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"Ahhh! But..." I'm fully bisexual but I don't get off on TV/TS - like my men to be men and my women to be women. Nowt as queer as folk  | |||
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"Maybe it's because they use the site the way they want without questioning how others use the site? "Interesting comment  | |||
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"Single males and males from couples say they are straight on profile but are interested in meeting TV's. Hmmmm can't work out how being into guys dressed as girls makes you straight. A banana in an orange skin is still a banana lol" Bit like a woman stating she's straight on a profile but doesn't mind a bit of female play  | |||
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"Does it matter what others do.. It doesn't make any difference to what your doing. Sometimes people just want to try new things. Maybe if people didn't use labels other people wouldn't care! " Aye. "Labels are for jam" As a wise man once said | |||
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"Maybe it's because they use the site the way they want without questioning how others use the site? "Well said. I could waste lots of time typing all the reasons why my profile is the way it is, but at the end of the day your answer is far more succinct. Owl @}-;-'--- | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all" Don't mention it, hope you got the information that you needed.x | |||
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"Again thanks to all and have a great day" I got your point and I agree. | |||
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"Again thanks to all and have a great day I got your point and I agree. " I just thought it was a bit hypocritical when it says she is straight on their profile but is open to some female play. | |||
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"... "Labels are for jam" As a wise man once said " oooh, jam. Think I'll make some toast. | |||
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"Single males and males from couples say they are straight on profile but are interested in meeting TV's. Hmmmm can't work out how being into guys dressed as girls makes you straight. A banana in an orange skin is still a banana lol" I know they are bi; they know that they are bi; but it does not make any difference to me because when I meet bi men, I meet them on a 1-to-1 basis. They will either be interested in me or will dump me and go have sex with men or TV/TS PS. How does one get a Banana in an Orange skin? | |||
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"Single males and males from couples say they are straight on profile but are interested in meeting TV's. Hmmmm can't work out how being into guys dressed as girls makes you straight. A banana in an orange skin is still a banana lol I know they are bi; they know that they are bi; but it does not make any difference to me because when I meet bi men, I meet them on a 1-to-1 basis. They will either be interested in me or will dump me and go have sex with men or TV/TS PS. How does one get a Banana in an Orange skin? "Feed it to David Dickinson. | |||
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"I shall change it to bi curious if it makes you sleep better tonight" yes, honesty is the best policy.x | |||
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"I personally don't fancy blokes. I can say "yes he's attractive" with out feeling any lust towards them. However I have known a number of trans people. "Hairy Marys",or the general cross dresser do nothing for me. Well To me they are just a bloke in knickers and a slip. Transvestite, the ones who adopt a different persona and look when they dress up are to me fascinating. The amount of work they put in to be other than what they are is astounding. And a great many of them look frankly more attractive than many women. When they are dressed up I find them attractive. When they're just Dave they're just a bloke and not attractive to me. Transgendered, those born in the wrong body for their gender orientation, don't act like the body they are born in. They go out of their way to be what they feel they really are inside. As such that is how they are treated by me. Tldr: blokes no, bloke in a frock no, mandy the dirty slut who is a bit bratty and has a surprise in her knickers yes, female in a male body and going through the change is another lady to treat right. That's just me though. And my profile says bi-c because of that fact. It used to say straight but Fabstraight isn't an option. "Genuine reply.x | |||
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"Does it matter what others do.. It doesn't make any difference to what your doing. Sometimes people just want to try new things. Maybe if people didn't use labels other people wouldn't care! " Andy does not want to be in a relationship with a guy so on a dating sight would be down as straight. He doesn't mind getting involved with another cock during sex, doesn't make him anything other than he was yesterday. You don't get gay by touching a willy. You are gay if you love someone of the same sex. You are Bi if you love people of either sex. Who you fuck has little to do with it. Labels are not useful as they just make people make assumptions which are based on their own biases and not yours. Best just list the types you wanna lick. | |||
