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"what's the fascination with straight guys liking TV's and CD's seems to be loads of guys seeing them being fucked by them and enjoying it??" miffed by it the thought is there but I don't know if I would do it | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes " surely it can't be that simple I heard it was note complex than Chinese algebra | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes surely it can't be that simple I heard it was note complex than Chinese algebra" No its pretty basic stuff .... hey just ask your granny or your mates down the pub if you don't believe me....  | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes " Not their sexuality  I've heard the term 'cock in a frock' | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes surely it can't be that simple I heard it was note complex than Chinese algebra No its pretty basic stuff .... hey just ask your granny or your mates down the pub if you don't believe me.... "Interesting perspective from a TV. How do TV's feel if a man considers himself straight and wants to meet them? Do they feel good as in they are achieving an illusion or do they think the guy is confused? | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock' "Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......  | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes surely it can't be that simple I heard it was note complex than Chinese algebra No its pretty basic stuff .... hey just ask your granny or your mates down the pub if you don't believe me.... Interesting perspective from a TV. How do TV's feel if a man considers himself straight and wants to meet them? Do they feel good as in they are achieving an illusion or do they think the guy is confused?"The straight bloke asking gets a polite but firm no thanks from this frock wearer geezer TV's and CD's as not the same a TS/TG who deserve the respect of having a gender identity which befits' who they truly are as a human being | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ...... "I don't wear frocks!  mostly just jeans. | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans. "Boot-cut jeans..? | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans.
Boot-cut jeans..? "That's for me to know and for you to never find out
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"Interesting perspective from a TV. How do TV's feel if a man considers himself straight and wants to meet them? Do they feel good as in they are achieving an illusion or do they think the guy is confused?" I think everyone knows what's going on really, don't you. The confused thing just makes me think of some kind of legal defence (or to justify it to yourself), and Al Murray's 'Pub Landlord' character shouting onstage about how he was 'never confused'. | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans.
Boot-cut jeans..?
That's for me to know and for you to never find out
#hardtoget "Come off it Steve...... we both know working it in a pair of low rise skinny-fit with just a hint of embroidery on the arse pocket draws the eye of the most inflexible straight guys cruising Brighton pier  | |||
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"l din't fancy men or even the majority of TGs but l recently seen a Tgirl who looked better than most women l see. She was hot and there was mutual interest." Easy tiger,,,,, Before you know it you be surfing the net for femboy/trap porn | |||
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"what's the fascination with straight guys liking TV's and CD's seems to be loads of guys seeing them being fucked by them and enjoying it??" Same sex ,sex means your bi or gay fact ,whether they like to admit it or not lol  | |||
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"l din't fancy men or even the majority of TGs but l recently seen a Tgirl who looked better than most women l see. She was hot and there was mutual interest."  | |||
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If horny 'straight' blokes need assistance and are hot it would be rude not too lol. | |||
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that" here here | |||
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that" There are a few on here n they must be extremely convincing to make any guy think he's having a heterosexual experience when it's not a pair of thighs his balls are slapping against.....but another pair of balls!
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that There are a few on here n they must be extremely convincing to make any guy think he's having a heterosexual experience when it's not a pair of thighs his balls are slapping against.....but another pair of balls!
Whatever floats their boats eh "How big are your balls? In fact how big are the tvs/ts's balls that you hit them before you hit there thighs? Most convincing TV/TS's tuck so tight you won't be hitting anything unless you go looking for it  | |||
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that There are a few on here n they must be extremely convincing to make any guy think he's having a heterosexual experience when it's not a pair of thighs his balls are slapping against.....but another pair of balls!
Whatever floats their boats eh
How big are your balls? In fact how big are the tvs/ts's balls that you hit them before you hit there thighs?
Most convincing TV/TS's tuck so tight you won't be hitting anything unless you go looking for it "Didn't take that into account when I thought of my flippant remark! That's me told eh  | |||
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"what's the fascination with straight guys liking TV's and CD's seems to be loads of guys seeing them being fucked by them and enjoying it??" Easier to meet than women? | |||
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that There are a few on here n they must be extremely convincing to make any guy think he's having a heterosexual experience when it's not a pair of thighs his balls are slapping against.....but another pair of balls!
