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how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
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"Hey doll, I'm about to go to sleep but I can help if you wanted? I'm just about to get my PT qualification at the end if the month and already have a fitness instructor qualification. I've also been on my own fitness journey that I can show you. Eve. X" Show off  | |||
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"Hey doll, I'm about to go to sleep but I can help if you wanted? I'm just about to get my PT qualification at the end if the month and already have a fitness instructor qualification. I've also been on my own fitness journey that I can show you. Eve. X" i will google the bodybuilding site tushy has mentioned but, when you're not tired, i might appreciate some answers, thanks. i can wait also. seems so obvious now tushy haha. thanks. | |||
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"Hey doll, I'm about to go to sleep but I can help if you wanted? I'm just about to get my PT qualification at the end if the month and already have a fitness instructor qualification. I've also been on my own fitness journey that I can show you. Eve. X Show off "You're just jealous that I won't show you. 
I also have better quads than you. 
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"Hey doll, I'm about to go to sleep but I can help if you wanted? I'm just about to get my PT qualification at the end if the month and already have a fitness instructor qualification. I've also been on my own fitness journey that I can show you. Eve. X i will google the bodybuilding site tushy has mentioned but, when you're not tired, i might appreciate some answers, thanks. i can wait also. seems so obvious now tushy haha. thanks. " No problem at all doll! More than happy to help. 
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"I weight lift 5 times a week and do cardio 2 times a week. Only been doing it a month tho so hopefully it will all pay off soon "is this to gain muscle? you look slim already so i'm just guessing it's not to lose weight. | |||
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"Hey doll, I'm about to go to sleep but I can help if you wanted? I'm just about to get my PT qualification at the end if the month and already have a fitness instructor qualification. I've also been on my own fitness journey that I can show you. Eve. X Show off
You're just jealous that I won't show you.
I also have better quads than you.
Eve. X"Show me what exactly  ?
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"Bodybuilding is the name of the sight you're looking for." ok i goggled body building sites, there are millions of sites called that. most of them selling powders. 
am gonna google each question instead. | |||
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"Bodybuilding is the name of the sight you're looking for. ok i goggled body building sites, there are millions of sites called that. most of them selling powders.
am gonna google each question instead."Bodybuilding is the name. Just add the WWW and COM | |||
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"I weight lift 5 times a week and do cardio 2 times a week. Only been doing it a month tho so hopefully it will all pay off soon
is this to gain muscle? you look slim already so i'm just guessing it's not to lose weight."Both I want to reduce my body fat % and gain muscle. Plus I wanna be healthier
Try mike Matthews thinner leaner stronger book.
Or muscle for life website has some great advice for females x | |||
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"I need to be a bit more defined me thinks. What the least effort needed?" This for me, too. Least effort for the most results? | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest." Patience is the key | |||
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"I weight lift 5 times a week and do cardio 2 times a week. Only been doing it a month tho so hopefully it will all pay off soon
is this to gain muscle? you look slim already so i'm just guessing it's not to lose weight.
Both I want to reduce my body fat % and gain muscle. Plus I wanna be healthier
Try mike Matthews thinner leaner stronger book.
Or muscle for life website has some great advice for females x "thanks i will look for that now. i only want to get healthier and have stronger joints, losing weight would be nice with that but i know that's more down to diet. | |||
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"Bodybuilding is the name of the sight you're looking for. ok i goggled body building sites, there are millions of sites called that. most of them selling powders.
am gonna google each question instead.
Bodybuilding is the name. Just add the WWW and COM"ta. i have found that site now.  | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest." Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X | |||
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"Bodybuilding is the name of the sight you're looking for. ok i goggled body building sites, there are millions of sites called that. most of them selling powders.
am gonna google each question instead.
Bodybuilding is the name. Just add the WWW and COM
ta. i have found that site now. "I am on that site too  | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Patience is the key" lol yeah pateince, but thanks for both the replies. my son would love to bulk up as he's been wrestling training for a while now and ready to become one properly. he says he is fine if he only gains strength to lift heavier people and gets toned but i know he secretly wants to gain bulk as well. | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X" Me too Im cutting at a 25% deficit and I'm losing weight as well as gaining muscle. I'm already lifting 50% heavier than I could in week 1.
It's become a addiction now. I wanna see how far I can get x | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X Me too Im cutting at a 25% deficit and I'm losing weight as well as gaining muscle. I'm already lifting 50% heavier than I could in week 1.
