FabSwingers.com forum: single male V single female

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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oh...

single women get treated shittily as well but at least we can get a fuck easy enough to help us get over that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nothing could be finer than to be in a vagina

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Lumping the whole site and all single males and all single females as one mass doesn't help.

Some people treat others badly, that is what's wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal.

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in."

Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nothing could be finer than to be in a vagina

so so true....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "
I agree let's take this to court

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in.

Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies

Especially the hairy ones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some men get treated like shit

Some women get treated like shit

Some couples get treated like shit

Next.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums?"

So this is where I'm going wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "

Are you prepared for your new arsehole?

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in.

Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies

Especially the hairy ones

Oh yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because women never get insulted and abused on this site when they say no, or get utterly vile and disrespectful messages and talked to like they're mere objects.

Absolutely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pussey sells lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pussey sells lol."

So do 6packs

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pussey sells lol.

So do 6packs"
That is right too

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience? "

To be fair I am sure there are plenty of single men who do get treated shittily, but I have no idea why people think women are treated like queens on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality "

How do you come to that conclusion? Do enlighten us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. "

That's a bit unfair. Society at large puts women on a sexual pedestal and men to... But to a lesser degree I guess

Women are universally hotter than men to both men and women being my theory

But yeah.... Single men are scum and should know their place

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality "

Really? And what responses have shown this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality "
Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience?

To be fair I am sure there are plenty of single men who do get treated shittily, but I have no idea why people think women are treated like queens on here."

and when you are treated like a queen it's only coz they wanna get into your knickers* anyway. once they've got in them you ain't special any more....lol, i'm gonnago one further and reckon while guys are fucking you they're thinking about how they're gonna go about their next conquest.

*i don't wear them, it's a saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal.

That's a bit unfair. Society at large puts women on a sexual pedestal and men to... But to a lesser degree I guess

Women are universally hotter than men to both men and women being my theory

But yeah.... Single men are scum and should know their place "

I don't think men are scum who should know their place. But if you feel women are being unfairly put on a pedestal on here, who do you think is doing that? It ain't me, that's for sure.

All the complaints I see about women expecting men to jump through hoops etc - well if men didn't bloody do it they wouldn't feel they could get away with asking.

So, as I said, be the change you want to see. But maybe don't do it by dragging your treatment of everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"But yeah.... Single men are scum and should know their place "

The only people I see on here who think that are the single men themselves. There is a habit of defensiveness creeping in that shows that some single men on here really do have an appalling attitude towards the women here. Its a vicious circle that won't improve anything.

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By *he_Raggedy_DoctorMan
over a year ago

Some where in West Sussex

We all get treated like shit how ever I think is there really any need for it ? No of course not !

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience?

To be fair I am sure there are plenty of single men who do get treated shittily, but I have no idea why people think women are treated like queens on here."

I have never sent a message of abuse to any male on this site unless it is in response to one they have sent me.

I have received some absolutely disgusting and abusive messages in my time, some of them I have never spoke to before either, and they have all been from single men, but I don't think I have been treated like a queen either

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low.

Some men really do have a complex om here

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"oh...

single women get treated shittily as well but at least we can get a fuck easy enough to help us get over that."

Yes i suppose that makes up for it.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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Some men really do have a complex om here

And it's not even remotely attractive. As I said, vicious circle. Why would I be attracted to someone with such a large chip on their shoulder?

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By *oluptuousWetOneWoman
over a year ago

Wokingham / Reading

Have you seen how some of them behalf to the bad reps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah well...time to burst a vein in my neck

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Some men really do have a complex on here

And it's not even remotely attractive. As I said, vicious circle. Why would I be attracted to someone with such a large chip on their shoulder?"

And some chips are huge! Really not an attractive trait in the slightest

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By *obwithkiltMan
over a year ago

Belton

"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in.

Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies

Especially the hairy ones

was skimming through thread...read this meaning hairy blokes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some men really do have a complex om here

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I'm not moaning I just understand how it works and empathise to a degree. Swinging is full of double standards you just have to accept them. Once you do that you change your outlook on it and focus on the things you can control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some men get treated like shit

Some women get treated like shit

Some couples get treated like shit

Next.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Some men really do have a complex om here

I'm not moaning I just understand how it works and empathise to a degree. Swinging is full of double standards you just have to accept them. Once you do that you change your outlook on it and focus on the things you can control."

To be honest, this is not the first thread where you have come across as having a huge chip on your shoulder, but I agree if all showed respect to others, the site would be better for all, sadly that will just not happen, doesn't mean people have to carry on the trend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I havent been here long so probably dont have a deep insight. But what i have noticed is, if a guy complains, women seem to come flocking to ether tell the guy theyre wrong or just have a go. Then you find the odd man whos probably just joining in to save face.

Like I said, i havent been here long. But im just giving my opinion.

Maybe single men complain too often and people have had enough, or maybe they just don't care what other people think. I don't know.

But in all fairness. Op could have worded his initial post better

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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I dislike the double standards on here, and do try to be fair. But if there's a post from a guy about cheating, he'll get a lot more flak about it than a woman posting the same. However you'll find its the men swarming on the woman's post offering to meet, whereas few women would choose to meet a cheating guy.

You really can't blame the women on here for that kind of behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back.

SINGLE MEN UNITE!

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "
no, some people are truly appalling. some people treat others with respect..your challenge here is to find and concentrate on the latter group, rather than the former group, regardless of gender..and get out on the scene more, rarely do you hear anyone speak face to face, like they do on the forums x

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back.

SINGLE MEN UNITE!"

What happened to the silhouette uniting?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back.

SINGLE MEN UNITE!"

What happened to BURN THEM ALL?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The title says it all

'Versus'

Why pit one group against another ?

It is lumping your own failures as a member onto the shoulders of others

There are obvious pitfalls for both sexes and, of course, for couples

To me, it is quite simple

Develop a format that works for you

If you can't, leave

Without the song and the dance

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The title says it all

'Versus'

Why pit one group against another ?

It is lumping your own failures as a member onto the shoulders of others

There are obvious pitfalls for both sexes and, of course, for couples

To me, it is quite simple

Develop a format that works for you

If you can't, leave

Without the song and the dance "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions.

Reported.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"It is lumping your own failures as a member onto the shoulders of others"

This is pretty much what it all boils down to.

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By *ddit...Man
over a year ago

Land of the giants... ;-)

"Lumping the whole site and all single males and all single females as one mass doesn't help.

Some people treat others badly, that is what's wrong."
agreed...

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions.

Reported."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Steps away from this one ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women do get flak, but admittedly it seems, not as much as men. But that's Fab for you, double standards are all over Fab like a rash.

Just focus on the positive people, those with double standards I avoid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ah well...time to burst a vein in my neck"

That'll be someone's fetish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*spelling mistake*

It really is disgusting. I agree. Some demographics are up for attacking though (like single men) So you just have to get used to it.

What stuns me is the hypocrisy shown by the women. Oops I apologise, apparently they don't like men "moaning". They might not fuck us we deign to give opinions other than those allowed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op break the cycle by treating others how you want to be treated and ignore the ones with bad behavior. A few rotten Apple's in every barrel... C'est la vie

Madame B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions.

Reported."

You can't report women.

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think women get treated any better then single men. I get abusive messages insults etc when I say I'm not interested usually it's single men that do but then I have a couple of male friends on here that have been nothing but nice to me (I met them on here) u will always get rude people no matter what gender they are just have to rise above them and have fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back.

SINGLE MEN UNITE!"

Not sure I have enough lube to unite with that!

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards."

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards."

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards."

Did I say it had to be a sexual verification? No. You're the one whose automatically turned it into that. I didn't say "guys who haven't met and fucked a ton of girls" I said guys who've been here a year with no verifications.