Whatever floats their boats eh
How big are your balls? In fact how big are the tvs/ts's balls that you hit them before you hit there thighs?
Most convincing TV/TS's tuck so tight you won't be hitting anything unless you go looking for it
Didn't take that into account when I thought of my flippant remark!
That's me told eh "Licks finger, places it in the air and marks herself one up | |||
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"Quite simply there aren't enough women on here to go around so game on I say lol
If horny 'straight' blokes need assistance and are hot it would be rude not too lol."Well said Chrissy u sexy girl. Xx. | |||
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that There are a few on here n they must be extremely convincing to make any guy think he's having a heterosexual experience when it's not a pair of thighs his balls are slapping against.....but another pair of balls!
Whatever floats their boats eh
How big are your balls? In fact how big are the tvs/ts's balls that you hit them before you hit there thighs?
Most convincing TV/TS's tuck so tight you won't be hitting anything unless you go looking for it
Didn't take that into account when I thought of my flippant remark!
That's me told eh
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"what's the fascination with straight guys liking TV's and CD's seems to be loads of guys seeing them being fucked by them and enjoying it?? Easier to meet than women? " Where is our stat guy when we need him | |||
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Ermm, We have a very nice TV as our sub.
As on the other post, its complicated and we'll talk, deal with things as we go, as yet I won't be changing my status from straight though as I align more to that than bi.
I could never see myself doing things with them as a guy nor any other so I don't want to put it on our profile until I change the whole thing anyway.
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"You've really-really gotta love this place.... "So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them. So at this moment in time what am I? Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that" Not sure the point is how convincing or not. The OP asked about getting fucked by a TV/CD....as in by a "penis". The point most are making is yes...that is same sex and therefore not straight. It doesn't seem to be complicated. For a TS who identifies as female it may be more complex.....but they surely wouldn't want to fuck a guy.....as they wouldn't acknowledge their penis if they identify as female. | |||
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"You've really-really gotta love this place....
So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them.
So at this moment in time what am I?
Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
S"The definition of sexuality is pretty basic stuff .......it's taught in schools and recognised by the medical profusion Straight people don't willingly engage in repeated same sex activity regardless of the limitation of their involvement ..... | |||
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"You've really-really gotta love this place....
So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them.
So at this moment in time what am I?
Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
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The definition of sexuality is pretty basic stuff .......it's taught in schools and recognised by the medical profusion
Straight people don't willingly engage in repeated same sex activity regardless of the limitation of their involvement .....
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"You've really-really gotta love this place....
So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them.
So at this moment in time what am I?
Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
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The definition of sexuality is pretty basic stuff .......it's taught in schools and recognised by the medical profusion
Straight people don't willingly engage in repeated same sex activity regardless of the limitation of their involvement .....
"All they teach in schools is birds & bees, boy/girl basics. But I agree i'm no longer straight but you could have all the features of a Greek statue standing before me all oiled up & I still wouldn't fancy you, so not really bi either. It's interesting is what it is to be sure, & fun of course
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" For a TS who identifies as female it may be more complex.....but they surely wouldn't want to fuck a guy.....as they wouldn't acknowledge their penis if they identify as female." Interesting Point .
- as that is exactly how I feel when I crossdress ~ that organ just cease to exist. Yet, I'm not a TS but just a guy-in-a-dress.
I'm attracted to masculinity and manliness and therefore I don't bother to label the guys whom I've met.
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"l din't fancy men or even the majority of TGs but l recently seen a Tgirl who looked better than most women l see. She was hot and there was mutual interest." I completely understand this I have seen some profiles that are stunningly gorgeous. But I think a truly straight guy when the dress is off will still see a man. Each to their own sexual preference, although I personally don't see them as straight when they've had sexual veris from tv's | |||
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"You've really-really gotta love this place....
So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them.
So at this moment in time what am I?
Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
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The definition of sexuality is pretty basic stuff .......it's taught in schools and recognised by the medical profusion
Straight people don't willingly engage in repeated same sex activity regardless of the limitation of their involvement .....
All they teach in schools is birds & bees, boy/girl basics. But I agree i'm no longer straight but you could have all the features of a Greek statue standing before me all oiled up & I still wouldn't fancy you, so not really bi either.
It's interesting is what it is to be sure, & fun of course
S"Don't worry about not fancying me it was never going to be an issues.... But in reference to the fun,,,,,,it ceases to be fun when intentionally dishonest or misleading profile information help perpetuate the stigma against bisexuality on a site intended for sexually enlightened individuals Which in turn negatively effects the ability of all site members to use the site search facility with equal effectiveness .... Basically I don't have time for people who introduce themselves with lies ..... I'm a successful 50 odd year old adult who really cant be bothered with people who think they are either clever enough to fool me with their lies or that I should tolerate their excuse for using intentional deception Yep its all fun.... | |||
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"There's some very convincing CDs TV's ts's on here and that's that Not sure the point is how convincing or not. The OP asked about getting fucked by a TV/CD....as in by a "penis". The point most are making is yes...that is same sex and therefore not straight. It doesn't seem to be complicated. For a TS who identifies as female it may be more complex.....but they surely wouldn't want to fuck a guy.....as they wouldn't acknowledge their penis if they identify as female." No, ours identifies as a fem, so it is not discussed. On the subject of convincing though how's this..We walked to the bar & both thought "Holy fucking shit!" looking at a strikingly tall slim female at the bar then we realised she was the TV that had asked if we'd chat at the club. We later spoke to a fem friend of ours who had met her previously, her comment was "She's gorgeous & I kept having to remind myself that I was talking to a TV all the time we were chatting". The girls are already planning a shopping trip for new clothes, i'm dreading it! Why? because we will be looked at with a 6'2" in heals TV with us? No, because I fucking hate clothes shopping with H she's a nightmare!
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"You've really-really gotta love this place....
So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them.
So at this moment in time what am I?
Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
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The definition of sexuality is pretty basic stuff .......it's taught in schools and recognised by the medical profusion
Straight people don't willingly engage in repeated same sex activity regardless of the limitation of their involvement .....
All they teach in schools is birds & bees, boy/girl basics. But I agree i'm no longer straight but you could have all the features of a Greek statue standing before me all oiled up & I still wouldn't fancy you, so not really bi either.
It's interesting is what it is to be sure, & fun of course
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Don't worry about not fancying me it was never going to be an issues....
But in reference to the fun,,,,,,it ceases to be fun when intentionally dishonest or misleading profile information help perpetuate the stigma against bisexuality on a site intended for sexually enlightened individuals
Which in turn negatively effects the ability of all site members to use the site search facility with equal effectiveness ....
Basically I don't have time for people who introduce themselves with lies .....
I'm a successful 50 odd year old adult who really cant be bothered with people who think they are either clever enough to fool me with their lies or that I should tolerate their excuse for using intentional deception
Yep its all fun.... "Agreed, And our profile will have to change, we have only ever blocked guys, Some TV's etc. Have messaged on the past bit as with most on here attraction/distance are an issue. Our friend messaged us as we were due to attend a club at the same time, she politely asked if we were open to a chat or whether like many on here we were "closed off". We met, chatted..and there you go, it only happened Saturday so very new and we are still pondering how to change our profile to suit..I want to change the whole thing, new pics & all, but takes time..
That was a general "You" in my comment by the way, not a specific 'You" i'm not that rude or insensitive
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"You've really-really gotta love this place....
So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them.
So at this moment in time what am I?
Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
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The definition of sexuality is pretty basic stuff .......it's taught in schools and recognised by the medical profusion
Straight people don't willingly engage in repeated same sex activity regardless of the limitation of their involvement .....
All they teach in schools is birds & bees, boy/girl basics. But I agree i'm no longer straight but you could have all the features of a Greek statue standing before me all oiled up & I still wouldn't fancy you, so not really bi either.
