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"If they want to make a "fact" based film then all references should remain in tact... " this it should remain as the original | |||
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"If they want to make a "fact" based film then all references should remain in tact... this it should remain as the original" The scriptwriter is none other than Stephen Fry, who has changed the name so as not to offend the Americans, for which market the film will be distributed, amongst others. Yet, as the report in my daily newspaper has shown, many visitors to an RAF museum, linked to the original story, have not found any offence with the dog's name; it has been accepted as an intrinsic part of the overall story and no offence has been taken. It is just Political Correctness gone mad! | |||
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"What does it matter if they change it. Neither the old or the new film are historically 100% accurate as its just not possible. What does it matter if they change the dogs name. There will be at least 100 plus other inaccuracys as well. Half the actors won't look like the real people for a start! " Shall we rename the RAF to just the Air Force in case any anti-royalists take umbrage. After all, none of the WW2 pilots are alive now so what does it matter eh? | |||
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"Plans are afoot to remake The Dam Busters, but an important part of historical fact is to be changed to accommodate today's sensitivities. This thread is intended for discussion about whether the film should be remade at all if it means changing history to do it. Let me explain. Guy Gibson was the Commander of RAF 617 Squadron and he had a black labrador that he named 'Nigger'. (I'll only use that word once, as I don't wish to offend anyone but I feel it's an important part of the story). The name of the dog means 'black' in Latin and Gibson named it that with no malice intended towards any other race. Typically, RAF flyers were recruited from the middle classes and most were private school educated and versed in Latin, the Arts etc. so his use of the word is easily explained. My point is this: An old black and white film exists - The Dam Busters, surprisingly, which features the dog - it died during the actual operation -, and it's name is used as a codeword for confirmation that the dams had been breached - and that makes it an integral part of historical wartime fact. Should today's filmmakers, who only want to cash in on the story with a remake, be permitted to change the dog's name, and consequently change the codeword used to confirm the dam breaches, or should the original b&w film be left to stand alone in telling the story of a very important part of history. " Poetic licence is used all the time, often pointlessly I'm afraid. One of these pilots used to be a neighbour and friend. Anything that celebrates what they did and reaches another generation must be a good thing surely. The rest is just pedantics. Mistress x | |||
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"leave it as it is the film is an all time classic" +1 | |||
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"leave it as it is the film is an all time classic" No need to make another one | |||
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"thay should leave the film well alone there is no need for a new film the b and w tells the story " And the black and white war films are the best anyway I went to 2 Polish cencentration camps and took photos in colour and black and white - the black and white ones were the best by a country mile - they truly conveyed the horror of these places So all hail monochrome movies and pictures | |||
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"Joking aside, I'm profoundly disappointed that Stephen Fry is in any way involved with this travesty of history. I really expected much better of him. " Snap I really thought he would have fought tooth and nail for a more realistic approach | |||
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"Joking aside, I'm profoundly disappointed that Stephen Fry is in any way involved with this travesty of history. I really expected much better of him. " In what way shape or form is this going to be a travesty? Nothing I've read about the film suggests that will be the case. For God's sake, they've hired the last surviving pilot from the raid as an advisor. | |||
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