in a club, proclaimed "God, you're beautiful" and walked into a glass door.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do agree at school i was not popular had a select few friends i had which im still friends with today,but when i moved back to my home town people spoke to me who wouldent have give me the light of day years ago or bullied me when i was at school i just say a polite hi and move on if they cnt accept you for your personality and not your looks then i dont bother with them"

I can understand that as Ive had same experience .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rich people can make themselves look more attractive by better grooming and possessions.

Intelligence can make some people more attractive to others too.

Some people with unconventional faces can be attractive because of their personality.

If you take both ends of the attractiveness spectrum and gave the bottom end money and the high end were poor, I'm betting the bottom people would get more respect from the general public.

I think Bernie Ecclestone illustrates that point. He isn't conventionally physically attractive but power and money is a strong magnet."

If he was a bank manager or teacher, he probably wouldn't have pretty young things after him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im Attracted to quirky and none so amazing as Eirenikos

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

I'm very similar. As a teenager I didn't have boys throwing themselves at me. I shied away from most until I met my husband.

I never considered myself attractive, not even when a man turned his head to me in a club, proclaimed "God, you're beautiful" and walked into a glass door.

See, I am slightly different in that I have always considered myself attractive. But that's tempered by common sense and knowing I have a weird sense of aesthetics so I never assume other people agree (and evidence tells me the majority don't). As one of the previous posters has said, messages or comments from people on here telling me I am attractive doesn't really affect me at all. It's always been what I think that really matters to me.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Im Attracted to quirky and none so amazing as Eirenikos

thanks.

i don't mind being quirky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rich people can make themselves look more attractive by better grooming and possessions.

Intelligence can make some people more attractive to others too.

Some people with unconventional faces can be attractive because of their personality.

If you take both ends of the attractiveness spectrum and gave the bottom end money and the high end were poor, I'm betting the bottom people would get more respect from the general public.

I think Bernie Ecclestone illustrates that point. He isn't conventionally physically attractive but power and money is a strong magnet.

If he was a bank manager or teacher, he probably wouldn't have pretty young things after him. "

I think Peter Crouch summed it up very well when asked what he would have been if he wasn't a footballer and he replied "A virgin"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im Attracted to quirky and none so amazing as Eirenikos

thanks.

i don't mind being quirky.

Shucks.....youre on my hot list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm very similar. As a teenager I didn't have boys throwing themselves at me. I shied away from most until I met my husband.

I never considered myself attractive, not even when a man turned his head to me in a club, proclaimed "God, you're beautiful" and walked into a glass door.

I don't take much notice of compliments, they don't make me feel better about myself. I really don't think I have that kind of ego. If someone likes me they like me, I'm not really concerned as to why. I've met men who went on about how beautiful I am. It's ok, but doesn't make my head or chest swell. They are just people who find how I look attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rich people can make themselves look more attractive by better grooming and possessions.

Intelligence can make some people more attractive to others too.

Some people with unconventional faces can be attractive because of their personality.

If you take both ends of the attractiveness spectrum and gave the bottom end money and the high end were poor, I'm betting the bottom people would get more respect from the general public.

I think Bernie Ecclestone illustrates that point. He isn't conventionally physically attractive but power and money is a strong magnet.

If he was a bank manager or teacher, he probably wouldn't have pretty young things after him.

I think Peter Crouch summed it up very well when asked what he would have been if he wasn't a footballer and he replied "A virgin"

Funny, but sad at the same time.

I'm not saying I don't find rich men attractive, but for me it's how they became rich I find is the attraction.

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By *londie8399Couple
over a year ago

blackpool

I can understand that as Ive had same experience .

Kids can be cruel, i am a mother of 2 my daughter is popular at school my son has had difficlties at school to the point he dosent want to go. Which is very had i try to exlain to my daughter that looks and popularity dosent matter which she gets with seeing her brother struggle, but i dont think it totally about who brought u up your surrondings and your life experiences have a part in it as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have always considered myself to be average, so i act average.

I am shy in real life so i suppose it has effected my confidence levels.

Of course my personality is as beautiful as a mental butterfly.

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i find inner beauty more appealing than physical looks due to the fact that some of the most beautiful people i know are shallow and vain

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ive been called ugly handsome and average looking by people in various situations and tbh I haven't given any of their comments a moments notice?