It's become a addiction now. I wanna see how far I can get x "Well you look great! Really glad you're enjoying it, there are certainly worse things to be addicted to.
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X" i kind of did understand it. one problem is i cannot eat much coz i get really bad pains under my ribs. can't imagine eating so much, unless i buy a couple of chocolate pies every day from the corner shop... not sure what pyramids are. | |||
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"this is what i'm doing Stomach churches where you can do halfway sit-ups hold it up for a min and steppers but you look fine to me "my joints are fucked and i need to strengthen them. luckily the machines show you what they do to your body, so i'm using machines that work out the shoulders primarily. most of the exercise i'm doing is sitting down, but honestly there's loads of fun stuff at the gym. cross fit is like you're bouncing or jogging in space haha. the yoga balls you can use like a space hopper, and the upper body weights are alright, can feel them working already. | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Patience is the key lol yeah pateince, but thanks for both the replies. my son would love to bulk up as he's been wrestling training for a while now and ready to become one properly. he says he is fine if he only gains strength to lift heavier people and gets toned but i know he secretly wants to gain bulk as well." That is right, patience and that is good he wants too do weights for the wrestling too. | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X i kind of did understand it. one problem is i cannot eat much coz i get really bad pains under my ribs. can't imagine eating so much, unless i buy a couple of chocolate pies every day from the corner shop... not sure what pyramids are." That is good you do and yeah, it can be abit complicated, pyramiding means like you pyramid the sets down from the top to bottom, that is right, the eating part can be hard, but start with few meals and build it up over time. | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Patience is the key lol yeah pateince, but thanks for both the replies. my son would love to bulk up as he's been wrestling training for a while now and ready to become one properly. he says he is fine if he only gains strength to lift heavier people and gets toned but i know he secretly wants to gain bulk as well.That is right, patience and that is good he wants too do weights for the wrestling too." he has been doing, we go together starting this week but don't really know what we're doing. he can lift a lot heavier than me already. and he did 40 mins on the cross fit, i can only do about 2 and i need a rest.  | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X" That is good you gained on the cutting phase too, when I do such phase I concentrate on carb cycling as you can have 3 high carb days with medium then one very low. | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X i kind of did understand it. one problem is i cannot eat much coz i get really bad pains under my ribs. can't imagine eating so much, unless i buy a couple of chocolate pies every day from the corner shop... not sure what pyramids are.That is good you do and yeah, it can be abit complicated, pyramiding means like you pyramid the sets down from the top to bottom, that is right, the eating part can be hard, but start with few meals and build it up over time." pyramid means start at the neck/shoulder and work down to your calves? | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X i kind of did understand it. one problem is i cannot eat much coz i get really bad pains under my ribs. can't imagine eating so much, unless i buy a couple of chocolate pies every day from the corner shop... not sure what pyramids are.That is good you do and yeah, it can be abit complicated, pyramiding means like you pyramid the sets down from the top to bottom, that is right, the eating part can be hard, but start with few meals and build it up over time. pyramid means start at the neck/shoulder and work down to your calves?" Not in this instance as it just means you go from a high number and work your way down as in this example it was with reps. | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X i kind of did understand it. one problem is i cannot eat much coz i get really bad pains under my ribs. can't imagine eating so much, unless i buy a couple of chocolate pies every day from the corner shop... not sure what pyramids are.That is good you do and yeah, it can be abit complicated, pyramiding means like you pyramid the sets down from the top to bottom, that is right, the eating part can be hard, but start with few meals and build it up over time. pyramid means start at the neck/shoulder and work down to your calves?Not in this instance as it just means you go from a high number and work your way down as in this example it was with reps." ok thanks, i get you now. i can't do much yet so i do 4 reps then rest a little, then do some more. i've opened those sites i've been told about and ready to do some research on those tomorrow with my son. thankyou all. | |||
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"I am elergic to the gym lol" lol. you don't look like you need to go anyway. | |||
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"I dont but i hate it i have membership and been twice new years reloution now im stuck with membship i don't use lol" get someone to go with you? it's a lot more fun i think. | |||
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"None of my friend like the gym so i would have to make gym friends lol" that's a shame. i will go with anyone to the gym just so i'm not bored really. my sister or son at this time. | |||
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"I would properly stick to it if i had a gym buddy" does make it easier i think. like i've been going 3 times a week, before then i only went once on my own and felt a bit meh about it all. | |||
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 2\4 hours 4\5days then rest for three n repeat its the eating that takes its toll ...to bulk ots a min of 3000cals a day but that a slow process ideally 3500/4000+a day of clean healthy meat n carbs not as was as I sounds lol we did have a bit a banter about the other routes before n I ain't no angel lol off at mo last 3 weeks as broke a couple ribs over xmass n tryed to train still but keep cracking them on dead lifts n squats so took time out to fix up .....but yes graft n food min 4\5 hours a week n eat like hell n if people are trying a bulk. cut cardio to minimize cal burning 0\15 3times week max and I a happen a lot faster ......enough cod shit hope this gets your perv fest flowing for you lol be lucky you n | |||
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"I dont but i hate it i have membership and been twice new years reloution now im stuck with membship i don't use lol" .......new year new me lol thats why us gym junkys break Jan you all gone again by Feb lol ....only joking get in there n do it you all pays of in end x | |||
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how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
Lots
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
No
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
All of the equipment
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
Little and often
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
Until you have strengthened the joints, yes
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
Just google your questions. | |||
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Surely you were shown each piece of equipment and how they worked each muscle group.