You can go into the chat rooms talk to people and go on cam so they can see you are the same person as in your pictures. You can go to an organised social and meet people to get verifications. If you've been on the site a year and not met one person, even just for a coffee. That shows a lack of actually wanting to meet. And if you can't make the effort to go into the chat rooms and talk to someone and ask them to look at your pics and then look at you on cam, that shows a lack of seriousness. You can't complain if you don't put the effort in.

I don't care how many verifications someone has. As long as they have at least one saying "this person is who they say they are". I've met guys with 2 meets and I've met guys with over 50 meets.

I wouldn't meet a woman or a couple if they had no meets and I know plenty of guys who are the same... but yeah. Sharing an opinion and wanting people to be who they claim to be is totally sexist of me (!)

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies."

I wish there was a crying laughing emoji!

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

In my post I specifically pointed out that I don't think all the men on here are arseholes and nor do I treat them like they are. But jumping on my post and picking out one comment, trying to twist it. Is not a valid argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op woman and couples rule . There a far more single men so it's basically supply and demand .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The way some guys talk to women on here is appalling, I wouldn't say women are treated good, they are by some but not all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in."

Literally!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Steps away from this one ......"

Chuck a grenade in and walk away. More fun that way.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

You have a history of twisting peoples words to suit your own view of the women on this site or even the site in general, I am suspicious of men on here for over a year with no veris, and most often from the messages they send me, I know exactly why they have never met anyone! Some social skills it seems can't be taught or learned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies."

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

My point exactly. And also, just to add to the point of "guys who can be creepy" - my profile has been looked at by a guy who has made a comment about this exact forum post in his status... hes out of my age range.. not saying he would have. But why post that status and then look at one of the women who have comment on here... if not with the possible intention of sending a message or making a comment about their profile? I haven't looked at the profile of anyone in this post.

Not saying every woman on this post hasn't looked.. but I havent been looked at by any women since I posted on here.

Not every guy on this site is a creep or a bad guy. But some are. Same as some women are arseholes and treat guys like scum.

It's a personality issue. Not a gender issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? "

People only treat you as you allow yourself to be treat

If guys are allowing this to happen to them then maybe they take part of the blame

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? "

Some women do that? Well your comment is clearly sexism and is against all women ever!!!

SOME women. Same as SOME men.

Anyone who puts up with abusive behaviour needs help in some form. I do not condone anyone abusing anyone else in order to get sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

Do l now?

I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front.

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

Do l now?

I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front."

So your argument with me about my comment of not trusting guys who have zero verifications after a year, was just for the sake of causing an argument?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it all comes down to attitude.

There are far more single men on Fab than women or couples and because of that the ratio of bad behaviour is multiplied accordingly. There are men (by no means all) who join expecting instashag and react with ignorance when they discover they are wrong. Like most women I have had abuse from some men after turning them down, their response is juvenile and for me simply endorses my decision. I do not respond with abusive messages, I don't feel the need, it is wasted on somebody with such an attitude.

I treat people with respect and hope for the same in return and for the most part the men who message me are respectful and polite and if declined they accept it graciously. I have made some amazing friendships with the men I have met via Fab and these have endured even when the playing stops.

Bad behaviour is not gender specific, here or anywhere else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

Do l now?

I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front.

So your argument with me about my comment of not trusting guys who have zero verifications after a year, was just for the sake of causing an argument?

In context, your point was specifically about men and i did say that the general point was good. And it is not argument, it's a debate/discussion. No insults have yet been exchanged as far as l can see.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad."

Agreed. How is that women's fault though?

"It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? "

I'm a feminist and can honestly say I have never heard that phrase before. I can imagine, however, the sites you might have picked it up from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a single woman I find it the other way round

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting.

Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made.

Do l now?

I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front.

So your argument with me about my comment of not trusting guys who have zero verifications after a year, was just for the sake of causing an argument?

It was specifically about men at that point because I was specifically talking about men. I did go on to say that if someone hasn't bothered to get a verification over that amount of time its basically laziness.

I didn't mean argument in that sense. I meant the argument you put across. As in debates, you "argue" for or against.