I hopefully haven't let their opinion of how Attractive or not they think I am define who I am ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it does. Physical appearance, the way a person carries themselves, the way they speak, all is relative.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people don't realise how attractive they are.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Some people don't realise how attractive they are."

Yes and I find people like that even more attractive because of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im Attracted to quirky and none so amazing as Eirenikos

thanks.

i don't mind being quirky.

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you are one of the loves women on here in my eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people don't realise how attractive they are."
you are very pretty pretty woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure I agree with this. I treat people differently depending on how they behave... looks do not come into the equation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some people don't realise how attractive they are."

Those are the best type of people

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Attractiveness goes far beyond the physical

However your physicality's are a part of who you are so yes they do shape you as a person. I find its How you perceive those Physicality's that shape how other respond to you.

People that are truely comfortable with themselves have a natural confidence will be attractive to most people you'll encounter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ive been called ugly handsome and average looking by people in various situations and tbh I haven't given any of their comments a moments notice?

I hopefully haven't let their opinion of how Attractive or not they think I am define who I am ?"
I see that's cool well I've been called everything but not handsome or sexy lol

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I don't think it's only about looks: clothes and self confidence plays a major part too in how people treat you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it does, people are more receptive to a pretty woman or handsome man. My experience is that I was always overshadowed by my pretty friends even though they had nothing more than their looks to offer different from me. Lots of people are very shallow as youngsters, it's only as we get older that we put store in a different set of priorities and want different from what we thought was important.

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over a year ago

I was made to feel unattractive and substandard by various people right up until my mid 20s. So I tried to be invisible, hid my personality and tried to be very mediocre at everything, even subjects I could have excelled at rather than be subject to unwanted attention.

I think it's very easy for people to believe what they are told repeatedly,and that in turn can shape their personality and their success in a good way or in a bad way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's very easy for people to believe what they are told repeatedly,and that in turn can shape their personality and their success in a good way or in a bad way."

Exactly this.

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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing "

It is but I've learned to ignore the negative comments I receive. People often say negative things to others to make themselves feel better, which is sad.

I am proud of the person I am, how I live my life, and have learned to be content with how I look.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Heres an interesting thought.

Well I thought it was interesting anyway?

Do you think attractive people are treated differently?

Even from birth to adulthood?

Heres an extract I pulled regarding a few points...

Our genes cause genetic mutations forming a 'draft' personality.

During our early upbringing, our parents, teachers and friends treat us differently based on our looks and draft personality.

Once we are older we then form a narrative of our lives based on our experiences growing up, and make decisions consistent with the character we have created.

What do you think?

Of course, yes, people are shaped by all their interactions with other people, their parents firstly, and then 'the world', and they do both treat people differently according to many factors, attractiveness being one of them, it is inseparable. Each have an upside and a downside too - excessive praise aka 'spoiling' causing arrogance, or too little causing low self-esteem etc.

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over a year ago

"I was made to feel unattractive and substandard by various people right up until my mid 20s. So I tried to be invisible, hid my personality and tried to be very mediocre at everything, even subjects I could have excelled at rather than be subject to unwanted attention.

I think it's very easy for people to believe what they are told repeatedly,and that in turn can shape their personality and their success in a good way or in a bad way."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing

It is but I've learned to ignore the negative comments I receive. People often say negative things to others to make themselves feel better, which is sad.

I am proud of the person I am, how I live my life, and have learned to be content with how I look."

I think this is it, some have to put others down to cover their own shortcomings. Those who judge everything on looks alone are shallow from my viewpoint.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think some of the most attractive people are pretty empty headed and dull because they've never had to develop a character to gain attention.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Without a doubt.

If I had a sexual name and an attractive picture you can bet your bottom dollar there wouldn't be one rude word what ever I did or said on here.

Pretty women get more sympathy too even if they are not particularly pleasant or reasonable.

I've seen the nastiest of women pandered to. All to do with looks and likelihood.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Same applies to men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think some of the most attractive people are pretty empty headed and dull because they've never had to develop a character to gain attention. "

Oh yes, I do agree with this. Also they aren't always the best in bed as they think because they have the looks they don't have to bother putting in the effort.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" Same applies to men."