It's interesting is what it is to be sure, & fun of course
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Don't worry about not fancying me it was never going to be an issues....
But in reference to the fun,,,,,,it ceases to be fun when intentionally dishonest or misleading profile information help perpetuate the stigma against bisexuality on a site intended for sexually enlightened individuals
Which in turn negatively effects the ability of all site members to use the site search facility with equal effectiveness ....
Basically I don't have time for people who introduce themselves with lies .....
I'm a successful 50 odd year old adult who really cant be bothered with people who think they are either clever enough to fool me with their lies or that I should tolerate their excuse for using intentional deception
Yep its all fun....
Agreed, And our profile will have to change, we have only ever blocked guys, Some TV's etc. Have messaged on the past bit as with most on here attraction/distance are an issue. Our friend messaged us as we were due to attend a club at the same time, she politely asked if we were open to a chat or whether like many on here we were "closed off". We met, chatted..and there you go, it only happened Saturday so very new and we are still pondering how to change our profile to suit..I want to change the whole thing, new pics & all, but takes time..
That was a general "You" in my comment by the way, not a specific 'You" i'm not that rude or insensitive
S"You should only do whatever you feel comfortable with.... My situation is something I've come too terms with ...... For reasons I wont go into publically I found myself in a position where to maintain a sex life without emotional commitment or entering a relationship swinging fitted the bill,,,,, For me that it's a situation which simply requires no complication or concession to the demands or constraints which motivate other peoples approach to swinging or indeed how they perceive what I offer and expect as a potential meet..... I'm genuinely not attracted to men in the slightest,,, I simply enjoy the intensity of same sex activity which means I am bisexual and it allows me a freedom from my emotional reservations .....my crossdressing is simply an added layer of fun I enjoy and means nothing more than that too me..... I'm on this site to meet sexually compatible individuals ...... which means I have no reason to approach any male whose profile claims they are straight and I respect that boundary , so it is not unreasonable to expect the same concession.... Guys who introduce themselves as straight on their profile and contradict that claim in private messages are wasting their time not mine....
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"You've really-really gotta love this place....
So come on, what am I? Not touched their dangly bits & won't, H might have done but that's not the arena of discussion, also I've not had sex with them.
So at this moment in time what am I?
Because atm i'm calling myself a hedonist and leaving it at that
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The definition of sexuality is pretty basic stuff .......it's taught in schools and recognised by the medical profusion
Straight people don't willingly engage in repeated same sex activity regardless of the limitation of their involvement .....
All they teach in schools is birds & bees, boy/girl basics. But I agree i'm no longer straight but you could have all the features of a Greek statue standing before me all oiled up & I still wouldn't fancy you, so not really bi either.
It's interesting is what it is to be sure, & fun of course
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Don't worry about not fancying me it was never going to be an issues....
But in reference to the fun,,,,,,it ceases to be fun when intentionally dishonest or misleading profile information help perpetuate the stigma against bisexuality on a site intended for sexually enlightened individuals
Which in turn negatively effects the ability of all site members to use the site search facility with equal effectiveness ....
Basically I don't have time for people who introduce themselves with lies .....
I'm a successful 50 odd year old adult who really cant be bothered with people who think they are either clever enough to fool me with their lies or that I should tolerate their excuse for using intentional deception
Yep its all fun....
Agreed, And our profile will have to change, we have only ever blocked guys, Some TV's etc. Have messaged on the past bit as with most on here attraction/distance are an issue. Our friend messaged us as we were due to attend a club at the same time, she politely asked if we were open to a chat or whether like many on here we were "closed off". We met, chatted..and there you go, it only happened Saturday so very new and we are still pondering how to change our profile to suit..I want to change the whole thing, new pics & all, but takes time..
That was a general "You" in my comment by the way, not a specific 'You" i'm not that rude or insensitive
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You should only do whatever you feel comfortable with....
My situation is something I've come too terms with ......
For reasons I wont go into publically I found myself in a position where to maintain a sex life without emotional commitment or entering a relationship swinging fitted the bill,,,,,
For me that it's a situation which simply requires no complication or concession to the demands or constraints which motivate other peoples approach to swinging or indeed how they perceive what I offer and expect as a potential meet.....