I'd have thought you were also asked what your goals and ambitions were, and given a programme to work with ?
Has there been any sort of ongoing advice and training ?
This is what you should be expecting from any half decent gym, add it keeps their customers fit and happy and returning through the door | |||
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"I would seriously take the advice of people on here with a pinch of salt. I am an ex PT but even I wouldn't give you advice without seeing you and knowing your history, especially with your health issues. My advice would be to either see if your GP can refer you to an exercise programme or pay for a few sessions with a PT (one that is registered with the register of exercise professionals at Level 3). Good luck but seriously without good advice you can do more harm than good." This | |||
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"When you joined your gym what sort of induction did you have ? Were you just given a towel and left to get on with ?
Surely you were shown each piece of equipment and how they worked each muscle group.
I'd have thought you were also asked what your goals and ambitions were, and given a programme to work with ?
Has there been any sort of ongoing advice and training ?
This is what you should be expecting from any half decent gym, add it keeps their customers fit and happy and returning through the door "this reply will answer a few ppl btw. firstly i got referred by my diabetic nurse, not for diabetes but because i told her about my arthritis problems and she said they could maybe help with .that, not much longer after that someone called me and asked me a lot of questions, like why i wanted to go, how my mental health is, how do i feel about myself and things like that. they said i could have a place in a few months. went for my induction, she'd read my notes from the phone call so knew some things, and she asked me a lot of questions. weighed and measured me. showed me how to use the equipment (turn it on, how to programme them), asked me if i was ok and some general safety tips. that's about it but she is there weds and fri and there's always staff about to ask stuff to as well. all the equip shows what it does and which muscle groups they work, like i said i'm focusing on my shoulders mostly as i can do any sitting down exercises no problem also (apart from the bikes coz of one knee..i wanna know if using a knee support would be better as i got told not to use them). i've got 4 free months at this gym anyway, it's council run. and i'm planning on going 3 or 4 times a week, or every other day (same thing). i gain muscle easily (know this from previously just dancing and turning into a kickboxer physique from that), don't really want to gain much though, my main focus in on strengthening my joints and becoming more able bodied for my son he can do the bulking up, hopefully he has gained my genetic ability to gain muscle. i'm gonna get him to talk to someone at the gym about diet. | |||
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"...any excuse to find the gym fit men on here.
how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
thanks."At least 40min x4 a week Get the right diet one high in protein with a medium level of carbs and you'll build muscle, too little carbs and you'll cut and just shape up nicely. As for joints glucosamine is recommended but I just drink plenty of water to keep them lubed. The main key to size is legs regardless of sex, try work these twice a week (no one ever said this would be fun!). Finally do it for you, if it's not fun then quit, it takes over your entire life and turns you into a bit of a bore to your friends. Good luck x  | |||
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"...any excuse to find the gym fit men on here.
how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
thanks.
At least 40min x4 a week
Get the right diet one high in protein with a medium level of carbs and you'll build muscle, too little carbs and you'll cut and just shape up nicely.
As for joints glucosamine is recommended but I just drink plenty of water to keep them lubed.
The main key to size is legs regardless of sex, try work these twice a week (no one ever said this would be fun!).
