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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Do you think a deal was done with the government to drop the council tax rise referendum..... And if so...should the rest of the country not get the same deal?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Yes I do. May be more apt in the politics spot.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes I do. May be more apt in the politics spot. "

Thanks and maybe it should...but there is one below about the NHS and tax..in the lounge for a while

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There was definitely some dodgy deal behind the scenes with this announcement today. I fancy that most councils won't get extra cash so that they can afford to provide good social care etc

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By *obin_and_marionMan
over a year ago

Beaconsfield

"Do you think a deal was done with the government to drop the council tax rise referendum..... And if so...should the rest of the country not get the same deal?"

Yes and yes.

The avoidance of providing any other rational explanation is sufficient proof of a stitch up.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

I'm pretty sure we'll find out in the next couple of days. But it stinks to high heaven.

The list of Surrey MPs/Ministers gives a possible clue.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you think a deal was done with the government to drop the council tax rise referendum..... And if so...should the rest of the country not get the same deal?

Yes and yes.

The avoidance of providing any other rational explanation is sufficient proof of a stitch up."

I totally agree...and I think the right wing forumites on here must agree too....as they are as tight lipped as Teresa May on answering this one

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

The Tories? looking after their own interests?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I missed the news today completely so forgive my ignorance, but...

Council tax raises are usually a political one anyway (with motive I mean), as the organisation itself would always want the extra income (especially as central government has cut most funding).

I think pretty much everyone can expect to see the maximum rise of Council tax this year, from all departments it goes to (police, fire, county and borough (if applicable)).

As far as I know that has always been 5%, so the I think the threat of it being any more is probably actually the red herring.

Apologies - I may have the wrong end of the stick and I've missed the news in favour of a bottle of red.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I missed the news today completely so forgive my ignorance, but...

Council tax raises are usually a political one anyway (with motive I mean), as the organisation itself would always want the extra income (especially as central government has cut most funding).

I think pretty much everyone can expect to see the maximum rise of Council tax this year, from all departments it goes to (police, fire, county and borough (if applicable)).

As far as I know that has always been 5%, so the I think the threat of it being any more is probably actually the red herring.

Apologies - I may have the wrong end of the stick and I've missed the news in favour of a bottle of red."

I think you will find it here...skip to 7 minutes 40 seconds

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=el-nh5XpIZ4

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Do you think a deal was done with the government to drop the council tax rise referendum..... And if so...should the rest of the country not get the same deal?

Yes and yes.

The avoidance of providing any other rational explanation is sufficient proof of a stitch up.

I totally agree...and I think the right wing forumites on here must agree too....as they are as tight lipped as Teresa May on answering this one

Right wing

forumites

here? Must be in that forementioned section. I'll have a red Lib - cheers

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

surrey council just made the govt blink over councill tax and now every other councill knows so suspect they will Have to do similar deals

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

As far as I know that has always been 5%, so the I think the threat of it being any more is probably actually the red herring.

Apologies - I may have the wrong end of the stick and I've missed the news in favour of a bottle of red."

cliff notes time...

1) council's are allowed to raise council tax this year by 2%

2) they are allowed to add another 3% on that IF all that money goes into social care

3) they are allowed to raise it higher than that if they want to.... but it must be decided in a local referendum

so.... surrey proposed a 15% council tax increase as they say their budget has been cut by 170 million in the past 5 years....

yesterday the council called off the referendum at the last moment.... and agreed to a council tax rise of 4.99%

and that brings us to today... and the text messages....

there... up to speed.....

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"surrey council just made the govt blink over councill tax and now every other councill knows so suspect they will Have to do similar deals

no... not quite.... the power that surrey had was the amount of high positioned tory government ministers it had.... and it wouldn't look good if tory controlled surrey county council were the first to try this....

could you imagine if lets say, liverpool, or newcastle, or sheffield tried this..... you would hear the laughter from here!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as I know that has always been 5%, so the I think the threat of it being any more is probably actually the red herring.

Apologies - I may have the wrong end of the stick and I've missed the news in favour of a bottle of red.

cliff notes time...

1) council's are allowed to raise council tax this year by 2%

2) they are allowed to add another 3% on that IF all that money goes into social care

3) they are allowed to raise it higher than that if they want to.... but it must be decided in a local referendum

so.... surrey proposed a 15% council tax increase as they say their budget has been cut by 170 million in the past 5 years....

yesterday the council called off the referendum at the last moment.... and agreed to a council tax rise of 4.99%

and that brings us to today... and the text messages....

there... up to speed.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As far as I know that has always been 5%, so the I think the threat of it being any more is probably actually the red herring.

Apologies - I may have the wrong end of the stick and I've missed the news in favour of a bottle of red.

cliff notes time...

1) council's are allowed to raise council tax this year by 2%

2) they are allowed to add another 3% on that IF all that money goes into social care

3) they are allowed to raise it higher than that if they want to.... but it must be decided in a local referendum

so.... surrey proposed a 15% council tax increase as they say their budget has been cut by 170 million in the past 5 years....

yesterday the council called off the referendum at the last moment.... and agreed to a council tax rise of 4.99%

and that brings us to today... and the text messages....

there... up to speed.....

Very well put

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Councils have historically always been compensated by Central government for not raising Council tax, but I agree it does seem like some kind of deal was done.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Councils have historically always been compensated by Central government for not raising Council tax, but I agree it does seem like some kind of deal was done."

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