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By *D40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

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over a year ago

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40"

I hate running, try a fast walk on an incline, running is bad on the knees and my chest isn't built to run!

Mrs SnT

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

You could swap the treadmill for a cross-trainer. It's a similar action to running, but much lower impact. No pounding of knees and ankles.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I steer clear of running, I prefer to go for a brisk 30 minute walk ..

but I'm lucky as its very hilly where I live..

I think if you have never run before then you should ease yourself in gently

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By *r havin a laughMan
over a year ago

Innerleithen

Fast walk on steep incline done frequently will owe you weight as long as you do it for long enough and your die is okay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

You must get out of breath and (if not swimming), sweat.

Eat less.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

I hate running, try a fast walk on an incline, running is bad on the knees and my chest isn't built to run!

Mrs SnT "

overweight runner of 4 years here and my knees are fine...in fact the running has stabalised a torn ACL injury i have had for years!

OP....just take it easy. running doesnt have to mean belting along at Mo Farah speeds! if you do want to run i would highly recommend a couch 2 5k programme. you can get apps on your phone if you want to use a treadmill to do it.

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

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By *D40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

I hate running, try a fast walk on an incline, running is bad on the knees and my chest isn't built to run!

Mrs SnT

overweight runner of 4 years here and my knees are fine...in fact the running has stabalised a torn ACL injury i have had for years!

I was half way through the first session.

Think the incline walking will be a good start

Thanks all

Mrs _d40

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Try the cycling machine for a kilometre, then drink water and rest for a couple of minutes, then walk for a kilometre, resist and drink, then cross-trainer and rest and drink. As Cali said, avoid anything that will cause impact damage. Stretching exercises can also start to loosen up muscles unused to activity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

Utter rubbish. So how fit do you have to be to start?

OP you have done too much too soon. Look up couch to 5km beginner plans and follow that. Trust me far bigger and less fit than you have done well off it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

Utter rubbish. So how fit do you have to be to start?

OP you have done too much too soon. Look up couch to 5km beginner plans and follow that. Trust me far bigger and less fit than you have done well off it"

I'm interested in which bit is 'utter rubbish'...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately."

see my post above....was over 19 stone when i started....still fat at over 16 stone, knees a-ok and injury free to date.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately."

Youd need to be obese before knee damage possibly becomes an issue. Lack of decent running shoes is more likely to fuck up knees than weight.

Start easy and build up and knees will be fine

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over a year ago

"Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

Utter rubbish. So how fit do you have to be to start?

OP you have done too much too soon. Look up couch to 5km beginner plans and follow that. Trust me far bigger and less fit than you have done well off it

I'm interested in which bit is 'utter rubbish'..."

The suggestion that you should do other sports to get fit enough to jog

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately.

see my post above....was over 19 stone when i started....still fat at over 16 stone, knees a-ok and injury free to date."

You're not the one saying you couldn't move for a week after jogging

It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing.

Although it sounds as though you'd benefit from a change in programme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

Utter rubbish. So how fit do you have to be to start?

OP you have done too much too soon. Look up couch to 5km beginner plans and follow that. Trust me far bigger and less fit than you have done well off it

I'm interested in which bit is 'utter rubbish'...

The suggestion that you should do other sports to get fit enough to jog"

The suggestion was to do something to lose weight, gain strength (and confidence) before progressing to more strenuous activities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately.

see my post above....was over 19 stone when i started....still fat at over 16 stone, knees a-ok and injury free to date.

You're not the one saying you couldn't move for a week after jogging

It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing.

Although it sounds as though you'd benefit from a change i programme."

But there's no mention of knees in the opening post. It's pretty obvious the legs are fucked from DOMS which is dowm to doing too much too soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

Utter rubbish. So how fit do you have to be to start?

OP you have done too much too soon. Look up couch to 5km beginner plans and follow that. Trust me far bigger and less fit than you have done well off it

I'm interested in which bit is 'utter rubbish'...

The suggestion that you should do other sports to get fit enough to jog

The suggestion was to do something to lose weight, gain strength (and confidence) before progressing to more strenuous activities.

Out of interest do you run?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

Utter rubbish. So how fit do you have to be to start?

OP you have done too much too soon. Look up couch to 5km beginner plans and follow that. Trust me far bigger and less fit than you have done well off it

I'm interested in which bit is 'utter rubbish'...