Finally do it for you, if it's not fun then quit, it takes over your entire life and turns you into a bit of a bore to your friends. Good luck x "so far we're doing 6 hours a week (he's lifting heavier weights than me and doing more on his legs), we add like 10 mins to each session every time we go or more if we can -last time we added about 30 mins. i'm not even sore today or achey, does this mean we didn't do enough? | |||
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"...any excuse to find the gym fit men on here.
how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
thanks.
At least 40min x4 a week
Get the right diet one high in protein with a medium level of carbs and you'll build muscle, too little carbs and you'll cut and just shape up nicely.
As for joints glucosamine is recommended but I just drink plenty of water to keep them lubed.
The main key to size is legs regardless of sex, try work these twice a week (no one ever said this would be fun!).
Finally do it for you, if it's not fun then quit, it takes over your entire life and turns you into a bit of a bore to your friends. Good luck x
so far we're doing 6 hours a week (he's lifting heavier weights than me and doing more on his legs), we add like 10 mins to each session every time we go or more if we can -last time we added about 30 mins.
i'm not even sore today or achey, does this mean we didn't do enough?
"The soreness your on about is "doms" delayed onset muscle soreness, as you improve it goes away and instead you get that instant "pump" while training. Don't get me wrong you should be hurting a litttle the next day, if not you've not really pushed yourself. Keep it fun and look at new ways to hurt yourself. There's a guy called renshaw on Facebook puts some good tutorials on now and then. Don't get fixated on body weight like I do it makes no difference! I've bounced between 12.5 and 13st for months but I'm a complete different shape so it's swings and roundabouts. If your stuck find the biggest and meanest looking guy in the gym and ask, you'll be surprised they're usually the nicest guys in there | |||
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"...any excuse to find the gym fit men on here.
how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
thanks.
At least 40min x4 a week
Get the right diet one high in protein with a medium level of carbs and you'll build muscle, too little carbs and you'll cut and just shape up nicely.
As for joints glucosamine is recommended but I just drink plenty of water to keep them lubed.
The main key to size is legs regardless of sex, try work these twice a week (no one ever said this would be fun!).
Finally do it for you, if it's not fun then quit, it takes over your entire life and turns you into a bit of a bore to your friends. Good luck x
so far we're doing 6 hours a week (he's lifting heavier weights than me and doing more on his legs), we add like 10 mins to each session every time we go or more if we can -last time we added about 30 mins.
i'm not even sore today or achey, does this mean we didn't do enough?
The soreness your on about is "doms" delayed onset muscle soreness, as you improve it goes away and instead you get that instant "pump" while training. Don't get me wrong you should be hurting a litttle the next day, if not you've not really pushed yourself. Keep it fun and look at new ways to hurt yourself. There's a guy called renshaw on Facebook puts some good tutorials on now and then. Don't get fixated on body weight like I do it makes no difference! I've bounced between 12.5 and 13st for months but I'm a complete different shape so it's swings and roundabouts. If your stuck find the biggest and meanest looking guy in the gym and ask, you'll be surprised they're usually the nicest guys in there "yeah i'm not bothered about weight, but somehow have managed not to become hungrier this time round from doing more exercise. i'm still only on 2 meals a day. coz it's the school holidays there have been loads of kids going, and some of the guys there been being nice to them, i know who to ask i think.
i was hurting a bit at the gym itself, expected to be hurting more today.
following renshaw now, glad there's a fb page coz the other sites they just seem very cluttered and i'm stuggling with them, although their forums are tidy.
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Dude, is a novice really going to understand what the heck you just said ha ha? Also,I can say with absolute certainty that you don't need to eat 20 x your weight to gain muscle. Telling that to a novice us bound to scare them! Bulking is hard as hell! OP, you can lose body fat and tone up by eating at maintenance but it will be a slow process. Hell, I gained muscle on my cutting phases so you don't have to bulk unless you want serious muscle gain. Eve. X i kind of did understand it. one problem is i cannot eat much coz i get really bad pains under my ribs. can't imagine eating so much, unless i buy a couple of chocolate pies every day from the corner shop... not sure what pyramids are." Shakes are the best for addinf calories can easily get abive 1000cal in a shake by adding fruit snd nuts or oils. As you do low reps 5x5 is good for you as its 5 sets of 5 reps instead of the more traditional 3x8. | |||
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"For a woman to get big muscle wise is a huge amlunt of effort. Men much easier becsuse we hsve a lot of testosterone. Best for size snd general strwngrh is compounds jist need an olympic bar. Google stronglifts 5x5 thsts a great place to stsrt. Squats deadlift rows and bench snd shoulder press" i will gain dead easy, already got batista neck and shoulders lol. i'm naturally hairy as fuck. it me who doesn't want to bulk up though. i can't do those stronglifts, should my son work his way up yo doing them? he uses 30kg handwieghts already. | |||
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"...any excuse to find the gym fit men on here.
how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
thanks.