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"This is asked so often, it's worth a search. This category includes those people of whichever gender allocation from birth who may have been miscategorised, or be in/have completed transition. Formerly female but truly identified as male and the opposite. Just stating it's a man dressed up is ignorant and very insulting. Sexual orientation is also something that's not binary. People often discover their real orientation long past puberty. Let people just discover themselves as they do. Pressuring people to be black or white has forced many to be unhappy, to lie or end up living their life in the way that others prefer for them. Fab is a place where people can live freely, to explore and enjoy aspects of life that others don't find as tolerable. It's great when we all support the freedoms that we enjoy and take for granted. " Would all this not be easier if we forgot all about gender and just spoke of physical sex? Gender is entirely made up based on the premise that a certain set of genitals means you must fulfil a certain role. Gender was a third variable thrown in to mix it all up when we really should have just ignored the need to categorise people in the first place. Transsexual is a choice of changing your body and is obviously any person's right to make. We need not assign genders and then no one needs to go through the difficulty of changing it or living under a title that doesn't suit them. When you change gender, nothing actually changes as you were who you were the day before, today you are the same. So why do it? Live whichever role in society suits you best and just because some folks don't see it your way does not mean you need to change. They just need to learn. The invention of gender as a state of mind as opposed to a synonym for sex has served only to make things harder for those who are not sure of their role or not sure they are who they are said to be. It could all be much much simpler. | |||
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"This is asked so often, it's worth a search. This category includes those people of whichever gender allocation from birth who may have been miscategorised, or be in/have completed transition. Formerly female but truly identified as male and the opposite. Just stating it's a man dressed up is ignorant and very insulting. Sexual orientation is also something that's not binary. People often discover their real orientation long past puberty. Let people just discover themselves as they do. Pressuring people to be black or white has forced many to be unhappy, to lie or end up living their life in the way that others prefer for them. Fab is a place where people can live freely, to explore and enjoy aspects of life that others don't find as tolerable. It's great when we all support the freedoms that we enjoy and take for granted. Would all this not be easier if we forgot all about gender and just spoke of physical sex? Gender is entirely made up based on the premise that a certain set of genitals means you must fulfil a certain role. Gender was a third variable thrown in to mix it all up when we really should have just ignored the need to categorise people in the first place. Transsexual is a choice of changing your body and is obviously any person's right to make. We need not assign genders and then no one needs to go through the difficulty of changing it or living under a title that doesn't suit them. When you change gender, nothing actually changes as you were who you were the day before, today you are the same. So why do it? Live whichever role in society suits you best and just because some folks don't see it your way does not mean you need to change. They just need to learn. The invention of gender as a state of mind as opposed to a synonym for sex has served only to make things harder for those who are not sure of their role or not sure they are who they are said to be. It could all be much much simpler. " So instead of stating that I am looking for a man or a woman, should I instead state that I am looking for a penis or a vagina?  Because, to me, the genitals would matter when having sex  | |||
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"This is asked so often, it's worth a search. This category includes those people of whichever gender allocation from birth who may have been miscategorised, or be in/have completed transition. Formerly female but truly identified as male and the opposite. Just stating it's a man dressed up is ignorant and very insulting. Sexual orientation is also something that's not binary. People often discover their real orientation long past puberty. Let people just discover themselves as they do. Pressuring people to be black or white has forced many to be unhappy, to lie or end up living their life in the way that others prefer for them. Fab is a place where people can live freely, to explore and enjoy aspects of life that others don't find as tolerable. It's great when we all support the freedoms that we enjoy and take for granted. Would all this not be easier if we forgot all about gender and just spoke of physical sex? Gender is entirely made up based on the premise that a certain set of genitals means you must fulfil a certain role. Gender was a third variable thrown in to mix it all up when we really should have just ignored the need to categorise people in the first place. Transsexual is a choice of changing your body and is obviously any person's right to make. We need not assign genders and then no one needs to go through the difficulty of changing it or living under a title that doesn't suit them. When you change gender, nothing actually changes as you were who you were the day before, today you are the same. So why do it? Live whichever role in society suits you best and just because some folks don't see it your way does not mean you need to change. They just need to learn. The invention of gender as a state of mind as opposed to a synonym for sex has served only to make things harder for those who are not sure of their role or not sure they are who they are said to be. It could all be much much simpler. So instead of stating that I am looking for a man or a woman, should I instead state that I am looking for a penis or a vagina? Because, to me, the genitals would matter when having sex "Male sex and female sex. There are a very few who hover somewhere in between. Those of the male sex are called men and those of the female sex are called women. Until a person decided they want to be called something else, then, within reason, it's pretty decent total call them that. Or not call them anything if you don't like it. | |||
