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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm watching it but I might end up turning it off... It feels too soon.

Should the BBC have made this dramatisation of the Shannon Matthews 'kidnapping'?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Probably ..

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Probably .."

They have recreated the television plea, exactly as I remember seeing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the family liason officer from that case was on the one show last night, talking about it..

I also think its too soon and I'm not watching it

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town

"I'm watching it but I might end up turning it off... It feels too soon.

Should the BBC have made this dramatisation of the Shannon Matthews 'kidnapping'?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know why they have to make television programs about these things.

I won't be watching.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm turning over. It feels a bit wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry can't watch it ,what's it going to change ..nothing bless her

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By *uyfromchiMan
over a year ago

CHICHESTER

It was almost 10yrs ago

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It was almost 10yrs ago "

It doesn't feel that long, but you're right. Shannon is an adult now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got to say it was well acted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's filmed in Halifax not Dewsbury moor ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read an article from the grandparents yesterday who were saying it should of never been made

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm watching it but I might end up turning it off... It feels too soon.

Should the BBC have made this dramatisation of the Shannon Matthews 'kidnapping'?"
don't see a point this is in the interest or the place about a sensetive issue.....even now ..??

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

I watched it and thought it was really good and so well acted.

Don't quite know why you feel it's too soon. She will have been well aware it was being made. And given her permission.

The little red bottom on the remote that says on/off is your friend.

You have missed a good programme though. Xxxx Suzi

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Got to say it was well acted"

I stopped watching. The bit I saw was well acted but it was exactly that that made it uncomfortable. It felt too much like the news coverage I remember watching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the family liason officer from that case was on the one show last night, talking about it..

I also think its too soon and I'm not watching it"

By it do you mean the program or the case? I would have thought that a FLO discussing a case on a chat show is a massive breach if professional integrity. And discussing the program only marginally better. FLOs are there to support the family not to put themselves in the spotlight

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I watched it and thought it was really good and so well acted.

Don't quite know why you feel it's too soon. She will have been well aware it was being made. And given her permission.

The little red bottom on the remote that says on/off is your friend.

You have missed a good programme though. Xxxx Suzi "

I know how to use my remote, and did. I'm sure it was good, and I would have enjoyed it as a drama if I didn't remember the news coverage so well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Northen dramas are the best for sure ...either way .. But I still will not buy A TV license LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I watched it and thought it was really good and so well acted.

Don't quite know why you feel it's too soon. She will have been well aware it was being made. And given her permission.

The little red bottom on the remote that says on/off is your friend.

You have missed a good programme though. Xxxx Suzi

I know how to use my remote, and did. I'm sure it was good, and I would have enjoyed it as a drama if I didn't remember the news coverage so well.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

was very well acted

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

"I watched it and thought it was really good and so well acted.

Don't quite know why you feel it's too soon. She will have been well aware it was being made. And given her permission.

The little red bottom on the remote that says on/off is your friend.

You have missed a good programme though. Xxxx Suzi

I know how to use my remote, and did. I'm sure it was good, and I would have enjoyed it as a drama if I didn't remember the news coverage so well.

It was the reaction of her best friend that I thought was good. She was the only one who realised something was amiss. And not drawn into the hysteria of the masses. I found more drawn to her emotions than Karen.

Even at the time myself and hubby said Karen was crying wolf.

Did you watch the Damilola Taylor one the other week. I wept buckets over that drama ? Xxxxx

Suzi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliantly acted

Uncomfortable _iewing

Questionable timing

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I watched it and thought it was really good and so well acted.

Don't quite know why you feel it's too soon. She will have been well aware it was being made. And given her permission.

The little red bottom on the remote that says on/off is your friend.

You have missed a good programme though. Xxxx Suzi

I know how to use my remote, and did. I'm sure it was good, and I would have enjoyed it as a drama if I didn't remember the news coverage so well.

Even at the time myself and hubby said Karen was crying wolf.

Did you watch the Damilola Taylor one the other week. I wept buckets over that drama ? Xxxxx

Suzi "

I couldn't watch that either. I recorded it but I can't bring myself to watch it.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Brilliantly acted

Uncomfortable _iewing

Questionable timing

I'm sure that there are people who have felt the same about the dramas about the Moors Murders.

When is long enough ago? That's all I was really asking.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

"I watched it and thought it was really good and so well acted.

Don't quite know why you feel it's too soon. She will have been well aware it was being made. And given her permission.

The little red bottom on the remote that says on/off is your friend.

You have missed a good programme though. Xxxx Suzi

I know how to use my remote, and did. I'm sure it was good, and I would have enjoyed it as a drama if I didn't remember the news coverage so well.

Even at the time myself and hubby said Karen was crying wolf.

Did you watch the Damilola Taylor one the other week. I wept buckets over that drama ? Xxxxx

Suzi "

Yes.. it is soon to play it..

I did watch it and agree the friend was good.

How the bloody hell did it take so long to find her in the house , appalling police work.

I hope they have learnt by that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

THERE IS A GOD!