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Im Attracted to quirky and none so amazing as Eirenikos

thanks.

i don't mind being quirky.

you are one of the loves women on here in my eyes

only in your eyes though, hehe. and you're a nice guy.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing

It is but I've learned to ignore the negative comments I receive. People often say negative things to others to make themselves feel better, which is sad.

I am proud of the person I am, how I live my life, and have learned to be content with how I look."

if someone truly cared about me i listen to the negative, sometimes we need a reality check. but mostly i do get what you mean and sometimes people are just being horrible because of their own issues.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?"

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fine attractive people, both men and women tend to be shallow and arrogant, and expect special treatment the more attractive they are.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fine attractive people, both men and women tend to be shallow and arrogant, and expect special treatment the more attractive they are."

Bit of an unfair sweeping judgement their if you dont mind me saying?

All because someone is attractive doesnt mean they are shallow and arrogant.

The same as all unattractive people arnt all lovely either ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think some of the most attractive people are pretty empty headed and dull because they've never had to develop a character to gain attention.

Oh yes, I do agree with this. Also they aren't always the best in bed as they think because they have the looks they don't have to bother putting in the effort. "

Taking of effort, nice photos, fabbed a few.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Sounds feasible Granny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am sure there was some research done that suggested taller men were more likely to be offered managerial roles over shorter guys.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Am sure there was some research done that suggested taller men were more likely to be offered managerial roles over shorter guys."

Wouldnt suprise me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is that why I'm treated like a terrorist who's a threat to your marriages and manhoods ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing "

That's so true. And when you're told pretty much every day that you're not worthy of being treated like everyone else, is pretty hard to keep it in perspective.

I read once that every negative thing that said to you, needs four positive to counter act it. I can believe it.

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By *ddit...Man
over a year ago

Land of the giants... ;-)

I believe it does... to a shallow degree... it can build confidence and so opening new opportunities. .. I have first hand knowledge of this... x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People certinly treat e better now that i look more in shape dress better and style my hair beard etc.

Rather than ehen i was back at school

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am sure there was some research done that suggested taller men were more likely to be offered managerial roles over shorter guys."

It seems the biggest correlating factor for ceos is they are over 6ft.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing

That's so true. And when you're told pretty much every day that you're not worthy of being treated like everyone else, is pretty hard to keep it in perspective.

I read once that every negative thing that said to you, needs four positive to counter act it. I can believe it. "

I think it's in our culture, that is easier to tear down than build up.

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By *mber GamblerCouple
over a year ago

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I would say. I've had on and off attractiveness. When i was a kid i wore second hand clothes, was extremely slim, horrible national health glasses, too pale and really thick wavy hair. I was bullied because of it. It made me anxious, insecure and paranoid. Then when i hit around 17. I got contacts, filled out, my hair went really curly and long and i got quite pretty according to everyone. I went from being bullied to being approached by some modelling agencies, having tons of men fancying me and so on. But i never think of myself as attractive because of my past. It's just something that sticks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would say. I've had on and off attractiveness. When i was a kid i wore second hand clothes, was extremely slim, horrible national health glasses, too pale and really thick wavy hair. I was bullied because of it. It made me anxious, insecure and paranoid. Then when i hit around 17. I got contacts, filled out, my hair went really curly and long and i got quite pretty according to everyone. I went from being bullied to being approached by some modelling agencies, having tons of men fancying me and so on. But i never think of myself as attractive because of my past. It's just something that sticks. "

Yes i can relate to what youve said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing

That's so true. And when you're told pretty much every day that you're not worthy of being treated like everyone else, is pretty hard to keep it in perspective.

I read once that every negative thing that said to you, needs four positive to counter act it. I can believe it.

I think it's in our culture, that is easier to tear down than build up. "

Attractive people therefore will get a harder time of it than people can suspect.

Which contradicts what you said before.

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By *irestorm 500Couple
over a year ago

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We all have something that is attractive about us...focus on that .xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly it's far easier to believe bad things rather than good ones. Especially if that is what you're more used to hearing

That's so true. And when you're told pretty much every day that you're not worthy of being treated like everyone else, is pretty hard to keep it in perspective.

I read once that every negative thing that said to you, needs four positive to counter act it. I can believe it.

I think it's in our culture, that is easier to tear down than build up.

Attractive people therefore will get a harder time of it than people can suspect.