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"Does it matter what others do.. It doesn't make any difference to what your doing. Sometimes people just want to try new things. Maybe if people didn't use labels other people wouldn't care! Aye. "Labels are for jam" As a wise man once said " | |||
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"This is asked so often, it's worth a search. This category includes those people of whichever gender allocation from birth who may have been miscategorised, or be in/have completed transition. Formerly female but truly identified as male and the opposite. Just stating it's a man dressed up is ignorant and very insulting. Sexual orientation is also something that's not binary. People often discover their real orientation long past puberty. Let people just discover themselves as they do. Pressuring people to be black or white has forced many to be unhappy, to lie or end up living their life in the way that others prefer for them. Fab is a place where people can live freely, to explore and enjoy aspects of life that others don't find as tolerable. It's great when we all support the freedoms that we enjoy and take for granted. Would all this not be easier if we forgot all about gender and just spoke of physical sex? Gender is entirely made up based on the premise that a certain set of genitals means you must fulfil a certain role. Gender was a third variable thrown in to mix it all up when we really should have just ignored the need to categorise people in the first place. Transsexual is a choice of changing your body and is obviously any person's right to make. We need not assign genders and then no one needs to go through the difficulty of changing it or living under a title that doesn't suit them. When you change gender, nothing actually changes as you were who you were the day before, today you are the same. So why do it? Live whichever role in society suits you best and just because some folks don't see it your way does not mean you need to change. They just need to learn. The invention of gender as a state of mind as opposed to a synonym for sex has served only to make things harder for those who are not sure of their role or not sure they are who they are said to be. It could all be much much simpler. So instead of stating that I am looking for a man or a woman, should I instead state that I am looking for a penis or a vagina? Because, to me, the genitals would matter when having sex
Male sex and female sex. There are a very few who hover somewhere in between.
Those of the male sex are called men and those of the female sex are called women.
Until a person decided they want to be called something else, then, within reason, it's pretty decent total call them that. Or not call them anything if you don't like it. "
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"This is asked so often, it's worth a search. This category includes those people of whichever gender allocation from birth who may have been miscategorised, or be in/have completed transition. Formerly female but truly identified as male and the opposite. Just stating it's a man dressed up is ignorant and very insulting. Sexual orientation is also something that's not binary. People often discover their real orientation long past puberty. Let people just discover themselves as they do. Pressuring people to be black or white has forced many to be unhappy, to lie or end up living their life in the way that others prefer for them. Fab is a place where people can live freely, to explore and enjoy aspects of life that others don't find as tolerable. It's great when we all support the freedoms that we enjoy and take for granted. Would all this not be easier if we forgot all about gender and just spoke of physical sex? Gender is entirely made up based on the premise that a certain set of genitals means you must fulfil a certain role. Gender was a third variable thrown in to mix it all up when we really should have just ignored the need to categorise people in the first place. Transsexual is a choice of changing your body and is obviously any person's right to make. We need not assign genders and then no one needs to go through the difficulty of changing it or living under a title that doesn't suit them. When you change gender, nothing actually changes as you were who you were the day before, today you are the same. So why do it? Live whichever role in society suits you best and just because some folks don't see it your way does not mean you need to change. They just need to learn. The invention of gender as a state of mind as opposed to a synonym for sex has served only to make things harder for those who are not sure of their role or not sure they are who they are said to be. It could all be much much simpler. So instead of stating that I am looking for a man or a woman, should I instead state that I am looking for a penis or a vagina? Because, to me, the genitals would matter when having sex
Male sex and female sex. There are a very few who hover somewhere in between.