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

I hope Shannon has a happy, fullfilled life now. Xxxx Suzi

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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I am not sure why it was too soon? How long should it be before they made a programme?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Brilliantly acted

Uncomfortable _iewing

Questionable timing

I'm sure that there are people who have felt the same about the dramas about the Moors Murders.

When is long enough ago? That's all I was really asking.

I think we may have to have lived it to feel its full resonance

Ask my mum to this day about the Moors Murders and watch the venom fly

It was of her time

I can (just) remember The Yorkshire Ripper being at large

I can remember The Wests and Dr Shipman well along with this case

Because of the massive media coverage at the time, you may feel 'closer' to this case than others ?

Maybe this case isn't far back enough in your mind that the raw portrayals sit well ?

All conjecture of course, but I do share your concerns about the timing

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I watched it and thought it was really good and so well acted.

Don't quite know why you feel it's too soon. She will have been well aware it was being made. And given her permission.

The little red bottom on the remote that says on/off is your friend.

You have missed a good programme though. Xxxx Suzi

I know how to use my remote, and did. I'm sure it was good, and I would have enjoyed it as a drama if I didn't remember the news coverage so well.

Even at the time myself and hubby said Karen was crying wolf.

Did you watch the Damilola Taylor one the other week. I wept buckets over that drama ? Xxxxx

Suzi

Yes.. it is soon to play it..

I did watch it and agree the friend was good.

How the bloody hell did it take so long to find her in the house , appalling police work.

I hope they have learnt by that.

she wasn't in her house, think if i recall correctly she was in the flat of a relative of either her own or her partner..

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

She was in her uncles house. And Karen knew it xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why would they ever do a dramatisation of something like that.

Will they do one of baby P?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why would they ever do a dramatisation of something like that.

Will they do one of baby P?

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my opinion this not the place to talk about stuff like this ......grrrrr ... next? Its fab not the lorraine show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I enjoyed this programme last night and am very glad the BBC made it as it was quality _iewing. Sheridan Smith is a very diverse actress.

The drama focused on the key adults in this case and the victim was very much kept anonymised. It wasn't too soon as the victim is now an adult and I'm sure her identity has been protected throughout her life. I didn't feel in the slightest bit uncomfortable, why should I? We all watched and can probably recount the real time media coverage, it was played out for all of us to see them as it been dramatised now, it didn't spoil what was an enjoyable drama. Looking forward to next week.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

That fine line in soon enough for people to remember and too long for people to have forgotten.

I thought it enthralling and a great commentary on life then. If you missed it, then you missed something really really good but if you chose not to see it, then I fully respect your choice.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

The Mother is due for release I believe. She was an inadequate Mother, the family have said the dramatisation is inappropriate.

Personally I warched it and thought what the Mother did will have repercussions for all her children for the rest of their lives. That poor child was given another name and life.

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Pointless in dramatising it, we all know what happened. The reality and the fiction both make me cringe, either way.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

"The Mother is due for release I believe. She was an inadequate Mother, the family have said the dramatisation is inappropriate.

Personally I warched it and thought what the Mother did will have repercussions for all her children for the rest of their lives. That poor child was given another name and life."

The mother, Karen, was given an 8 year sentence, was released in April 2012 and given a new identity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why would they ever do a dramatisation of something like that.

Will they do one of baby P?

my opinion this not the place to talk about stuff like this ......grrrrr ... next? Its fab not the lorraine show"

Then just ignore the thread? It's not like the thread title didn't make it obvious what it was about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why would they ever do a dramatisation of something like that.

Will they do one of baby P?

my opinion this not the place to talk about stuff like this ......grrrrr ... next? Its fab not the lorraine show

Then just ignore the thread? It's not like the thread title didn't make it obvious what it was about

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it was a brilliant Northern drama ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently she Add A relationship in prison...one of them never met the person type of thingys. Like you read in the OK magazine a bit strange...think he was a turk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And she only did 4yrs of an 8 years stretch and now has a new identity and Shannon also now aged 18 with a new family ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I understand, from the reports and publicity surrounding this programme yesterday, it is intended to focus on the community and it's reaction to the revelations that came about concerning young Shannon, however, I can't help feeling that this gives further publicity to a woman (her mother) who behaved in a despicable manner to her own daughter simply in order to make a large sum of money.

Personally, I feel such dramatisations, call them what you will, should be banned - but then I guess doing so would be considered an infringement of freedom of expression etc and that the easiest response is to simply not watch such garbage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And she only did 4yrs of an 8 years stretch and now has a new identity and Shannon also now aged 18 with a new family ...

Yup that was a travesty her only doing 4 years and then being set up with a new life to start over

All of the peoples lives that were turned upside down, homes searched, privacy invaded and now she gets protected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sheridan Smith was brilliant I thought, it just seemed so natural and real.

I remember it all on the news and remember thinking something wasn't right when I was watching the mother doing the appeal.