At least 40min x4 a week
Get the right diet one high in protein with a medium level of carbs and you'll build muscle, too little carbs and you'll cut and just shape up nicely.
As for joints glucosamine is recommended but I just drink plenty of water to keep them lubed.
The main key to size is legs regardless of sex, try work these twice a week (no one ever said this would be fun!).
Finally do it for you, if it's not fun then quit, it takes over your entire life and turns you into a bit of a bore to your friends. Good luck x
so far we're doing 6 hours a week (he's lifting heavier weights than me and doing more on his legs), we add like 10 mins to each session every time we go or more if we can -last time we added about 30 mins.
i'm not even sore today or achey, does this mean we didn't do enough?
The soreness your on about is "doms" delayed onset muscle soreness, as you improve it goes away and instead you get that instant "pump" while training. Don't get me wrong you should be hurting a litttle the next day, if not you've not really pushed yourself. Keep it fun and look at new ways to hurt yourself. There's a guy called renshaw on Facebook puts some good tutorials on now and then. Don't get fixated on body weight like I do it makes no difference! I've bounced between 12.5 and 13st for months but I'm a complete different shape so it's swings and roundabouts. If your stuck find the biggest and meanest looking guy in the gym and ask, you'll be surprised they're usually the nicest guys in there "Great body shape in your profile pic thats the physiwue im aiming for over time. I swing betwen 13 and 13.5 stone | |||
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"For a woman to get big muscle wise is a huge amlunt of effort. Men much easier becsuse we hsve a lot of testosterone. Best for size snd general strwngrh is compounds jist need an olympic bar. Google stronglifts 5x5 thsts a great place to stsrt. Squats deadlift rows and bench snd shoulder press i will gain dead easy, already got batista neck and shoulders lol. i'm naturally hairy as fuck. it me who doesn't want to bulk up though. i can't do those stronglifts, should my son work his way up yo doing them? he uses 30kg handwieghts already." Stronglifts is just the name of the program has a free app too. And yes your son will be fine using the olympic bar for lifting. With a cage and etc hes fsr less likley to hurt himself too conpared to dumbells and will be able to lift more. But as hes foing this for a sport dunbels are important to help build the smaller muscles and keep symmetrical strength something a bsr doesn't do as well | |||
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"For a woman to get big muscle wise is a huge amlunt of effort. Men much easier becsuse we hsve a lot of testosterone. Best for size snd general strwngrh is compounds jist need an olympic bar. Google stronglifts 5x5 thsts a great place to stsrt. Squats deadlift rows and bench snd shoulder press i will gain dead easy, already got batista neck and shoulders lol. i'm naturally hairy as fuck. it me who doesn't want to bulk up though. i can't do those stronglifts, should my son work his way up yo doing them? he uses 30kg handwieghts already. Stronglifts is just the name of the program has a free app too. And yes your son will be fine using the olympic bar for lifting. With a cage and etc hes fsr less likley to hurt himself too conpared to dumbells and will be able to lift more. But as hes foing this for a sport dunbels are important to help build the smaller muscles and keep symmetrical strength something a bsr doesn't do as well " ok thanks. i googled them exercises you mentioned (to see what you meant) and found a channel on youtube i like from doing that as well, the guy has answered a few of my questions already too. | |||
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"I don't go to the gym or lift weights but I built up a good base doing pull ups and press ups, etc, in the past that has stayed with me. Why not try that? Just got good genes I suppose." he wants to bulk up and be able to lift heavier weights (he's wrestling and can lift small people so far, who are about his size). one thing, i've seen some people who aren't muscly but are strong, so that's something i didn't think about. they don't even look muscly but more slightly chubby or normal, average size. | |||
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"...any excuse to find the gym fit men on here.