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By *D40Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "

Do you feel like a piece of meat?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "

Not all single men are treated badly. Some know how to behave and are having lots and lots of fun.

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

"*spelling mistake*

It really is disgusting. I agree. Some demographics are up for attacking though (like single men) So you just have to get used to it.

What stuns me is the hypocrisy shown by the women. Oops I apologise, apparently they don't like men "moaning". They might not fuck us we deign to give opinions other than those allowed."
actually its meant with the best of intentions, if we wanted to go out with a moaning whinger, wed get ourselves a husband...we avoid them, we want fun, a chilled out guy that doesnt think the whole world is against him..i dont want to meet with a miserable sod..so i advise not being seen as one, it doesnt help you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Steps away from this one ......"

I'm waiting for the chips.

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I been on n off site for bloody years single n couples profiles as when life twists n turns ....lol just going see am I on banter n ok profile or couples so behave page 2 secs .............. Oh behave lol as a single gent I have not really had any problems as I dont abuse others or ask for it .....have had a fare few comments on my grammar n spelling but water of a ducks back my pencil works twenty four seven n is always got lead in it lol I have a high iQ but hate spelling n English so just don't apply my self n can't be bothered with spell check n proof reading for a forum n status post.. If thats grounds for abuse n smart remarks I just think hay ho get a life people ..........From the other side of fence IE couples page we get a fare few off msgs when saying no thanks but yet again just kill them with kindness then press block ......Its the creepy can I pay to watch ....would you use me as a human toilet....n I just want a meet n fuck your partner msgs that piss me off....If people send sutch stuff I treat back with same content n respect they deserve.......my partner on other hand does get abuse randomly from single gents (term used very loosely) on her page when saying polite no thanks \with some one at present just chatting n so on ....Its da that some if not a high percentage of men think that this a glorified brothel ,and that as a women is on here she must sleep with them ,and can be abusive if not answered with what they want to hear .........fab should log I addresses and if profiles is banned so is ip address,would cut down a lot a fakes n freaks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think what the op means is not any action equals treated like shit

but great thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like single men, I'm looking for single men on here.

I rarely get abusive messages, don't ask me why, because I send the same, Sorry, I'm not interested message as women who seem to get abusive messages every day.

There are rude couples, men and women on here and single men are treated pretty badly but some of the arse licking by men on the forums towards women is uncomfortable to read.

Treat us like normal women, don't put us on pedestals.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

•+• Access Denied •+•

people can put me on a pedestal though, if they want to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree op. Hi 5.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back.

SINGLE MEN UNITE!"

yes lets get back to the banter we had between the pussy posse and the Dorises

ops showing how long I've been on here

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Pussey sells lol.

So do 6packs"

Not to everyone

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Fab is a terrible place for anyone to be, we end up meeting strangers and having sex.

It's shocking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? "

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

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By *entleman55Man
over a year ago

S’th West Mc/r

"Fab is a terrible place for anyone to be, we end up meeting strangers and having sex.

It's shocking

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Fab is a terrible place for anyone to be, we end up meeting strangers and having sex.

It's shocking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a couple that met on here so we have had single profile's also, we are meeting couple's, single men and women but view them all as individuals. Each profile will have it's issues and up to each person how they handle it.

I have found no sex or relationship status to be any better or worse than the other. People are people and their behavior is their behavior... It's how you choose to handle it or let it affect you is the only bit you can control. some days my tolerance level is lower than other day's and I can stoop to reacting to a shitty mail or comment on the forum's but much prefer the day's that I don't.

Madame B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

shut up and man up,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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..and there you have it! I didn't bother reading any further.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single woman I find it the other way round

wish you wernt an ageist !!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "

OP speaking as a male with a solo profile here , as well as being part of a couples account, and my partner have a solo female profile, I can speak from experience/direct knowledge of all three main types of profile here, and you're very much mistaken in your thinking.

With my solo male profile I can honestly say I've never been treated appallingly here by any of the ladies (unfortunately the same cannot be said about some of the single males that have contacted me) and I think that as much comes down to the way I've approached and treated any of the ladies I have chatted to on here.