Those of the male sex are called men and those of the female sex are called women.
Until a person decided they want to be called something else, then, within reason, it's pretty decent total call them that. Or not call them anything if you don't like it.
That makes sense to me"Sadly it would single handedly bankrupt the blogging industry and give a lot of tiresome people nothing to be better than others about if we adopted the sensible solution. And as you know, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. | |||
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation" You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt. | |||
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt." Forum police? Who are they? - Oh, you mean folk that have an opposing view, and can trip out a sensible reply.x | |||
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"Aimple answer to the op is this . When we are playing and a guy touches or sucks my cock , I don't mind at all . It turns my wife on big time to see it , and I've got used to it . But I never reciprocate , simply because I don't like it and have no attraction to cock . If the fact that I don't mind a guy / tv / or any other person sucking my cock makes me bi , then forgive me for not saying so on our profile . But if I did put that I was bi , they would expect me to be interested in playing with them too , and I'm not , so honesty is the policy "Bi-Selfish, best I've heard, shame it doesn't exist as a category as many of us here fit it. S | |||
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt.Forum police? Who are they? - Oh, you mean folk that have an opposing view, and can trip out a sensible reply.x" Not at all. Different views are good. I mean the ones that try to tell people what they can and can't ask/ post about. | |||
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"Because l'm attracted to femininity and some of them look more feminine and pretty than many women. Still doesn't make we want to suck their cocks." And I guess this is probably the best reason not to rely on labels. What you are attracted to has nothing to do with the genitalia but with the person So yeah, I am wrong when I said that they are bisexual. Only they know what their sexuality is. All I know is that I am not interested in them if they are not interested in me
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"Why make a thread about something you have no interest in under the guise of an 'observation ' Just smells like troll to me. "Curiosity? It is possible to be curious about a topic you are not directly involved with. If you don't enjoy such threads, there are millions to try. | |||
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt.Forum police? Who are they? - Oh, you mean folk that have an opposing view, and can trip out a sensible reply.x Not at all. Different views are good. I mean the ones that try to tell people what they can and can't ask/ post about." Like referring to folk as 'Forum police'perhaps ??. | |||
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt.Forum police? Who are they? - Oh, you mean folk that have an opposing view, and can trip out a sensible reply.x Not at all. Different views are good. I mean the ones that try to tell people what they can and can't ask/ post about.Like referring to folk as 'Forum police'perhaps ??." Don't try to tell me what to do!!! | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to an opinion just as we are all entitled to our preference. But you live and learn and today we learned to keep our opinion to ourselves. We also learned a banana can be in an orange skin if eaten by Dave Dickinson lol. Good day to all and remember to play nice" I think your reference to 'guys dressed as girls' was likely to attract a response, which it did. X | |||
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 exible, which to me, semantically, hints an openness.
However, openness makes for better understanding called honesty, well in my world it does.