how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
thanks."Twitter is your friend here... just to name a few people that are worth a follow: @aliceliveing_, @healthycsteph, @chessieking; always posting workouts, answering any questions you have & just generally motivating their followers. Like one of the first replies said, Bodybuilding.com is a fantastic resource & it has so many informative articles. | |||
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"For lifting people etc id say squats are going to be his number one excercise followed by deadlift Thats what will give him the power in his posterior chain to drive the weight of another person. Also shit loada of core workouts if you know any former boxers get them to run him through some abbs/cpre drills. The 60 year pld ex boxer at my gym is brutal me and any other ypung lad he shows are absolutely fucked and cant carey on while hes happily continuing while talking." his dad is an ex boxer, could ask his advice i suppose if he ever turns up here. | |||
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"...any excuse to find the gym fit men on here.
how many hours do people need to put in the gym to get muscly? like bulky, not just toned.
is it easier for males than females, or is it more complicated than that?
what sort of equipment should be used, for overall bulk? like leg muscle as well as arms?
if you don't want to bulk up but need to strengthen joints what's the best exercise here?
i know supports can 'weaken' muscles, but if you need them to exercise is that better than doing less exercise without them?
is there's a better site to ask on or find these answers lemme know, but don't post a link just mention the name and i will google it.
thanks."Hey OP, Just in answer to your questions from my point if view. I generally tend to spend around 40 minutes in the gym each day. Some days, depending on how I feel I may spend a longer in the gym, up to 75mins - this is just to mix it up and completely exhaust the muscles (tends to be whenever I know I won't be training the following day). It all dependa on the person as to how many hours they need to spend ie some people workout in line with HIIT whereby its basically less rest, higher intensity but for a shorter time period. Way more complex than it being "easier for males/females". I think it's important to have a range of exercises and equipment at your disposal. Mainly i tend to train with free weights and some machines - free weights, you have a natural resistance compared with using machines, although if you are not comfortable/confident with free weights, then machines are a good place to start. It's not an overnight process, it's very much long term. You can pretty much google/youtube anything relating to fitness these days and it's likely there will be someone out there with an answer. Alternatively you can ask people at your gym, majority of the time people will be more than willing to help
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"I don't go to the gym or lift weights but I built up a good base doing pull ups and press ups, etc, in the past that has stayed with me. Why not try that? Just got good genes I suppose. he wants to bulk up and be able to lift heavier weights (he's wrestling and can lift small people so far, who are about his size). one thing, i've seen some people who aren't muscly but are strong, so that's something i didn't think about. they don't even look muscly but more slightly chubby or normal, average size." If he want to bulk up get him doing a good amount of back and latts.. you can train the rest and eat like a beast, but if your back dosnt gor the rest has nothing to grow into. Know lots of lads who went the Abbas, arms and chest rout and whined they never bulked out.. soon as they put in back work boom they got bigger. Can't fault squats, deadlift and bench as a base. | |||
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"The best routine is a 3 day split, because you have take the protein synthesis recovery time into consideration and to bulk up you have eat 20x your body weight, so a typical 180lb lifter should eat around 3400kcal to gain weight, keep the reps high and pyramid the reps down from 30 to 7 and the last one should be the heaviest. Patience is the key lol yeah pateince, but thanks for both the replies. my son would love to bulk up as he's been wrestling training for a while now and ready to become one properly. he says he is fine if he only gains strength to lift heavier people and gets toned but i know he secretly wants to gain bulk as well.That is right, patience and that is good he wants too do weights for the wrestling too." I'd actually be tempted to have him on some sort of overall conditioning for the wrestling. I reckon strongman type training would be pretty good. | |||
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"I don't go to the gym or lift weights but I built up a good base doing pull ups and press ups, etc, in the past that has stayed with me. Why not try that? Just got good genes I suppose. he wants to bulk up and be able to lift heavier weights (he's wrestling and can lift small people so far, who are about his size). one thing, i've seen some people who aren't muscly but are strong, so that's something i didn't think about. they don't even look muscly but more slightly chubby or normal, average size. If he want to bulk up get him doing a good amount of back and latts.. you can train the rest and eat like a beast, but if your back dosnt gor the rest has nothing to grow into. Know lots of lads who went the Abbas, arms and chest rout and whined they never bulked out.. soon as they put in back work boom they got bigger. Can't fault squats, deadlift and bench as a base." I wouldn't reccomend a weightlifing programme that didn't have the main compound lifts (Squat, Deadlift, Bench OHP) as a base. You can target pure strength withour getting big, but there will come a point where moe muscle mass is nescessary and then you will need hypertrophy work. | |||
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"You can target pure strength withour getting big,. " thanks jimi for replying to others, what do you mean by this? i've already added a little arm bulk now and am sure i'm just gonna end up like one of those small, fat, muscly men and don't want that. | |||
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