I enjoyed anyway, and yeah they should make it into a documentary to maybe discourage other fruit cakes from pulling the same stunt.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

"She was in her uncles house. And Karen knew it xxxx "

my mistake ooops .. obviousy memory failure on my part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What next the bulger killers on tv

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

After watching this I am offended!!!!

All those fake Yorkshire accents

FYI, filmed on the Backhold Estate in Siddal in Halifax, Met someone on here who lived there.

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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago

secret town

"What next the bulger killers on tv

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Noooooooo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"After watching this I am offended!!!!

All those fake Yorkshire accents

FYI, filmed on the Backhold Estate in Siddal in Halifax, Met someone on here who lived there."
the people of Dewsbury are salt of the earth ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well DEWSBURYwell on the map this morning...all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The accents were fucking awful, the woman who played karen Matthews was awful, it was just very poor all round i though, normally like Sheridan smith as well

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

It took me ages to twig that the actress who played Karen was from Game of Thrones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They inter_iewed Shannons frend age 18) today and she said the drama was spot on and she was an extra initt!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bugger....just flicked through the telly guide and missed this doh

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

Read an article the other day that told of Karen Matthews being in a fish and chip shop and someone threw hot mushy peas in her face. Clearly her new identity is protecting her well.

4 years in prison from an 8 year sentence is standard. I pity her probation officer though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Read an article the other day that told of Karen Matthews being in a fish and chip shop and someone threw hot mushy peas in her face. Clearly her new identity is protecting her well.

4 years in prison from an 8 year sentence is standard. I pity her probation officer though. "

Don't know how it works....all I seen tonight was the last 2 minutes,but in that it came up that she was released in 2012....so her license will be up now.

Don't know if she will get any backup as in a probation officer.....but I think shevwill always need it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She might be on fab ..who knows these days there are some unscrupulous characters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Been a bit of a debate about Karen Mathews ex. He was beaten up last week after the moorside was aired.

The question is...he has been moved 5 times for his protection after serving his sentence and is having to move again......so should the film makers stump up for the costs of moving him as they will make plenty of money out of this production..... Or should the tax payer continue to fund this?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

If he has already had to be moved four times before this programme then it is obviously a problem already.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If he has already had to be moved four times before this programme then it is obviously a problem already."

And so it has been for Mary bell and the Bulger killers! But when they make a production about these crimes and the backlash is these are outed....who should pay....them or us?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I enjoyed it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Missed the second episode but enjoyed the first more than I thought I would.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"If he has already had to be moved four times before this programme then it is obviously a problem already.

And so it has been for Mary bell and the Bulger killers! But when they make a production about these crimes and the backlash is these are outed....who should pay....them or us?"

I think programmes are going to be made and have been made on about lots of different crimes. As that isn't against any laws then the programme makers are not doing anything wrong, so they shouldn't have to pay.

The vigilantes are the ones in the wrong here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If he has already had to be moved four times before this programme then it is obviously a problem already.

And so it has been for Mary bell and the Bulger killers! But when they make a production about these crimes and the backlash is these are outed....who should pay....them or us?

The vigilantes are the ones in the wrong here."

But they did pay the people off the estate where Shannon lived for their input....so is it not double standards?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"If he has already had to be moved four times before this programme then it is obviously a problem already.

And so it has been for Mary bell and the Bulger killers! But when they make a production about these crimes and the backlash is these are outed....who should pay....them or us?

The vigilantes are the ones in the wrong here.

But they did pay the people off the estate where Shannon lived for their input....so is it not double standards?"

I don't think so no. They were making a programme so they have to pay people while they are doing that. The fallout from the programme is some idiots have forced a move for one of the people in the programme. The ones who are at fault are the idiots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If he has already had to be moved four times before this programme then it is obviously a problem already.

And so it has been for Mary bell and the Bulger killers! But when they make a production about these crimes and the backlash is these are outed....who should pay....them or us?

The vigilantes are the ones in the wrong here.

But they did pay the people off the estate where Shannon lived for their input....so is it not double standards?

But it won't be just one....with the increase in the publicity will this not effect Karen also and do you not think by making this they souls have a social conscience as they will no doubt make plenty of money from this production?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Waiting for this to come out on DVD

so I can keep it in the drawer under my bed

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

"Waiting for this to come out on DVD

so I can keep it in the drawer under my bed"

Hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Waiting for this to come out on DVD

so I can keep it in the drawer under my bed

Hilarious

What a waste of space

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"If he has already had to be moved four times before this programme then it is obviously a problem already.

And so it has been for Mary bell and the Bulger killers! But when they make a production about these crimes and the backlash is these are outed....who should pay....them or us?

The vigilantes are the ones in the wrong here.

But they did pay the people off the estate where Shannon lived for their input....so is it not double standards?

As I said up there, no I don't think they should.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Anyone getting fed up of Sheridan Smith yet? I mean she's good an all that but surely we must have another actress who can do New Nine Part When One Would Do Drama?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"After watching this I am offended!!!!

All those fake Yorkshire accents

FYI, filmed on the Backhold Estate in Siddal in Halifax, Met someone on here who lived there."

Yes, I thought the accents were a bit dodgy...

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