So to say ALL single males are treated appallingly is inaccurate at best - sure some single males get what they perceive to be bad treatment, but I'd venture to suggest that that is only because of the way those individuals have acted in the first place, or down to their entitled expectations of the site.

On the flip side I'm aware of some of the abusive messages that my partner receives from single males and can only say that if you want to see appalling treatment then some of the messages single ladies receive is where it's at.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day"

Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry"

I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help.

Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender.

See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views

Totally agreed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Steps away from this one ......

I'm waiting for the chips.

xxx"

Salt n vinegar honey ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal.

More thumbs from me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. "

She says sitting cross legged in the lotus position with round glasses and a shaved head...

On a serious not that probably fell on deaf ears unfortunately, but never was a wiser true more empowering statement for the people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. "

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. "

Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "

I'd rather you didn't tar me with the 'single female' brush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course. "

If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course.

I agree. But you have to remember that women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't.

However, people should be nicer to people across the board. And not start bawwing every time someone else pointed out that they may be being slightly dramatic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby."

No, there's abuse and there's what you are talking about. Ruby is right. None of us are belittling real abuse but if men will put up with anything from a stranger on the internet for sex, that's not abuse but self flagellation and nobody is forcing them to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course. "

You ever seen 3 women fight?.... The fallout is like 50 men only it always last longer....so ratios maybe about right

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course.

Yeah, maybe keep those pennies. Just because women, in your eyes, don't treat others with more respect, it doesn't justify the shitty behaviour that occurs. I think everyone could show a bit more respect; it doesn't mean you deserve abusive messages.

Oh and I forgot to include the magical passive aggressive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby."

I'll refer you to my response to the post you deleted. Why do I need an alibi? I don't treat anyone badly. Male or female.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course.

I agree. But you have to remember that women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't.

However, people should be nicer to people across the board. And not start bawwing every time someone else pointed out that they may be being slightly dramatic.

Too many planks keeping eyelids open tonight...Must have all had a heluva night last night...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. "

You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling

I'd rather you didn't tar me with the 'single female' brush "

coments bundling single men/women/couples as having a common way of acting make no sense. There are nice/nasty people in all realtionship statuses.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't be arsed to read it!

Can someone summarise please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course.

Oh and I forgot to include the magical passive aggressive

I don't disagree for one minute with you on that fact.... I was pointing g out the imbalance of numbers was irrelevant and sorting out the home first is a good start and only start where change happens... Be the change you want to see in the world as Ghandi so eloquently and succinctly said....Then practiced it.

Must slinging from chipped shoulders only ends up one way.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Can't be arsed to read it!

Can someone summarise please

Sad men = women's fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Spare you what? Where have I claimed to "own victimhood"? And what on earth does the relationship of this guy you know have to do with men being taken advantage of for sex? You're turning this, as usual, into a rant about how men have it worse in life which bears no resemblance whatsoever to anything that anyone was actually talking about.

If your acquaintance was abused by his girlfriend then clearly she's to blame for that abuse, as the abuser. If your acquaintance was on a website and would "literally do anything for sex" like paying for hotel rooms or being ripped off for gangbangs then you're describing a wholly different scenario, and it's his fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some men really do have a complex om here

And it's not even remotely attractive. As I said, vicious circle. Why would I be attracted to someone with such a large chip on their shoulder?"

Depends if he's got salt and vinegar....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?"

Since he realised his argument was so weak he needed to throw domestic abuse into the mix

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby.

Do you think that I was describing the abusive relationships that some men find themselves in, in just that one sentence? Or do you think that I'm summarising greatly for the sake of convenience?

No matter the reason, for sex or other, an abusive relationship is just that. If you guys can't bare to acknowledge the men in those relationships because it fucks with the women = victim narrative that we've been fed since the 50s then that's not my problem and screams of what I've been talking about.

Women staying due to lonliess = abuse.

Men staying for intimacy and sex = self flaggelation?

Wow.

Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?"