I'm genuinely not attracted to men in the slightest,,,
I simply enjoy the intensity of same sex activity which means I am bisexual and it allows me a freedom from my emotional reservations .....my crossdressing is simply an added layer of fun I enjoy and means nothing more than that too me.....
I'm on this site to meet sexually compatible individuals ...... which means I have no reason to approach any male whose profile claims they are straight and I respect that boundary , so it is not unreasonable to expect the same concession....
Guys who introduce themselves as straight on their profile and contradict that claim in private messages are wasting their time not mine....
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"Perhaps they are attracted to femininity? "Well that's my chances well and truly kyboshed ... | |||
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"Perhaps they are attracted to femininity? "Covers me anyway
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"Just a thought. What if a heterosexual guy shagged a woman, and then discovered she's a (post-op) TS? ." Surely that is a women.... | |||
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"Sexual orientation and gender don't just exist in a very distinct black or white kind of way - as much as we'd like life and people to be simple. If you're not prepared to handle complexity in your mind, then you'll struggle to understand the complex world, as well as the complexities of the human species. Is it the others who are unable to fit your oversimplistic thinking style or does it just start and end with you? Maybe the latter is the simple way to view such things. I've given up trying to squash organic complexity into something like a binary model." so it is as complex as Chinese algebra | |||
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"As a straight guy I'd argue the top-level TV's are more appealing than most averagely attractive women." However, these type of threads Often prove that beauty is only skin deep. | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans.
Boot-cut jeans..?
That's for me to know and for you to never find out
#hardtoget
Come off it Steve...... we both know working it in a pair of low rise skinny-fit with just a hint of embroidery on the arse pocket draws the eye of the most inflexible straight guys cruising Brighton pier "HOW DARE YOU!!!  | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans.
Boot-cut jeans..?
That's for me to know and for you to never find out
#hardtoget
Come off it Steve...... we both know working it in a pair of low rise skinny-fit with just a hint of embroidery on the arse pocket draws the eye of the most inflexible straight guys cruising Brighton pier
HOW DARE YOU!!! "Steve embrace your inner teapot.. | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans.
Boot-cut jeans..?
That's for me to know and for you to never find out
#hardtoget
Come off it Steve...... we both know working it in a pair of low rise skinny-fit with just a hint of embroidery on the arse pocket draws the eye of the most inflexible straight guys cruising Brighton pier
HOW DARE YOU!!!
Steve embrace your inner teapot.. "Are you talking about my love kissile pocket python spear thriller? | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans.
Boot-cut jeans..?
That's for me to know and for you to never find out
#hardtoget
Come off it Steve...... we both know working it in a pair of low rise skinny-fit with just a hint of embroidery on the arse pocket draws the eye of the most inflexible straight guys cruising Brighton pier
HOW DARE YOU!!!
Steve embrace your inner teapot..
Are you talking about my love kissile pocket python spear thriller? "Steve who needs labels when you've got what you've got | |||
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"Straight men don't engage in same sex activity.... A person does not change gender simply by changing their clothes Not their sexuality I've heard the term 'cock in a frock'
Steve you probably misheard someone saying "that fook'in bloke in a frock" thinks he knows the answer too everything ......
I don't wear frocks! mostly just jeans.
Boot-cut jeans..?
That's for me to know and for you to never find out
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Come off it Steve...... we both know working it in a pair of low rise skinny-fit with just a hint of embroidery on the arse pocket draws the eye of the most inflexible straight guys cruising Brighton pier
HOW DARE YOU!!!
Steve embrace your inner teapot..
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Steve who needs labels when you've got what you've got "I've tried so 'hard' to get into BBC sessions and meets to no avail.  | |||
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"Who cares what anyone identifies as or what they are into. Just let people be the person that they want to be. " Well said babe, I agree. Xx. | |||
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"what's the fascination with straight guys liking TV's and CD's seems to be loads of guys seeing them being fucked by them and enjoying it??" It's called denial | |||
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