The suggestion that you should do other sports to get fit enough to jog

The suggestion was to do something to lose weight, gain strength (and confidence) before progressing to more strenuous activities.

Out of interest do you run?"

For the benefit of your interest. Yes.

I also hold a degree in Sport Science, played professional sport most my life and still coach now.

But you knock yourself out on my cluelessness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40"

Probably because it's an impact kinda sport so I'd try starting with something that's a lot less impacting so do cycling and rowing machines and swimming too to help you start off with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

Probably because it's an impact kinda sport so I'd try starting with something that's a lot less impacting so do cycling and rowing machines and swimming too to help you start off with "

Already suggested.

Unfortunately it turns out it's 'utter rubbish'

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

You only need to increase your heart rate and sustain it for it to have benefit. If you start to sweat you have increased your heart rate too fast and will be burning up water not fat. By increasing your heart rate gradually and quickening your rate over a longer period, you will burn more fat and be able to work out longer. Your muscles won't be as fatigued as a result.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

Probably because it's an impact kinda sport so I'd try starting with something that's a lot less impacting so do cycling and rowing machines and swimming too to help you start off with

Already suggested.

Unfortunately it turns out it's 'utter rubbish'

Haha madness lol they are good methods to help increase your fitness and won't cause as much pain as running lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

Probably because it's an impact kinda sport so I'd try starting with something that's a lot less impacting so do cycling and rowing machines and swimming too to help you start off with

Already suggested.

Unfortunately it turns out it's 'utter rubbish'

Haha madness lol they are good methods to help increase your fitness and won't cause as much pain as running lol

You'd think wouldn't ya

Anyway before this becomes an angry rant zone... good luck to the OP and whatever you choose to do, make it something you enjoy - then you'll do more of it

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

I hate running, try a fast walk on an incline, running is bad on the knees and my chest isn't built to run!

Mrs SnT

overweight runner of 4 years here and my knees are fine...in fact the running has stabalised a torn ACL injury i have had for years!

Totally agree with this.

I have just lost 2 stones in 4 months running up to 20k a week.

I have arthritis in one knee and pelvic problems.

I was told I would never run again! Started with 10 mins and now few years on I can run for 1 hour comfortably with no pain!

Know your body, be sensible and realistic about what you want to achieve. And remember (I try to) that pushing the body too much will only open doors to injuries and immobilise you for 6 weeks.

Which is a pain if you are on your way to get fit.

Slowly but surely and regularly.

Good luck OP

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately.

see my post above....was over 19 stone when i started....still fat at over 16 stone, knees a-ok and injury free to date.

You're not the one saying you couldn't move for a week after jogging

It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing.

Although it sounds as though you'd benefit from a change in programme."

i'm very happy with my programme thanks all the same

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40

Probably because it's an impact kinda sport so I'd try starting with something that's a lot less impacting so do cycling and rowing machines and swimming too to help you start off with "

A lot of people don't realise that cycling/rowing is not the best if you have lower back/neck problems/weakness. Yeah less impact on your knees but look at what's happening upper body!

Same with swimming, lower back and neck can be affect depending on your back.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately.

see my post above....was over 19 stone when i started....still fat at over 16 stone, knees a-ok and injury free to date.

You're not the one saying you couldn't move for a week after jogging

It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing.

Although it sounds as though you'd benefit from a change in programme."

also....you made it one size fits all by insinuating that if you are fat you shouldn't run....i was proving that it is absolutely possible to run and run injury free even if you are a heffer like me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need to run

No need to go to the gym

The gym makes muscles put pushing against the fat making you bigger / heavier

All you need to do is walk and the pounds will fall off

Start a mile a night . Build it up to 5 ..

Pounds will fall off and not damage knees and hips

Try the app map my walk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's an urban myth that running is bad for your knees

It's actually recognised that running strengthens all of your leg joints.

Op you've just gone too hard, too fast. Just take it easy, start within your limits and gradually build your way up

It's not a myth if you're fat.

You can't get fit if you can't get active. Build up to it appropriately.

see my post above....was over 19 stone when i started....still fat at over 16 stone, knees a-ok and injury free to date.

You're not the one saying you couldn't move for a week after jogging

It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing.

