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"I watched the original series, but now I'm watching this I don't remember a lot of the original xxxx " I watched the original too. I read the book back then too. I have to keep looking away at the grisly bits. | |||
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"I watched the original series, but now I'm watching this I don't remember a lot of the original xxxx I watched the original too. I read the book back then too. I have to keep looking away at the grisly bits. " Sorry, this made me giggle. Imagining you sitting there going eaewwwwww xxxx Suzi | |||
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"Bit slow at moment , spose they setting the scene. will persevere I suppose" Slow? You have to get to know the characters. They're doing it in four parts and I think it was longer in the original so it will have to have some pace to it. LeVar Burton (Kunta Kinte from the original series) has produced this version, according to the opening credits. | |||
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"Is fiddler David hardwood?" No. That's Forest Whitaker. | |||
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"Is fiddler David hardwood?" do you mean david harewood? no lol | |||
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"I don't remember the first series, but then again I was only 12 when it was last aired" I was 12 when it first aired in 1977 and remember it as it was the first prime time show I remember featuring as mostly black cast and them as the stars. I think nearly everyone in my class at school read the book too. | |||
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"Is fiddler David hardwood? do you mean david harewood? no lol" Bloody predictive text | |||
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"Ohh it is much more violent .. dont like it. " But perhaps more realistic. The flogging made me cry and Fiddler calling him by his name. | |||
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"Is this a re run of the original series,or a new adaptation. I loved the original series when I was a kid back in the 70s. Another great show around the same time was the holocaust." It's a new adaptation. | |||
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"Is this a re run of the original series,or a new adaptation. I loved the original series when I was a kid back in the 70s. Another great show around the same time was the holocaust. It's a new adaptation. " Thanks,just found it on iplayer | |||
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"Just finished watching it not the same as before but well done " I don't think it could be the same as before. Audiences are different and a story about black American slavery is not uncommon now. In 1977 we hadn't seen anything that hard-hitting from the black perspective. | |||
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"I'm glad this is getting aired. I've seen it before but now I'm wondering at what she do I allow my offspring to watch it." How old are they? | |||
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"Ohh it is much more violent .. dont like it. " You don't like it, Imagine having to live it. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history " It was shown in America last year. It's not BHM here. I know what you are saying and the BFI had a Black Star season at the end of last year to show films covering many other aspects of black lives and history. Chi-Raq is available. Fences and Moonlight are at the cinema from this week and next. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history " Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide | |||
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"Is fiddler David hardwood? No. That's Forest Whitaker." I'm sure Forest Whitaker was also in the original series (not as fiddler), but as a rebel slave?? I think that Louis Gossett J was the original fiddler. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history " I watched a fantastic film about the black women who worked at NASA, on the space program in the 50s to 70s. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide " North and South That was a bit sexy in places. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history I watched a fantastic film about the black women who worked at NASA, on the space program in the 50s to 70s. " I want to see that. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide " 12 years a slave Amistad Django Gone with the wind Free state of jones Lincoln And that one with opera Winfrey in it. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide 12 years a slave Amistad Django Gone with the wind Free state of jones Lincoln And that one with opera Winfrey in it. Colour purple " | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide 12 years a slave Amistad Django Gone with the wind Free state of jones Lincoln And that one with opera Winfrey in it. Colour purple " Thank you. For the life of me I couldn't remember it. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history " Unfortunately when black history is bought up, slavery is always going to be the number one topic of conversation. It left such a stain on the world, and still reverberates today that people tend to focus on it, sad but true | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide 12 years a slave Amistad Django Gone with the wind Free state of jones Lincoln And that one with opera Winfrey in it. Colour purple Thank you. For the life of me I couldn't remember it. " The test was for the youngen | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history I watched a fantastic film about the black women who worked at NASA, on the space program in the 50s to 70s. I want to see that." It's quite emotional in places. | |||
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history Unfortunately when black history is bought up, slavery is always going to be the number one topic of conversation. It left such a stain on the world, and still reverberates today that people tend to focus on it, sad but true " To be honest, I don't think it's something that we should ever be allowed to forget. | |||
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media." Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough. | |||
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media. Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough." Arab and African slavery was different to European in terms of the displacement of people, wiping out identities, slaves dying slaves whereas in the Arab world slaves can buy there freedom, also the European slavery in Africa via colonialism has ruined Africa till today | |||
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"Episode two - it has a violence warning on it. " Watched it all on kodi....want to know the end? | |||
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"Episode two - it has a violence warning on it. Watched it all on kodi....want to know the end? " Erm... I'll plod on with ordinary telly. | |||
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"Episode two - it has a violence warning on it. Watched it all on kodi....want to know the end? Erm... I'll plod on with ordinary telly. " Binge watching is the way forward....like watching a 6 hour film | |||
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"Watched it online last night. I had a proper emotional breakdown. I was sobbing! I don't think I've ever been so emotional over anything on the telly... " I've been surprised at how moving I have found it. I saw the first version, read the book and went through the emotional mill then. It's a powerful story. The book is called Roots: The Saga of an American Family and that is what made it such a big hit back in 1977. | |||