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt.Forum police? Who are they? - Oh, you mean folk that have an opposing view, and can trip out a sensible reply.x Not at all. Different views are good. I mean the ones that try to tell people what they can and can't ask/ post about.Like referring to folk as 'Forum police'perhaps ??. Don't try to tell me what to do!!! "Ditto.x | |||
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt.Forum police? Who are they? - Oh, you mean folk that have an opposing view, and can trip out a sensible reply.x Not at all. Different views are good. I mean the ones that try to tell people what they can and can't ask/ post about.Like referring to folk as 'Forum police'perhaps ??. Don't try to tell me what to do!!! Ditto.x" | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all" Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid  | |||
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"remember to play nice" Gosh, I bet none of us had ever thought of that | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid "Only if you care what others think, and/or are answerable to anyone. Otherwise, why should you care? Lol.x | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid "Agreed, however being honest about what behaviours you are looking for does not expose your soul. Life, to me, would be a lot easier if it wasn't important about getting one over on someone. Need to get back to my nieve, however happy, world... | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid Only if you care what others think, and/or are answerable to anyone. Otherwise, why should you care? Lol.x"Because I cannot predict the future and don't know what is around the corner. | |||
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"I'm far from trolling no time for all that bs. Was just throwing out an observation You can ask whatever you like. Ignore the forum police. I agree they aren't straight but people say whatever they like on profiles so best to take it with a pinch of salt.Forum police? Who are they? - Oh, you mean folk that have an opposing view, and can trip out a sensible reply.x Not at all. Different views are good. I mean the ones that try to tell people what they can and can't ask/ post about.Like referring to folk as 'Forum police'perhaps ??. Don't try to tell me what to do!!! Ditto.x"Guys come on. This is turning into a channel 4 documentary. | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid
Agreed, however being honest about what behaviours you are looking for does not expose your soul.
Life, to me, would be a lot easier if it wasn't important about getting one over on someone.
Need to get back to my nieve, however happy, world..."Could it not be possible that some 'Fab straight' guys on here at least feel they may have something to lose if they were 'outed'? How people label/define themselves is up the them, not the opinion of some forumites anyway | |||
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"Hmmmm, well i like people who explore, peeps look down on guys sooo much, the poor sods are scared to be themselves due to the ....perfect ones who will with there snake like tounges destroy them....given a chance
What do you think...?"I think I agree with you . Women with fluid sexuality , bi , bi playful etc,,, are commended , and rarely judged . Men on the other hand are often judged and looked down upon by their mates if they engage in any bi activity . Nice to see you again by the way | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid
Agreed, however being honest about what behaviours you are looking for does not expose your soul.
Life, to me, would be a lot easier if it wasn't important about getting one over on someone.
Need to get back to my nieve, however happy, world...
Could it not be possible that some 'Fab straight' guys on here at least feel they may have something to lose if they were 'outed'?
How people label/define themselves is up the them, not the opinion of some forumites anyway "Agreed.x | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid
Agreed, however being honest about what behaviours you are looking for does not expose your soul.
Life, to me, would be a lot easier if it wasn't important about getting one over on someone.
Need to get back to my nieve, however happy, world...
Could it not be possible that some 'Fab straight' guys on here at least feel they may have something to lose if they were 'outed'?
How people label/define themselves is up the them, not the opinion of some forumites anyway "Absolutely. But people can ask questions too. | |||
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"So much for honesty being the best policy especially when it comes to the net but thanks for feedback all Personally I find putting every last detail about oneself on the internet for all eternity is a bit stupid
Agreed, however being honest about what behaviours you are looking for does not expose your soul.
Life, to me, would be a lot easier if it wasn't important about getting one over on someone.
Need to get back to my nieve, however happy, world...
Could it not be possible that some 'Fab straight' guys on here at least feel they may have something to lose if they were 'outed'?
How people label/define themselves is up the them, not the opinion of some forumites anyway
Absolutely. But people can ask questions too."Of course they can. And how you phrase the question, inevitably determines the response. | |||
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"That's it, You lot have done it again! The OP has gone Unlos
S"He's gone UNLOS because he got torn a new asshole for daring to have a point of view. | |||
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"That's it, You lot have done it again! The OP has gone Unlos
S"Damn; and they looked like a genuine couple. All they asked was a question | |||
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"That's it, You lot have done it again! The OP has gone Unlos
S"I'm feeling quite ashamed of myself now! | |||
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"Oh well, what's that well used saying? Oh yeah... "Their loss"
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"Oh well, what's that well used saying? Oh yeah... "Their loss"
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