Which contradicts what you said before. "

I'm complicated and hormonal

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

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"Do you think attractive people are treated differently?"

Yes we are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fine attractive people, both men and women tend to be shallow and arrogant, and expect special treatment the more attractive they are.

Bit of an unfair sweeping judgement their if you dont mind me saying? Some truth in that but most attractive people are vain and shallow a lot of inbred weirdos are terribly stupid and ugly. So give me average people any day of the week

All because someone is attractive doesnt mean they are shallow and arrogant.

The same as all unattractive people arnt all lovely either ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dunno what happened to my comment there but it was along the lines of give me average any day both in friends and lovers

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility."

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree, think that's why iv got good personality because my school days I didn't look like how I do now, thank God lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's somewhat unfair to attractive people to assume they are all arrogant and entitled. And conversely, not all people less blessed by an accident of birth in the looks department have great personalities either. But there is no doubt in my mind that people react differently to others depending on how they look.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beauty is in the eye if the beholder,

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal"."

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?"

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?"

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

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By *erdita Von TeaseWoman
over a year ago

nottingham

Hmmm I can't say I've honestly thought of this before, it's got me thinking now

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?"

Take a look at the women who are regarded as "sexy" ideals. Proportionate curves are the key. Apparently the waist-hip ratio of .8 is the most favoured. Which as I said is indicative of fertility. Google will help you if you want to research it further.

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I never thought I was that attractive.. til I was told by some ladies I've met that they found me so ... I've always tried to be a nice guy .. and do the right thing by others .. but I wouldn't say my opinion of myself affected my behaviour one way or the other

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

I view myself as ugly but it has never entered my mind in anything I do.

I'm still surprised when I'm turned down and even more when I'm not .

I really just don't care if someone else finds me attractive or not in the grand scheme of what goes on in my head am I attractive is nether here nor there,

I'm me take me or leave I don't really care because what ever happens I will still be me tomorrow and the next day and the day after that . I'm stuck with what nature gave me its kind of a pointless exercise to worry about that if you ask me .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal."

You mentioned fertility to back up your statement but you were stating attractiveness in the post in question?

I am curious how you came to your conclusion that the hourglass shape is seen as the most attractive body shape?

The attractiveness of someones body shape varies from individual to individual.

And there are massive differences in how people perceive the attractiveness of body shape depending on which country you live in around the world.

So I still wonder how you came up with your conclusion that the most attractive body shape for a woman is hourglass?

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal.

You mentioned fertility to back up your statement but you were stating attractiveness in the post in question?

I am curious how you came to your conclusion that the hourglass shape is seen as the most attractive body shape?

The attractiveness of someones body shape varies from individual to individual.

And there are massive differences in how people perceive the attractiveness of body shape depending on which country you live in around the world.

So I still wonder how you came up with your conclusion that the most attractive body shape for a woman is hourglass?"

Since we're in Western culture I've taken the liberty of using those standards, hardly an outrageous thing to do, it's been researched and surveyed - as the internet can easily show you, and researchers conclude it is to do with indicators of fertility - hips widen at puberty, menopausal women thicken at the waist, so a well-defined waist is indicative of fertility. If you want to pretend that this isn't the Western norm of female attractiveness, knock yourself out.

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal.

You mentioned fertility to back up your statement but you were stating attractiveness in the post in question?

I am curious how you came to your conclusion that the hourglass shape is seen as the most attractive body shape?

The attractiveness of someones body shape varies from individual to individual.

And there are massive differences in how people perceive the attractiveness of body shape depending on which country you live in around the world.

So I still wonder how you came up with your conclusion that the most attractive body shape for a woman is hourglass?

I found this extract I pulled off the internet interesting ?

Some of the things that men find attractive include a small level of neuroticism, wearing red, having a balanced mouth, having large eyes, being empathic and agreeable, being self-sacrificing, and being appreciative. This means that many of the traits a man looks for in a woman are actually based on personality, not body. Additionally, research shows that men genetically look for women with the right hip to waist ratio, but they care far more about a woman’s facial attractiveness than the shape of their body overall. So perhaps the cosmetics industry is right, and women should focus on their makeup. Or perhaps it is time for women to start caring more about themselves, and not about what men think they should look like.