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"Watched it online last night. I had a proper emotional breakdown. I was sobbing! I don't think I've ever been so emotional over anything on the telly... I've been surprised at how moving I have found it. I saw the first version, read the book and went through the emotional mill then. It's a powerful story. The book is called Roots: The Saga of an American Family and that is what made it such a big hit back in 1977. " Thanks, I quite want to read it | |||
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media. Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough. Arab and African slavery was different to European in terms of the displacement of people, wiping out identities, slaves dying slaves whereas in the Arab world slaves can buy there freedom, also the European slavery in Africa via colonialism has ruined Africa till today" Africa was a mess before Europeans even arrived. It was post European Reneissence after all. I saw an discussion with a Chinese businessman and an African guy. He wasn't constrained by the usual stuff we are so he just came out and said he couldn't understand why they were still so rubbish. He said that the Chinese didn't even have the railroads and motorways in the 80s that African nations had in times of Empire. He just couldn't comprehend it. Slaves are still kept all across the Middle East. And I don't know where you are getting the idea that only Europeans wiped out their slave's identity. That's far from the truth. | |||
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"I found both episodes hard hitting in places. We should never forget that slaves were treated like animals. It made me think and cry in places. " Animals were treated better. | |||
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media. Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough. Arab and African slavery was different to European in terms of the displacement of people, wiping out identities, slaves dying slaves whereas in the Arab world slaves can buy there freedom, also the European slavery in Africa via colonialism has ruined Africa till today Africa was a mess before Europeans even arrived. It was post European Reneissence after all. I saw an discussion with a Chinese businessman and an African guy. He wasn't constrained by the usual stuff we are so he just came out and said he couldn't understand why they were still so rubbish. He said that the Chinese didn't even have the railroads and motorways in the 80s that African nations had in times of Empire. He just couldn't comprehend it. Slaves are still kept all across the Middle East. And I don't know where you are getting the idea that only Europeans wiped out their slave's identity. That's far from the truth. " Before Europeans Africans already had what they needed, empires and kingdoms established. they didn't have western influence which has caused the destruction of Africa today, yes there's still slaves in the Middle East and guess what there's slaves right here in the uk too, as I said it's not only European slavery that wiped out identity it's is them however who did it larger scale. The worst slavery in those times was European. It was actually in the Reneisennce Africans introduced soap and bathing to Europeans, food for thought | |||
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"Africans were enslaving other Africans,it wasn't just Europeans that enslaved them.doesnt make it right,but it was happening well before Europeans landed in Africa." Which is fully acknowledged and covered in Roots. European enslavement was a different kettle of fish and the 'they did it first' doesn't get around that. Nor does it mean we shouldn't look at where that slavery led. Roots was titled as the saga of an American family. I think that was very deliberate. | |||
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"Good grief. Cant they write a new story? Ok. Brilliant 20 years ago butc'mon? More repeats?" Can't they write a new story It was about a real man and his enslavement and what happenend to him and about his family as it is today, it's not a story ffs | |||
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"Good grief. Cant they write a new story? Ok. Brilliant 20 years ago butc'mon? More repeats? Can't they write a new story It was about a real man and his enslavement and what happenend to him and about his family as it is today, it's not a story ffs " Not complaining about the original. I watched every episode. Just seems to me that everywhere you look some film or series is being repackaged. It is a heartbreaking story and I know it is true. | |||
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"Good grief. Cant they write a new story? Ok. Brilliant 20 years ago butc'mon? More repeats? Can't they write a new story It was about a real man and his enslavement and what happenend to him and about his family as it is today, it's not a story ffs Not complaining about the original. I watched every episode. Just seems to me that everywhere you look some film or series is being repackaged. It is a heartbreaking story and I know it is true." People tend not to complain about Romeo and Juliet or Twelfth Night being remade. Some stories lend themselves to repetition with new interpretations. | |||
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"Africans were enslaving other Africans,it wasn't just Europeans that enslaved them.doesnt make it right,but it was happening well before Europeans landed in Africa. Which is fully acknowledged and covered in Roots. European enslavement was a different kettle of fish and the 'they did it first' doesn't get around that. Nor does it mean we shouldn't look at where that slavery led. Roots was titled as the saga of an American family. I think that was very deliberate. " Maybe you could explain what you mean by "European enslavement was a different kettle of fish" | |||
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"Africans were enslaving other Africans,it wasn't just Europeans that enslaved them.doesnt make it right,but it was happening well before Europeans landed in Africa. Which is fully acknowledged and covered in Roots. European enslavement was a different kettle of fish and the 'they did it first' doesn't get around that. Nor does it mean we shouldn't look at where that slavery led. Roots was titled as the saga of an American family. I think that was very deliberate. Maybe you could explain what you mean by "European enslavement was a different kettle of fish"" Slavery to pay off debts or crime is very, very different to property slavery. Identities were taken. Language was taken. People died in vast numbers being transported in horrible conditions. Offspring born of a slave was automatically also enslaved and property with the parents having no rights to their child or the child rights to be with their parents. AND, the white Europeans decreed that black Africans were sub-human. When you have that level of identity taken away it is a vastly different kettle of fish. I'm not going to write an essay on this as the information is out there. When people deny that the types of slavery were different they miss the point about why this slavery still affects us today. I'm only commenting on the programme Roots now. | |||
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