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By *imited 3Edition OP   Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

I've (mrs) recently resumed gym visits after a month off but I wasn't a regular gym bunny before this anyway.

I've been trying to go at least 3 times a week and just been sticking to the cross trainer (30 mins) and AMT (stepper, 10 mins).

My heart rate is around 170 when I'm going whereas my resting heart rate is at least 70 on a 'good' day.

I've read that it's dangerous to have such a high heart rate when working out. Is that true?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not at all, as long as your healthy! I've just done a cycle interval session and hit 188 multiple times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is fine as you are training hard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My resting heart rate in the day is 55-65.

I went for a long run with lots of hills on Sunday and averaged 153 with 173 max. It was hard work so what I expected.

Google heart rate zones - it isn't dangerous to be that high but it might not be the best for you want to achieve. Sometimes a lower heart rate I.e going slower is better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is fine as you are training hard."

Yup. I will be taking BP readings from my clients every 6-8 weeks but that's totally normal. It's your resting heart rate that you need to be concerned about if it is very high.

Eve. X

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By *weedishpstarMan
over a year ago

Hull

The higher the heart you are

Moving through fat burn to muscle burn zones. It is better to move into the zone for short periods and move your heart rate up and down this will give you a better workout

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By *axandbooCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

You know your body better than anyone else...and everybody is unique so what works for one might not work for you

The heart is a muscle too and it can get fitter the more you train specifically targeted at the cardio section.

But ultimately if you are seeking any actual medical advice and are genuinely concerned then speak to your gp about it and get them to run obs on you, take your blood pressue and listen to advice they give....also speak to a personal trainer at the gym.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is fine as you are training hard.

Yup. I will be taking BP readings from my clients every 6-8 weeks but that's totally normal. It's your resting heart rate that you need to be concerned about if it is very high.

Eve. X"

That is good and yes, it is the resting one that counts as when you are exercising it will get higher.

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By *imited 3Edition OP   Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"Not at all, as long as your healthy! I've just done a cycle interval session and hit 188 multiple times. "

I think healthy is what I'm aiming for.. Not necessarily where I am at! I do wonder...

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By *imited 3Edition OP   Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"You know your body better than anyone else...and everybody is unique so what works for one might not work for you

The heart is a muscle too and it can get fitter the more you train specifically targeted at the cardio section.

But ultimately if you are seeking any actual medical advice and are genuinely concerned then speak to your gp about it and get them to run obs on you, take your blood pressue and listen to advice they give....also speak to a personal trainer at the gym. "

The last GP I spoke to about high cholesterol was useless... Told me they won't do anything for high cholesterol unless and until I get diabetes or such like

I was only looking for advice not meds!

I'll see a different GP instead.. And also chat to one of the PT at the gym. Thanks for the advice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The higher the heart you are

Moving through fat burn to muscle burn zones. It is better to move into the zone for short periods and move your heart rate up and down this will give you a better workout "

Depends what you're working out for but I get what you're getting at.

I find going for a brisk walk is better for fat loss than going balls out on a treadmill / running / hiit stuff. Get up to around 120-130 bpm and keep it there.

And let's be honest. Fat loss is what most people want from the gym etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You know your body better than anyone else...and everybody is unique so what works for one might not work for you

The heart is a muscle too and it can get fitter the more you train specifically targeted at the cardio section.

But ultimately if you are seeking any actual medical advice and are genuinely concerned then speak to your gp about it and get them to run obs on you, take your blood pressue and listen to advice they give....also speak to a personal trainer at the gym.

The last GP I spoke to about high cholesterol was useless... Told me they won't do anything for high cholesterol unless and until I get diabetes or such like

I was only looking for advice not meds!

I'll see a different GP instead.. And also chat to one of the PT at the gym. Thanks for the advice "

If cholesterol is the issue I implore you to reduce your processed food intake, not your fat / sat fat intake. And read "the great cholesterol con"

I've been saying it for years and recently it's much more mainstream with even the Nhs acknowledging that fats aren't the enemy of weight and weight dependant disease

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You know your body better than anyone else...and everybody is unique so what works for one might not work for you

The heart is a muscle too and it can get fitter the more you train specifically targeted at the cardio section.

But ultimately if you are seeking any actual medical advice and are genuinely concerned then speak to your gp about it and get them to run obs on you, take your blood pressue and listen to advice they give....also speak to a personal trainer at the gym.

The last GP I spoke to about high cholesterol was useless... Told me they won't do anything for high cholesterol unless and until I get diabetes or such like

I was only looking for advice not meds!

I'll see a different GP instead.. And also chat to one of the PT at the gym. Thanks for the advice

If cholesterol is the issue I implore you to reduce your processed food intake, not your fat / sat fat intake. And read "the great cholesterol con"

I've been saying it for years and recently it's much more mainstream with even the Nhs acknowledging that fats aren't the enemy of weight and weight dependant disease"

Exactly!! I preach to anyone who will listen that we need fats in our diets..good fats anyway!

