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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Would you hook up with someone with HIV.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Socially yes...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Socially yes...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Socially yes...

Me too

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By *an Holo-Man
over a year ago

Yorkshire Dales

"Socially yes...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would you OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Socially yes...

Me too "

Socially, wouldn't make a difference to me.

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

" Would you hook up with someone with HIV. "

Are you asking because you have it ?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I'm not sure where this is going...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not sure where this is going..."

Probably down some uneducated, plague like reaction route. It's the way they usually go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I wouldn't have sex with someone with HIV nor meet socially unless they were somebody I already knew. X

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By *hoenixandflamesCouple
over a year ago

Stockport

Depends on the definition of "hook up"?

Socially, no issues.

Sexually might be a different question...

Really safe sex, health, viral load etc might have to be considered before I'd even consider it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I,m on here for sex, not coffee and buns x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I,m on here for sex, not coffee and buns x"

I'll keep that in mind for next time you ask advices on the forums

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I,m on here for sex, not coffee and buns x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If by hook up you mean casual sex then no. If you mean socially then yes. And it wouldn't be a deal breaker for a relationship either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I,m on here for sex, not coffee and buns x"

A dying breed!

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I have, I do & I will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People don't have sex on here any way. Lol Reading in between the lines

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Will talk with them but nothing else which could even remotely put me at any kind of risk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I wouldn't.....I don't wanna give them my crabs while they're feeling a bit down

I was reading awhile back that there was a trial being done on a cure because it hides in the eyeballs and such a bit like with the ebola nurse!.... There's nothing like a bit of western medicine when you've got blood coming out your eyeballs.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's feasible that we do unknowingly - the most infectious period is typically soon after infection - when they'll likely not know. Test results need some time to be able to show an infection.

When someone starts taking anti-hiv meds they won't have immediately the low rates of low viral load that sustained use people have.

All the more reason for the NHS to provide PREP prophylactic treatment for those at risk - like health services in other countries do. The cost of this is small compared to lifetime HIV meds.

If you have sex with others then assume that you're effectively having sex with HIV positive people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Casual hook up - no . Relationship - yes

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"No I wouldn't.....I don't wanna give them my crabs while they're feeling a bit down

There are a lot of trials underway around the world, looking at various methods to provide more effective treatment than we currently have - including seeking and destruction of the virus where it's effectively hidden from current meds.

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By *ackandsashaCouple
over a year ago

West Dublin

"I,m on here for sex, not coffee and buns x"

Lovely buns you have too

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

I wouldn't have NSA sex with someone positive but everything else is fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Would you hook up with someone with HIV. "

Yes I would.... bareback also...

We can trade sti's ..... I'll give them my herpes , clyamida , hepatitis a/b/c/d , and the can give me their HIV\AIDS

After we hook up we can have a awesome game of scrabble just using our diseases as a starting point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My uncle died of AIDS so I'm pretty scared of it so no I wouldn't knowingly sleep with someone who has HIV and I regularly get tested for it, as even though they I practice safe sex it still preys on my mind

Ruby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Would you hook up with someone with HIV.

Yes I would.... bareback also...

We can trade sti's ..... I'll give them my herpes , clyamida , hepatitis a/b/c/d , and the can give me their HIV\AIDS

After we hook up we can have a awesome game of scrabble just using our diseases as a starting point

You'll get F all for 'clyamida' that's the wrong spelling.

If yer gonna play scrabble stick to the rules.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Would you hook up with someone with HIV.

Yes I would.... bareback also...

We can trade sti's ..... I'll give them my herpes , clyamida , hepatitis a/b/c/d , and the can give me their HIV\AIDS

After we hook up we can have a awesome game of scrabble just using our diseases as a starting point

You'll get F all for 'clyamida' that's the wrong spelling.

If yer gonna play scrabble stick to the rules.

I'm sorry.... I don't talk about sti's often on my phone.... So the spell check doesn't work..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Would you hook up with someone with HIV. "

How would you know in the first place the person has it, if they are not willing to inform you

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

As with anyone I meet, it would depend on the person

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Hope this doesn't negatively impact upon the spirits of anyone who's HIV positive.

Whilst it seems that PrEP treatment is making a massive dent in the number of new people being diagnosed with HIV, I hope that more of us become supporters for this treatment to be made more widely available on the NHS. Treatments such as this can help make new HIV infections something of the past.

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By *elly39devonCouple
over a year ago

tavistock

might be obvious but to be truthful is why no one should have unprotected sex. I know its not as good with a condom but could protect you health

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"might be obvious but to be truthful is why no one should have unprotected sex. I know its not as good with a condom but could protect you health"

If no one had unprotected sex... the human race would become extinct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For a social yes, I imagine at some point in my life I've come into to contact who has HIV just unknowingly. I wouldn't engage in any sexual activity with them though as I'd consider it too high risk, no matter what precautions we took I know I'm too much of a worrier to enjoy the act and the time after I wouldn't relax until I'd had an all clear result from the clinic.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"might be obvious but to be truthful is why no one should have unprotected sex. I know its not as good with a condom but could protect you health

If no one had unprotected sex... the human race would become extinct

IVF

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is like a thread about people who fear drowning and decide to take up cross channel swimming contests... You can grease up all day long but it ain't no guarantee you'll not drown!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How would you know if anyone you meet has HIV? Is there a law stating they have to declare it? If someone openely states it then my answer would be no... simple reason you feel like you are at risk even if it's very minimal... on the other hand if someone had HIV and you don't know and you're attracted to them then yes.... a lot of people have it and don't know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hope this doesn't negatively impact upon the spirits of anyone who's HIV positive.