I can't speak for anyone else on here or off of here...There maybe some there may not be....However the post was about treating others inappropriately...so it hasn't gone off the track yet unlike many posts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What the holy fuck?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby.

Do you think that I was describing the abusive relationships that some men find themselves in, in just that one sentence? Or do you think that I'm summarising greatly for the sake of convenience?

Women staying due to lonliess = abuse.

Men staying for intimacy and sex = self flaggelation?

Wow.

Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck?"

What the fuck are you even talking about?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?"

When taking arguments and paths of thinking to their logical conclusion wasn't taboo. Fab really should hire admins to keep threads brutally on track and prevent any other routes of thinking.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck?"

You're using a straw man argument to try and make a point that wasn't even remotely part of what was being discussed. If you want to point out the disparity between the official treatment of male domestic abuse victims to female domestic abuse victims that's a whole different thing, and probably needs its own post. But dragging it into a post about the treatment of men on Fab, which I personally believe is nowhere near as bad as some of the men think it is, is not helping the discussion, and just delegitimises anything you're trying to say here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't say I feel I have ever been treated appallingly on here, I get ignored a lot but that's not treating me appallingly.

One lady I chatted to blocked me for some reason but I think she just misunderstood me. Most people are either nice or ignore you, I'm fine with that.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?

When taking arguments and paths of thinking to their logical conclusion wasn't taboo. Fab really should hire admins to keep threads brutally on track and prevent any other routes of thinking."

I think you're getting unnecessarily emotional about something that has nothing to do with this post.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"I don't disagree for one minute with you on that fact.... I was pointing g out the imbalance of numbers was irrelevant and sorting out the home first is a good start and only start where change happens... Be the change you want to see in the world as Ghandi so eloquently and succinctly said....Then practiced it.

Must slinging from chipped shoulders only ends up one way.

I'm not even going to pretend I can comprehend that nonsense; it's evident you're not aware of the abuse that even the 'nicest' members can receive on here. The onus and fault should be on the people who send shit not those who receive it regardless of how many emojis are used to suggest otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't."

Speak for yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't.

Speak for yourself.

Although it's more like cinnamon buns and vanilla.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"...women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't.

Speak for yourself.

OK OK, maybe some do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?

What it has highlighted is how intolerant so many are about someone having a different view...personalising it and the having a dislike sometimes deeps eaten dislike for a person holding a debate that is differing to theirs.

There are some who can have good disagreements without personalising it all. That's what would be nice to read and engage in.

Closes door as he exits for now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby.

Do you think that I was describing the abusive relationships that some men find themselves in, in just that one sentence? Or do you think that I'm summarising greatly for the sake of convenience?

Women staying due to lonliess = abuse.

Men staying for intimacy and sex = self flaggelation?

Wow.

Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck?"

I was talking about on here, not relationships in the real world and you knew that so don't twist my words. Nobody is forcing men on here to jump through the bloody stupid hoops some women set.

But that's nothing to do with real abuse that goes on in relationships. I see this on a pretty daily basis with my job and nobody is belittling it at all, no matter who the victim is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind."

You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?

When taking arguments and paths of thinking to their logical conclusion wasn't taboo. Fab really should hire admins to keep threads brutally on track and prevent any other routes of thinking.

I think you're getting unnecessarily emotional about something that has nothing to do with this post."

If you aren't allowed to stray slightly from the topic then report it. Otherwise, talk about what you want and leave me alone.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind.

You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want. "

The trouble with self martyrdom? You can't quite get that last nail in.

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By *allandbeardedMan
over a year ago

stirling

Well that escalated quickly

Think the OP is off base though.For the few messages which I have gotten back all saying no thanks??,the ladies have been courteous and I have replied with the same courtesy. I personally treat folk on here the same as I would IRL.If you cant take the rejection then maybe this isnt the place for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must slinging from chipped shoulders only ends up one way.

I challenge you to get off your pedestal and stand in my shoes and walk some before making such a generalised sweeping statement. I may suggest you have no evidence as you've never met me...Will probably never meet me nor ever listen to anyone who knows me. I

I've probably seen and witnessed more abuse than most on here...so you might like to rethink you absolutism statements again. No emojos required.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind.