Although it sounds as though you'd benefit from a change in programme.

also....you made it one size fits all by insinuating that if you are fat you shouldn't run....i was proving that it is absolutely possible to run and run injury free even if you are a heffer like me."

No I was insinuating that you'd benefit by doing something to get you to a healthy weight sooner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40"

Best advice I could give you is listen to your body, if you feel you need to rest then do so. You don't want to over do it, or cause a injury.

I have been running in marathons for past year now after losing 9 St, did my hamstring in when I ran my first full marathon but kept going. After that had to take a few good weeks off, because over doing it.

All the best for trying to lose the weight ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who was once 7 stone heavier so super big, I ran for a bit. I had to stop due to the unnecessary pressure it was putting on my ankles and knees. However, much of the time this isn't because of weight but because you're not running properly. I don't think it's one size fits all. Personally, I recommend not running. There are plenty of much better exercises you can do.

I recommend starting slowly, and do interval training. Join classes too, as you'll get motivation.

Good luck on your journey, OP!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great thread op. And interesting replies.

I've just gone back to gym after having acl reconstruction in Feb last year.

My knee is totally great after 6 months physio and walking, swimming and I can happily say I can now kneel on it;-)

Which is a bonus !!!!!

In the gym I've found the x trainer and bike helps. Still got couple of stone to shift but have lost 3 stone to date

Good luck and listen to the advice

Don't go too hard too quick xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and to be clear I wasn't saying you shouldn't run if you're fat - I was suggesting that if you're in pain there are other activities that can help you shed weight to build up to doing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The couch to 5k plans are great followed one years ago and it definitely worked, mix in some weights and you be flying, well done on getting started that's the hardest part ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and to be clear I wasn't saying you shouldn't run if you're fat - I was suggesting that if you're in pain there are other activities that can help you shed weight to build up to doing it."

Totally agree with this, and most of the activities are probably more beneficial.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Running, especially long distance is just never a good idea in my opinion. There's easier and more enjoyable ways to get or be 'fit'.

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By *D40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"Swimming and/or cycling until you're fit enough to jog.

Utter rubbish. So how fit do you have to be to start?

OP you have done too much too soon. Look up couch to 5km beginner plans and follow that. Trust me far bigger and less fit than you have done well off it

I'm interested in which bit is 'utter rubbish'...

The suggestion that you should do other sports to get fit enough to jog

The suggestion was to do something to lose weight, gain strength (and confidence) before progressing to more strenuous activities.

And it was a good suggestion.

I didnt want to cause controversy or arguments. My plan for the next few weeks is to aim for zumba class once a week and do some cardio & some weights 2-3 times remembering to stretch & warm up properly

Mrs _d40

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am hoping some of you "fit" people could offer advice.

Have started the gym last week. 4 stone to lose but more importantly knowing i hit 50 this year & i want to be fitter for my older years.

So last week i may have overdone it trying running on the treadmill. It knackered my legs up for the week & put me off going for the rest of the week.

So my question is should i leave running until i actually get some kind of fitness....? I want to feel fit enough to get to the gym 3 times a week..

Advice greatly appreciated..

Mrs _d40"

As someone who has lost 3 1/2 stone in 4 months and couldn't see the point of running unless it was on a football pitch but is now converted I can offer some advice.

Download the couch to 5k app, it's nhs approved. It builds you up over a 9 week period to be able to comfortably run 30 minutes straight.

I hated running before starting in September and now do a 5k, 8k and 10k each week and love the feeling at the end of, and during, a good run. I have to stop myself going out some nights so I don't over do it. Plus I still play football every week and want something left in the tank for it.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Running, especially long distance is just never a good idea in my opinion. There's easier and more enjoyable ways to get or be 'fit'. "

But what if you enjoy the running? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think you have to wait until you've lost weight to start. But you do have to build up gradually and start slow - tbh my jogging pace isn't much faster than my walking pace. I'm a big fan of swimming so do that if you want to, but if you *want* to run then I don't think you should be put off. Just give yourself a break until your muscles are no longer so sore then try again but a bit gentler to start.

I went to a beginners' running group last year with a group of ladies of all sizes, some heavier than me - and I'm the thick end of 17 stone - at the beginning most of us couldn't jog for more than 5 mins but after 8 weeks we all did a 5k together.

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