I can see wide spread use ofprep leading to an explosion of syphilis/gonorrhoea/chlamydia especially in the gay community tbh.

As people will just bareback as its "safe now".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How would you know if anyone you meet has HIV? Is there a law stating they have to declare it? "

Kinda, knowingly infecting aomone with HIV is Grevious bodily harm punishable by up to 25 years in prison.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How would you know if anyone you meet has HIV? Is there a law stating they have to declare it?

Kinda, knowingly infecting aomone with HIV is Grevious bodily harm punishable by up to 25 years in prison."

thanks for the info... i thought there were laws of decleration but wasnt sure.

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By *rMandMrsBCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Hope this doesn't negatively impact upon the spirits of anyone who's HIV positive.

I can see wide spread use ofprep leading to an explosion of syphilis/gonorrhoea/chlamydia especially in the gay community tbh.

As people will just bareback as its "safe now"."

The medical studies of prep didn't show an increase in other STIs which I find really interesting

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By *uperGuy68Man
over a year ago

Southampton

"I,m on here for sex, not coffee and buns x"

Not even a choccie digestive?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Hope this doesn't negatively impact upon the spirits of anyone who's HIV positive.

I can see wide spread use ofprep leading to an explosion of syphilis/gonorrhoea/chlamydia especially in the gay community tbh.

As people will just bareback as its "safe now"."

The London clinics that includes one where the highest rate of hiv infection has been historically tested have a 40% hiv infection rate fall for the last year but no overall increase in other infections. This includes one clinic where some people have take PREP, which seems to account for a massive reduction there in HIV new infection levels. prep is just one of many methods that are typically used and not in isolation. People have similarities whatever their sexualities and it's rare for people to only modify one aspect of their survival strategies.

Only abstinence can give 100% protection. People here writing that they wouldn't have sex with an hiv positive person are ignoring the fact that infection potential is highest when someone is more recently infected - and tests would not reveal someone's infection for a considerable time, meaning that no one could know. Protection that people have used will just give some protection, so that newly infected person could be infecting others.

New Prep trials are planned for the UK, despite it being used in many countries. The closest country where it's available on public health services is France.

It's economically stupid to delay it here as taxpayers will have to pay considerably more for hiv treatment costs for every preventable new infection, compared to what prep would have cost us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hope this doesn't negatively impact upon the spirits of anyone who's HIV positive.

I can see wide spread use ofprep leading to an explosion of syphilis/gonorrhoea/chlamydia especially in the gay community tbh.

As people will just bareback as its "safe now".

The medical studies of prep didn't show an increase in other STIs which I find really interesting"

Theres a big differnce between studies and widespread use.

Untill its common and well known we wont know the effects.

Medical studies show red wine csn be good for heart health.

Real world useage shows us people cant be trusted to drink it out of a real glass after dark

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By *ilary and DonaldCouple
over a year ago

chingford

I wouldn't even meet someone with a cold.

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By *igbikercMan
over a year ago

Southport

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So here's a further question.

If you knew from conversation that someone was on here with HIV and they had told you they're no longer bothering to tell people, apparently they will have safe sex so no need to tell! What would you do or say?"

I'd tell them i thought what they where doing was wrong and that i didn't want to know them any more.

There's nothing more i could do but that isnt a person id want in my life

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Hope this doesn't negatively impact upon the spirits of anyone who's HIV positive.

I can see wide spread use ofprep leading to an explosion of syphilis/gonorrhoea/chlamydia especially in the gay community tbh.

As people will just bareback as its "safe now".

The medical studies of prep didn't show an increase in other STIs which I find really interesting

Theres a big differnce between studies and widespread use.

Untill its common and well known we wont know the effects.

Medical studies show red wine csn be good for heart health.

Real world useage shows us people cant be trusted to drink it out of a real glass after dark"

Some of the research is based on analysis of data from 'real world' environments. We can do our own research, including that of London's 2 clinics in 2016, which showed a 40% fall in new infections, which had one clinic with PREP provision. Not all research will cover special testing environments and somewhat artificial conditions.

Now that PREP has been in use publicly in the USA for a few years (other countries too), we can also see how things have changed there. Obviously our populations and environments are different but some conclusions can be drawn.

The UK government has apparently decided to do another multi-year trial here. As the meds already have approval here for other uses, this is also a way to delay treatment more widely, as they didn't want to provide it via the NHS, having stipulated that local non-NHS budgets should cover it. This at a time when the government has cut local budgets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hope this doesn't negatively impact upon the spirits of anyone who's HIV positive.

I can see wide spread use ofprep leading to an explosion of syphilis/gonorrhoea/chlamydia especially in the gay community tbh.

As people will just bareback as its "safe now".

The medical studies of prep didn't show an increase in other STIs which I find really interesting

Theres a big differnce between studies and widespread use.

Untill its common and well known we wont know the effects.

Medical studies show red wine csn be good for heart health.

Real world useage shows us people cant be trusted to drink it out of a real glass after dark

From that data you can ascertain that people who bareback still bareback.

So hiv will fall but other infections will remain constant.

Prep remains a relative unknown to most people.

Onfe it becomes common and people ewuate it to making you immune to hiv the worry is those who dont bareback currently may now be pursuaded to

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"I wouldn't even meet someone with a cold. "

Yep. I have a compromised immune system so wouldn't knowingly put myself at risk of anything.

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