You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want.

The trouble with self martyrdom? You can't quite get that last nail in."
Hey martyrdom is a good perk on call of duty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards.

So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses.

One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies.

And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad.

It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again?

Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman.

Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby.

Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything.

You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me.

Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind.

You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want. "

Fictional friend? He's not my friend, more an aquintance of an aquintance, known so well because of the notoriety of his relationship.

Regard anything that leaves a bitter taste as fiction though. Whatever floats your boat.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"I challenge you to get off your pedestal and stand in my shoes and walk some before making such a generalised sweeping statement. I may suggest you have no evidence as you've never met me...Will probably never meet me nor ever listen to anyone who knows me. I've probably seen and witnessed more abuse than most on here...so you might like to rethink you absolutism statements again. No emojos required."

If I'm on a pedestal it's only of your placing. I stand by what I said. If people are sending horrible messages and acting horribly to others, the emphasis should be on those changing their behaviour. Not on the people receiving it. I'm not sure why you've made it a personalised attack; debate works best without that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest I'd rather be treated like a guy on here and be ignored. Beats being messaged by men who will literally say anything to get a fuck or the very lovely ones who are sooo inundated with fit women but still have time to message me oddly enough.

Don't think it's ideal for anyone on here or well anywhere. People will do and say whatever they please can't change that.

Grass is always greener I guess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can't be arsed to read it!

Can someone summarise please

Sad men = women's fault."

So funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in.

Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies

Especially the hairy ones

was skimming through thread...read this meaning hairy blokes

Partial to hairy blokes too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm getting more and more messages from men putting other men on the site down too. It's not an attractive trait in women and it's certainly not attractive in men.

There is good and bad to both sexes, but there are a lot of stirrers who try and feed the negativity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please read through my postings....show me where I said the onus is on the receiver? On the contrary if you read what I have said...clearly the responsibility for anyone's actions is their own. Take ownership...That's what Ghandi implied in his statement.

Secondly where have I made any personal attack too? I have just questioned not you but others on sweeping statements which seem to have no backing of evidence. Surely we should exercise the right to question things would you not agree? That's not a personal attack...Unless you take things too personally which I'd hope you don't. The forum isn't a place for those who take things personally it's supposed to be a place for open discussion and debate.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in.

Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies

Especially the hairy ones

was skimming through thread...read this meaning hairy blokes

Partial to hairy blokes too!"

Lowers his hand and uffs out his chest...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good night fabbers...Another night ...Another day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are on hand with hot milk and brandy for those that need it *

* other night caps are available x

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"The forum isn't a place for those who take things personally it's supposed to be a place for open discussion and debate."

You wrote earlier'If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more'. That's the part I most disagree with - if that's not placing onus on those who are being discussed as receiving crap, I don't know what is. The personalised attack began with the pedestal comment and continued. I don't take things personally on here - unless you know me or I am interested in knowing you these are just words on a forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling "

To me the only treatment that is relevant are with those you meet. If you arrange a meet, they turn up on time, they respect your boundaries, you have good time, then that's all that matters. Who care's about all the people you communicate with who you are never going to meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love being a single guy and wouldn't swop my experience on here with a single women's.

The biggest shock on here for me is how few of them are having regular sex.

Yes the odd woman let's it go to her head but most seem decent enough.

I think it's the male half of some couples that seem to be most likely to attack single guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course.

How would women being nicer to each other make men treat us differently?

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us.

Speaking collectively of course.

How would women being nicer to each other make men treat us differently?"

you've seen how nobody can attack bbw? that's coz women stick together there.

also things like womens rights (just not being treated like a prostitute and stuff like that even), or even something as simple as not replying to mens messages. women stick together there too.

when men see women wont put up with mens shit or womens it's good for us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What some men can't get their head around is that women they deem to be not attractive enough for them are being choosy, and meeting men they think are too good for said women; stating that the good looking men say anything to get a fuck.

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