Plenty of full fat dairy products, avocados, eggs etc etc.

Eve. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You know your body better than anyone else...and everybody is unique so what works for one might not work for you

The heart is a muscle too and it can get fitter the more you train specifically targeted at the cardio section.

But ultimately if you are seeking any actual medical advice and are genuinely concerned then speak to your gp about it and get them to run obs on you, take your blood pressue and listen to advice they give....also speak to a personal trainer at the gym.

The last GP I spoke to about high cholesterol was useless... Told me they won't do anything for high cholesterol unless and until I get diabetes or such like

I was only looking for advice not meds!

I'll see a different GP instead.. And also chat to one of the PT at the gym. Thanks for the advice

If cholesterol is the issue I implore you to reduce your processed food intake, not your fat / sat fat intake. And read "the great cholesterol con"

I've been saying it for years and recently it's much more mainstream with even the Nhs acknowledging that fats aren't the enemy of weight and weight dependant disease

Exactly!! I preach to anyone who will listen that we need fats in our diets..good fats anyway!

Plenty of full fat dairy products, avocados, eggs etc etc.

Eve. X"

Only those who will listen!?

The thing is, when you understand cholesterol and how it works it's like a

Lightbulb isn't it? The thing is that people without any knowledge or understanding are preaching via news etc and have convinced the population that high = bad. So we all believe it and follow like good little sheep.

What many don't realise that it's higher as we age for a bloody good reason.

Anyway, I'm ranting now. Back in my box.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You know your body better than anyone else...and everybody is unique so what works for one might not work for you

The heart is a muscle too and it can get fitter the more you train specifically targeted at the cardio section.

But ultimately if you are seeking any actual medical advice and are genuinely concerned then speak to your gp about it and get them to run obs on you, take your blood pressue and listen to advice they give....also speak to a personal trainer at the gym.

The last GP I spoke to about high cholesterol was useless... Told me they won't do anything for high cholesterol unless and until I get diabetes or such like

I was only looking for advice not meds!

I'll see a different GP instead.. And also chat to one of the PT at the gym. Thanks for the advice

If cholesterol is the issue I implore you to reduce your processed food intake, not your fat / sat fat intake. And read "the great cholesterol con"

I've been saying it for years and recently it's much more mainstream with even the Nhs acknowledging that fats aren't the enemy of weight and weight dependant disease

Exactly!! I preach to anyone who will listen that we need fats in our diets..good fats anyway!

Plenty of full fat dairy products, avocados, eggs etc etc.

Eve. X

Only those who will listen!?

The thing is, when you understand cholesterol and how it works it's like a

Lightbulb isn't it? The thing is that people without any knowledge or understanding are preaching via news etc and have convinced the population that high = bad. So we all believe it and follow like good little sheep.

What many don't realise that it's higher as we age for a bloody good reason.

Anyway, I'm ranting now. Back in my box. "

Ha ha rant all you like! I'm like a sponge when it comes to good nutritional advice!

It particularly grind my gears when women go on crazy low fat diets because that's what the media is telling them to do, not knowing that women need fat to balance our hormones etc. A low fat diet can have detrimental effects.

I'll shush now too ha ha.

Eve. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that's because fat makes you fat doesn't it! I mean, eat fat you'll get fat

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I've (mrs) recently resumed gym visits after a month off but I wasn't a regular gym bunny before this anyway.

I've been trying to go at least 3 times a week and just been sticking to the cross trainer (30 mins) and AMT (stepper, 10 mins).

My heart rate is around 170 when I'm going whereas my resting heart rate is at least 70 on a 'good' day.

I've read that it's dangerous to have such a high heart rate when working out. Is that true? "

Ok it can be simple

It can be complicated

So rule of thumb

Max heart rate calc is 220 less age

This gives a theoretical number to BASE training heart rate on

Not all heart rate monitors are accurate at high heart rates , chest straps are best wrist rates are OK but NOT to be depended upon

The machine monitors are also not to be depended on they are slow to respond and not good for high impact

So what does it all mean

You or a trainer need to decide the training heart rate zones you wish to be in

As mentioned above depending on age the 120 to 130 is a fat burning zone

However if you are looking for cardiovascular health strength and improvement then aiming for shortish intervals towards 80 90 percent of your theoretical max is advantageous

The less fit one is usually the higher the heart rate for less loading

However the best measure is recovery heart rate

That would be your 80 percent training heart rate and then subtracting your heart rate 2 mins of resting

10 is poor 40 is good

Although your 170 rate may not be dangerous , it may not be constructive to progressively achieving your body and fitness goals and it may indicate a susceptibility to causing injury

I'd seek on site professional assistance xx to guide you knowing more about you your goals and health

WE MAY MIS GUIDE YOU xx

Training plans should not be generic they really should be personal xxx

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By *imited 3Edition OP   Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"You know your body better than anyone else...and everybody is unique so what works for one might not work for you

The heart is a muscle too and it can get fitter the more you train specifically targeted at the cardio section.