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over a year ago

Personally, I get treated differently depending on my weight, which makes me realise that no matter how you hold yourself, how attractive you are or what other attributes you have, if you're fat, you're deemed less attractive.

I saw a massive difference in how I was treated when I lost weight.

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal.

You mentioned fertility to back up your statement but you were stating attractiveness in the post in question?

I am curious how you came to your conclusion that the hourglass shape is seen as the most attractive body shape?

The attractiveness of someones body shape varies from individual to individual.

And there are massive differences in how people perceive the attractiveness of body shape depending on which country you live in around the world.

So I still wonder how you came up with your conclusion that the most attractive body shape for a woman is hourglass?

I found this extract I pulled off the internet interesting ?

I do, which is why I don't wear make-up

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over a year ago

"Personally, I get treated differently depending on my weight, which makes me realise that no matter how you hold yourself, how attractive you are or what other attributes you have, if you're fat, you're deemed less attractive.

I saw a massive difference in how I was treated when I lost weight. "

Me too. I was never "fat" as such maybe a few extra pounds thats all.

But when i started running and using a gym and my body shape improved I had way more attention from women than i had previously.

Sad but true

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal.

You mentioned fertility to back up your statement but you were stating attractiveness in the post in question?

I am curious how you came to your conclusion that the hourglass shape is seen as the most attractive body shape?

The attractiveness of someones body shape varies from individual to individual.

And there are massive differences in how people perceive the attractiveness of body shape depending on which country you live in around the world.

So I still wonder how you came up with your conclusion that the most attractive body shape for a woman is hourglass?

I found this extract I pulled off the internet interesting ?

I do, which is why I don't wear make-up

Lol

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over a year ago

I'm rather plain looking and a common size 14... but due to my job I am outwardly confident and dress appropriately in business attire.. I do get treat differently dressed this way.. I do think it rather silly as it's my work ethic, brains and abilities that ensure my success within my career.. not the fact that I wear nice lingerie or hold ups under my dress.

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over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal.

You mentioned fertility to back up your statement but you were stating attractiveness in the post in question?

I am curious how you came to your conclusion that the hourglass shape is seen as the most attractive body shape?

The attractiveness of someones body shape varies from individual to individual.

And there are massive differences in how people perceive the attractiveness of body shape depending on which country you live in around the world.

So I still wonder how you came up with your conclusion that the most attractive body shape for a woman is hourglass?

I found this extract I pulled off the internet interesting ?

The 'small level of neuroticism' is interesting. I wonder why that might be appealing.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

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Your mindset and determination decide who you are

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" Same applies to men.

Mad isnt it.

Its not rational is it but it happens from as early as birth apparently ?

Maybe Just the way we are wired as a species?

There's a lot of sense in it to be fair.

We ( as a species ) are attracted to symmetrical images. We find Asymmetry ugly. So it's all about balance and health.

It helps us to pick healthy partners to pro create. And to stay away from the unhealthy folk that would harm us especially as a species.

Exactly, just as it's no coincidence that the hourglass female figure is deemed the most attractive - it indicates health and peak fertility.

The slim or bigger women who havent got an hour glass figure are doomed then ??

Just out of curiosity?

Have you got an hour glass figure by any chance?

I was merely pointing out the reality of human preferences - and the science behind it - no different to taller men being the "ideal".

Would you say you have an hourglass figure?

No, my hips are proportionately smaller than my top half.

Would you say that if I did it would render me incapable of accurate perception as to what is the most desired female body shape?

Its because I personally dont agree with the hourglass figure you say is seen as the most attractive?

And wonder how you came up with your conclusion?

You personally not finding this type attractive neither negates this nor gives rise to the need for you to assume that I must be claiming this because I see my own shape as the ideal.

You mentioned fertility to back up your statement but you were stating attractiveness in the post in question?

I am curious how you came to your conclusion that the hourglass shape is seen as the most attractive body shape?

The attractiveness of someones body shape varies from individual to individual.

And there are massive differences in how people perceive the attractiveness of body shape depending on which country you live in around the world.

So I still wonder how you came up with your conclusion that the most attractive body shape for a woman is hourglass?

I found this extract I pulled off the internet interesting ?

The 'small level of neuroticism' is interesting. I wonder why that might be appealing."

Yes I thought that was interesting too?