But ultimately if you are seeking any actual medical advice and are genuinely concerned then speak to your gp about it and get them to run obs on you, take your blood pressue and listen to advice they give....also speak to a personal trainer at the gym.

The last GP I spoke to about high cholesterol was useless... Told me they won't do anything for high cholesterol unless and until I get diabetes or such like

I was only looking for advice not meds!

I'll see a different GP instead.. And also chat to one of the PT at the gym. Thanks for the advice

If cholesterol is the issue I implore you to reduce your processed food intake, not your fat / sat fat intake. And read "the great cholesterol con"

I've been saying it for years and recently it's much more mainstream with even the Nhs acknowledging that fats aren't the enemy of weight and weight dependant disease

Exactly!! I preach to anyone who will listen that we need fats in our diets..good fats anyway!

Plenty of full fat dairy products, avocados, eggs etc etc.

Eve. X"

Im not a low fat dieter and we use butter instead of marg, have full fat dairy etc. Should up my eggs and avocado intake though..

I should read up more to figure out why my cholesterol might be high in the first place as I think it's more endocrine system related than diet related.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's how quickly it recovers that counts

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By *imited 3Edition OP   Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"I've (mrs) recently resumed gym visits after a month off but I wasn't a regular gym bunny before this anyway.

I've been trying to go at least 3 times a week and just been sticking to the cross trainer (30 mins) and AMT (stepper, 10 mins).

My heart rate is around 170 when I'm going whereas my resting heart rate is at least 70 on a 'good' day.

I've read that it's dangerous to have such a high heart rate when working out. Is that true?

Ok it can be simple

It can be complicated

So rule of thumb

Max heart rate calc is 220 less age

This gives a theoretical number to BASE training heart rate on

Not all heart rate monitors are accurate at high heart rates , chest straps are best wrist rates are OK but NOT to be depended upon

The machine monitors are also not to be depended on they are slow to respond and not good for high impact

So what does it all mean

You or a trainer need to decide the training heart rate zones you wish to be in

As mentioned above depending on age the 120 to 130 is a fat burning zone

However if you are looking for cardiovascular health strength and improvement then aiming for shortish intervals towards 80 90 percent of your theoretical max is advantageous

The less fit one is usually the higher the heart rate for less loading

However the best measure is recovery heart rate

That would be your 80 percent training heart rate and then subtracting your heart rate 2 mins of resting

10 is poor 40 is good

Although your 170 rate may not be dangerous , it may not be constructive to progressively achieving your body and fitness goals and it may indicate a susceptibility to causing injury

I'd seek on site professional assistance xx to guide you knowing more about you your goals and health

WE MAY MIS GUIDE YOU xx

Training plans should not be generic they really should be personal xxx"

Definitely going to speak to the PT at the gym... Thanks for attempting to (mis)guide me

I think I can make enough sense of everything that's been mentioned on this thread to figure my heart is maybe not too healthy!

But hopefully I can make it stronger the right way

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Op - sounds like a good plan.

And recent evidence suggests that people who mainly only manage to exercise around weekend time aren't doing too much worse than others who exercise more frequently all week. This isn't related to you op but others who don't manage high frequency training.

We can lower our bad cholesterol naturally - even soya can help with this.

I eat dairy and eggs most days though prefer skim milk, which I drink often instead of water.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My resting heart rate is 57 bpm. I thought that was low.

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By *imited 3Edition OP   Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

Quick update: went to the GP after work today... My bp was 158/97 and heart rate was 98

Going for an ECG and blood tests tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Quick update: went to the GP after work today... My bp was 158/97 and heart rate was 98

Going for an ECG and blood tests tomorrow"

That is relatively high OP, did your GP prescribe any medication? I think BP is more difficult to manage than cholesterol as it tends to be more multifactorial. But at that BP I wouldn't advise any strenuous exercise until it has significantly reduced, but that doesn't mean you can't exercise! Good luck with it all OP, you sound like you have your head screwed on anyway!

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By *imited 3Edition OP   Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"Quick update: went to the GP after work today... My bp was 158/97 and heart rate was 98

Going for an ECG and blood tests tomorrow

That is relatively high OP, did your GP prescribe any medication? I think BP is more difficult to manage than cholesterol as it tends to be more multifactorial. But at that BP I wouldn't advise any strenuous exercise until it has significantly reduced, but that doesn't mean you can't exercise! Good luck with it all OP, you sound like you have your head screwed on anyway! "

Thanks! My ECG trace said 'consider left ventricular hypertrophy'

But given that this was the machines interpretation of my trace, I'll wait until an expert has looked at it before I start to worry!

On the plus side, a couple of low dose aspirin and some chamomile tea has brought my bp and pulse right down! I would love to know what made the difference...it's like magic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rule of thumb is keep it below 220 minus your age.....so should be fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is fine as you are training hard.

Yup. I will be taking BP readings from my clients every 6-8 weeks but that's totally normal. It's your resting heart rate that you need to be concerned about if it is very high.

Eve. X"

Can you take my BP reading please ?

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